From ma3bird at aol.com  Sat May  1 07:31:23 2010
From: ma3bird at aol.com (ma3bird at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 07:31:23 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order to
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 Try Jackie Lange, at Cash Flow Depot.  She lives in Dallas and may be able to steer you to somebody in that area or even help you herself.  She has conducted many successful highest bidder sales.

Mavis.

 


 

 

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Hopefully, there will be someone who can help.  We have Texas members, but Texas is one BIG state.
 
Greatest of luck to you,
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 4/30/2010 3:17:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pratoc1105 at yahoo.com writes:
  
    
    
      
Sorry, I live in Portland Oregon but the property is in         Queen City, Texas just 13 miles south of Texarkana Texas.  

        
        
Cendy         Prator
        
503-568-3644(cell)
        
website:  www.marketamerica.com/cprnet
        
 
        
Shop through my web portal and get         2% cash back just for shopping!! also an additional .5% for each         customer referral
        
        
 


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From:           Janetislight at aol.com <Janetislight at aol.com>
Subject: Re:           [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order to go on           and ...
To:           5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Friday, April           30, 2010, 11:31 AM

          
          
It might help if you tell us where you are from.  Then we           can see if there is a member close by.  :)
          
 
          
Janet
          
 
          
          
In a message dated 4/30/2010 9:52:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,           pratoc1105 at yahoo.com writes:
          
            
              
              
                
How do you do a sale if your property is 2,000                   miles from where you live?  Is there anyone else that                   would help with a 5 day sale in this group?

                  
                  
Cendy                   Prator
                  
503-568-3644(cell)
                  
website:  www.marketamerica.com/cprnet
                  
 
                  
Shop through my web                   portal and get 2% cash back just for shopping!! also an                   additional .5% for each customer                   referral
                  
                  
 


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From:                     Janetislight at aol.com                     <Janetislight at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]                     Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order to go on and                     ...
To:                     5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date:                     Friday, April 30, 2010, 7:44 AM

                    
                    
Paul,
                    
 
                    
In my area, both for me and two other 5 day sellers                     here, signs give us over 90% of our responses, and yours                     aren't even going up until the deadline is in sight.                      Get your signs up ASAP and see what happens.  Wait                     until around 9:00 before making your decision.  It will                     be interesting to see your response today, as this is when                     your most favorable advertising is going into effect.                      Even your flyers are coming out late.  I hope your                     phone rings off the hook tonight.
                    
 
                    
Keep us posted.
                    
 
                    
Janet
                    
 
                    
                    
In a message dated 4/29/2010 10:46:47 P.M. Central                     Daylight Time, pkreader at earthlink.net writes:
                    
                      
                      
Have my first 5 day Sale scheduled this                       weekend for a higher-end lakefront home I own in a golfing                       community nearest Pinehurst, NC. 

As of now--                       Thursday 11pm-- I?ve received 1 call, 1 email and some #                       of people have taken flyers from my flyer box in the front                       yard? a couple of folks have expressed interest. Not                       throwing in the towel yet?and won?t have latest flyer                       count until Friday evening, but the low response so far                       has me wonder if I would really be wise to hold the                       inspection & sale this weekend. 

? 25                       ?responses? else must postpone sale? Want to properly                       assess the risk. 

50 info signs are ready for                       placement in the area Friday late afternoon. Though I have                       a community sign permit it will be challenging to not                       violate their stringent rules. Have good professional sign                       in the front yard (and home grown one for 10 days prior).                       Also a few newspaper ads and various electronic media. Got                       stopped cold by the city when tacking flyers to mailboxes                       on Monday so I have resorted to mailing  a nice flyer                       to 150 residents who are to receive Thursday / Friday                       before sale weekend.

This sale is of personal                       importance so I appreciate your valuable feedback. Thanks                       in advance.                   

Paul


                  


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From eimpelli at comcast.net  Sat May  1 12:36:17 2010
From: eimpelli at comcast.net (Elizabeth Impellizzeri)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 12:36:17 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order
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Janet,

 

I posted a message about three days ago and received a message that it needs to be approved before posting.  How do I get it approved?  I wanted to have a 5-day auction near Atlanta, GA in ~2 weeks, but need to get feedback from the forum on where to advertise.  

 

Thank you.

Bunni
Elizabeth Impellizzeri, Member
EBI Investing LLC
Cell:  609-784-4137
Email:  eimpelli at comcast.net




 

 

 

From: Janetislight at aol.com [mailto:Janetislight at aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
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We have a member nearby.  I believe Rosemarie is in NC, but am not positive.  She is a regular contributor, so should see your message in time.  Nice area.  Cary is great.  Brother works at SAS, as most every one who lives in Cary does.  LOL

 

Greatest of luck, and hope you get responses.

 

Janet

 

In a message dated 4/30/2010 2:06:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pkreader at earthlink.net writes:

Janet

 

Thank you so much for asking.

 

Property is located in Whispering Pines, North Carolina (Pinehurst golf area) &  1 hour South from where I live in Cary. Driving down in about 90 minutes to put up signs which came in yesterday.

Putting a banner on a car during the inspection period.

 

Paul

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+pkreader=earthlink.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+pkreader=earthlink.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:32 PM
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It might help if you tell us where you are from.  Then we can see if there is a member close by.  :)

 

Janet

 

In a message dated 4/30/2010 9:52:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pratoc1105 at yahoo.com writes:


How do you do a sale if your property is 2,000 miles from where you live?  Is there anyone else that would help with a 5 day sale in this group?

Cendy Prator

503-568-3644(cell)

website:  www.marketamerica.com/cprnet

 

Shop through my web portal and get 2% cash back just for shopping!! also an additional .5% for each customer referral

 



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From: Janetislight at aol.com <Janetislight at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order to go on and ...
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 7:44 AM

Paul,

 

In my area, both for me and two other 5 day sellers here, signs give us over 90% of our responses, and yours aren't even going up until the deadline is in sight.  Get your signs up ASAP and see what happens.  Wait until around 9:00 before making your decision.  It will be interesting to see your response today, as this is when your most favorable advertising is going into effect.  Even your flyers are coming out late.  I hope your phone rings off the hook tonight.

 

Keep us posted.

 

Janet

 

In a message dated 4/29/2010 10:46:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pkreader at earthlink.net writes:

Have my first 5 day Sale scheduled this weekend for a higher-end lakefront home I own in a golfing community nearest Pinehurst, NC. 

As of now-- Thursday 11pm-- I?ve received 1 call, 1 email and some # of people have taken flyers from my flyer box in the front yard? a couple of folks have expressed interest. Not throwing in the towel yet?and won?t have latest flyer count until Friday evening, but the low response so far has me wonder if I would really be wise to hold the inspection & sale this weekend. 

? 25 ?responses? else must postpone sale? Want to properly assess the risk. 

50 info signs are ready for placement in the area Friday late afternoon. Though I have a community sign permit it will be challenging to not violate their stringent rules. Have good professional sign in the front yard (and home grown one for 10 days prior). Also a few newspaper ads and various electronic media. Got stopped cold by the city when tacking flyers to mailboxes on Monday so I have resorted to mailing  a nice flyer to 150 residents who are to receive Thursday / Friday before sale weekend.

This sale is of personal importance so I appreciate your valuable feedback. Thanks in advance. 

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sun May  2 11:40:38 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 11:40:38 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising in Georgia
Message-ID: <54ac0.30c3e8f.390ef6f6@aol.com>

My intuition is to nix the newspaper advertising.  It hasn't been  working. 
 List where you can on line, Craig's, etc. and put about 20 signs  around 
your area in the most commercial parts, at grocery stores and apartment  
buildings.  The signs are cheap.  Just get blank plastic with wire  posts.  Get 
a permanent black market and start writing.  The whole  thing will cost less 
than $200.  Oh, and the flyers, I wouldn't mail them,  I would stuff them 
in the front doors of houses, with the Choose You Neighbor  headline.  Now, 
with that said.  This is only my opinion.  Keep a  very open mind, and an 
extremely positive attitude.
 
Greatest of luck,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/2/2010 9:28:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
eimpelli at comcast.net writes:

 
I want to run a 5-day auction in Stone Mountain, GA (about  a ? hour from 
Atlanta) within the next three weeks, but I have been having  trouble finding 
a way to advertise.  I priced the ad in the AJC (the  Atlanta newspaper) 
and they wanted $900 for the five days.  That?s the  only daily newspaper I 
have been able to locate.  There?s a couple other  weekly papers that I 
thought I?d put my ad in, but it doesn?t get the 5-day  consecutive ad effect 
that the book talks about. 
I?ve also been unable to locate a billboard.  I?m  wondering if that?s out 
of my price range too.   
I?ve priced mailers and that seems extremely expensive  too. 
I know that advertising is key to the success of this  auction.   
I?ll be traveling down there for the two day inspection  (which will cost 
me ~$250), so I want to make sure we advertise  properly.  Unfortunately, I 
don?t have thousands to put into promoting  this sale.  Any guidance would be 
appreciated!  Thank  you. 
Elizabeth  
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sun May  2 11:42:58 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 11:42:58 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order to
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Bunni,
 
You are posting now.  Bill was gone for a few days, so you probably  got 
caught in his absence.  He does a great deal personally to keep this  forum 
going and deserves to be away from it for a few days.  Don't you  think?
 
Anyway,
 
Welcome to the forum!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/2/2010 9:28:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
eimpelli at comcast.net writes:

 
Janet, 
I  posted a message about three days ago and received a message that it 
needs to  be approved before posting.  How do I get it approved?  I wanted to  
have a 5-day auction near Atlanta, GA in ~2 weeks, but need to get feedback  
from the forum on where to advertise.   
Thank  you. 
Bunni
Elizabeth  Impellizzeri, Member
EBI Investing LLC
Cell:   609-784-4137
Email:   eimpelli at comcast.net



 
From:  Janetislight at aol.com [mailto:Janetislight at aol.com] 
Sent: Friday,  April 30, 2010 4:37 PM
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order 
to go on and  ...

 
We  have a member nearby.  I believe Rosemarie is in NC, but am not  
positive.  She is a regular contributor, so should see your message in  time.  
Nice area.  Cary is great.  Brother works at SAS, as  most every one who lives 
in Cary does.  LOL
 

 
Greatest  of luck, and hope you get responses.
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
In a  message dated 4/30/2010 2:06:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
pkreader at earthlink.net writes:

 
Janet 
Thank  you so much for asking. 
Property  is located in Whispering Pines, North Carolina (Pinehurst golf 
area)  &  1 hour South from where I live in Cary. Driving down in about 90  
minutes to put up signs which came in yesterday. 
Putting  a banner on a car during the inspection period. 
Paul 
 
 
From:  
5-dayforum-bounces+pkreader=earthlink.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com  
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+pkreader=earthlink.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com
Sent: Friday, April 30,  2010 2:32 PM
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order 
to go on and  ...

 
It  might help if you tell us where you are from.  Then we can see if there 
 is a member close by.  :)
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
In  a message dated 4/30/2010 9:52:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
pratoc1105 at yahoo.com writes:

How do you do a sale if your property is 2,000 miles  from where you live?  
Is there anyone else that would help with  a 5 day sale in this group? 
 
Cendy  Prator
 
503-568-3644(cell)
 
website:  _www.marketamerica.com/cprnet_ 
(http://www.marketamerica.com/cprnet) 
 

 
Shop  through my web portal and get 2% cash back just for shopping!! also  
an additional .5% for each customer  referral
 
 




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From: Janetislight at aol.com  <Janetislight at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Friday  Night "25 response" checkpoint in order 
to go on and ...
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Friday,  April 30, 2010, 7:44 AM 
 
 
Paul,
 

 
In  my area, both for me and two other 5 day sellers here, signs give us  
over 90% of our responses, and yours aren't even going up until the  deadline 
is in sight.  Get your signs up ASAP and see what  happens.  Wait until 
around 9:00 before making your  decision.  It will be interesting to see your 
response today,  as this is when your most favorable advertising is going 
into  effect.  Even your flyers are coming out late.  I hope  your phone rings 
off the hook tonight.
 

 
Keep  us posted.
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
In  a message dated 4/29/2010 10:46:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
pkreader at earthlink.net writes:

 
Have my first 5 day  Sale scheduled this weekend for a higher-end lakefront 
home I own  in a golfing community nearest Pinehurst, NC. 

As of now--  Thursday 11pm-- I?ve received 1 call, 1 email and some # of 
people  have taken flyers from my flyer box in the front yard? a couple of  
folks have expressed interest. Not throwing in the towel yet?and  won?t have 
latest flyer count until Friday evening, but the low  response so far has me 
wonder if I would really be wise to hold  the inspection & sale this 
weekend. 

? 25 ?responses?  else must postpone sale? Want to properly assess the 
risk.  

50 info signs are ready for placement in the area Friday  late afternoon. 
Though I have a community sign permit it will be  challenging to not violate 
their stringent rules. Have good  professional sign in the front yard (and 
home grown one for 10  days prior). Also a few newspaper ads and various 
electronic  media. Got stopped cold by the city when tacking flyers to  
mailboxes on Monday so I have resorted to mailing  a nice  flyer to 150 residents 
who are to receive Thursday / Friday before  sale weekend.

This sale is of personal importance so I  appreciate your valuable 
feedback. Thanks in advance.  

Paul




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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Sun May  2 12:21:53 2010
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (Rosemarie Belcher)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 12:21:53 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising in Georgia
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Some people have had good luck with Craig's List - you can post pictures which can work in your favor if you have a photogenic home or scenery.
Good luck!
Rosemarie 
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  I want to run a 5-day auction in Stone Mountain, GA (about a ? hour from Atlanta) within the next three weeks, but I have been having trouble finding a way to advertise.  I priced the ad in the AJC (the Atlanta newspaper) and they wanted $900 for the five days.  That's the only daily newspaper I have been able to locate.  There's a couple other weekly papers that I thought I'd put my ad in, but it doesn't get the 5-day consecutive ad effect that the book talks about.

   

  I've also been unable to locate a billboard.  I'm wondering if that's out of my price range too.  

   

  I've priced mailers and that seems extremely expensive too.

   

  I know that advertising is key to the success of this auction.  

   

  I'll be traveling down there for the two day inspection (which will cost me ~$250), so I want to make sure we advertise properly.  Unfortunately, I don't have thousands to put into promoting this sale.  Any guidance would be appreciated!  Thank you.

   

  Elizabeth 
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From lakishiabiggs at gmail.com  Sun May  2 13:24:16 2010
From: lakishiabiggs at gmail.com (Lakishia Biggs)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 13:24:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Help Many Calls but not many showing for open house
Message-ID: <r2rcc14e9d1005021024yae3b424asc0340e97cdc7a33a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I have my sale scheduled for tonight.  I had about 28 calls with people
showing interest, but not many people are showing up for the open house.
 Are there any suggestions on what I should do?  Has anyone else had this
problem?

Thanks,
Lakishia

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Elizabeth Impellizzeri <
eimpelli at comcast.net> wrote:

>  Janet,
>
>
>
> I posted a message about three days ago and received a message that it
> needs to be approved before posting.  How do I get it approved?  I wanted to
> have a 5-day auction near Atlanta, GA in ~2 weeks, but need to get feedback
> from the forum on where to advertise.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Bunni
> Elizabeth Impellizzeri, Member
> EBI Investing LLC
> Cell:  609-784-4137
> Email:  eimpelli at comcast.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Janetislight at aol.com [mailto:Janetislight at aol.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM
> *To:* 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order
> to go on and ...
>
>
>
> We have a member nearby.  I believe Rosemarie is in NC, but am not
> positive.  She is a regular contributor, so should see your message in
> time.  Nice area.  Cary is great.  Brother works at SAS, as most every one
> who lives in Cary does.  LOL
>
>
>
> Greatest of luck, and hope you get responses.
>
>
>
> Janet
>
>
>
> In a message dated 4/30/2010 2:06:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> pkreader at earthlink.net writes:
>
>  Janet
>
>
>
> Thank you so much for asking.
>
>
>
> Property is located in Whispering Pines, North Carolina (Pinehurst golf
> area) &  1 hour South from where I live in Cary. Driving down in about 90
> minutes to put up signs which came in yesterday.
>
> Putting a banner on a car during the inspection period.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* 5-dayforum-bounces+pkreader=earthlink.net@
> mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+pkreader<5-dayforum-bounces%2Bpkreader>
> =earthlink.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] *On Behalf Of *
> Janetislight at aol.com
> *Sent:* Friday, April 30, 2010 2:32 PM
> *To:* 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order
> to go on and ...
>
>
>
> It might help if you tell us where you are from.  Then we can see if there
> is a member close by.  :)
>
>
>
> Janet
>
>
>
> In a message dated 4/30/2010 9:52:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> pratoc1105 at yahoo.com writes:
>
>   How do you do a sale if your property is 2,000 miles from where you
> live?  Is there anyone else that would help with a 5 day sale in this group?
>
> *Cendy Prator*
>
> *503-568-3644(cell)*
>
> *website:  www.marketamerica.com/cprnet*
>
>
>
> *Shop through my web portal and get 2% cash back just for shopping!! also
> an additional .5% for each customer referral*
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/30/10, Janetislight at aol.com <Janetislight at aol.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Janetislight at aol.com <Janetislight at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order to
> go on and ...
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 7:44 AM
>
> Paul,
>
>
>
> In my area, both for me and two other 5 day sellers here, signs give us
> over 90% of our responses, and yours aren't even going up until the deadline
> is in sight.  Get your signs up ASAP and see what happens.  Wait until
> around 9:00 before making your decision.  It will be interesting to see your
> response today, as this is when your most favorable advertising is going
> into effect.  Even your flyers are coming out late.  I hope your phone rings
> off the hook tonight.
>
>
>
> Keep us posted.
>
>
>
> Janet
>
>
>
> In a message dated 4/29/2010 10:46:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> pkreader at earthlink.net writes:
>
>  Have my first 5 day Sale scheduled this weekend for a higher-end
> lakefront home I own in a golfing community nearest Pinehurst, NC.
>
> As of now-- Thursday 11pm-- I?ve received 1 call, 1 email and some # of
> people have taken flyers from my flyer box in the front yard? a couple of
> folks have expressed interest. Not throwing in the towel yet?and won?t have
> latest flyer count until Friday evening, but the low response so far has me
> wonder if I would really be wise to hold the inspection & sale this weekend.
>
>
> ? 25 ?responses? else must postpone sale? Want to properly assess the risk.
>
>
> 50 info signs are ready for placement in the area Friday late afternoon.
> Though I have a community sign permit it will be challenging to not violate
> their stringent rules. Have good professional sign in the front yard (and
> home grown one for 10 days prior). Also a few newspaper ads and various
> electronic media. Got stopped cold by the city when tacking flyers to
> mailboxes on Monday so I have resorted to mailing  a nice flyer to 150
> residents who are to receive Thursday / Friday before sale weekend.
>
> This sale is of personal importance so I appreciate your valuable feedback.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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From lakishiabiggs at gmail.com  Sun May  2 13:26:03 2010
From: lakishiabiggs at gmail.com (Lakishia Biggs)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 13:26:03 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Help: Sale tonight
Message-ID: <32A90075-395E-4C51-9CBE-63D1B363C9E1@gmail.com>

Hi All,

I have my sale scheduled for tonight.  I had about 28 calls with people showing interest, but not many people are showing up for the open house.  Are there any suggestions on what I should do?  Has anyone else had this problem?

Thanks,
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sun May  2 14:04:03 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 14:04:03 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Help Many Calls but not many showing for open house
Message-ID: <5b802.356427db.390f1893@aol.com>

Try calling those that haven't shown up.  Maybe you can entice them to  
come over for a look.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/2/2010 12:24:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
lakishiabiggs at gmail.com writes:

Hi All,  


I have my sale scheduled for tonight.  I had about 28 calls with  people 
showing interest, but not many people are showing up for the open  house.  Are 
there any suggestions on what I should do?  Has anyone  else had this 
problem?


Thanks,
Lakishia

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Elizabeth Impellizzeri  
<_eimpelli at comcast.net_ (mailto:eimpelli at comcast.net) >  wrote:


 
Janet, 
I posted a  message about three days ago and received a message that it 
needs to be  approved before posting.  How do I get it approved?  I wanted to  
have a 5-day auction near Atlanta, GA in ~2 weeks, but need to get feedback  
from the forum on where to advertise.   
Thank  you. 
Bunni
Elizabeth Impellizzeri, Member
EBI  Investing LLC
Cell:  609-784-4137
Email:  _eimpelli at comcast.net_ (mailto:eimpelli at comcast.net) 



 
From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)   
[mailto:_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) ]  
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:37 PM
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) 
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order 
to go on and  ...

 
We have a  member nearby.  I believe Rosemarie is in NC, but am not  
positive.  She is a regular contributor, so should see your message in  time.  
Nice area.  Cary is great.  Brother works at SAS, as  most every one who lives 
in Cary does.  LOL
 

 
Greatest of  luck, and hope you get responses.
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
In a message  dated 4/30/2010 2:06:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_pkreader at earthlink.net_ (mailto:pkreader at earthlink.net)  writes:

 
Janet 
Thank you  so much for asking. 
Property is  located in Whispering Pines, North Carolina (Pinehurst golf 
area)  &  1 hour South from where I live in Cary. Driving down in about  90 
minutes to put up signs which came in yesterday. 
Putting a  banner on a car during the inspection period. 
Paul 
 
 
From: 5-dayforum-bounces+pkreader=_earthlink.net_ (http://earthlink.net/) 
@_mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/)  [mailto:_5-dayforum-bounces+pkreader_ (mailto:
5-dayforum-bounces+pkreader) =_earthlink.net_ (http://earthlink.net/) 
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 _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) 
Sent: Friday, April 30,  2010 2:32 PM
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) 
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order 
to go on  and ...

 
It might  help if you tell us where you are from.  Then we can see if there 
is  a member close by.  :)
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
In a  message dated 4/30/2010 9:52:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_pratoc1105 at yahoo.com_ (mailto:pratoc1105 at yahoo.com)  writes:

How do you do a  sale if your property is 2,000 miles from where you live?  
Is  there anyone else that would help with a 5 day sale in this  group? 
 
Cendy  Prator
 
503-568-3644(cell)
 
website:  _www.marketamerica.com/cprnet_ 
(http://www.marketamerica.com/cprnet) 
 

 
Shop  through my web portal and get 2% cash back just for shopping!!  also 
an additional .5% for each customer  referral
 
 




--- On Fri, 4/30/10, _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)  
<_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) > wrote: 

From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)  
<_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) >
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order 
to go  on and ...
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) 
Date:  Friday, April 30, 2010, 7:44 AM 
 
 
Paul,
 

 
In  my area, both for me and two other 5 day sellers here, signs give  us 
over 90% of our responses, and yours aren't even going up until  the deadline 
is in sight.  Get your signs up ASAP and see  what happens.  Wait until 
around 9:00 before making your  decision.  It will be interesting to see your 
response today,  as this is when your most favorable advertising is going 
into  effect.  Even your flyers are coming out late.  I hope  your phone rings 
off the hook tonight.
 

 
Keep us  posted.
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
In  a message dated 4/29/2010 10:46:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_pkreader at earthlink.net_ (mailto:pkreader at earthlink.net)  writes:

 
Have my first 5  day Sale scheduled this weekend for a higher-end lakefront 
home  I own in a golfing community nearest Pinehurst, NC. 

As  of now-- Thursday 11pm-- I?ve received 1 call, 1 email and some  # of 
people have taken flyers from my flyer box in the front  yard? a couple of 
folks have expressed interest. Not throwing in  the towel yet?and won?t have 
latest flyer count until Friday  evening, but the low response so far has me 
wonder if I would  really be wise to hold the inspection & sale this 
weekend.  

? 25 ?responses? else must postpone sale? Want to  properly assess the 
risk. 

50 info signs are ready for  placement in the area Friday late afternoon. 
Though I have a  community sign permit it will be challenging to not violate  
their stringent rules. Have good professional sign in the front  yard (and 
home grown one for 10 days prior). Also a few  newspaper ads and various 
electronic media. Got stopped cold by  the city when tacking flyers to 
mailboxes on Monday so I have  resorted to mailing  a nice flyer to 150 residents 
who are  to receive Thursday / Friday before sale weekend.

This  sale is of personal importance so I appreciate your valuable  
feedback. Thanks in advance.  

Paul


 


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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Sun May  2 14:22:55 2010
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (Rosemarie Belcher)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 14:22:55 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Help: Sale tonight
References: <32A90075-395E-4C51-9CBE-63D1B363C9E1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F5F514DAA6E349C4AC761DC40197BF04@rosemarifv6onv>

I had a successful sale where Sunday was quite dead until about 4:30. The actual buyer didn't show up until about 5:45 - we were all done, but let them in. just in case. 
Your situation is a good illustration of why we need those 25 calls - not all of them will show. All you really need is one!
Good luck
Rosemarie 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lakishia Biggs 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:26 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Help: Sale tonight


  Hi All,


  I have my sale scheduled for tonight.  I had about 28 calls with people showing interest, but not many people are showing up for the open house.  Are there any suggestions on what I should do?  Has anyone else had this problem?


  Thanks,
  Lakishia


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From lakishiabiggs at gmail.com  Sun May  2 14:35:08 2010
From: lakishiabiggs at gmail.com (Lakishia)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 14:35:08 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Help: Sale tonight
In-Reply-To: <F5F514DAA6E349C4AC761DC40197BF04@rosemarifv6onv>
References: <32A90075-395E-4C51-9CBE-63D1B363C9E1@gmail.com>
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Thank you!

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2010, at 2:22 PM, "Rosemarie Belcher" <rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com 
 > wrote:

> I had a successful sale where Sunday was quite dead until about  
> 4:30. The actual buyer didn't show up until about 5:45 - we were all  
> done, but let them in. just in case.
> Your situation is a good illustration of  why we need those 25 calls  
> - not all of them will show. All you really need  is one!
> Good luck
> Rosemarie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lakishia Biggs
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:26 PM
> Subject: [5-DayForum] Help: Sale tonight
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have my sale scheduled for tonight.  I had about 28 calls with  
> people showing interest, but not many people are showing up for the  
> open house.  Are there any suggestions on what I should do?  Has  
> anyone else had this problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Lakishia
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From lakishiabiggs at gmail.com  Sun May  2 16:40:38 2010
From: lakishiabiggs at gmail.com (Lakishia Biggs)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 16:40:38 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Sale tonight
Message-ID: <4D3DA848-2C52-4DC4-B555-AA4C49C8ADF9@gmail.com>

Hi All,

I have the home being sold tonight. I wanted to find out how to move forward in the event that the home does not sell.  How long should I wait before trying again?  I had plenty of interest about 50 calls, but not a lot of people coming to see the house.  Any suggestions on how long I should wait to do it again if the house does not go tonight?

Thanks,
Lakishia

From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Sun May  2 19:29:48 2010
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (Rosemarie Belcher)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 19:29:48 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Sale tonight
References: <4D3DA848-2C52-4DC4-B555-AA4C49C8ADF9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2B726D7525B04854814FED11D7D61853@rosemarifv6onv>

Don't even think of it! Proceed with confidence! Let us know how it goes, 
and if you need further advice.
Rosemarie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lakishia Biggs" <lakishiabiggs at gmail.com>
To: <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:40 PM
Subject: [5-DayForum] Sale tonight


> Hi All,
>
> I have the home being sold tonight. I wanted to find out how to move 
> forward in the event that the home does not sell.  How long should I wait 
> before trying again?  I had plenty of interest about 50 calls, but not a 
> lot of people coming to see the house.  Any suggestions on how long I 
> should wait to do it again if the house does not go tonight?
>
> Thanks,
> Lakishia
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From puravidawellness at gmail.com  Sun May  2 17:56:49 2010
From: puravidawellness at gmail.com (Ileana Bourland)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 16:56:49 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] sale in Austin
Message-ID: <r2ka079563a1005021456te54f50baj5f32eaa63f286544@mail.gmail.com>

I'm planning the open house for my 5 Day Sale in south Austin for May 15-16,
2 weeks from now. From what I've read on this list, here's what's
recommended for advertising - mostly from Janetislight's recent post -
thanks Janetislight!!:

1. Craigslist
2. Signs - about 20 blank plastic with wire posts posted in the most
commercial parts, at grocery stores and apartment buildings

*Question*: Where do you find these? Home Depot/Walmart?

3. Flyers - put in front doors and mailboxes in the neighborhood w the
"Choose Your Neighbor" headline.
*
Question*: How many flyers?

4. Billboard

I have 2 ideas for advertising I haven't seen mentioned.

5. Create a blog on wordpress.com: http://en.wordpress.com/signup/ Here's
mine: http://soldtohighestbidder.wordpress.com/ It's brand new; I'll
continue updating it.

6. Neighborhood list serve. We have a yahoo group in my neighborhood to post
about lost cats, yard sales, neighborhood concerns, etc.
*
Is there anything else people have done for advertising?*
*
Has anyone on this list done a sale in central TX?*

Thanks!!

Ileana
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From gvaughn6 at comcast.net  Sun May  2 19:08:22 2010
From: gvaughn6 at comcast.net (gvaughn6 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 23:08:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [5-DayForum] land
Message-ID: <88590079.22998651272841702887.JavaMail.root@sz0075a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>




Does the five day sale work well with raw land?? 



Thank you, 

Monica 
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From gvaughn6 at comcast.net  Sun May  2 19:48:12 2010
From: gvaughn6 at comcast.net (gvaughn6 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 23:48:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Sale tonight
In-Reply-To: <2B726D7525B04854814FED11D7D61853@rosemarifv6onv>
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Hi, 



I am not the one who sent the message below. I was inquiring about trying to sell raw land with the 5 day sale approach. 



Monica 


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To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> 
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2010 6:29:48 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Sale tonight 

Don't even think of it! Proceed with confidence! Let us know how it goes, 
and if you need further advice. 
Rosemarie 
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From: "Lakishia Biggs" <lakishiabiggs at gmail.com> 
To: <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> 
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:40 PM 
Subject: [5-DayForum] Sale tonight 


> Hi All, 
> 
> I have the home being sold tonight. I wanted to find out how to move 
> forward in the event that the home does not sell. ?How long should I wait 
> before trying again? ?I had plenty of interest about 50 calls, but not a 
> lot of people coming to see the house. ?Any suggestions on how long I 
> should wait to do it again if the house does not go tonight? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Lakishia 
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Mon May  3 09:23:53 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:23:53 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] sale in Austin
Message-ID: <b7ae.24dba571.39102869@aol.com>

IIeana,
 
You can get the signs at a dollar store and cut them in half.  I got  mine 
from a local sign store that cost me next to nothing because I bought them  
blank.
 
As far as the flyers, as many as you have the energy to make and  deliver.  
LOL
 
Sounds like you are talking success!  So I know you will be  successful.  
Let us know how you are progressing.  We are ALL rooting  for you!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/2/2010 11:41:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
puravidawellness at gmail.com writes:

I'm  planning the open house for my 5 Day Sale in south Austin for May 
15-16, 2  weeks from now. From what I've read on this list, here's what's 
recommended  for advertising - mostly from Janetislight's recent post - thanks  
Janetislight!!:

1. Craigslist
2. Signs - about 20 blank plastic with wire posts  posted in  the most 
commercial parts, at grocery stores and apartment buildings  

Question: Where do you find these? Home  Depot/Walmart?

3. Flyers - put in front doors and mailboxes in the  neighborhood w the 
"Choose Your Neighbor" headline.

Question:  How many flyers? 

4. Billboard

I have 2 ideas for advertising I  haven't seen mentioned.

5. Create a blog on _wordpress.com_ (http://wordpress.com/) : 
_http://en.wordpress.com/signup/_ (http://en.wordpress.com/signup/)   Here's mine: 
_http://soldtohighestbidder.wordpress.com/_ 
(http://soldtohighestbidder.wordpress.com/)   It's brand new; I'll continue updating it.

6. Neighborhood list serve.  We have a yahoo group in my neighborhood to 
post about lost cats, yard sales,  neighborhood concerns, etc.

Is there anything else people have done  for advertising?

Has anyone on this list done a sale in central  TX?

Thanks!!

Ileana


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From bill at effros.com  Mon May  3 10:08:51 2010
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 10:08:51 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] land
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No.

Bill Effros
Author

gvaughn6 at comcast.net wrote:
>
>
> Does the five day sale work well with raw land??
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> Thank you,
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> Monica
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From pratoc1105 at yahoo.com  Mon May  3 11:17:22 2010
From: pratoc1105 at yahoo.com (Cendy)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 08:17:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order to
	go on and ...
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Mavis,
Do you have any contact information for Jackie Lange an email or phone number?



Cendy Prator
503-568-3644(cell)
website:??www.marketamerica.com/cprnet
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Shop through my web portal and get 2% cash back just for shopping!! also an additional .5% for each customer referral

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From: ma3bird at aol.com <ma3bird at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order to go on and ...
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 4:31 AM



Try Jackie Lange, at Cash Flow Depot.? She lives in Dallas and may be able to steer you to somebody in that area or even help you herself.? She has conducted many successful highest bidder sales.

Mavis.








-----Original Message-----
From: Janetislight at aol.com
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Fri, Apr 30, 2010 3:38 pm
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Hopefully, there will be someone who can help.? We have Texas members, but Texas is one BIG state.
?
Greatest of luck to you,
?
Janet
?

In a message dated 4/30/2010 3:17:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pratoc1105 at yahoo.com writes:




Sorry, I live in Portland Oregon but the property is in Queen City, Texas just 13 miles south of Texarkana Texas.? 



Cendy Prator
503-568-3644(cell)
website:??www.marketamerica.com/cprnet
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From: Janetislight at aol.com <Janetislight at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order to go on and ...
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 11:31 AM



It might help if you tell us where you are from.? Then we can see if there is a member close by.? :)
?
Janet
?

In a message dated 4/30/2010 9:52:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pratoc1105 at yahoo.com writes:




How do you do a sale if your property is 2,000 miles from where you live?? Is there anyone else that would help with a 5 day sale in this group?



Cendy Prator
503-568-3644(cell)
website:??www.marketamerica.com/cprnet
?
Shop through my web portal and get 2% cash back just for shopping!! also an additional .5% for each customer referral

?

--- On Fri, 4/30/10, Janetislight at aol.com <Janetislight at aol.com> wrote:


From: Janetislight at aol.com <Janetislight at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Friday Night "25 response" checkpoint in order to go on and ...
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 7:44 AM



Paul,
?
In my area, both for me and two other 5 day sellers here, signs give us over 90% of our responses, and yours aren't even going up until the deadline is in sight.? Get your signs up ASAP and see what happens.? Wait until around 9:00 before making your decision.? It will be interesting to see your response today, as this is when your most favorable advertising is going into effect.? Even your flyers are coming out late.? I hope your phone rings off the hook tonight.
?
Keep us posted.
?
Janet
?

In a message dated 4/29/2010 10:46:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pkreader at earthlink.net writes:


Have my first 5 day Sale scheduled this weekend for a higher-end lakefront home I own in a golfing community nearest Pinehurst, NC. 

As of now-- Thursday 11pm-- I?ve received 1 call, 1 email and some # of people have taken flyers from my flyer box in the front yard? a couple of folks have expressed interest. Not throwing in the towel yet?and won?t have latest flyer count until Friday evening, but the low response so far has me wonder if I would really be wise to hold the inspection & sale this weekend. 

? 25 ?responses? else must postpone sale? Want to properly assess the risk. 

50 info signs are ready for placement in the area Friday late afternoon. Though I have a community sign permit it will be challenging to not violate their stringent rules. Have good professional sign in the front yard (and home grown one for 10 days prior). Also a few newspaper ads and various electronic media. Got stopped cold by the city when tacking flyers to mailboxes on Monday so I have resorted to mailing ?a nice flyer to 150 residents who are to receive Thursday / Friday before sale weekend.

This sale is of personal importance so I appreciate your valuable feedback. Thanks in advance. 

Paul


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From rcutcher at austin.rr.com  Mon May  3 12:27:35 2010
From: rcutcher at austin.rr.com (RC Cutcher)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 11:27:35 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] sale in Austin
References: <r2ka079563a1005021456te54f50baj5f32eaa63f286544@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <754C9B14E65849458CA52A9BF11175BB@your55e5f9e3d2>

Hi Illeana,

I have been doing a Realtor version called the Express Sale in Central Texas since the time of Moses.  Let me know if I can be of any help!

RC Cutcher
Realtor, ABR
512-848-4449

Texas Landmark Properties
11109 Dodge Cattle Drive
Austin, Tx 78717

www.RCshortsale.com

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ileana Bourland 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:56 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] sale in Austin


  I'm planning the open house for my 5 Day Sale in south Austin for May 15-16, 2 weeks from now. From what I've read on this list, here's what's recommended for advertising - mostly from Janetislight's recent post - thanks Janetislight!!:

  1. Craigslist
  2. Signs - about 20 blank plastic with wire posts posted in the most commercial parts, at grocery stores and apartment buildings 

  Question: Where do you find these? Home Depot/Walmart?

  3. Flyers - put in front doors and mailboxes in the neighborhood w the "Choose Your Neighbor" headline.

  Question: How many flyers? 

  4. Billboard

  I have 2 ideas for advertising I haven't seen mentioned.

  5. Create a blog on wordpress.com: http://en.wordpress.com/signup/ Here's mine: http://soldtohighestbidder.wordpress.com/ It's brand new; I'll continue updating it.

  6. Neighborhood list serve. We have a yahoo group in my neighborhood to post about lost cats, yard sales, neighborhood concerns, etc.

  Is there anything else people have done for advertising?

  Has anyone on this list done a sale in central TX?

  Thanks!!

  Ileana
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From rbpriore at cox.net  Mon May  3 16:43:55 2010
From: rbpriore at cox.net (rbpriore)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 16:43:55 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5 day rental?
Message-ID: <BEF9C9A7-8A60-429D-9A06-1C256975B49E@cox.net>

Hi,
I was considering trying to rent one of our properties using the 5 day  
method.
  I would appreciate any input from anyone who has tried this before  
re: wording of ads, etc...  Anything you do differently from a 5 day  
sale.
Thanks
RP








From ronnie at romancustomhomes.com  Mon May  3 20:52:42 2010
From: ronnie at romancustomhomes.com (RONNIE ANDERSON)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 19:52:42 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] please remove me from this list
Message-ID: <809E78D6-08EC-4831-AE2F-B1BAC9FA1981@romancustomhomes.com>


From centralfloridaproperty at yahoo.com  Tue May  4 12:09:31 2010
From: centralfloridaproperty at yahoo.com (Marnetta Arnett)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:09:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Yard Signs - cheap
Message-ID: <597011.52124.qm@web45516.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I found?large, yellow plastic signs at my local sign shop.?? She sold me a handful, with the metal posts, for about $3 each.? I understand you can order them online for a bit less, but minimum quantity was 100.

Have had great success with these signs, mine are pre-printed because, as a Realtor,?I use them several times a month.? 

5-day sale is fantastic.? My?last sale had 15 bids.? High bidder had family emergency, and?was forced to cancel contract, but we have a handful of eager back-up buyers.?? My seller is so pleased with the results!?? Thanks so much for all the sharing!
?
?
"?
?
Marnetta Arnett
Certified Distressed Property Expert (CDPE)?
Certified Short Sale Professional (CSP)
407-928-8652
407-330-7690 (fax)
?www.ManyFloridaHomes.com 
Email:??CentralFloridaProperty at Yahoo.com ?


      
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Tue May  4 12:55:12 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 12:55:12 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Yard Signs - cheap
Message-ID: <53e5.3da731ef.3911ab70@aol.com>

Yes, this was the case with me.  I bought 20 for under $100.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/4/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
centralfloridaproperty at yahoo.com writes:

 

I found large, yellow plastic signs at my local sign  shop.   She sold me a 
handful, with the metal posts, for about $3  each.  I understand you can 
order them online for a bit less, but minimum  quantity was 100.
 
Have had great success with these signs, mine are pre-printed because, as  
a Realtor, I use them several times a month.  
 
5-day sale is fantastic.  My last sale had 15 bids.  High  bidder had 
family emergency, and was forced to cancel contract, but we  have a handful of 
eager back-up buyers.   My seller is so pleased  with the results!   Thanks so 
much for all the  sharing!



"  
Marnetta  Arnett 
Certified Distressed Property Expert  (CDPE)  
Certified Short  Sale Professional (CSP) 
407-928-8652 
407-330-7690 (fax) 
_www.ManyFloridaHomes.com_ (http://www.manyfloridahomes.com/)   
Email:  _CentralFloridaProperty at Yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:CentralFloridaProperty at Yahoo.com)    





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From PJ323JP at aol.com  Thu May  6 12:27:26 2010
From: PJ323JP at aol.com (PJ323JP at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 12:27:26 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Posting flyers in office buildings
Message-ID: <32943.27246b05.391447ee@aol.com>

Greetings All!
    The home I'm planning to sell is near a prominent  boulevard where 
there are a number of tall office buildings.  I believe  that the most likely 
potential buyers for my "starter" home are people who  work in those 
buildings.  My question is how to best target those  people?  My first thought is to 
post a flyer with tear-offs on each floor  of those buildings.  Of course it 
would be preferable to enter each office  and ask permission to post the 
flyer inside but that could take weeks.  
    Any experience with office building advertising  will be greatly 
appreciated.  
 
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From hsiclang at windstream.net  Tue May 11 18:46:14 2010
From: hsiclang at windstream.net (The Langs)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 18:46:14 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] [ Selling our home in Geauga County
Message-ID: <897FBEED8C274B6EA9F9FB94F9346796@MGI>

Dear Forum:

 

We sent this response to Elizabeth, but it appears that it did not go to the
Forum and others may want to know.

 

Rich and Barb

 

Hello, Elizabeth.

 

Long story short.no bids, no sale.

 

We had 52 phone calls, 18 email conversations, over 40 at the inspection and
9 bidders on the bidder registration list.  Many people said they loved our
home and that the property was beautiful.  3 realtors commented that we "did
a great job" in staging the home.  

 

We had one cash offer if we agreed to sell before April 30 (he was a first
time home buyer). We said no and told him that we looked forward to meeting
him at our inspection.  Of the 9 bidders, at least 3 said they would take a
number but that their own housing situation could make it that they would
not bid.  As it turned out, not one person bid on the house.  2 people asked
us to call them back and tell us the results. One person asked if they could
call back in a couple of months to see if we were willing to sell at a later
time.

 

All were very interested in this method.  Most everyone we talked to
throughout the process thought this was a great idea and wished us luck and
said we were really smart to sell our home this way - Thank you, Bill
Effros!  Many people said our advertising was great and that our full
disclosure was refreshing.  

 

Bill says in his book something like this "deviate from this method at your
own peril."   We did deviate from his method in 2 ways:  for religious
reasons, we held our auction Monday evening; for personal reasons, we chose
a higher price than the formula (half the value - $500.)  We purchased our
home in 1996 for $145,000. Over the past 14 years our major improvements
have included the following:  new roof, new septic system, new kitchen,
finished basement, 2 outbuildings and a 4/12 car garage and we cleared the
land (about 4 acres are landscaped)  Our starting number was $144,500.

   

We firmly believe that this method does work.  The market is very tough
right now.  

 

On Thursday evening we received a phone call from a person who said "the
process was just too fast" for him.  He asked if he could come and talk to
us Saturday (today).  We'll see what happens.

 

Lastly, one of the realtors called back on Wednesday to check on the sale.
Her opinion is that we failed to sell because we didn't use the MLS.  We
don't agree.  We had a free 14-day trial to ForSaleByOwner.com and had over
300 views and 7 serious email conversations from this website alone.  

 

That's all for now.  We'll let you know if we strike a deal today. 

 

Rich and Barb 

 

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From judyg2 at cox.net  Thu May  6 14:43:05 2010
From: judyg2 at cox.net (Judy Gardner)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 11:43:05 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] Unsubscibe. Me
Message-ID: <F03C82B7-0FAE-41F5-8D88-0932C8EA626C@cox.net>



Sent from my iPhone
Judy Gardner

From pgwilde at gmail.com  Wed May 12 08:09:50 2010
From: pgwilde at gmail.com (pgwilde)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 08:09:50 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] [ Selling our home in Geauga County
In-Reply-To: <897FBEED8C274B6EA9F9FB94F9346796@MGI>
References: <897FBEED8C274B6EA9F9FB94F9346796@MGI>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikhuIhe9Bvq5CfVR1UmBn4ZjjH9MC3QHtf4tb33@mail.gmail.com>

plz remove me from the mailing list.thank you.

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:46 PM, The Langs <hsiclang at windstream.net> wrote:

>  Dear Forum:
>
>
>
> We sent this response to Elizabeth, but it appears that it did not go to
> the Forum and others may want to know.
>
>
>
> Rich and Barb
>
>
>
> Hello, Elizabeth.
>
>
>
> Long story short?no bids, no sale.
>
>
>
> We had 52 phone calls, 18 email conversations, over 40 at the inspection
> and 9 bidders on the bidder registration list.  Many people said they loved
> our home and that the property was beautiful.  3 realtors commented that we
> ?did a great job? in staging the home.
>
>
>
> We had one cash offer if we agreed to sell before April 30 (he was a first
> time home buyer). We said no and told him that we looked forward to meeting
> him at our inspection.  Of the 9 bidders, at least 3 said they would take a
> number but that their own housing situation could make it that they would
> not bid.  As it turned out, *not one* person bid on the house.  2 people
> asked us to call them back and tell us the results. One person asked if they
> could call back in a couple of months to see if we were willing to sell at a
> later time.
>
>
>
> All were very interested in this method.  Most everyone we talked to
> throughout the process thought this was a great idea and wished us luck and
> said we were really smart to sell our home this way ? Thank you, Bill
> Effros!  Many people said our advertising was great and that our full
> disclosure was refreshing.
>
>
>
> Bill says in his book something like this ?deviate from this method at your
> own peril.?   We did deviate from his method in 2 ways:  for religious
> reasons, we held our auction Monday evening; for personal reasons, we chose
> a higher price than the formula (half the value - $500.)  We purchased our
> home in 1996 for $145,000. Over the past 14 years our major improvements
> have included the following:  new roof, new septic system, new kitchen,
> finished basement, 2 outbuildings and a 4/12 car garage and we cleared the
> land (about 4 acres are landscaped)  Our starting number was $144,500.
>
>
>
> We firmly believe that this method does work.  The market is very tough
> right now.
>
>
>
> On Thursday evening we received a phone call from a person who said ?the
> process was just too fast? for him.  He asked if he could come and talk to
> us Saturday (today).  We?ll see what happens.
>
>
>
> Lastly, one of the realtors called back on Wednesday to check on the sale.
> Her opinion is that we failed to sell because we didn?t use the MLS.  We
> don?t agree.  We had a free 14-day trial to ForSaleByOwner.com and had over
> 300 views and 7 serious email conversations from this website alone.
>
>
>
> That?s all for now.  We?ll let you know if we strike a deal today.
>
>
>
> Rich and Barb
>
>
>
>
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Wed May 12 11:55:01 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 11:55:01 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] [ Selling our home in Geauga County
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Best of luck today!!!!!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/11/2010 5:46:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
hsiclang at windstream.net writes:

 
Dear  Forum: 
We sent this response to  Elizabeth, but it appears that it did not go to 
the Forum and others may want  to know. 
Rich and  Barb 
Hello,  Elizabeth. 
Long story short?no  bids, no sale. 
We had 52 phone  calls, 18 email conversations, over 40 at the inspection 
and 9 bidders on the  bidder registration list.  Many people said they loved 
our home and that  the property was beautiful.  3 realtors commented that we 
?did a great  job? in staging the home.   
We had one cash offer  if we agreed to sell before April 30 (he was a first 
time home buyer). We said  no and told him that we looked forward to 
meeting him at our inspection.   Of the 9 bidders, at least 3 said they would take 
a number but that their own  housing situation could make it that they 
would not bid.  As it turned  out, not one person bid  on the house.  2 people 
asked us to call them back and tell us the  results. One person asked if they 
could call back in a couple of months to see  if we were willing to sell at 
a later time. 
All were very  interested in this method.  Most everyone we talked to 
throughout the  process thought this was a great idea and wished us luck and said 
we were  really smart to sell our home this way ? Thank you, Bill Effros!  
Many  people said our advertising was great and that our full disclosure was 
 refreshing.   
Bill says in his book  something like this ?deviate from this method at 
your own peril.?   We did deviate from his method in 2 ways:  for religious 
reasons,  we held our auction Monday evening; for personal reasons, we chose a 
higher  price than the formula (half the value - $500.)  We purchased our 
home in  1996 for $145,000. Over the past 14 years our major improvements have 
included  the following:  new roof, new septic system, new kitchen, 
finished  basement, 2 outbuildings and a 4/12 car garage and we cleared the land 
(about  4 acres are landscaped)  Our starting number was  $144,500. 
We firmly believe  that this method does work.  The market is very tough 
right now.    
On Thursday evening  we received a phone call from a person who said ?the 
process was just too  fast? for him.  He asked if he could come and talk to 
us Saturday  (today).  We?ll see what happens. 
Lastly, one of the  realtors called back on Wednesday to check on the sale. 
Her opinion is that we  failed to sell because we didn?t use the MLS.  We 
don?t agree.  We  had a free 14-day trial to ForSaleByOwner.com and had over 
300 views and 7  serious email conversations from this website alone.    
That?s all for  now.  We?ll let you know if we strike a deal today.   
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From bryan.blomker at yfci.org  Thu May 13 11:22:17 2010
From: bryan.blomker at yfci.org (Bryan Blomker)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:22:17 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Successful sales
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Okay, I'm new to this forum, but where do I find threads with successful
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From bryan.blomker at yfci.org  Thu May 13 13:00:44 2010
From: bryan.blomker at yfci.org (Bryan Blomker)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:00:44 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum]  Getting ready for a 5 Day Sale....
Message-ID: <4bec303d.c6c1f10a.296f.ffffab46@mx.google.com>

Perhaps it is legal, but is it ethical? The biggest problem I have with it
is that it seems deceptive if you really may not sell the house for whatever
you list or "best offer." Besides just ignoring the ethical question, how
have others handled this?

 

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From judymora at mpdnv.com  Thu May 13 23:24:46 2010
From: judymora at mpdnv.com (Judy Mora)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 20:24:46 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] Unsubscribe
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From rgramey at yahoo.com  Thu May 13 11:40:53 2010
From: rgramey at yahoo.com (R. GRANT RAMEY)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 08:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] 1-Day Sale
Message-ID: <666428.85614.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello,

I am open to suggestions and comments regarding the following.

I have made a one-page flyer to sell my condominium in 1 Day and it is attached here. I did this because I already have 3 potential buyers who asked me if I was going to sell, even though I did not say my place was for sale. Two potential buyers already live in the building but are renting from another owner. The third rented a room in my condo last summer. 

The 5-Day method is designed to reach the buyer pool and then get bidders down to the 2-4 people who are really interested. I believe I already have those people and thus I designed the 1-Day sale. Hence, I do not need to advertise and make so many flyers and phone calls. I did not put a price in the flyer because the half-price method is just to get responses from the buyer pool, and they can bid a penny if they want. I will let the potential buyers determine fair market value. 

I believe the information on the flyer is sufficient without needing a further detailed description at the
 showing. Of course, if I don't get the price I want I can do the 5-Day.

SIDE NOTE: It does not make sense to have one penny bids when minimum bids are $500. Also, I am thinking $1000 bid increments are better than $500. Any comments?

Tell me what you think,

Grant



      
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From jturtel at yahoo.com  Fri May 14 09:47:30 2010
From: jturtel at yahoo.com (Joel Turtel)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 06:47:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Bill or others on the list -- do you know any
	real-estate brokers who use the 5-day method
Message-ID: <284322.85836.qm@web39501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

To Bill Effros or others on the list,

    Do you know any real-estate brokers or agents who use the 5-day method? It doesn't matter what city they are located in.  Thanks.  Joel Turtel
 Joel Turtel 
Staten Island, NY 
718-447-7348
fax: 718-981-5091
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From jturtel at yahoo.com  Fri May 14 09:47:30 2010
From: jturtel at yahoo.com (Joel Turtel)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 06:47:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Bill or others on the list -- do you know any
	real-estate brokers who use the 5-day method
Message-ID: <284322.85836.qm@web39501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

To Bill Effros or others on the list,

    Do you know any real-estate brokers or agents who use the 5-day method? It doesn't matter what city they are located in.  Thanks.  Joel Turtel
 Joel Turtel 
Staten Island, NY 
718-447-7348
fax: 718-981-5091
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From hsiclang at windstream.net  Sat May 15 14:04:05 2010
From: hsiclang at windstream.net (The Langs)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:04:05 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Getting ready for a 5 Day Sale....
In-Reply-To: <4bec303d.c6c1f10a.296f.ffffab46@mx.google.com>
References: <4bec303d.c6c1f10a.296f.ffffab46@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <E5E2422C6BA84EF99BBC023400F6DC67@MGI>

Bryan,

 

We advertised the actual minimum that we would sell our home for.  While
this differs from the recommended "half the value of your home, adjusted to
the nearest magic number" method, it worked for us.  It will only work if
that absolute minimum you will sell for is well below the current market
value of your home.

 

Rich

 

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com
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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:01 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] Getting ready for a 5 Day Sale....

 

Perhaps it is legal, but is it ethical? The biggest problem I have with it
is that it seems deceptive if you really may not sell the house for whatever
you list or "best offer." Besides just ignoring the ethical question, how
have others handled this?

 



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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sat May 15 14:28:58 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:28:58 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Getting ready for a 5 Day Sale....
Message-ID: <19a86.13b5e47d.392041ea@aol.com>

By just telling everyone and putting on the bid sheet that no one is  
obligated to the sale until a contract is signed.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/15/2010 9:29:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bryan.blomker at yfci.org writes:

 
Perhaps it is legal, but is it ethical? The biggest problem  I have with it 
is that it seems deceptive if you really may not sell the house  for 
whatever you list or ?best offer.? Besides just ignoring the ethical  question, 
how have others handled this? 



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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sat May 15 14:30:23 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:30:23 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 1-Day Sale
Message-ID: <19b7f.834ce34.3920423f@aol.com>

I think that you are created a completely difference sales process than the 
 5 day sale.  Let us know how it goes!!!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/15/2010 9:29:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
rgramey at yahoo.com writes:

Hello,

I am open to suggestions and comments  regarding the following.

I have made a one-page flyer to sell my  condominium in 1 Day and it is 
attached here. I did this because I  already have 3 potential buyers who asked 
me if I was going to sell,  even though I did not say my place was for sale. 
Two potential buyers  already live in the building but are renting from 
another owner. The  third rented a room in my condo last summer. 

The 5-Day method is  designed to reach the buyer pool and then get bidders 
down to the 2-4  people who are really interested. I believe I already have 
those people  and thus I designed the 1-Day sale. Hence, I do not need to 
advertise  and make so many flyers and phone calls. I did not put a price in 
the  flyer because the half-price method is just to get responses from the  
buyer pool, and they can bid a penny if they want. I will let the  potential 
buyers determine fair market value. 

I believe the  information on the flyer is sufficient without needing a 
further  detailed description at the showing. Of course, if I don't get the 
price  I want I can do the 5-Day.

SIDE NOTE: It does not make sense to  have one penny bids when minimum bids 
are $500. Also, I am thinking  $1000 bid increments are better than $500. 
Any comments?

Tell me  what you  think,

Grant




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From crsing917 at aol.com  Sat May 15 16:23:48 2010
From: crsing917 at aol.com (crsing917 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 16:23:48 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 38, Issue 8
Message-ID: <6ab27.43f9ede5.39205cd4@aol.com>

PLEASE remove me from your list
 
 
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From piperpilot1 at sbcglobal.net  Sun May 16 12:29:44 2010
From: piperpilot1 at sbcglobal.net (piperpilot1)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 11:29:44 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] post to list
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From piperpilot1 at sbcglobal.net  Sun May 16 12:51:24 2010
From: piperpilot1 at sbcglobal.net (piperpilot1)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 11:51:24 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Seller in the Chicago, Illinois area?
Message-ID: <298140D19FEF493A8ABD1069ECA51EAA@davef1t31bkgqa>

Hi all,

Our home is presently listed with a realtor, who is having no luck (ugh!)  Are there any people in Northern Illinois (far west Chicago suburbs specifically) who have had experience useing the "5-day" method?  Would like to communicate.

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From roxanneinvestments at gmail.com  Sat May 15 17:44:06 2010
From: roxanneinvestments at gmail.com (Jill Greenberg)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 17:44:06 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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References: <585206.59292.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin1wrsF_WcAdjAn_JEj_1JjOjXdQRQQ7trKxBx-@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??

Tony

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Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
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From m_lavering at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 15:13:05 2010
From: m_lavering at yahoo.com (Michael Lavering)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 12:13:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
Message-ID: <329896.5228.qm@web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:

Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony

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Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sun May 16 16:21:17 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
Message-ID: <b1493.57a070f9.3921adbd@aol.com>

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax  only kicks in on profits, and only for high income 
individuals ($200,000+) for  income and second home properties, and for profits 
over and above the primary  resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and 
$500k for married filing  jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health  reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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(mailto:malibulearning at yahoo.com) >
Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To: Jill  Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >



 
attached







-- 
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Managing Members
Roxanne Investments  LLC



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From roxanneinvestments at gmail.com  Mon May 17 18:54:50 2010
From: roxanneinvestments at gmail.com (Jill Greenberg)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 18:54:50 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
In-Reply-To: <329896.5228.qm@web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <329896.5228.qm@web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Thanks Mike.  I do hope you are correct.

Tony

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Michael Lavering <m_lavering at yahoo.com>wrote:

>  I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax
> only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+)
> for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the
> primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married
> filing jointly.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>   Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform
> bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
>
> Tony
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jill Greenberg <malibulearning at yahoo.com>
> Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
> Subject: article on sales tax
> To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
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From m_lavering at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 20:12:31 2010
From: m_lavering at yahoo.com (michael lavering)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:12:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin3c8mRMCj9uHsSlgKR3mHBMIBKwdVwzjwL6lJ6@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Jill,

As I suspected when I read this, was a "typical" conservative response to anything this president tries to do.? While I am not 100% convinced that the health care bill was "heaven sent" I do know it it better than the "status quo" where we and the conservatives were ambvilent to 45,000 americans dying annually for lack of adaquate health care and the countless number that have gone bankrupt due to the inability to pay their medical?bills . . . 

The author of this scare tactic message, is either lying through is teeth or is grossly ignorant, don't know which is worse, except now the "message is out" and as the saying goes, a lie can get half way around the world before the truth can put its pants on.? Our conservative friends who by deed and action have proved that don't have much useful input, but?have found they can get their way by telling lies and using scare tactics . . .? The real "criminal" is the media, if the media can use a time delay feature to sensor profanity, why can't they use the same device to sensor falsehoods and out right lies?

Google it for yourself, the "facecheck.org" article is fairly straight forward and has several example to illustrate the provisions of this law.? Taxing every real estate transaction at 3.8% on the gross would be about as stupid as the Fannie / Freddie reducing the?number of mortgages from 10 to 4 during the 2008 panic.??

If you are still worried after reading the fact check article then sell your holdings now?before the law take effect in 2013.?




________________________________
From: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 2:54:50 PM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Thanks Mike.? I do hope you are correct.

Tony


On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Michael Lavering <m_lavering at yahoo.com> wrote:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org. ?The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>From: Jill Greenberg <malibulearning at yahoo.com>
>>Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
>>Subject: article on sales tax
>>To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>attached
>>
>>
>>
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From breter79 at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 21:21:37 2010
From: breter79 at yahoo.com (Terrylee Dembowski)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 18:21:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
In-Reply-To: <727891.37052.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <329896.5228.qm@web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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why don't you keep your politics out of this forum? Saying no such and such is not true would
suffice. Really don't enjoy your name calling and accusations in this forum. I signed up to be  
enlightened, not of your politics but of the validity of the 5-day methods. Thank-you, and please 
a simple yes it does or it doesn't, would have been an adequate answer.



________________________________
From: michael lavering <m_lavering at yahoo.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 8:12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Hi Jill,
 
As I suspected when I read this, was a "typical" conservative response to anything this president tries to do.  While I am not 100% convinced that the health care bill was "heaven sent" I do know it it better than the "status quo" where we and the conservatives were ambvilent to 45,000 americans dying annually for lack of adaquate health care and the countless number that have gone bankrupt due to the inability to pay their medical bills . . . 
 
The author of this scare tactic message, is either lying through is teeth or is grossly ignorant, don't know which is worse, except now the "message is out" and as the saying goes, a lie can get half way around the world before the truth can put its pants on.  Our conservative friends who by deed and action have proved that don't have much useful input, but have found they can get their way by telling lies and using scare tactics . . .  The real "criminal" is the media, if the media can use a time delay feature to sensor profanity, why can't they use the same device to sensor falsehoods and out right lies?
 
Google it for yourself, the "facecheck.org" article is fairly straight forward and has several example to illustrate the provisions of this law.  Taxing every real estate transaction at 3.8% on the gross would be about as stupid as the Fannie / Freddie reducing the number of mortgages from 10 to 4 during the 2008 panic.  
 
If you are still worried after reading the fact check article then sell your holdings now before the law take effect in 2013. 




________________________________
 From: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 2:54:50 PM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Thanks Mike.  I do hope you are correct.
 
Tony


On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Michael Lavering <m_lavering at yahoo.com> wrote:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
>> 
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>From: Jill Greenberg <malibulearning at yahoo.com>
>>Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
>>Subject: article on sales tax
>>To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>attached
>>
>>
>>
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>>Tony and Jill Greenberg
>>Managing Members
>>Roxanne Investments LLC
>>
><temp.1.bmp>
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From m_lavering at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 22:03:22 2010
From: m_lavering at yahoo.com (Michael Lavering)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:03:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
Message-ID: <6105.80599.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sorry if I offended anyone, but the author of the article that raised the concern, was described a a member of the conservative think tank . . .
 
As my dear departed mother use to say "if the truth hurts, then do something about it"

Sent from my iPhone

On May 17, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Terrylee Dembowski <breter79 at yahoo.com> wrote:

why don't you keep your politics out of this forum? Saying no such and such is not true would
suffice. Really don't enjoy your name calling and accusations in this forum. I signed up to be  
enlightened, not of your politics but of the validity of the 5-day methods. Thank-you, and please 
a simple yes it does or it doesn't, would have been an adequate answer.

From: michael lavering <m_lavering at yahoo.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 8:12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Hi Jill,
 
As I suspected when I read this, was a "typical" conservative response to anything this president tries to do.  While I am not 100% convinced that the health care bill was "heaven sent" I do know it it better than the "status quo" where we and the conservatives were ambvilent to 45,000 americans dying annually for lack of adaquate health care and the countless number that have gone bankrupt due to the inability to pay their medical bills . . .
 
The author of this scare tactic message, is either lying through is teeth or is grossly ignorant, don't know which is worse, except now the "message is out" and as the saying goes, a lie can get half way around the world before the truth can put its pants on.  Our conservative friends who by deed and action have proved that don't have much useful input, but have found they can get their way by telling lies and using scare tactics . . .  The real "criminal" is the media, if the media can use a time delay feature to sensor profanity, why can't they use the same device to sensor falsehoods and out right lies?
 
Google it for yourself, the "facecheck.org" article is fairly straight forward and has several example to illustrate the provisions of this law.  Taxing every real estate transaction at 3.8% on the gross would be about as stupid as the Fannie / Freddie reducing the number of mortgages from 10 to 4 during the 2008 panic.  
 
If you are still worried after reading the fact check article then sell your holdings now before the law take effect in 2013. 

From: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 2:54:50 PM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Thanks Mike.  I do hope you are correct.
 
Tony

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Michael Lavering <m_lavering at yahoo.com> wrote:
I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:

Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jill Greenberg <malibulearning at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>


attached




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From nanlill at aol.com  Mon May 17 22:06:09 2010
From: nanlill at aol.com (nanlill at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 02:06:09 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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There is a world of misinformation out there...thanks for clearing it up. ;)
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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From ronole at gmail.com  Mon May 17 22:08:48 2010
From: ronole at gmail.com (Ronald M. Smith)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:08:48 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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Jill,

 Good information.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Terrylee Dembowski <breter79 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> why don't you keep your politics out of this forum? Saying no such and such
> is not true would
> suffice. Really don't enjoy your name calling and accusations in this
> forum. I signed up to be
> enlightened, not of your politics but of the validity of the 5-day methods.
> Thank-you, and please
> a simple yes it does or it doesn't, would have been an adequate answer.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* michael lavering <m_lavering at yahoo.com>
>
> *To:* How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <
> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> *Sent:* Mon, May 17, 2010 8:12:31 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
>
> Hi Jill,
>
> As I suspected when I read this, was a "typical" conservative response to
> anything this president tries to do.  While I am not 100% convinced that the
> health care bill was "heaven sent" I do know it it better than the "status
> quo" where we and the conservatives were ambvilent to 45,000 americans dying
> annually for lack of adaquate health care and the countless number that have
> gone bankrupt due to the inability to pay their medical bills . . .
>
> The author of this scare tactic message, is either lying through is teeth
> or is grossly ignorant, don't know which is worse, except now the "message
> is out" and as the saying goes, a lie can get half way around the world
> before the truth can put its pants on.  Our conservative friends who by deed
> and action have proved that don't have much useful input, but have found
> they can get their way by telling lies and using scare tactics . . .  The
> real "criminal" is the media, if the media can use a time delay feature to
> sensor profanity, why can't they use the same device to sensor falsehoods
> and out right lies?
>
> Google it for yourself, the "facecheck.org" article is fairly straight
> forward and has several example to illustrate the provisions of this law.
> Taxing every real estate transaction at 3.8% on the gross would be about as
> stupid as the Fannie / Freddie reducing the number of mortgages from 10 to 4
> during the 2008 panic.
>
> If you are still worried after reading the fact check article then sell
> your holdings now before the law take effect in 2013.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
> *To:* How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <
> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> *Sent:* Mon, May 17, 2010 2:54:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
>
> Thanks Mike.  I do hope you are correct.
>
> Tony
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Michael Lavering <m_lavering at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>>  I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax
>> only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+)
>> for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the
>> primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married
>> filing jointly.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>   Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health
>> reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Jill Greenberg < <malibulearning at yahoo.com>malibulearning at yahoo.com
>> >
>> Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
>> Subject: article on sales tax
>> To: Jill Greenberg < <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
>> roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>  attached
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Tue May 18 10:57:02 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:57:02 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
Message-ID: <643a0.34b3ef02.392404be@aol.com>

Both shots from the hip.  We know where you both stand.  Let's  finger 
paint now.  :)

Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/17/2010 9:09:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
ronole at gmail.com writes:

Jill,  


Good information.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Terrylee Dembowski  <_breter79 at yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:breter79 at yahoo.com) > wrote:


 
why don't you keep your politics out of this forum? Saying no such and  
such is not true would
suffice. Really don't enjoy your name calling and accusations in this  
forum. I signed up to be  
enlightened, not of your politics but of the validity of the 5-day  
methods. Thank-you, and please 
a simple yes it does or it doesn't, would have been an adequate  answer.

 
____________________________________
 From: michael lavering <_m_lavering at yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:m_lavering at yahoo.com) >  

To: How To  Sell Your Home in 5-Days 
<_5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) >

Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 8:12:31 PM  
 


Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax






Hi Jill,
 
As I suspected when I read this, was a "typical" conservative response  to 
anything this president tries to do.  While I am not 100% convinced  that 
the health care bill was "heaven sent" I do know it it better than the  
"status quo" where we and the conservatives were ambvilent to 45,000  americans 
dying annually for lack of adaquate health care and the countless  number that 
have gone bankrupt due to the inability to pay their  medical bills . . . 
 
The author of this scare tactic message, is either lying through is  teeth 
or is grossly ignorant, don't know which is worse, except now the  "message 
is out" and as the saying goes, a lie can get half way around the  world 
before the truth can put its pants on.  Our conservative friends  who by deed 
and action have proved that don't have much useful input,  but have found 
they can get their way by telling lies and using scare  tactics . . .  The real 
"criminal" is the media, if the media can use a  time delay feature to 
sensor profanity, why can't they use the same device  to sensor falsehoods and 
out right lies?
 
Google it for yourself, the "_facecheck.org_ (http://facecheck.org/) " 
article is  fairly straight forward and has several example to illustrate the 
provisions  of this law.  Taxing every real estate transaction at 3.8% on the 
gross  would be about as stupid as the Fannie / Freddie reducing the number 
of  mortgages from 10 to 4 during the 2008 panic.  
 
If you are still worried after reading the fact check article then sell  
your holdings now before the law take effect in 2013. 


 
____________________________________
 From: Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days  
<_5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) >
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 2:54:50  PM
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Thanks Mike.  I do hope you are correct.
 
Tony


On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Michael Lavering  <_m_lavering at yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:m_lavering at yahoo.com) > wrote:


I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax only kicks in on profits, and  only for high income 
individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home  properties, and for profits 
over and above the primary resident exclusion,  $250k for individuals and 
$500k for married filing jointly.

Sent  from my iPhone
 

 

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) > wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health  reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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_malibulearning at yahoo.com_ (mailto:malibulearning at yahoo.com) >
Date: Fri, May  14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To: Jill  Greenberg < (mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) 
_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ (mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >



 
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From roxanneinvestments at gmail.com  Tue May 18 17:13:16 2010
From: roxanneinvestments at gmail.com (Jill Greenberg)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:13:16 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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The important thing is the details of the facts.  Thanks for pointing them
out.

Best,

Jill and Tony

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Ronald M. Smith <ronole at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jill,
>
>  Good information.
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Terrylee Dembowski <breter79 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>>  why don't you keep your politics out of this forum? Saying no such and
>> such is not true would
>> suffice. Really don't enjoy your name calling and accusations in this
>> forum. I signed up to be
>> enlightened, not of your politics but of the validity of the 5-day
>> methods. Thank-you, and please
>> a simple yes it does or it doesn't, would have been an adequate answer.
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* michael lavering <m_lavering at yahoo.com>
>>
>> *To:* How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <
>> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>> *Sent:* Mon, May 17, 2010 8:12:31 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
>>
>>  Hi Jill,
>>
>> As I suspected when I read this, was a "typical" conservative response to
>> anything this president tries to do.  While I am not 100% convinced that the
>> health care bill was "heaven sent" I do know it it better than the "status
>> quo" where we and the conservatives were ambvilent to 45,000 americans dying
>> annually for lack of adaquate health care and the countless number that have
>> gone bankrupt due to the inability to pay their medical bills . . .
>>
>> The author of this scare tactic message, is either lying through is teeth
>> or is grossly ignorant, don't know which is worse, except now the "message
>> is out" and as the saying goes, a lie can get half way around the world
>> before the truth can put its pants on.  Our conservative friends who by deed
>> and action have proved that don't have much useful input, but have found
>> they can get their way by telling lies and using scare tactics . . .  The
>> real "criminal" is the media, if the media can use a time delay feature to
>> sensor profanity, why can't they use the same device to sensor falsehoods
>> and out right lies?
>>
>> Google it for yourself, the "facecheck.org" article is fairly straight
>> forward and has several example to illustrate the provisions of this law.
>> Taxing every real estate transaction at 3.8% on the gross would be about as
>> stupid as the Fannie / Freddie reducing the number of mortgages from 10 to 4
>> during the 2008 panic.
>>
>> If you are still worried after reading the fact check article then sell
>> your holdings now before the law take effect in 2013.
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
>> *To:* How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <
>> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>> *Sent:* Mon, May 17, 2010 2:54:50 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
>>
>> Thanks Mike.  I do hope you are correct.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Michael Lavering <m_lavering at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The
>>> tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals
>>> ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and
>>> above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for
>>> married filing jointly.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <
>>> roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health
>>> reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Jill Greenberg < <malibulearning at yahoo.com>
>>> malibulearning at yahoo.com>
>>> Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
>>> Subject: article on sales tax
>>> To: Jill Greenberg < <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
>>> roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>  attached
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From daves8 at juno.com  Sun May 16 13:56:06 2010
From: daves8 at juno.com (daves8 at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 11:56:06 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
Message-ID: <20100516.115606.3220.1.daves8@juno.com>


Mostly false.  
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/realestate.asp

More anti-Obama propaganda from the right-wing.

The bill says this new tax falls only on that portion of any gain that is
?taken into account in computing taxable income? under the existing tax
code. The fact is, the first $250,000 in profit on the sale of a primary
residence (or $500,000 in the case of a married couple) is excluded from
taxable income already. (That exclusion doesn?t apply to vacation homes
or rental properties.) The vast majority of real estate transactions will
be exempt from this tax ? just in case you wanted to check the facts





On Sat, 15 May 2010 17:44:06 -0400 Jill Greenberg
<roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> writes:
Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??

Tony


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From: Jill Greenberg <malibulearning at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>



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From t_schenck at hotmail.com  Sun May 16 19:43:56 2010
From: t_schenck at hotmail.com (Tony Schenck)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 19:43:56 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 

 

Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased from bank REO departments?


Best regards, 

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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>





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From tony_debusk at hotmail.com  Mon May 17 11:00:32 2010
From: tony_debusk at hotmail.com (Tony DeBusk)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:00:32 -0500
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I have decided not to sell my home. Please take me off the email list.

 


 


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


---------- Forwarded message ----------
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Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
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From bill at effros.com  Wed May 19 11:00:07 2010
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:00:07 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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Tony and Jill,

Thanks for bringing this up, I had no idea.

The political pushing and shoving is just a normal part of life, and 
it's fine on this list as long as it's kept civil.

The point, as far as I'm concerned, is that taxing home sales really has 
nothing whatever to do with health care reform, and was included in the 
bill without the knowledge of those paying the completely unrelated tab.

Fact checking is just dandy, but going to a single site with a known 
political bias, does not qualify as fact checking.

This tax is the proverbial "nose of the camel" inside the tent of 
homeowners' retirement income.  Inflation will make it apply to almost 
everyone when they sell their last home, just like the "Alternative 
Minimum Tax", another "parallel tax" intended to target only 155 
"super-rich" tax dodging families in the entire country.

Here's a paragraph from a Congressional Budget Office brief on the AMT 
(CBO) (No. 4, April 15, 2004):

"Over the coming decade, a growing number of taxpayers will become 
liable for the AMT. In 2010, if nothing is changed, one in five 
taxpayers will have AMT liability and nearly every married taxpayer with 
income between $100,000 and $500,000 will owe the alternative tax. 
Rather than affecting only high-income taxpayers who would otherwise pay 
no tax, the AMT has extended its reach to many upper-middle-income 
households. As an increasing number of taxpayers incur the AMT, 
pressures to reduce or eliminate the tax are likely to grow."^ 
<#cite_note-cbo-11>

Once this kind of tax, which is unrelated to the program being funded, 
is established, you can't get rid of it because it turns out to fund the 
entire program it is unrelated to, and it turns out to apply to many 
more people than contemporaneous "fact checkers" would have you believe.

Homeowners, IMHO, would be wise to contact their Senators and 
Representatives to get this tax out of the Health Care Bill -- it should 
not be in there in the first place -- homeowners have already been hurt 
enough. 

Bill Effros
Author

PS -- Here is the Wikipedia site on AMT if you want to know more about 
the history of what really happens to stealth taxing mechanisms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_Minimum_Tax




Jill Greenberg wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health 
> reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
>  
> Tony
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Jill Greenberg* <malibulearning at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:malibulearning at yahoo.com>>
> Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
> Subject: article on sales tax
> To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com 
> <mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>>
>
>
> attached
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From nixplce at gmail.com  Wed May 19 10:39:14 2010
From: nixplce at gmail.com (Nick Marquez)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:39:14 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] advertising media
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From PJ323JP at aol.com  Wed May 19 11:31:25 2010
From: PJ323JP at aol.com (PJ323JP at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:31:25 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
Message-ID: <19434.507eb2b0.39255e4d@aol.com>

Daves8,
    Thanks for clearing up the mistakes.  
    I wonder if those who promote such propaganda  appreciate the damage 
they do to the true conservative cause by spreading such  misinformation.   
 
Peter
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 7:04:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
daves8 at juno.com writes:

Mostly false.  
_http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/realestate.asp_ 
(http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/realestate.asp) 
 
More anti-Obama propaganda from the right-wing.
 
The bill says this new tax falls only on that portion of any gain that is  ?
taken into account in computing taxable income? under the existing tax 
code.  The fact is, the first $250,000 in profit on the sale of a primary 
residence  (or $500,000 in the case of a married couple) is excluded from taxable 
income  already. (That exclusion doesn?t apply to vacation homes or rental  
properties.) The vast majority of real estate transactions will be exempt 
from  this tax ? just in case you wanted to check the  facts?
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Wed May 19 12:15:41 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
Message-ID: <59045.9fdc506.392568ad@aol.com>

Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Gee, I  missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high 
income." It's  what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake.  

Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell  houses 
purchased from bank REO departments?

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The  tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income 
individuals  ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits 
over and  above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and 
$500k for  married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

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(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health  reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
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To: Jill  Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
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From t_schenck at hotmail.com  Wed May 19 12:53:51 2010
From: t_schenck at hotmail.com (Tony Schenck)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:53:51 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute properties acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO departments. 

 

The question kind of answers itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to experiment on a friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable with the process of conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in mind sitting down with a local bank on a couple of properties which they have been unable to sell for quite a while. There would be an element of speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I know it's cash or nothing.


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


 



From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 
 
Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased from bank REO departments?


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>





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I think there is a Craig's list for the western slope.

Tom Hoffman-Broker/Owner
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720-540-7800
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I think there is a Craig's list for the western slope.

Tom Hoffman-Broker/Owner
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720-540-7876 fax



 

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Wed May 19 14:00:21 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
Message-ID: <60631.5f79f729.39258135@aol.com>

Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale type  
properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent prices.  They  
will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that route.  Myself, I'm a 
 cash kind of gal.  And every local investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up 
as  much as half a mill at a time.  But, I'll tell you what.   Going through 
what we all just went through, it was a complete  blessing.  The housing 
market here was dead over the winter, but values  held.  So, all I did was pay 
the taxes, insurance and utilities on three  houses I held through the 
winter.  They are gone now, and I'm picking  up some nice lots going for bargain 
prices right now.  Banks are still  bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Janet --  it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute properties 
acquired through  hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO departments. 

The question  kind of answers itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to 
experiment on a  friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable 
with the process of  conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in 
mind sitting down  with a local bank on a couple of properties which they 
have been unable to  sell for quite a while. There would be an element of 
speculation...unless  there exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it 
up somehow...I don't  know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I 
know it's cash or  nothing.

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Gee, I  missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high 
income." It's  what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake.  

Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell  houses 
purchased from bank REO departments?

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The  tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income 
individuals  ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits 
over  and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and 
$500k  for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health  reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


---------- Forwarded message  ----------
From: Jill Greenberg  <_malibulearning at yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:malibulearning at yahoo.com) >
Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To:  Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >



 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:01:38 EDT
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I wouldn't just rely on Craig's.  It has not worked for me at  all.  I do 
better through FSBO.com.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 12:53:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tomhoffman at live.com writes:

I  think there is a Craig's list for the western slope.

Tom  Hoffman-Broker/Owner
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From t_schenck at hotmail.com  Wed May 19 16:28:33 2010
From: t_schenck at hotmail.com (Tony Schenck)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 16:28:33 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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Thank Janet.

What is your market? The book says there is no seasonality but isn't Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a house? That sounds like that was your experience recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad market? I absolutely do not want to hold anything longer than the time it takes to hold the 5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an adequate bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent out the house for a while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that has to work on his/her credit score, can't put much more down than 5%, etc.

Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own challenges...


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


 



From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale type properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent prices.  They will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that route.  Myself, I'm a cash kind of gal.  And every local investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up as much as half a mill at a time.  But, I'll tell you what.  Going through what we all just went through, it was a complete blessing.  The housing market here was dead over the winter, but values held.  So, all I did was pay the taxes, insurance and utilities on three houses I held through the winter.  They are gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for bargain prices right now.  Banks are still bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute properties acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO departments. 
 
The question kind of answers itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to experiment on a friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable with the process of conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in mind sitting down with a local bank on a couple of properties which they have been unable to sell for quite a while. There would be an element of speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I know it's cash or nothing.


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 
 
Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased from bank REO departments?


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jill Greenberg <malibulearning at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>





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From: PJ323JP at aol.com (PJ323JP at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private  mortgage?  It would seem like 
an excellent strategy for those, like  you, who don't need to cash out right 
away.  The number of buyers for  your home and the selling price should both 
increase substantially in the  current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a building  lot, my credit was not 
established but the owner was willing to do a  private mortgage...at a higher 
than standard interest rate of course.  I  was happy with the deal as was the 
owner.   And I paid it off early  too.
    I have only that one experience to relate, from forty  years ago, so I 
don't know what's possible now, legally or otherwise.  
 
Peter
    
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Thank  Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is no seasonality but isn't  Than
ksgiving through January a tough time to sell a house? That sounds like  that 
was your experience recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad market? I  
absolutely do not want to hold anything longer than the time it takes to hold 
 the 5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an 
adequate  bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent out the house for 
a  while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that has 
to  work on his/her credit score, can't put much more down than 5%,  etc.
Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own  challenges...

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale  type 
properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent  prices.  They 
will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that  route.  Myself, I'm 
a cash kind of gal.  And every local investor  tells me I'm crazy to tie up 
as much as half a mill at a time.  But, I'll  tell you what.  Going through 
what we all just went through, it was  a complete blessing.  The housing 
market here was dead over the winter,  but values held.  So, all I did was pay 
the taxes, insurance and  utilities on three houses I held through the 
winter.  They are gone  now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for bargain 
prices right  now.  Banks are still bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Janet  -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute properties 
acquired  through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO departments. 

The  question kind of answers itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to 
 experiment on a friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable 
with  the process of conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in 
 mind sitting down with a local bank on a couple of properties which they  
have been unable to sell for quite a while. There would be an element of  
speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or tieing  
it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as  
I know it's cash or nothing.

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Gee,  I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high 
income."  It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake.  

Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell  houses 
purchased from bank REO departments?

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income  
individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for  profits 
over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for  individuals and 
$500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my  iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health  reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


---------- Forwarded message  ----------
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(mailto:malibulearning at yahoo.com) >
Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To:  Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >



 
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Wed May 19 19:15:39 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:15:39 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
Message-ID: <14c5.741d12c1.3925cb1b@aol.com>

Tony,
 
I am in Des Moines, IA.  The fact that this is NOT my lifestyle and  can't 
wait to move doesn't influence the fast that agricultural states have done  
better than others.  So, for the moment, I'm staying put.  Yes, the  
holidays are out as far as I'm concerned unless you are desperate.  I  pretty much 
close shop from Thanksgiving until February first.  However,  there is 
usually still some activity.  At least an inquiry.  This  year, nope.  So, that's 
how my winter went.  I played a lot of  pinochle on line.  :)
 
There are people here who are happily landlords to properties that aren't  
their "priciest" to sell.  I don't want to deal with it.  My parents  did a 
land contract twice and they failed miserably both times.  My  business 
partner, who is learning this stuff from me, (ack) also had a rental  that went 
very badly.  But it DOES work for thousands of people.   Personally, I would 
entertain and contract, but not a lease purchase.  My  homes are either new 
construction or extensive rehabs.  I don't want  someone in there that can 
walk away after they have downgraded my  properties.  I replace everything 
from all the lighting, all the  appliances, every outlet, to the house 
numbers and new mailbox.  So, I'm  sure you can see where I am coming from.  If I 
were to do a contract, where  you are the bank, I would have a lender 
involved that you develop a relationship  with who can give you a litmus test of 
viability of the ability of the buyer to  fix their credit, and also to give 
you a realistic timeline.  Then you can  set your balloon payment date 
accordingly.  You can always extend if they  are getting very close.
 
Like you said.  Selling a house the is currently being rented can have  
challenges.  As a previous renter, I always improved where I lived.   But, I 
think that is more the exception than reality will deal you.  If I  were to 
rent a property.  I would end the lease prior to selling and get  the property 
back in show case condition.  Given that, I'd rather just pay  the carrying 
cost of utilities, taxes, etc. until the property sold.
 
Soooooooo.  That should give you a fairly "windy" explanation of where  I 
am coming from.
 
Best to you in your future endeavors.  Stay involved in the  forum.  Stuff 
comes up all the time that is fantastic to know.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 3:29:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Thank  Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is no seasonality but isn't  
Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a house? That sounds like  that 
was your experience recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad market? I  
absolutely do not want to hold anything longer than the time it takes to hold 
 the 5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an 
adequate  bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent out the house for 
a  while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that has 
to  work on his/her credit score, can't put much more down than 5%,  etc.
Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own  challenges...

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale  type 
properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent  prices.  They 
will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that  route.  Myself, I'm 
a cash kind of gal.  And every local investor  tells me I'm crazy to tie up 
as much as half a mill at a time.  But, I'll  tell you what.  Going through 
what we all just went through, it was  a complete blessing.  The housing 
market here was dead over the winter,  but values held.  So, all I did was pay t
he taxes, insurance and  utilities on three houses I held through the 
winter.  They are gone  now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for bargain 
prices right  now.  Banks are still bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Janet  -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute properties 
acquired  through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO departments. 

The  question kind of answers itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to 
 experiment on a friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable 
with  the process of conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in 
 mind sitting down with a local bank on a couple of properties which they  
have been unable to sell for quite a while. There would be an element of  
speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or tieing  
it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as  
I know it's cash or nothing.

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Gee,  I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high 
income."  It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake.  

Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell  houses 
purchased from bank REO departments?

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income  
individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for  profits 
over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for  individuals and 
$500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my  iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health  reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


---------- Forwarded message  ----------
From: Jill  Greenberg <_malibulearning at yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:malibulearning at yahoo.com) >
Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To:  Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >



 
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Managing Members
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From t_schenck at hotmail.com  Wed May 19 21:57:54 2010
From: t_schenck at hotmail.com (Tony Schenck)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 21:57:54 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] offering a private mortgage
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Hi Peter -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined toward fast turnaround since I am rebuilding everything, finances, credit score etc. after the collapse of my homebuilding business, divorce etc. boohoo   With a daughter going off to college this fall, I have to be particularly imaginative and cash-generation/conservation oriented....

 

I realize "nothing down" is a chimera, but I am not shy about raising money privately as you suggest. It's either REO departments or loss mitigation officers that I foresee approaching...they, the banks, probably won't finance me (unless someone on this wonderful list has an utterly innovative way of talking a bank into letting me walk out the door with a property which I can then try to sell rapidissimo with the 5-Day system). So my rough plan is to raise some cash privately offering 8 to 10% and possibly an equity kicker, and make the banks offers until I get a property cheap enough that a 5-Day round robin auction has a solid probability of yielding more than I've paid the bank. 

 

The fallback is stay in the deal...If I've misjudged current market price and can't get a bid right away higher than what I paid the bank, then I will rent/lease option the property and my private investor (who will have been forewarned of a possible 3 to 5 year commitment) and I will hang in there.

 

Am I crazy or missing anything obvious? 


 

Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


 



From: PJ323JP at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private mortgage?  It would seem like an excellent strategy for those, like you, who don't need to cash out right away.  The number of buyers for your home and the selling price should both increase substantially in the current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a building lot, my credit was not established but the owner was willing to do a private mortgage...at a higher than standard interest rate of course.  I was happy with the deal as was the owner.   And I paid it off early too.
    I have only that one experience to relate, from forty years ago, so I don't know what's possible now, legally or otherwise.  
 
Peter
    
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Thank Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is no seasonality but isn't Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a house? That sounds like that was your experience recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad market? I absolutely do not want to hold anything longer than the time it takes to hold the 5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an adequate bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent out the house for a while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that has to work on his/her credit score, can't put much more down than 5%, etc.
Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own challenges...


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale type properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent prices.  They will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that route.  Myself, I'm a cash kind of gal.  And every local investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up as much as half a mill at a time.  But, I'll tell you what.  Going through what we all just went through, it was a complete blessing.  The housing market here was dead over the winter, but values held.  So, all I did was pay the taxes, insurance and utilities on three houses I held through the winter.  They are gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for bargain prices right now.  Banks are still bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute properties acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO departments. 
 
The question kind of answers itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to experiment on a friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable with the process of conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in mind sitting down with a local bank on a couple of properties which they have been unable to sell for quite a while. There would be an element of speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I know it's cash or nothing.


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 
 
Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased from bank REO departments?


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jill Greenberg <malibulearning at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>





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From tomhoffman at live.com  Wed May 19 22:20:21 2010
From: tomhoffman at live.com (Tom Hoffman)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:20:21 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] advertising media
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I wouldn't just rely on Craig's list either. The best media at this time is the internet and the least expensive. There are dozens of sites and most are free. Google in "Free Classified" or "Free Classified ads". If you set up with postlets they will brodcast the ads to many different sites including Craig's list. The next media is signs, sign and more signs and personally I love tagging all of the local stores and parking lots with pull-tab flyers.  One has to be clever though when tagging at Wal-Mart.

Tom Hoffman-Broker/Owner
Top Priority Realty, LLC
720-540-7800
720-540-7876 fax



 


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:01:38 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] advertising media


I wouldn't just rely on Craig's.  It has not worked for me at all.  I do better through FSBO.com.
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 12:53:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tomhoffman at live.com writes:
I think there is a Craig's list for the western slope.

Tom Hoffman-Broker/Owner
Top Priority Realty, LLC
720-540-7800
720-540-7876 fax



 


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Subject: [5-DayForum] advertising media

I need to know the best ad media for real estate in the Grand Junction Colorado area. Thanks. 


Joe


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From: PJ323JP at aol.com (PJ323JP at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 23:46:16 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] offering a private mortgage
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Tony,
    I'll let others answer your question(s) and enjoy  learning from them.  
I tossed out the private mortgage idea only because it  seems to fit the 
current lending and RE markets very well, at least for those  who can afford 
to hold the paper.  I'd be interested to read pros and cons  on the subject.
 
Peter
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 6:59:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Hi Peter  -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined toward fast 
turnaround since I  am rebuilding everything, finances, credit score etc. after 
the collapse of my  homebuilding business, divorce etc. boohoo   With a 
daughter going off to college this fall, I have to  be particularly imaginative 
and cash-generation/conservation  oriented....

I realize "nothing down" is a chimera, but I am not  shy about raising 
money privately as you suggest. It's either REO departments  or loss mitigation 
officers that I foresee approaching...they, the banks,  probably won't 
finance me (unless someone on this wonderful list has an  utterly innovative way 
of talking a bank into letting me walk out the door  with a property which I 
can then try to sell rapidissimo with the 5-Day  system). So my rough plan 
is to raise some cash privately offering 8 to 10%  and possibly an equity 
kicker, and make the banks offers until I get a  property cheap enough that a 
5-Day round robin auction has a solid probability  of yielding more than 
I've paid the bank. 

The fallback is stay  in the deal...If I've misjudged current market price 
and can't get a bid right  away higher than what I paid the bank, then I 
will rent/lease option the  property and my private investor (who will have 
been forewarned of a  possible 3 to 5 year commitment) and I will hang in there.

Am I  crazy or missing anything obvious? 


Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: PJ323JP at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private  mortgage?  It would seem like 
an excellent strategy for those, like  you, who don't need to cash out right 
away.  The number of buyers  for your home and the selling price should both 
increase substantially in the  current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a building  lot, my credit was not 
established but the owner was willing to do a  private mortgage...at a higher 
than standard interest rate of course.  I  was happy with the deal as was the 
owner.   And I paid it off early  too.
    I have only that one experience to relate, from forty  years ago, so I 
don't know what's possible now, legally or otherwise.   

Peter
    
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Thank  Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is no seasonality but  isn't 
Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a house? That sounds  like that 
was your experience recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad  market? I 
absolutely do not want to hold anything longer than the time it  takes to 
hold the 5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to  produce an 
adequate bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent  out the house for 
a while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with  a buyer that 
has to work on his/her credit score, can't put much more down  than 5%, etc.
Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own  challenges...

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale  type 
properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent  prices.  They 
will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that  route.  Myself, I'm 
a cash kind of gal.  And every local investor  tells me I'm crazy to tie up 
as much as half a mill at a time.  But,  I'll tell you what.  Going through 
what we all just went through,  it was a complete blessing.  The housing 
market here was dead over the  winter, but values held.  So, all I did was pay 
the taxes, insurance  and utilities on three houses I held through the 
winter.  They are  gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for bargain 
prices right  now.  Banks are still bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute  properties 
acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO  departments. 

The question kind of answers itself. As I just  emailed Bill, I am going to 
experiment on a friend's house (not in  foreclosure) to get comfortable 
with the process of conducting a 5-Day  sale. If that goes well, then I have in 
mind sitting down with a local  bank on a couple of properties which they 
have been unable to sell for  quite a while. There would be an element of 
speculation...unless there  exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it 
up somehow...I don't  know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I 
know it's cash or  nothing.

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered  "high 
income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for  heaven sake. 

Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day  system to sell houses 
purchased from bank REO departments?

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17  -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income  
individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for  profits 
over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for  individuals and 
$500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my  iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the  health reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


---------- Forwarded message  ----------
From: Jill  Greenberg <_malibulearning at yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:malibulearning at yahoo.com) >
Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To:  Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >



 
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Thu May 20 13:08:15 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:08:15 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] offering a private mortgage
Message-ID: <33bbc.43f5caea.3926c67f@aol.com>

Tony,
 
I don't' think your crazy.  But there is no wiggle room in your  plan.  I 
have to tell you... 2/3 of the properties I buy are foreclosed  properties 
from other investors trying to quickly flip a property and run out of  time 
and or money before the property is ready to be sold.  They are  generally, at 
most, half renovated, and very badly at that.  The reality  with most, and 
I mean all most all, of the foreclosed properties I look at are a  mess.  
Either from lack of care, or downright anger at losing their  home.  I have 
looked at ones with gunshots in them, feces all over the  carpets, one had 10 
cows being kept in it.  All done out of anger at losing  their home.  It's 
not like I don't feel for them, I'm just pointing out the  realities of 
getting a home so far under market that you can sell it and cover  the cost of 
your private investing without another pretty hefty investment in  making it 
saleable.  Gosh, do I sound like a black hole sucking the life  out of your 
plan?!?!?!?!  The best re pos I have seen come through the  auction houses, 
because they have at least cleaned up the property.  But,  then there is 
their hefty fee to pay.  I generally get out of most of the  fee because I write 
a check on the spot.
 
Anyway, I am rambling and not sure if I'm giving you any useful information 
 or not.
 
I do wish you the GREATEST of luck!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 8:58:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Hi Peter  -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined toward fast 
turnaround since I  am rebuilding everything, finances, credit score etc. after 
the collapse of my  homebuilding business, divorce etc. boohoo   With a 
daughter going off to college this fall,  I have to be particularly imaginative 
and cash-generation/conservation  oriented....

I realize "nothing down" is a chimera, but I am not  shy about raising 
money privately as you suggest. It's either REO departments  or loss mitigation 
officers that I foresee approaching...they, the banks,  probably won't 
finance me (unless someone on this wonderful list has an  utterly innovative way 
of talking a bank into letting me walk out the door  with a property which I 
can then try to sell rapidissimo with the 5-Day  system). So my rough plan 
is to raise some cash privately offering 8 to 10%  and possibly an equity 
kicker, and make the banks offers until I get a  property cheap enough that a 
5-Day round robin auction has a solid probability  of yielding more than 
I've paid the bank. 

The fallback is stay  in the deal...If I've misjudged current market price 
and can't get a bid right  away higher than what I paid the bank, then I 
will rent/lease option the  property and my private investor (who will have 
been forewarned of a  possible 3 to 5 year commitment) and I will hang in there.

Am I  crazy or missing anything obvious? 


Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: PJ323JP at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private  mortgage?  It would seem like 
an excellent strategy for those, like  you, who don't need to cash out right 
away.  The number of buyers  for your home and the selling price should both 
increase substantially in the  current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a building  lot, my credit was not 
established but the owner was willing to do a  private mortgage...at a higher 
than standard interest rate of course.  I  was happy with the deal as was the 
owner.   And I paid it off early  too.
    I have only that one experience to relate, from forty  years ago, so I 
don't know what's possible now, legally or otherwise.   

Peter
    
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Thank  Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is no seasonality but  isn't 
Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a house? That sounds  like that 
was your experience recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad  market? I 
absolutely do not want to hold anything longer than the time it  takes to 
hold the 5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to  produce an 
adequate bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent  out the house for 
a while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with  a buyer that 
has to work on his/her credit score, can't put much more down  than 5%, etc.
Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own  challenges...

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale  type 
properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent  prices.  They 
will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that  route.  Myself, I'm 
a cash kind of gal.  And every local investor  tells me I'm crazy to tie up 
as much as half a mill at a time.  But,  I'll tell you what.  Going through 
what we all just went through,  it was a complete blessing.  The housing 
market here was dead over the  winter, but values held.  So, all I did was pay 
the taxes, insurance  and utilities on three houses I held through the 
winter.  They are  gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for bargain 
prices right  now.  Banks are still bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute  properties 
acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO  departments. 

The question kind of answers itself. As I just  emailed Bill, I am going to 
experiment on a friend's house (not in  foreclosure) to get comfortable 
with the process of conducting a 5-Day  sale. If that goes well, then I have in 
mind sitting down with a local  bank on a couple of properties which they 
have been unable to sell for  quite a while. There would be an element of 
speculation...unless there  exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it 
up somehow...I don't  know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I 
know it's cash or  nothing.

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is  considered "high 
income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles  cost, for heaven sake. 

Janet -- Has anyone ever employed  the 5-Day system to sell houses 
purchased from bank REO  departments?

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17  -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income  
individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for  profits 
over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for  individuals and 
$500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my  iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the  health reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


---------- Forwarded message  ----------
From: Jill  Greenberg <_malibulearning at yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:malibulearning at yahoo.com) >
Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To:  Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >



 
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Managing Members
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Thu May 20 13:10:11 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:10:11 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] advertising media
Message-ID: <33da1.68f55453.3926c6f3@aol.com>

All of the following is a definite YES!!!!  Signs are my  favorite.  I 
saturate the area and people call right away wondering what  the heck is going 
on that there all these signs!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:21:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tomhoffman at live.com writes:

I  wouldn't just rely on Craig's list either. The best media at this time 
is the  internet and the least expensive. There are dozens of sites and most 
are free.  Google in "Free Classified" or "Free Classified ads". If you set 
up with  postlets they will brodcast the ads to many different sites 
including Craig's  list. The next media is signs, sign and more signs and 
personally I love  tagging all of the local stores and parking lots with pull-tab 
flyers.   One has to be clever though when tagging at Wal-Mart.

Tom  Hoffman-Broker/Owner
Top Priority Realty,  LLC
720-540-7800
720-540-7876  fax




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:01:38 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  advertising media

I wouldn't just rely on Craig's.  It has not worked for me at  all.  I do 
better through FSBO.com.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 12:53:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tomhoffman at live.com writes:

I  think there is a Craig's list for the western slope.

Tom  Hoffman-Broker/Owner
Top Priority Realty,  LLC
720-540-7800
720-540-7876  fax




 
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Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:39:14 -0600
From: nixplce at gmail.com
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I need to know the best ad media for real estate in  the Grand Junction 
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From puravidawellness at gmail.com  Thu May 20 16:47:46 2010
From: puravidawellness at gmail.com (Ileana Bourland)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:47:46 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] signs
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What do you write on the signs? The ad from the cover of the book? I started
my sale yesterday and I've only gotten 9 responses - one of those a lady who
just wanted info on the 5 day method/sell legal services - I don't know if
that one really counts. I called a sign shop and she's charging $10 for a
12x18 sign. Do you use hand written ones? How many? Do I have time to put
them up?

Oh gosh.
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Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:36:24 -0600
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Hand written signs have worked best for me, just like the ad in the book.

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Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:47:46 -0500
From: puravidawellness at gmail.com
To: 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] signs

What do you write on the signs? The ad from the cover of the book? I started my sale yesterday and I've only gotten 9 responses - one of those a lady who just wanted info on the 5 day method/sell legal services - I don't know if that one really counts. I called a sign shop and she's charging $10 for a 12x18 sign. Do you use hand written ones? How many? Do I have time to put them up?

Oh gosh.

 		 	   		  
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Thu May 20 17:52:14 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 17:52:14 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] signs
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I put up 20.  Hand write them with black marker on white so people can  
read them fast.  Don't pay so much for the sign.  See if you can get a  deal on 
blank ones with the wire posts.  If not, get the posts and go to a  dollar 
store.  They have big ones you can cut in half.  You can have  them up 
tomorrow early.  It will me a long night.... but that's one of the  greatest 
things about this thing.... EVERY thing moves fast.  And yes,  write the ad that 
is on the cover of the book.  Write them tonight and put  them up early so 
that as soon as it is light out, people see them.  GO GO  GO GO!!!
 
You can do this!  You are going to sell your home this  weekend!!!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/20/2010 3:48:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
puravidawellness at gmail.com writes:

What do  you write on the signs? The ad from the cover of the book? I 
started my sale  yesterday and I've only gotten 9 responses - one of those a lady 
who just  wanted info on the 5 day method/sell legal services - I don't 
know if that one  really counts. I called a sign shop and she's charging $10 
for a 12x18 sign.  Do you use hand written ones? How many? Do I have time to 
put them  up?

Oh gosh.




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From puravidawellness at gmail.com  Thu May 20 18:15:54 2010
From: puravidawellness at gmail.com (Ileana Bourland)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 17:15:54 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] signs
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Thanks you!!!

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 4:52 PM, <Janetislight at aol.com> wrote:

>  I put up 20.  Hand write them with black marker on white so people can
> read them fast.  Don't pay so much for the sign.  See if you can get a deal
> on blank ones with the wire posts.  If not, get the posts and go to a dollar
> store.  They have big ones you can cut in half.  You can have them up
> tomorrow early.  It will me a long night.... but that's one of the greatest
> things about this thing.... EVERY thing moves fast.  And yes, write the ad
> that is on the cover of the book.  Write them tonight and put them up early
> so that as soon as it is light out, people see them.  GO GO GO GO!!!
>
> You can do this!  You are going to sell your home this weekend!!!
>
> Janet
>
>  In a message dated 5/20/2010 3:48:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> puravidawellness at gmail.com writes:
>
> What do you write on the signs? The ad from the cover of the book? I
> started my sale yesterday and I've only gotten 9 responses - one of those a
> lady who just wanted info on the 5 day method/sell legal services - I don't
> know if that one really counts. I called a sign shop and she's charging $10
> for a 12x18 sign. Do you use hand written ones? How many? Do I have time to
> put them up?
>
> Oh gosh.
>
>
>
>
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From t_schenck at hotmail.com  Fri May 21 09:57:54 2010
From: t_schenck at hotmail.com (Tony Schenck)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 09:57:54 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Ileana Bourland
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Go Ileana, Go! You're in my prayers. Let us know if you get your 25 and do the open house.

Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


 



Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 17:15:54 -0500
From: puravidawellness at gmail.com
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] signs

Thanks you!!!


On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 4:52 PM, <Janetislight at aol.com> wrote:



I put up 20.  Hand write them with black marker on white so people can read them fast.  Don't pay so much for the sign.  See if you can get a deal on blank ones with the wire posts.  If not, get the posts and go to a dollar store.  They have big ones you can cut in half.  You can have them up tomorrow early.  It will me a long night.... but that's one of the greatest things about this thing.... EVERY thing moves fast.  And yes, write the ad that is on the cover of the book.  Write them tonight and put them up early so that as soon as it is light out, people see them.  GO GO GO GO!!!
 
You can do this!  You are going to sell your home this weekend!!!
 
Janet
 


In a message dated 5/20/2010 3:48:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, puravidawellness at gmail.com writes:

What do you write on the signs? The ad from the cover of the book? I started my sale yesterday and I've only gotten 9 responses - one of those a lady who just wanted info on the 5 day method/sell legal services - I don't know if that one really counts. I called a sign shop and she's charging $10 for a 12x18 sign. Do you use hand written ones? How many? Do I have time to put them up?

Oh gosh.



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From t_schenck at hotmail.com  Fri May 21 11:03:16 2010
From: t_schenck at hotmail.com (Tony Schenck)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:03:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet
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Peter and Janet -- Thanks for your repilies! Yes the business model has some hair on it. 

 

"run out of time and or money before the property is ready to be sold"

 

Not going to happen. Extensive rehab is not where I want to spend time and add value. I am not going after D properties in C neighborhoods, for example. So my targets are in the middle of the spectrum, not ugly and not pretty (until I am able to afford them).

 

Here is a possiblity, bank owned: http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428. Very good neighborhood.

Bank rejected $90K high bid at auction year and a half ago. Think I can get it for 140K or less. I must find a private investor who likes 8% with first lien and is willing to stay in for 3 years if necessary. 

 

Plan A: Attempt 5-Day sale. Plan B: If it doesn't produce an offer over my costs and the investor's note, then advertise the home rent to buy, "perfect credit not required," low down payment (would accept $12,000), $1600 a month, $800 monthly credit (along with DP) toward purchase at $180K. Plan C: Leave town. Just kidding!

 

The overall strategy is to team up with investor(s) who can enable me to bid like Janet...with a slightly modified exit strategy if the 5-Day doesn't produce a satisfactory bid.  

 

Janet -- I want you to keep poking holes in it! The obvious problem is "Cash is king" and at the moment I don't have any. The opportunity I think I see is that passive investors have few ways of earning 8% with some security. 

 

Best regards, 

Tony Schenck



 



From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:08:15 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] offering a private mortgage


Tony,
 
I don't' think your crazy.  But there is no wiggle room in your plan.  I have to tell you... 2/3 of the properties I buy are foreclosed properties from other investors trying to quickly flip a property and run out of time and or money before the property is ready to be sold.  They are generally, at most, half renovated, and very badly at that.  The reality with most, and I mean all most all, of the foreclosed properties I look at are a mess.  Either from lack of care, or downright anger at losing their home.  I have looked at ones with gunshots in them, feces all over the carpets, one had 10 cows being kept in it.  All done out of anger at losing their home.  It's not like I don't feel for them, I'm just pointing out the realities of getting a home so far under market that you can sell it and cover the cost of your private investing without another pretty hefty investment in making it saleable.  Gosh, do I sound like a black hole sucking the life out of your plan?!?!?!?!  The best re pos I have seen come through the auction houses, because they have at least cleaned up the property.  But, then there is their hefty fee to pay.  I generally get out of most of the fee because I write a check on the spot.
 
Anyway, I am rambling and not sure if I'm giving you any useful information or not.
 
I do wish you the GREATEST of luck!
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 8:58:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Hi Peter -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined toward fast turnaround since I am rebuilding everything, finances, credit score etc. after the collapse of my homebuilding business, divorce etc. boohoo   With a daughter going off to college this fall, I have to be particularly imaginative and cash-generation/conservation oriented....
 
I realize "nothing down" is a chimera, but I am not shy about raising money privately as you suggest. It's either REO departments or loss mitigation officers that I foresee approaching...they, the banks, probably won't finance me (unless someone on this wonderful list has an utterly innovative way of talking a bank into letting me walk out the door with a property which I can then try to sell rapidissimo with the 5-Day system). So my rough plan is to raise some cash privately offering 8 to 10% and possibly an equity kicker, and make the banks offers until I get a property cheap enough that a 5-Day round robin auction has a solid probability of yielding more than I've paid the bank. 
 
The fallback is stay in the deal...If I've misjudged current market price and can't get a bid right away higher than what I paid the bank, then I will rent/lease option the property and my private investor (who will have been forewarned of a possible 3 to 5 year commitment) and I will hang in there.
 
Am I crazy or missing anything obvious? 

 

Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: PJ323JP at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private mortgage?  It would seem like an excellent strategy for those, like you, who don't need to cash out right away.  The number of buyers for your home and the selling price should both increase substantially in the current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a building lot, my credit was not established but the owner was willing to do a private mortgage...at a higher than standard interest rate of course.  I was happy with the deal as was the owner.   And I paid it off early too.
    I have only that one experience to relate, from forty years ago, so I don't know what's possible now, legally or otherwise.  
 
Peter
    
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Thank Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is no seasonality but isn't Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a house? That sounds like that was your experience recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad market? I absolutely do not want to hold anything longer than the time it takes to hold the 5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an adequate bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent out the house for a while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that has to work on his/her credit score, can't put much more down than 5%, etc.
Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own challenges...


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale type properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent prices.  They will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that route.  Myself, I'm a cash kind of gal.  And every local investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up as much as half a mill at a time.  But, I'll tell you what.  Going through what we all just went through, it was a complete blessing.  The housing market here was dead over the winter, but values held.  So, all I did was pay the taxes, insurance and utilities on three houses I held through the winter.  They are gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for bargain prices right now.  Banks are still bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute properties acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO departments. 
 
The question kind of answers itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to experiment on a friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable with the process of conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in mind sitting down with a local bank on a couple of properties which they have been unable to sell for quite a while. There would be an element of speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I know it's cash or nothing.


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 
 
Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased from bank REO departments?


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>





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From: t_schenck at hotmail.com (Tony Schenck)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:08:17 -0400
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From: t_schenck at hotmail.com
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:03:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet



Peter and Janet -- Thanks for your repilies! Yes the business model has some hair on it. 
 
"run out of time and or money before the property is ready to be sold"
 
Not going to happen. Extensive rehab is not where I want to spend time and add value. I am not going after D properties in C neighborhoods, for example. So my targets are in the middle of the spectrum, not ugly and not pretty (until I am able to afford them).
 
Here is a possiblity, bank owned: http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428. Very good neighborhood.
Bank rejected $90K high bid at auction year and a half ago. Think I can get it for 140K or less. I must find a private investor who likes 8% with first lien and is willing to stay in for 3 years if necessary. 
 
Plan A: Attempt 5-Day sale. Plan B: If it doesn't produce an offer over my costs and the investor's note, then advertise the home rent to buy, "perfect credit not required," low down payment (would accept $12,000), $1600 a month, $800 monthly credit (along with DP) toward purchase at $180K. Plan C: Leave town. Just kidding!
 
The overall strategy is to team up with investor(s) who can enable me to bid like Janet...with a slightly modified exit strategy if the 5-Day doesn't produce a satisfactory bid.  
 
Janet -- I want you to keep poking holes in it! The obvious problem is "Cash is king" and at the moment I don't have any. The opportunity I think I see is that passive investors have few ways of earning 8% with some security. 
 
Best regards, 

Tony Schenck



  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:08:15 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] offering a private mortgage


Tony,
 
I don't' think your crazy.  But there is no wiggle room in your plan.  I have to tell you... 2/3 of the properties I buy are foreclosed properties from other investors trying to quickly flip a property and run out of time and or money before the property is ready to be sold.  They are generally, at most, half renovated, and very badly at that.  The reality with most, and I mean all most all, of the foreclosed properties I look at are a mess.  Either from lack of care, or downright anger at losing their home.  I have looked at ones with gunshots in them, feces all over the carpets, one had 10 cows being kept in it.  All done out of anger at losing their home.  It's not like I don't feel for them, I'm just pointing out the realities of getting a home so far under market that you can sell it and cover the cost of your private investing without another pretty hefty investment in making it saleable.  Gosh, do I sound like a black hole sucking the life out of your plan?!?!?!?!  The best re pos I have seen come through the auction houses, because they have at least cleaned up the property.  But, then there is their hefty fee to pay.  I generally get out of most of the fee because I write a check on the spot.
 
Anyway, I am rambling and not sure if I'm giving you any useful information or not.
 
I do wish you the GREATEST of luck!
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 8:58:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Hi Peter -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined toward fast turnaround since I am rebuilding everything, finances, credit score etc. after the collapse of my homebuilding business, divorce etc. boohoo   With a daughter going off to college this fall, I have to be particularly imaginative and cash-generation/conservation oriented....
 
I realize "nothing down" is a chimera, but I am not shy about raising money privately as you suggest. It's either REO departments or loss mitigation officers that I foresee approaching...they, the banks, probably won't finance me (unless someone on this wonderful list has an utterly innovative way of talking a bank into letting me walk out the door with a property which I can then try to sell rapidissimo with the 5-Day system). So my rough plan is to raise some cash privately offering 8 to 10% and possibly an equity kicker, and make the banks offers until I get a property cheap enough that a 5-Day round robin auction has a solid probability of yielding more than I've paid the bank. 
 
The fallback is stay in the deal...If I've misjudged current market price and can't get a bid right away higher than what I paid the bank, then I will rent/lease option the property and my private investor (who will have been forewarned of a possible 3 to 5 year commitment) and I will hang in there.
 
Am I crazy or missing anything obvious? 

 

Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: PJ323JP at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private mortgage?  It would seem like an excellent strategy for those, like you, who don't need to cash out right away.  The number of buyers for your home and the selling price should both increase substantially in the current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a building lot, my credit was not established but the owner was willing to do a private mortgage...at a higher than standard interest rate of course.  I was happy with the deal as was the owner.   And I paid it off early too.
    I have only that one experience to relate, from forty years ago, so I don't know what's possible now, legally or otherwise.  
 
Peter
    
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Thank Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is no seasonality but isn't Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a house? That sounds like that was your experience recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad market? I absolutely do not want to hold anything longer than the time it takes to hold the 5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an adequate bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent out the house for a while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that has to work on his/her credit score, can't put much more down than 5%, etc.
Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own challenges...


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale type properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent prices.  They will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that route.  Myself, I'm a cash kind of gal.  And every local investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up as much as half a mill at a time.  But, I'll tell you what.  Going through what we all just went through, it was a complete blessing.  The housing market here was dead over the winter, but values held.  So, all I did was pay the taxes, insurance and utilities on three houses I held through the winter.  They are gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for bargain prices right now.  Banks are still bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute properties acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO departments. 
 
The question kind of answers itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to experiment on a friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable with the process of conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in mind sitting down with a local bank on a couple of properties which they have been unable to sell for quite a while. There would be an element of speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I know it's cash or nothing.


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 
 
Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased from bank REO departments?


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


---------- Forwarded message ----------
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Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>





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From: t_schenck at hotmail.com (Tony Schenck)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 12:14:57 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] advertising media - www.Some365.com
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I took a look at this site, seemed malfunctioning. there was nothing in the category of housing for a number of cities, including the one closest to me, Columbia SC. Only posts dated Jan. 13, 2009 for miami Fl.  

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Don't forget www.Some365.com, it is free to post :)

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I think there is a Craig's list for the western slope.

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From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 13:49:53 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet
Message-ID: <60657.13523a03.392821c1@aol.com>

Ok.... poking.  LOL
 
Can you afford to carry it if vacant.  Is your required rent realistic  for 
the market.  Can you afford to pay for upkeep.  That is still your  
responsibility in a rental property.  Your link didn't work, so I couldn't  look at 
the property or do any research on it.  A lot has happened in the  last 1 
1/2 years.  Will the bank take $90K today?
 
You sound like you REALLY want to make this work, which is worth  
something.  Attitude counts big time.
 
I'd really like to look at the property, so if you have a better link or  
full address, I can take a peek.
 
Still hoping you can get something going....
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/21/2010 10:03:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Peter  and Janet -- Thanks for your repilies! Yes the business model has 
some hair on  it. 

"run out of time and or money before the property is ready  to be sold"

Not going to happen. Extensive rehab is not where I  want to spend time and 
add value. I am not going after D properties in C  neighborhoods, for 
example. So my targets are in the middle of the spectrum,  not ugly and not 
pretty (until I am able to afford them).

Here is  a possiblity, bank owned: 
_http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428_ (http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428) .  
Very good neighborhood.
Bank rejected $90K high bid at auction year and a  half ago. Think I can 
get it for 140K or less. I must find a private investor  who likes 8% with 
first lien and is willing to stay in for 3 years if  necessary. 

Plan A: Attempt 5-Day sale. Plan B: If it  doesn't produce an offer over my 
costs and the investor's note, then advertise  the home rent to buy, 
"perfect credit not required," low down payment  (would accept $12,000), $1600 a 
month, $800 monthly credit (along with DP)  toward purchase at $180K. Plan C: 
Leave town. Just kidding!

The  overall strategy is to team up with investor(s) who can enable me to 
bid like  Janet...with a slightly modified exit strategy if the 5-Day doesn't 
 produce a satisfactory bid.  

Janet -- I want you to keep  poking holes in it! The obvious problem is 
"Cash is king" and at the moment I  don't have any. The opportunity I think I 
see is that passive investors have  few ways of earning 8% with some 
security. 

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:08:15 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  offering a private mortgage

Tony,
 
I don't' think your crazy.  But there is no wiggle room in your  plan.  I 
have to tell you... 2/3 of the properties I buy are foreclosed  properties 
from other investors trying to quickly flip a property and run out  of time 
and or money before the property is ready to be sold.  They are  generally, at 
most, half renovated, and very badly at that.  The reality  with most, and 
I mean all most all, of the foreclosed properties I look at are  a mess.  
Either from lack of care, or downright anger at losing their  home.  I have 
looked at ones with gunshots in them, feces all over the  carpets, one had 10 
cows being kept in it.  All done out of anger at  losing their home.  It's 
not like I don't feel for them, I'm just  pointing out the realities of 
getting a home so far under market that you can  sell it and cover the cost of 
your private investing without another pretty  hefty investment in making it 
saleable.  Gosh, do I sound like a black  hole sucking the life out of your 
plan?!?!?!?!  The best re pos I have  seen come through the auction houses, 
because they have at least cleaned up  the property.  But, then there is 
their hefty fee to pay.  I  generally get out of most of the fee because I write 
a check on the  spot.
 
Anyway, I am rambling and not sure if I'm giving you any useful  
information or not.
 
I do wish you the GREATEST of luck!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 8:58:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Hi  Peter -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined toward fast 
turnaround  since I am rebuilding everything, finances, credit score etc. after 
the  collapse of my homebuilding business, divorce etc. boohoo   With a 
daughter going off to college this  fall, I have to be particularly imaginative 
and cash-generation/conservation  oriented....

I realize "nothing down" is a chimera, but I am  not shy about raising 
money privately as you suggest. It's either REO  departments or loss mitigation 
officers that I foresee  approaching...they, the banks, probably won't 
finance me (unless someone on  this wonderful list has an utterly innovative way 
of talking a bank into  letting me walk out the door with a property which I 
can then try to sell  rapidissimo with the 5-Day system). So my rough plan 
is to raise some cash  privately offering 8 to 10% and possibly an equity 
kicker, and make the  banks offers until I get a property cheap enough that a 
5-Day round robin  auction has a solid probability of yielding more than 
I've paid the bank.  

The fallback is stay in the deal...If I've misjudged current  market price 
and can't get a bid right away higher than what I paid the  bank, then I 
will rent/lease option the property and my private investor  (who will have 
been forewarned of a possible 3 to 5 year commitment)  and I will hang in there.

Am I crazy or missing anything  obvious? 


Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: PJ323JP at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private  mortgage?  It would seem like 
an excellent strategy for those, like  you, who don't need to cash out right 
away.  The number of buyers  for your home and the selling price should both 
increase substantially in  the current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a building  lot, my credit was not 
established but the owner was willing to do a  private mortgage...at a higher 
than standard interest rate of course.   I was happy with the deal as was the 
owner.   And I paid it off  early too.
    I have only that one experience to relate, from  forty years ago, so I 
don't know what's possible now, legally or  otherwise.  
 
Peter
    
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Thank Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is no  seasonality but isn't 
Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a  house? That sounds like that 
was your experience recently. Or was it an  extraordinarily bad market? I 
absolutely do not want to hold anything  longer than the time it takes to 
hold the 5-Day and close. Alternatively,  if the 5Day fails to produce an 
adequate bid, I have thought that a  fall-back could be to rent out the house for 
a while or even enter into a  lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that 
has to work on his/her credit  score, can't put much more down than 5%, etc.
Selling a house with a  renter in it can present its own challenges...

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale  type 
properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent  prices.  They 
will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that  route.  Myself, I'm 
a cash kind of gal.  And every local  investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up 
as much as half a mill at a  time.  But, I'll tell you what.  Going through 
what we all  just went through, it was a complete blessing.  The housing 
market  here was dead over the winter, but values held.  So, all I did was  pay 
the taxes, insurance and utilities on three houses I held through  the 
winter.  They are gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots  going for bargain 
prices right now.  Banks are still bailing on  those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute  properties 
acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO  departments. 

The question kind of answers itself. As I  just emailed Bill, I am going to 
experiment on a friend's house (not in  foreclosure) to get comfortable 
with the process of conducting a 5-Day  sale. If that goes well, then I have in 
mind sitting down with a local  bank on a couple of properties which they 
have been unable to sell for  quite a while. There would be an element of 
speculation...unless there  exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it 
up somehow...I don't  know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I 
know it's cash or  nothing.

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41  -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is  considered "high 
income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles  cost, for heaven sake. 

Janet -- Has anyone ever employed  the 5-Day system to sell houses 
purchased from bank REO  departments?

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17  -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income  
individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and  for profits 
over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for  individuals and 
$500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from  my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the  health reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales  tax
To: Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri May 21 14:03:06 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 14:03:06 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet
Message-ID: <61207.db9aaf4.392824da@aol.com>

 

 
 
The following is what I found on  realtor.com.  With closing costs, I'm not 
sure this is a great  investment.  The property is listed at 159,900 and 
has just sat there for a  VERY long time.  Great house though.  Would love to 
get my hands on in  for, oh, $110,000.  Spruce the outside up a bit.... 
looks dingy, and then  put in on the market for $139,900.  Quick turnover would 
net me about $15K  on a house I did very little to.
 
That would be my plan.... let's call is plan D
 
Janet
Newberry, SC Home Values Report

 
near 1225 Calhoun St, Newberry, SC  29108 
_Change Address_ 
(http://www.realtor.com/home-values/SearchNewAddress.aspx?rdPropertyType=1&hidPropertyType=1&Address=1225+Calhoun+Street&zip=29108&sear
chid=02835238-d98c-4697-bc7b-ca6c11e4fea7&searchorigin=Homepage&minPr=80000&
maxPr=167300&source=onboard)  


 
 
 
 
Homes for Sale
: 190
 
Average Listing Price
: $160,994
 
Median Listing Price
:  $85,850
 
Average Days on Market
: 216





 
 
In a message dated 5/21/2010 10:08:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:


MLS#: 253062
Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: t_schenck at hotmail.com
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010  11:03:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet

Peter and Janet -- Thanks for your repilies! Yes the business model has 
some  hair on it. 

"run out of time and or money before the property is  ready to be sold"

Not going to happen. Extensive rehab is not  where I want to spend time and 
add value. I am not going after D properties in  C neighborhoods, for 
example. So my targets are in the middle of the spectrum,  not ugly and not 
pretty (until I am able to afford them).

Here is  a possiblity, bank owned: 
_http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428_ (http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428) .  
Very good neighborhood.
Bank rejected $90K high bid at auction year and a  half ago. Think I can 
get it for 140K or less. I must find a private investor  who likes 8% with 
first lien and is willing to stay in for 3 years if  necessary. 

Plan A: Attempt 5-Day sale. Plan B: If it  doesn't produce an offer over my 
costs and the investor's note, then advertise  the home rent to buy, 
"perfect credit not required," low down payment  (would accept $12,000), $1600 a 
month, $800 monthly credit (along with DP)  toward purchase at $180K. Plan C: 
Leave town. Just kidding!

The  overall strategy is to team up with investor(s) who can enable me to 
bid like  Janet...with a slightly modified exit strategy if the 5-Day doesn't 
 produce a satisfactory bid.  

Janet -- I want you to keep  poking holes in it! The obvious problem is 
"Cash is king" and at the moment I  don't have any. The opportunity I think I 
see is that passive investors have  few ways of earning 8% with some 
security. 

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:08:15 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  offering a private mortgage

Tony,
 
I don't' think your crazy.  But there is no wiggle room in your  plan.  I 
have to tell you... 2/3 of the properties I buy are foreclosed  properties 
from other investors trying to quickly flip a property and run out  of time 
and or money before the property is ready to be sold.  They are  generally, at 
most, half renovated, and very badly at that.  The reality  with most, and 
I mean all most all, of the foreclosed properties I look at are  a mess.  
Either from lack of care, or downright anger at losing their  home.  I have 
looked at ones with gunshots in them, feces all over the  carpets, one had 10 
cows being kept in it.  All done out of anger at  losing their home.  It's 
not like I don't feel for them, I'm just  pointing out the realities of 
getting a home so far under market that you can  sell it and cover the cost of 
your private investing without another pretty  hefty investment in making it 
saleable.  Gosh, do I sound like a black  hole sucking the life out of your 
plan?!?!?!?!  The best re pos I have  seen come through the auction houses, 
because they have at least cleaned up  the property.  But, then there is 
their hefty fee to pay.  I  generally get out of most of the fee because I write 
a check on the  spot.
 
Anyway, I am rambling and not sure if I'm giving you any useful  
information or not.
 
I do wish you the GREATEST of luck!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 8:58:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Hi  Peter -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined toward fast 
turnaround  since I am rebuilding everything, finances, credit score etc. after 
the  collapse of my homebuilding business, divorce etc. boohoo   With a 
daughter going off to college this  fall, I have to be particularly imaginative 
and cash-generation/conservation  oriented....

I realize "nothing down" is a chimera, but I am  not shy about raising 
money privately as you suggest. It's either REO  departments or loss mitigation 
officers that I foresee  approaching...they, the banks, probably won't 
finance me (unless someone on  this wonderful list has an utterly innovative way 
of talking a bank into  letting me walk out the door with a property which I 
can then try to sell  rapidissimo with the 5-Day system). So my rough plan 
is to raise some cash  privately offering 8 to 10% and possibly an equity 
kicker, and make the  banks offers until I get a property cheap enough that a 
5-Day round robin  auction has a solid probability of yielding more than 
I've paid the bank.  

The fallback is stay in the deal...If I've misjudged current  market price 
and can't get a bid right away higher than what I paid the  bank, then I 
will rent/lease option the property and my private investor  (who will have 
been forewarned of a possible 3 to 5 year commitment)  and I will hang in there.

Am I crazy or missing anything  obvious? 


Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: PJ323JP at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private  mortgage?  It would seem like 
an excellent strategy for those, like  you, who don't need to cash out right 
away.  The number of buyers  for your home and the selling price should both 
increase substantially in  the current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a building  lot, my credit was not 
established but the owner was willing to do a  private mortgage...at a higher 
than standard interest rate of course.   I was happy with the deal as was the 
owner.   And I paid it off  early too.
    I have only that one experience to relate, from  forty years ago, so I 
don't know what's possible now, legally or  otherwise.  
 
Peter
    
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Thank Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is no  seasonality but isn't 
Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a  house? That sounds like that 
was your experience recently. Or was it an  extraordinarily bad market? I 
absolutely do not want to hold anything  longer than the time it takes to 
hold the 5-Day and close. Alternatively,  if the 5Day fails to produce an 
adequate bid, I have thought that a  fall-back could be to rent out the house for 
a while or even enter into a  lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that 
has to work on his/her credit  score, can't put much more down than 5%, etc.
Selling a house with a  renter in it can present its own challenges...

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale  type 
properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent  prices.  They 
will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that  route.  Myself, I'm 
a cash kind of gal.  And every local  investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up 
as much as half a mill at a  time.  But, I'll tell you what.  Going through 
what we all  just went through, it was a complete blessing.  The housing 
market  here was dead over the winter, but values held.  So, all I did was  pay 
the taxes, insurance and utilities on three houses I held through  the 
winter.  They are gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots  going for bargain 
prices right now.  Banks are still bailing on  those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute  properties 
acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO  departments. 

The question kind of answers itself. As I  just emailed Bill, I am going to 
experiment on a friend's house (not in  foreclosure) to get comfortable 
with the process of conducting a 5-Day  sale. If that goes well, then I have in 
mind sitting down with a local  bank on a couple of properties which they 
have been unable to sell for  quite a while. There would be an element of 
speculation...unless there  exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it 
up somehow...I don't  know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I 
know it's cash or  nothing.

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41  -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is  considered "high 
income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles  cost, for heaven sake. 

Janet -- Has anyone ever employed  the 5-Day system to sell houses 
purchased from bank REO  departments?

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17  -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income  
individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and  for profits 
over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for  individuals and 
$500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from  my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the  health reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


---------- Forwarded  message ----------
From: Jill Greenberg <_malibulearning at yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:malibulearning at yahoo.com) >
Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales  tax
To: Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >



 
attached







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Tony and Jill Greenberg
Managing Members
Roxanne  Investments LLC



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From patbishop100 at yahoo.com  Wed May 19 13:35:15 2010
From: patbishop100 at yahoo.com (Pat Bishop)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:35:15 -0700 (PDT)
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I have a high dollar house, not real high around 500K and I have run an ad in the newspaper but have not gotten any calls. I have also run ads online and only gotten a few calls, anybody have any ideas? This is a former bank owned property. ?




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To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 11:15:41 AM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Me.? What you want to know?

Janet

In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 
>?
>Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased from bank REO departments?
>
>
>Best regards, 
>
>Tony Schenck
>
>
>? 
>________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
>Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
>
>Nice to know!
>
>Thank you,
>
>Janet
>
>In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:
>I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org. ?The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
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>>>Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
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I think there is a Craig's list for the western slope.

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I grew up in Des Moines, don't miss the winters. :-)




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Tony,

I am in Des Moines, IA.? The fact that this is NOT my lifestyle and can't wait to move doesn't influence the fast that agricultural states have done better than others.? So, for the moment, I'm staying put.? Yes, the holidays are out as far as I'm concerned unless you are desperate.? I pretty much close shop from Thanksgiving until February first.? However, there is usually still some activity.? At least an inquiry.? This year, nope.? So, that's how my winter went.? I played a lot of pinochle on line.? :)

There are people here who are happily landlords to properties that aren't their "priciest" to sell.? I don't want to deal with it.? My parents did a land contract twice and they failed miserably both times.? My business partner, who is learning this stuff from me, (ack) also had a rental that went very badly.? But it DOES work for thousands of people.? Personally, I would entertain and contract, but not a lease purchase.? My homes are either new construction or extensive rehabs.? I don't want someone in there that can walk away after they have downgraded my properties.? I replace everything from all the lighting, all the appliances, every outlet, to the house numbers and new mailbox.? So, I'm sure you can see where I am coming from.? If I were to do a contract, where you are the bank, I would have a lender involved that you develop a relationship with who can give you a litmus test of viability of the ability of the buyer to fix their credit,
 and also to give you a realistic timeline.? Then you can set your balloon payment date accordingly.? You can always extend if they are getting very close.

Like you said.? Selling a house the is currently being rented can have challenges.? As a previous renter, I always improved where I lived.? But, I think that is more the exception than reality will deal you.? If I were to rent a property.? I would end the lease prior to selling and get the property back in show case condition.? Given that, I'd rather just pay the carrying cost of utilities, taxes, etc. until the property sold.

Soooooooo.? That should give you a fairly "windy" explanation of where I am coming from.

Best to you in your future endeavors.? Stay involved in the forum.? Stuff comes up all the time that is fantastic to know.

Janet

In a message dated 5/19/2010 3:29:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Thank Janet.
>What is your market? The book says there is no seasonality but isn't Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a house? That sounds like that was your experience recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad market? I absolutely do not want to hold anything longer than the time it takes to hold the 5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an adequate bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent out the house for a while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that has to work on his/her credit score, can't put much more down than 5%, etc.
>Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own challenges...
>
>
>Best regards, 
>
>Tony Schenck
>
>
>? 
>________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
>Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
>
>Tony,
>
>In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale type properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent prices.? They will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that route.? Myself, I'm a cash kind of gal.? And every local investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up as much as half a mill at a time.? But, I'll tell you what.? Going?through what we all just went through, it was a complete blessing.? The housing market here was dead over the winter, but values held.? So, all I did was pay the taxes, insurance and utilities on three houses I held?through the winter.? They are gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for bargain prices right now.? Banks are still bailing on those.
>
>Good luck in whatever?you?choose!
>
>Janet?
>
>In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
>Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute properties acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO departments. 
>>?
>>The question kind of answers itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to experiment on a friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable with the process of conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in mind sitting down with a local bank on a couple of properties which they have been unable to sell for quite a while. There would be an element of speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I know it's cash or nothing.
>>
>>
>>Best regards, 
>>
>>Tony Schenck
>>
>>
>>? 
>>________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
>>Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
>>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
>>
>>Me.? What you want to know?
>>
>>Janet
>>
>>In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
>>Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 
>>>?
>>>Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased from bank REO departments?
>>>
>>>
>>>Best regards, 
>>>
>>>Tony Schenck
>>>
>>>
>>>? 
>>>________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
>>>Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
>>>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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>>>Nice to know!
>>>
>>>Thank you,
>>>
>>>Janet
>>>
>>>In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:
>>>I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org. ?The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.
>>>>
>>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony
>>>>>
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>>>>>Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
>>>>>Subject: article on sales tax
>>>>>To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
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From peteskram at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 10:33:42 2010
From: peteskram at yahoo.com (Pete Skram)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 07:33:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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Tony?- 
?
I'm not sure where you live or what you do.? But for most people around the US - $200k plus is a?high income - particularly those who have just lost their jobs.? I'm guessing the teachers at my kid's daycare who make $10 an hour?AND have to support a family would agree that $200k is HIGH income.? I'm not sure if you realize it - but that comment came off?as very arrogant and?offensive.?
?
Cheryl 


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From: Tony Schenck <t_schenck at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 6:43 PM




Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 
?
Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased from bank REO departments?


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


? 


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Nice to know!
?
Thank you,
?
Janet
?

In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org. ?The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
?
Tony


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From: peteskram at yahoo.com (Pete Skram)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 07:47:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] advertising media
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We're getting ready to do a sale in June.? 
?
On our last house (five years ago) - I put 8 signs up in the neighborhood on Friday night (the newspaper ad got screwed up) and I literally sold our house on Sunday.? (No auction or anything...)? Obviously, that was a very different time in the market and also a different price point.
?
Our house now is?almost 100 years old and?is on a?boulevard in a quaint part of Kansas City, MO (walk to the grocery store, shops, etc).? We've been on the market for almost 2 years - houses have held their values pretty well during the bouncy real estate market.? People love the house - but don't like the busy street.? When we bought it there were hardly any 4/5 bed?house around.? So?our 5 bed/3 bath house at this price point was?a great deal -?now there are a lot of 4 bed houses that are competing?and on quiet streets.? This plan seems like the perfect mix for us - people love the house and a little healthy competition should hopefully push someone over the hump. 
?
With that said - I'm struggline with advertising.? I think the Blvd. and neighborhood will definitely help us in advertising and are probably the best strategy in our market.? I was planning on doing a ton of signs (found an on-line deal for 100 signs, Craig's list and some home selling websites)? .
?
My friend who recommended this book also got a MLS listing last year.? Does anyone think that this is necessary?? It just doesn't seem worth it to spent $200-300 - but maybe I'm wrong.? And if for some odd reason it doesn't work for us -?we're done being on the market - I need a break (3 kids under 5 and a husband who travels) - so it's not like the MLS is going?to help as FSBO.? I'm also guessing the newspaper isn't worth it - but would love to hear input from anyone that has done this recently. 
?
Any thoughts/advice?? Thanks! 
?
Cheryl 


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From: Janetislight at aol.com <Janetislight at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] advertising media
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
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I wouldn't just rely on Craig's.? It has not worked for me at all.? I do better through FSBO.com.
?
Janet
?

In a message dated 5/19/2010 12:53:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tomhoffman at live.com writes:
I think there is a Craig's list for the western slope.

Tom Hoffman-Broker/Owner
Top Priority Realty, LLC
720-540-7800
720-540-7876 fax



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Subject: [5-DayForum] advertising media

I need to know the best ad media for real estate in the Grand Junction Colorado area. Thanks. 


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From: psp at pspreal.com (psp at pspreal.com)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:04:26 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale for condo in NJ
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From t_schenck at hotmail.com  Wed May 19 12:43:35 2010
From: t_schenck at hotmail.com (Tony Schenck)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:43:35 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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References: <585206.59292.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>,
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Bless you, Bill, for a calm and grounded response. I am ever so weary of latter day Stalinists arguing over whether I am a peasant or a kulak if I have two cows instead of one.

 

Regarding the hysteria generated by someone's post (which I never saw) about a tax on real estate profits: no one except the extremely naive would believe for a moment that the drafters of the health care bill would slip in a gross receipts tax (federal transfer tax). I lived in Brazil early in life and the phalangist government then did such nakedly confiscatory things. Nevertheless, as you point out, due to inflationa rural single-wide will go for a million bucks and everyone will be paying tax on imaginary profits.

Everyone will be a kulak!

 

On a pragmatic topic: I hope to experiment with a 5-Day sale on a house owned by a friend who had it on the market forever at around 300k, gave up and went through a broker to get a renter. My pitch to my friend is I'll do all the work for 1.5%, she picks up the advertising and compensation to the tenant for having to move. What do you think, sir?


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


 



Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:00:07 -0400
From: bill at effros.com
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Tony and Jill,

Thanks for bringing this up, I had no idea.

The political pushing and shoving is just a normal part of life, and it's fine on this list as long as it's kept civil.

The point, as far as I'm concerned, is that taxing home sales really has nothing whatever to do with health care reform, and was included in the bill without the knowledge of those paying the completely unrelated tab.

Fact checking is just dandy, but going to a single site with a known political bias, does not qualify as fact checking.

This tax is the proverbial "nose of the camel" inside the tent of homeowners' retirement income.  Inflation will make it apply to almost everyone when they sell their last home, just like the "Alternative Minimum Tax", another "parallel tax" intended to target only 155 "super-rich" tax dodging families in the entire country.

Here's a paragraph from a Congressional Budget Office brief on the AMT (CBO) (No. 4, April 15, 2004):

"Over the coming decade, a growing number of taxpayers will become liable for the AMT. In 2010, if nothing is changed, one in five taxpayers will have AMT liability and nearly every married taxpayer with income between $100,000 and $500,000 will owe the alternative tax. Rather than affecting only high-income taxpayers who would otherwise pay no tax, the AMT has extended its reach to many upper-middle-income households. As an increasing number of taxpayers incur the AMT, pressures to reduce or eliminate the tax are likely to grow."

Once this kind of tax, which is unrelated to the program being funded, is established, you can't get rid of it because it turns out to fund the entire program it is unrelated to, and it turns out to apply to many more people than contemporaneous "fact checkers" would have you believe. 

Homeowners, IMHO, would be wise to contact their Senators and Representatives to get this tax out of the Health Care Bill -- it should not be in there in the first place -- homeowners have already been hurt enough.  

Bill Effros
Author

PS -- Here is the Wikipedia site on AMT if you want to know more about the history of what really happens to stealth taxing mechanisms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_Minimum_Tax




Jill Greenberg wrote: 

Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sun May 23 10:44:04 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:44:04 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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Try signs.... I LOVE signs.  Personally, where I am this is what  works.  
People can't wait to see what all those signs are about.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/23/2010 7:37:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
patbishop100 at yahoo.com writes:

 
I have a high dollar house, not real high around 500K and I have run an  ad 
in the newspaper but have not gotten any calls. I have also run ads online  
and only gotten a few calls, anybody have any ideas? This is a former bank  
owned property.  


 
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 From: "Janetislight at aol.com"  <Janetislight at aol.com>
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 11:15:41  AM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Gee, I  missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high 
income." It's  what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake.  

Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell  houses 
purchased from bank REO departments?

Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax only kicks in on profits, and  only for high income 
individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home  properties, and for profits 
over and above the primary resident exclusion,  $250k for individuals and 
$500k for married filing jointly.

Sent  from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health  reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To:  Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:49:54 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale for condo in NJ
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I think at this point, you should cancel the sale.  You are in the  middle 
of it with nothing happening.  Push it back to after the holiday  weekend 
and try new avenues.  I say it over and over, but have you tried  signs?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/23/2010 7:40:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
psp at pspreal.com writes:

Hi all,
We're trying to do a 5-Day sale for a waterfront condo in Perth Amboy, NJ  
this weekend and we don't seem to be having much luck getting responses. We  
put classified ads in the two main newspapers for the area, posted to 
Craig's  List, and put some flyers up around the area. So far we've only got five 
calls  but two of them were from realtors pushing their services.
Anyone have any last minute suggestions? I suspect we might have to  cancel 
the sale.
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Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:26:00 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale for condo in NJ
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sun May 23 14:30:05 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 14:30:05 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale for condo in NJ
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Patric,
 
 On every corner with high traffic within a mile of the  property.  Sorry 
the response came so late, but I just received it  today.  Signs work the 
best in my area.  Another 5 day seller in the  area has had the same results.  
Like I said, push it back until after the  holiday weekend.  Just try it 
again.  Apparently not many saw your  ads, so you won't have much to explain.  
Do call those that wanted to  participate though with the new date.  Pull 
tabs in groceries and big box  stores are also effective.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/23/2010 12:26:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
psp at pspreal.com writes:

I actually submitted this message on Thursday. We ended up canceling the  
sale on Friday night. Does anyone have any advice for what to do after you  
cancel your sale? 
We're going to let a few people see the condo tonight (Sunday) and allow  
them to make an offer with the understanding that if we try to sell the place 
 the traditional way, the asking price will be much higher than the 
starting  bid.
As far as signs, where do you put them up?
- Patric


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From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) 
Date: Sun,  May 23, 2010 10:49 am
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
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I think at this point, you should cancel the sale.  You are in the  middle 
of it with nothing happening.  Push it back to after the holiday  weekend 
and try new avenues.  I say it over and over, but have you  tried signs?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/23/2010 7:40:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_psp at pspreal.com_ (mailto:psp at pspreal.com)  writes:

Hi all,
We're trying to do a 5-Day sale for a waterfront condo in Perth  Amboy, NJ 
this weekend and we don't seem to be having much luck getting  responses. We 
put classified ads in the two main newspapers for the area,  posted to 
Craig's List, and put some flyers up around the area. So far  we've only got 
five calls but two of them were from realtors pushing their  services.
Anyone have any last minute suggestions? I suspect we might have to  cancel 
the sale.
-  Patric



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From craigwork4u at aol.com  Sun May 23 08:44:19 2010
From: craigwork4u at aol.com (craigwork4u at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 08:44:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
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From: Pete Skram <peteskram at yahoo.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
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Tony - 
 
I'm not sure where you live or what you do.  But for most people around the US - $200k plus is a high income - particularly those who have just lost their jobs.  I'm guessing the teachers at my kid's daycare who make $10 an hour AND have to support a family would agree that $200k is HIGH income.  I'm not sure if you realize it - but that comment came off as very arrogant and offensive. 
 
Cheryl 


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From: Tony Schenck <t_schenck at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 6:43 PM


Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 
 
Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased from bank REO departments?


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck



  
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:




Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
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To: Janet 5-Day System <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>; bill <bill at effros.com>
Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 8:42 am
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Bless you, Bill, for a calm and grounded response. I am ever so weary of latter day Stalinists arguing over whether I am a peasant or a kulak if I have two cows instead of one.
 
Regarding the hysteria generated by someone's post (which I never saw) about a tax on real estate profits: no one except the extremely naive would believe for a moment that the drafters of the health care bill would slip in a gross receipts tax (federal transfer tax). I lived in Brazil early in life and the phalangist government then did such nakedly confiscatory things. Nevertheless, as you point out, due to inflationa rural single-wide will go for a million bucks and everyone will be paying tax on imaginary profits.
Everyone will be a kulak!
 
On a pragmatic topic: I hope to experiment with a 5-Day sale on a house owned by a friend who had it on the market forever at around 300k, gave up and went through a broker to get a renter. My pitch to my friend is I'll do all the work for 1.5%, she picks up the advertising and compensation to the tenant for having to move. What do you think, sir?


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck



  
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:00:07 -0400
From: bill at effros.com
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Tony and Jill,

Thanks for bringing this up, I had no idea.

The political pushing and shoving is just a normal part of life, and it's fine on this list as long as it's kept civil.

The point, as far as I'm concerned, is that taxing home sales really has nothing whatever to do with health care reform, and was included in the bill without the knowledge of those paying the completely unrelated tab.

Fact checking is just dandy, but going to a single site with a known political bias, does not qualify as fact checking.

This tax is the proverbial "nose of the camel" inside the tent of homeowners' retirement income.  Inflation will make it apply to almost everyone when they sell their last home, just like the "Alternative Minimum Tax", another "parallel tax" intended to target only 155 "super-rich" tax dodging families in the entire country.

Here's a paragraph from a Congressional Budget Office brief on the AMT (CBO) (No. 4, April 15, 2004):

"Over the coming decade, a growing number of taxpayers will become liable for the AMT. In 2010, if nothing is changed, one in five taxpayers will have AMT liability and nearly every married taxpayer with income between $100,000 and $500,000 will owe the alternative tax. Rather than affecting only high-income taxpayers who would otherwise pay no tax, the AMT has extended its reach to many upper-middle-income households. As an increasing number of taxpayers incur the AMT, pressures to reduce or eliminate the tax are likely to grow."

Once this kind of tax, which is unrelated to the program being funded, is established, you can't get rid of it because it turns out to fund the entire program it is unrelated to, and it turns out to apply to many more people than contemporaneous "fact checkers" would have you believe. 

Homeowners, IMHO, would be wise to contact their Senators and Representatives to get this tax out of the Health Care Bill -- it should not be in there in the first place -- homeowners have already been hurt enough.  

Bill Effros
Author

PS -- Here is the Wikipedia site on AMT if you want to know more about the history of what really happens to stealth taxing mechanisms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_Minimum_Tax




Jill Greenberg wrote: 
Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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From t_schenck at hotmail.com  Sun May 23 17:58:43 2010
From: t_schenck at hotmail.com (Tony Schenck)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 17:58:43 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet; Ileana
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Janet! Thank you again for the new feedback! In the original email that appeared in my inbox your comments were invisible until I pointed on them, left clicked and held down.
 
I think you are right on the money, no pun intended. For the bank to accept 110,000 would be great. I'm going inside of it Monday morning. The market has been extremely slow in Newberry, but properties do change hands...as Bill says, at the right price. 
 
When you say "put it on the market for 139,900," are you talking about listing it? Or doing a 5-Day with 139.9 as a target?  -- and advertising it at $69,900 OBO?
 
Special note for Ileana -- by the time you see this: did you have your open house and sell it?
 
Best regards, 

Tony Schenck  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 14:03:06 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet







The following is what I found on realtor.com.  With closing costs, I'm not sure this is a great investment.  The property is listed at 159,900 and has just sat there for a VERY long time.  Great house though.  Would love to get my hands on in for, oh, $110,000.  Spruce the outside up a bit.... looks dingy, and then put in on the market for $139,900.  Quick turnover would net me about $15K on a house I did very little to.
 
That would be my plan.... let's call is plan D
 
Janet
Newberry, SC Home Values Report

near 1225 Calhoun St, Newberry, SC 29108 Change Address 





Homes for Sale: 190

Average Listing Price: $160,994

Median Listing Price: $85,850

Average Days on Market: 216

 

In a message dated 5/21/2010 10:08:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

MLS#: 253062

Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: t_schenck at hotmail.com
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:03:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet



Peter and Janet -- Thanks for your repilies! Yes the business model has some hair on it. 
 
"run out of time and or money before the property is ready to be sold"
 
Not going to happen. Extensive rehab is not where I want to spend time and add value. I am not going after D properties in C neighborhoods, for example. So my targets are in the middle of the spectrum, not ugly and not pretty (until I am able to afford them).
 
Here is a possiblity, bank owned: http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428. Very good neighborhood.
Bank rejected $90K high bid at auction year and a half ago. Think I can get it for 140K or less. I must find a private investor who likes 8% with first lien and is willing to stay in for 3 years if necessary. 
 
Plan A: Attempt 5-Day sale. Plan B: If it doesn't produce an offer over my costs and the investor's note, then advertise the home rent to buy, "perfect credit not required," low down payment (would accept $12,000), $1600 a month, $800 monthly credit (along with DP) toward purchase at $180K. Plan C: Leave town. Just kidding!
 
The overall strategy is to team up with investor(s) who can enable me to bid like Janet...with a slightly modified exit strategy if the 5-Day doesn't produce a satisfactory bid.  
 
Janet -- I want you to keep poking holes in it! The obvious problem is "Cash is king" and at the moment I don't have any. The opportunity I think I see is that passive investors have few ways of earning 8% with some security. 
 
Best regards, 

Tony Schenck



  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:08:15 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] offering a private mortgage


Tony,
 
I don't' think your crazy.  But there is no wiggle room in your plan.  I have to tell you... 2/3 of the properties I buy are foreclosed properties from other investors trying to quickly flip a property and run out of time and or money before the property is ready to be sold.  They are generally, at most, half renovated, and very badly at that.  The reality with most, and I mean all most all, of the foreclosed properties I look at are a mess.  Either from lack of care, or downright anger at losing their home.  I have looked at ones with gunshots in them, feces all over the carpets, one had 10 cows being kept in it.  All done out of anger at losing their home.  It's not like I don't feel for them, I'm just pointing out the realities of getting a home so far under market that you can sell it and cover the cost of your private investing without another pretty hefty investment in making it saleable.  Gosh, do I sound like a black hole sucking the life out of your plan?!?!?!?!  The best re pos I have seen come through the auction houses, because they have at least cleaned up the property.  But, then there is their hefty fee to pay.  I generally get out of most of the fee because I write a check on the spot.
 
Anyway, I am rambling and not sure if I'm giving you any useful information or not.
 
I do wish you the GREATEST of luck!
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 8:58:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Hi Peter -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined toward fast turnaround since I am rebuilding everything, finances, credit score etc. after the collapse of my homebuilding business, divorce etc. boohoo   With a daughter going off to college this fall, I have to be particularly imaginative and cash-generation/conservation oriented....
 
I realize "nothing down" is a chimera, but I am not shy about raising money privately as you suggest. It's either REO departments or loss mitigation officers that I foresee approaching...they, the banks, probably won't finance me (unless someone on this wonderful list has an utterly innovative way of talking a bank into letting me walk out the door with a property which I can then try to sell rapidissimo with the 5-Day system). So my rough plan is to raise some cash privately offering 8 to 10% and possibly an equity kicker, and make the banks offers until I get a property cheap enough that a 5-Day round robin auction has a solid probability of yielding more than I've paid the bank. 
 
The fallback is stay in the deal...If I've misjudged current market price and can't get a bid right away higher than what I paid the bank, then I will rent/lease option the property and my private investor (who will have been forewarned of a possible 3 to 5 year commitment) and I will hang in there.
 
Am I crazy or missing anything obvious? 

 

Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: PJ323JP at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private mortgage?  It would seem like an excellent strategy for those, like you, who don't need to cash out right away.  The number of buyers for your home and the selling price should both increase substantially in the current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a building lot, my credit was not established but the owner was willing to do a private mortgage...at a higher than standard interest rate of course.  I was happy with the deal as was the owner.   And I paid it off early too.
    I have only that one experience to relate, from forty years ago, so I don't know what's possible now, legally or otherwise.  
 
Peter
    
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Thank Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is no seasonality but isn't Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a house? That sounds like that was your experience recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad market? I absolutely do not want to hold anything longer than the time it takes to hold the 5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an adequate bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent out the house for a while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that has to work on his/her credit score, can't put much more down than 5%, etc.
Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own challenges...


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale type properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent prices.  They will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that route.  Myself, I'm a cash kind of gal.  And every local investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up as much as half a mill at a time.  But, I'll tell you what.  Going through what we all just went through, it was a complete blessing.  The housing market here was dead over the winter, but values held.  So, all I did was pay the taxes, insurance and utilities on three houses I held through the winter.  They are gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for bargain prices right now.  Banks are still bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute properties acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO departments. 
 
The question kind of answers itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to experiment on a friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable with the process of conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in mind sitting down with a local bank on a couple of properties which they have been unable to sell for quite a while. There would be an element of speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I know it's cash or nothing.


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 
 
Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased from bank REO departments?


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 18:05:30 EDT
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Because this is a Forum, and not a direct email to email.  You can  chose 
to just received the digest or you can unsubscribe yourself at the main  web 
site.  When you signed up, and the way you signed up, you did ask for  it.  
LOL
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/23/2010 3:21:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
craigwork4u at aol.com writes:

WHY AM  I GETTING ALL THIS TRAFFIC I DID NOT ASK FOR?




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To: How To  Sell Your Home in 5-Days  
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Tony - 
 
I'm not sure where you live or what you do.  But for most  people around 
the US - $200k plus is a high income - particularly  those who have just lost 
their jobs.  I'm guessing the teachers at  my kid's daycare who make $10 an 
hour AND have to support a family  would agree that $200k is HIGH income.  
I'm not sure if you realize  it - but that comment came off as very arrogant  
and offensive. 
 
Cheryl 


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From:  Tony Schenck <_t_schenck at hotmail.com_ (mailto:t_schenck at hotmail.com) 
>
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
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Date:  Sunday, May 16, 2010, 6:43 PM

 Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high  
income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven  sake. 

Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system  to sell houses 
purchased from bank REO departments?

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) 
Date:  Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
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Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
_m_lavering at yahoo.com_ (mailto:m_lavering at yahoo.com)   writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax only kicks in on profits,  and only for high income 
individuals ($200,000+) for income and  second home properties, and for profits 
over and above the primary  resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and 
$500k for married  filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(http://us.mc634.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) 
>  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the  health reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sun May 23 18:10:55 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 18:10:55 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet; Ileana
Message-ID: <2ffb7.63e71d41.392b01ef@aol.com>

Tony,
 
First... I didn't know I had such magical email abilities!
 
I'm saying 5-day or otherwise, target $139,900.  The pictures inside  look 
amazing.  The outside unattended, but that can be fixed for very  little 
money. So, your magic number would be 69,500.  I would not pay 140K,  that is 
full price according to the market information I saw.  At 160K, I  can see 
why the bank still has it years later.
 
Let us know what you decide!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/23/2010 4:59:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Janet!  Thank you again for the new feedback! In the original email that 
appeared in  my inbox your comments were invisible until I pointed on them, 
left clicked  and held down.

I think you are right on the money, no pun  intended. For the bank to 
accept 110,000 would be great. I'm going  inside of it Monday morning. The market 
has been extremely slow in Newberry,  but properties do change hands...as 
Bill says, at the right price.  

When you say "put it on the market for 139,900," are you talking  about 
listing it? Or doing a 5-Day with 139.9 as a target?  --  and advertising it at 
$69,900 OBO?

Special note for Ileana -- by  the time you see this: did you have your 
open house and  sell it?

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck  
 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 14:03:06 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Peter and Janet




 
 
The following is what I found on  realtor.com.  With closing costs, I'm not 
sure this is a great  investment.  The property is listed at 159,900 and 
has just sat there for  a VERY long time.  Great house though.  Would love to 
get my hands  on in for, oh, $110,000.  Spruce the outside up a bit.... 
looks dingy,  and then put in on the market for $139,900.  Quick turnover would 
net me  about $15K on a house I did very little to.
 
That would be my plan.... let's call is plan  D
 
Janet
Newberry, SC Home Values Report

 
near  1225 Calhoun St,  Newberry, SC 29108 
_Change Address_ 
(http://www.realtor.com/home-values/SearchNewAddress.aspx?rdPropertyType=1&hidPropertyType=1&Address=1225+Calhoun+Street&zip=29108&sear
chid=02835238-d98c-4697-bc7b-ca6c11e4fea7&searchorigin=Homepage&minPr=80000&
maxPr=167300&source=onboard)  


 
 
 
 
Homes for Sale
: 190
 
Average Listing Price
: $160,994
 
Median Listing Price
: $85,850
 
Average Days on Market
: 216





 
 
In a message dated 5/21/2010 10:08:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:


MLS#: 253062
Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: t_schenck at hotmail.com
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010  11:03:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet

Peter and Janet -- Thanks for your repilies! Yes the business model has 
some  hair on it. 

"run out of time and or money before the property  is ready to be sold"

Not going to happen. Extensive rehab is  not where I want to spend time and 
add value. I am not going after D  properties in C neighborhoods, for 
example. So my targets are in the middle  of the spectrum, not ugly and not 
pretty (until I am able to afford  them).

Here is a possiblity, bank owned: 
_http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428_ (http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428) .  Very 
good neighborhood.
Bank rejected $90K high bid at auction year and a  half ago. Think I can 
get it for 140K or less. I must find a private  investor who likes 8% with 
first lien and is willing to stay in for 3 years  if necessary. 

Plan A: Attempt 5-Day sale. Plan B: If it  doesn't produce an offer over my 
costs and the investor's note, then  advertise the home rent to buy, 
"perfect credit not required," low down  payment (would accept $12,000), $1600 a 
month, $800 monthly credit (along  with DP) toward purchase at $180K. Plan C: 
Leave town. Just  kidding!

The overall strategy is to team up with investor(s)  who can enable me to 
bid like Janet...with a slightly modified exit strategy  if the 5-Day doesn't 
produce a satisfactory bid.  

Janet -- I want you to keep poking holes in it! The  obvious problem is 
"Cash is king" and at the moment I don't have any. The  opportunity I think I 
see is that passive investors have few ways of earning  8% with some 
security. 

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:08:15 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  offering a private mortgage

Tony,
 
I don't' think your crazy.  But there is no wiggle room in your  plan.  I 
have to tell you... 2/3 of the properties I buy are foreclosed  properties 
from other investors trying to quickly flip a property and run  out of time 
and or money before the property is ready to be sold.  They  are generally, at 
most, half renovated, and very badly at that.  The  reality with most, and 
I mean all most all, of the foreclosed properties I  look at are a mess.  
Either from lack of care, or downright anger at  losing their home.  I have 
looked at ones with gunshots in them, feces  all over the carpets, one had 10 
cows being kept in it.  All done out  of anger at losing their home.  It's 
not like I don't feel for them,  I'm just pointing out the realities of 
getting a home so far under market  that you can sell it and cover the cost of 
your private investing without  another pretty hefty investment in making it 
saleable.  Gosh, do I  sound like a black hole sucking the life out of your 
plan?!?!?!?!  The  best re pos I have seen come through the auction houses, 
because they have  at least cleaned up the property.  But, then there is 
their hefty fee  to pay.  I generally get out of most of the fee because I write 
a check  on the spot.
 
Anyway, I am rambling and not sure if I'm giving you any useful  
information or not.
 
I do wish you the GREATEST of luck!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 8:58:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Hi  Peter -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined toward fast  
turnaround since I am rebuilding everything, finances, credit score etc.  after 
the collapse of my homebuilding business, divorce etc. boohoo   With a 
daughter going off to college this  fall, I have to be particularly imaginative 
and  cash-generation/conservation oriented....

I realize "nothing  down" is a chimera, but I am not shy about raising 
money privately as you  suggest. It's either REO departments or loss mitigation 
officers  that I foresee approaching...they, the banks, probably won't 
finance  me (unless someone on this wonderful list has an utterly innovative way 
of  talking a bank into letting me walk out the door with a property which I 
 can then try to sell rapidissimo with the 5-Day system). So my rough plan  
is to raise some cash privately offering 8 to 10% and possibly an equity  
kicker, and make the banks offers until I get a property cheap enough  that a 
5-Day round robin auction has a solid probability of yielding more  than 
I've paid the bank. 

The fallback is stay in the  deal...If I've misjudged current market price 
and can't get a bid right  away higher than what I paid the bank, then I 
will rent/lease option the  property and my private investor (who will have 
been forewarned of a  possible 3 to 5 year commitment) and I will hang in there.

Am  I crazy or missing anything obvious? 


Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: PJ323JP at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private  mortgage?  It would seem like 
an excellent strategy for those, like  you, who don't need to cash out right 
away.  The number of  buyers for your home and the selling price should both 
increase  substantially in the current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a building  lot, my credit was not 
established but the owner was willing to do a  private mortgage...at a higher 
than standard interest rate of  course.  I was happy with the deal as was the 
owner.   And  I paid it off early too.
    I have only that one experience to relate, from  forty years ago, so I 
don't know what's possible now, legally or  otherwise.  
 
Peter
    
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Thank Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is  no seasonality but isn't 
Thanksgiving through January a tough time to  sell a house? That sounds like that 
was your experience recently. Or was  it an extraordinarily bad market? I 
absolutely do not want to hold  anything longer than the time it takes to 
hold the 5-Day and close.  Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an 
adequate bid, I have  thought that a fall-back could be to rent out the house for 
a while or  even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that 
has to work  on his/her credit score, can't put much more down than 5%,  etc.
Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own  challenges...

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21  -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short  sale type 
properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent  prices.  They 
will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that  route.  Myself, I'm 
a cash kind of gal.  And every local  investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up 
as much as half a mill at a  time.  But, I'll tell you what.  Going through 
what we  all just went through, it was a complete blessing.  The housing  
market here was dead over the winter, but values held.  So, all I  did was pay 
the taxes, insurance and utilities on three houses I  held through the 
winter.  They are gone now, and I'm picking  up some nice lots going for bargain 
prices right now.  Banks are  still bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute  properties 
acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO  departments. 

The question kind of answers itself. As I  just emailed Bill, I am going to 
experiment on a friend's house (not  in foreclosure) to get comfortable 
with the process of conducting a  5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in 
mind sitting down with a  local bank on a couple of properties which they 
have been unable to  sell for quite a while. There would be an element of  
speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or  tieing 
it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for  that. As far as 
I know it's cash or nothing.

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41  -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is  considered "high 
income." It's what a couple of very nice  automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 

Janet -- Has anyone  ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses 
purchased from bank  REO departments?

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17  -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight  Time, 
m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income  
individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and  for profits 
over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k  for individuals and 
$500k for married filing jointly.

Sent  from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the  health reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a  house??
 
Tony


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Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales  tax
To: Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 13:03:03 -0700 (PDT)
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We're getting ready to do a sale in June.? 
?
On our last house (five years ago) - I put 8 signs up in the neighborhood on Friday night (the newspaper ad got screwed up) and I literally sold our house on Sunday.? (No auction or anything...)? Obviously, that was a very different time in the market and also a different price point.
?
Our house now is?almost 100 years old and?is on a?boulevard in a quaint part of Kansas City, MO (walk to the grocery store, shops, etc).? We've been on the market for almost 2 years - houses have held their values pretty well during the bouncy real estate market.? People love the house - but don't like the busy street.? When we bought it there were hardly any 4/5 bed?house around.? So?our 5 bed/3 bath house at this price point was?a great deal -?now there are a lot of 4 bed houses that are competing?and on quiet streets and all over the board price-wise.? This plan seems like the perfect mix for us - people love the house and a little healthy competition should hopefully push someone over the hump. 
?
With that said - I'm struggline with advertising.? I think the Blvd. and neighborhood will definitely help us in advertising and are probably the best strategy in our market.? I was planning on doing a ton of signs (found an on-line deal for 100 signs, Craig's list and some home selling websites)? .
?
My friend who recommended this book also got a MLS listing last year.? Does anyone think that this is necessary?? It just doesn't seem worth it to spent $200-300 - but maybe I'm wrong.? And if for some odd reason it doesn't work for us -?we're done being on the market - I need a break (3 kids under 5 and a husband who travels) - so it's not like the MLS is going?to help as FSBO over the long haul.? I'm also guessing the newspaper isn't worth it - but would love to hear input from anyone that has done this recently. 
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Any thoughts/advice?? Thanks! 
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Cheryl 


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Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 16:35:55 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet
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Janet -- can you walk me through from buy at 110, sell at 140 = gross spread 30K to net 15K.

I am coming up with slightly better profitability (see attached).

 

Saw the place today. It's a gem. In top shape south of Broad Street (the "Battery" area) in Charleston it would go for over 1.5.

One plus in the Newberry area is that rehab/clean-up will be real cheap.

 

Tony






From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 14:03:06 -0400
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The following is what I found on realtor.com.  With closing costs, I'm not sure this is a great investment.  The property is listed at 159,900 and has just sat there for a VERY long time.  Great house though.  Would love to get my hands on in for, oh, $110,000.  Spruce the outside up a bit.... looks dingy, and then put in on the market for $139,900.  Quick turnover would net me about $15K on a house I did very little to.
 
That would be my plan.... let's call is plan D
 
Janet
Newberry, SC Home Values Report

near 1225 Calhoun St, Newberry, SC 29108 Change Address 





Homes for Sale: 190

Average Listing Price: $160,994

Median Listing Price: $85,850

Average Days on Market: 216

 

In a message dated 5/21/2010 10:08:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

MLS#: 253062

Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  



From: t_schenck at hotmail.com
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:03:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet



Peter and Janet -- Thanks for your repilies! Yes the business model has some hair on it. 
 
"run out of time and or money before the property is ready to be sold"
 
Not going to happen. Extensive rehab is not where I want to spend time and add value. I am not going after D properties in C neighborhoods, for example. So my targets are in the middle of the spectrum, not ugly and not pretty (until I am able to afford them).
 
Here is a possiblity, bank owned: http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428. Very good neighborhood.
Bank rejected $90K high bid at auction year and a half ago. Think I can get it for 140K or less. I must find a private investor who likes 8% with first lien and is willing to stay in for 3 years if necessary. 
 
Plan A: Attempt 5-Day sale. Plan B: If it doesn't produce an offer over my costs and the investor's note, then advertise the home rent to buy, "perfect credit not required," low down payment (would accept $12,000), $1600 a month, $800 monthly credit (along with DP) toward purchase at $180K. Plan C: Leave town. Just kidding!
 
The overall strategy is to team up with investor(s) who can enable me to bid like Janet...with a slightly modified exit strategy if the 5-Day doesn't produce a satisfactory bid.  
 
Janet -- I want you to keep poking holes in it! The obvious problem is "Cash is king" and at the moment I don't have any. The opportunity I think I see is that passive investors have few ways of earning 8% with some security. 
 
Best regards, 

Tony Schenck



  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:08:15 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] offering a private mortgage


Tony,
 
I don't' think your crazy.  But there is no wiggle room in your plan.  I have to tell you... 2/3 of the properties I buy are foreclosed properties from other investors trying to quickly flip a property and run out of time and or money before the property is ready to be sold.  They are generally, at most, half renovated, and very badly at that.  The reality with most, and I mean all most all, of the foreclosed properties I look at are a mess.  Either from lack of care, or downright anger at losing their home.  I have looked at ones with gunshots in them, feces all over the carpets, one had 10 cows being kept in it.  All done out of anger at losing their home.  It's not like I don't feel for them, I'm just pointing out the realities of getting a home so far under market that you can sell it and cover the cost of your private investing without another pretty hefty investment in making it saleable.  Gosh, do I sound like a black hole sucking the life out of your plan?!?!?!?!  The best re pos I have seen come through the auction houses, because they have at least cleaned up the property.  But, then there is their hefty fee to pay.  I generally get out of most of the fee because I write a check on the spot.
 
Anyway, I am rambling and not sure if I'm giving you any useful information or not.
 
I do wish you the GREATEST of luck!
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 8:58:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Hi Peter -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined toward fast turnaround since I am rebuilding everything, finances, credit score etc. after the collapse of my homebuilding business, divorce etc. boohoo   With a daughter going off to college this fall, I have to be particularly imaginative and cash-generation/conservation oriented....
 
I realize "nothing down" is a chimera, but I am not shy about raising money privately as you suggest. It's either REO departments or loss mitigation officers that I foresee approaching...they, the banks, probably won't finance me (unless someone on this wonderful list has an utterly innovative way of talking a bank into letting me walk out the door with a property which I can then try to sell rapidissimo with the 5-Day system). So my rough plan is to raise some cash privately offering 8 to 10% and possibly an equity kicker, and make the banks offers until I get a property cheap enough that a 5-Day round robin auction has a solid probability of yielding more than I've paid the bank. 
 
The fallback is stay in the deal...If I've misjudged current market price and can't get a bid right away higher than what I paid the bank, then I will rent/lease option the property and my private investor (who will have been forewarned of a possible 3 to 5 year commitment) and I will hang in there.
 
Am I crazy or missing anything obvious? 

 

Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: PJ323JP at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private mortgage?  It would seem like an excellent strategy for those, like you, who don't need to cash out right away.  The number of buyers for your home and the selling price should both increase substantially in the current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a building lot, my credit was not established but the owner was willing to do a private mortgage...at a higher than standard interest rate of course.  I was happy with the deal as was the owner.   And I paid it off early too.
    I have only that one experience to relate, from forty years ago, so I don't know what's possible now, legally or otherwise.  
 
Peter
    
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Thank Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is no seasonality but isn't Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a house? That sounds like that was your experience recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad market? I absolutely do not want to hold anything longer than the time it takes to hold the 5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an adequate bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent out the house for a while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that has to work on his/her credit score, can't put much more down than 5%, etc.
Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own challenges...


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale type properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent prices.  They will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that route.  Myself, I'm a cash kind of gal.  And every local investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up as much as half a mill at a time.  But, I'll tell you what.  Going through what we all just went through, it was a complete blessing.  The housing market here was dead over the winter, but values held.  So, all I did was pay the taxes, insurance and utilities on three houses I held through the winter.  They are gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for bargain prices right now.  Banks are still bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute properties acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO departments. 
 
The question kind of answers itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to experiment on a friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable with the process of conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in mind sitting down with a local bank on a couple of properties which they have been unable to sell for quite a while. There would be an element of speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or tieing it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as I know it's cash or nothing.


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 
 
Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased from bank REO departments?


Best regards, 

Tony Schenck


  


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax


Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com> wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
 
Tony


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jill Greenberg <malibulearning at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales tax
To: Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>





attached


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Tony and Jill Greenberg
Managing Members
Roxanne Investments LLC


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Mon May 24 16:37:17 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 16:37:17 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Help/Advice Please!!
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Cheryl,
 
Gosh, I think I responded to this.  It's worth a try.  I don't  think you 
need THAT many signs.  I usually do 20.  I hand write the ad  in black marker 
on a plastic white sign.  Easy to read.  There is  definitely more response 
if you hand write them.  I didn't have the  experience personally, but 
another seller here did.  Commercial signs mean  realtors, auction houses, same 
old same old.  Hand written signs are for  people like you and I.  Little 
guys trying to get the word out like a yard  sale.  Your house sounds 
wonderful.  It is too bad it's on a busy  street.  As an investor, I stay away from 
those.  Newspaper gets me  maybe one response.  Craig's nothing, but it may 
work fabulously in your  area.  Just tons of signs all over the place where 
there is activity, and  some had great success with choose your neighbor 
flyers they handed out during a  pre-move yard sale.
 
There may be someone in your geographic area with even better ideas!
 
Wishing you the Greatest of luck!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/24/2010 3:03:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
peteskram at yahoo.com writes:

We're getting ready to do a sale in June.  
 
On our last house (five years ago) - I put 8 signs up in the  neighborhood 
on Friday night (the newspaper ad got screwed up) and I  literally sold our 
house on Sunday.  (No auction or  anything...)  Obviously, that was a very 
different time in the  market and also a different price point.
 
Our house now is almost 100 years old and is on  a boulevard in a quaint 
part of Kansas City, MO (walk to the  grocery store, shops, etc).  We've been 
on the market for almost 2  years - houses have held their values pretty 
well during the bouncy real  estate market.  People love the house - but don't 
like the busy  street.  When we bought it there were hardly any 4/5 bed 
house  around.  So our 5 bed/3 bath house at this price point  was a great deal 
- now there are a lot of 4 bed houses that  are competing and on quiet 
streets and all over the board  price-wise.  This plan seems like the perfect mix 
for us - people  love the house and a little healthy competition should 
hopefully push  someone over the hump. 
 
With that said - I'm struggline with advertising.  I think the  Blvd. and 
neighborhood will definitely help us in advertising and are  probably the 
best strategy in our market.  I was planning on doing  a ton of signs (found an 
on-line deal for 100 signs, Craig's list and  some home selling websites)  .
 
My friend who recommended this book also got a MLS listing last  year.  
Does anyone think that this is necessary?  It just  doesn't seem worth it to 
spent $200-300 - but maybe I'm wrong.  And  if for some odd reason it doesn't 
work for us - we're done being on  the market - I need a break (3 kids under 
5 and a husband who travels) -  so it's not like the MLS is going to help 
as FSBO over the long  haul.  I'm also guessing the newspaper isn't worth it 
- but would  love to hear input from anyone that has done this recently. 
 
Any thoughts/advice?  Thanks! 
 
Cheryl 







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From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 16:47:45 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet
Message-ID: <6c4a9.fad6ae0.392c3ff1@aol.com>

I looked at your spread sheet and find it viable.  Don't forget county  
stamps, taxes during the time you own it, insurance during the time you own  
it.  Additionally, around here, everyone wants a home warranty.  You  might 
also want to add a percentage for a buyer's realtor if that is the best  price 
you get.  And I am being VERY conservative.  My break point is  $15K on a 
project and only if it can be done fast like yours.  Just  experience, I hack 
off $10K for getting it sold.  If it's less, my smile is  larger.  Most 
repossessions have back water bills etc., also, which your  buyer will want 
cleared prior to settlement.  You will have settlement  costs in buying and 
selling it, even without a broker.
 
So, it's just my cushion, of which some of is ALWAYS used.
 
Hope this helps!
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 5/24/2010 3:36:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Janet --  can you walk me through from buy at 110, sell at 140 = gross 
spread 30K to net  15K.
I am coming up with slightly better profitability (see  attached).

Saw the place today. It's a gem. In top shape south of  Broad Street (the 
"Battery" area) in Charleston it would go for over  1.5.
One plus in the Newberry area is that rehab/clean-up will be real  cheap.

Tony



 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 14:03:06 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Peter and Janet



 
 
The following is what I found on  realtor.com.  With closing costs, I'm not 
sure this is a great  investment.  The property is listed at 159,900 and 
has just sat there for  a VERY long time.  Great house though.  Would love to 
get my hands  on in for, oh, $110,000.  Spruce the outside up a bit.... 
looks dingy,  and then put in on the market for $139,900.  Quick turnover would 
net me  about $15K on a house I did very little to.
 
That would be my plan.... let's call is plan  D
 
Janet
Newberry, SC Home Values Report

 
near  1225 Calhoun St,  Newberry, SC 29108 
_Change Address_ 
(http://www.realtor.com/home-values/SearchNewAddress.aspx?rdPropertyType=1&hidPropertyType=1&Address=1225+Calhoun+Street&zip=29108&sear
chid=02835238-d98c-4697-bc7b-ca6c11e4fea7&searchorigin=Homepage&minPr=80000&
maxPr=167300&source=onboard)  


 
 
 
 
Homes for Sale
: 190
 
Average Listing Price
: $160,994
 
Median Listing Price
: $85,850
 
Average Days on Market
: 216





 
 
In a message dated 5/21/2010 10:08:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:


MLS#: 253062
Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: t_schenck at hotmail.com
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010  11:03:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet

Peter and Janet -- Thanks for your repilies! Yes the business model has 
some  hair on it. 

"run out of time and or money before the property  is ready to be sold"

Not going to happen. Extensive rehab is  not where I want to spend time and 
add value. I am not going after D  properties in C neighborhoods, for 
example. So my targets are in the middle  of the spectrum, not ugly and not 
pretty (until I am able to afford  them).

Here is a possiblity, bank owned: 
_http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428_ (http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428) .  Very 
good neighborhood.
Bank rejected $90K high bid at auction year and a  half ago. Think I can 
get it for 140K or less. I must find a private  investor who likes 8% with 
first lien and is willing to stay in for 3 years  if necessary. 

Plan A: Attempt 5-Day sale. Plan B: If it  doesn't produce an offer over my 
costs and the investor's note, then  advertise the home rent to buy, "p
erfect credit not required," low down  payment (would accept $12,000), $1600 a 
month, $800 monthly credit (along  with DP) toward purchase at $180K. Plan C: 
Leave town. Just  kidding!

The overall strategy is to team up with investor(s)  who can enable me to 
bid like Janet...with a slightly modified exit strategy  if the 5-Day doesn't 
produce a satisfactory bid.  

Janet -- I want you to keep poking holes in it! The  obvious problem is 
"Cash is king" and at the moment I don't have any. The  opportunity I think I 
see is that passive investors have few ways of earning  8% with some 
security. 

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:08:15 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  offering a private mortgage

Tony,
 
I don't' think your crazy.  But there is no wiggle room in your  plan.  I 
have to tell you... 2/3 of the properties I buy are foreclosed  properties 
from other investors trying to quickly flip a property and run  out of time 
and or money before the property is ready to be sold.  They  are generally, at 
most, half renovated, and very badly at that.  The  reality with most, and 
I mean all most all, of the foreclosed properties I  look at are a mess.  
Either from lack of care, or downright anger at  losing their home.  I have 
looked at ones with gunshots in them, feces  all over the carpets, one had 10 
cows being kept in it.  All done out  of anger at losing their home.  It's 
not like I don't feel for them,  I'm just pointing out the realities of 
getting a home so far under market  that you can sell it and cover the cost of 
your private investing without  another pretty hefty investment in making it 
saleable.  Gosh, do I  sound like a black hole sucking the life out of your 
plan?!?!?!?!  The  best re pos I have seen come through the auction houses, 
because they have  at least cleaned up the property.  But, then there is 
their hefty fee  to pay.  I generally get out of most of the fee because I write 
a check  on the spot.
 
Anyway, I am rambling and not sure if I'm giving you any useful  
information or not.
 
I do wish you the GREATEST of luck!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 8:58:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Hi  Peter -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined toward fast  
turnaround since I am rebuilding everything, finances, credit score etc.  after 
the collapse of my homebuilding business, divorce etc. boohoo   With a 
daughter going off to college this  fall, I have to be particularly imaginative 
and  cash-generation/conservation oriented....

I realize "nothing  down" is a chimera, but I am not shy about raising 
money privately as you  suggest. It's either REO departments or loss mitigation 
officers  that I foresee approaching...they, the banks, probably won't 
finance  me (unless someone on this wonderful list has an utterly innovative way 
of  talking a bank into letting me walk out the door with a property which I 
 can then try to sell rapidissimo with the 5-Day system). So my rough plan  
is to raise some cash privately offering 8 to 10% and possibly an equity  
kicker, and make the banks offers until I get a property cheap enough  that a 
5-Day round robin auction has a solid probability of yielding more  than 
I've paid the bank. 

The fallback is stay in the  deal...If I've misjudged current market price 
and can't get a bid right  away higher than what I paid the bank, then I 
will rent/lease option the  property and my private investor (who will have 
been forewarned of a  possible 3 to 5 year commitment) and I will hang in there.

Am  I crazy or missing anything obvious? 


Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: PJ323JP at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private  mortgage?  It would seem like an
 excellent strategy for those, like  you, who don't need to cash out right 
away.  The number of  buyers for your home and the selling price should both 
increase  substantially in the current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a building  lot, my credit was not 
established but the owner was willing to do a  private mortgage...at a higher 
than standard interest rate of  course.  I was happy with the deal as was the 
owner.   And  I paid it off early too.
    I have only that one experience to relate, from  forty years ago, so I 
don't know what's possible now, legally or  otherwise.  
 
Peter
    
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Thank Janet.
What is your market? The book says there is  no seasonality but isn't 
Thanksgiving through January a tough time to  sell a house? That sounds like that 
was your experience recently. Or was  it an extraordinarily bad market? I 
absolutely do not want to hold  anything longer than the time it takes to 
hold the 5-Day and close.  Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an 
adequate bid, I have  thought that a fall-back could be to rent out the house for 
a while or  even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that 
has to work  on his/her credit score, can't put much more down than 5%,  etc.
Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own  challenges...

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21  -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short  sale type 
properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent  prices.  They 
will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that  route.  Myself, I'm 
a cash kind of gal.  And every local  investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up 
as much as half a mill at a  time.  But, I'll tell you what.  Going through 
what we  all just went through, it was a complete blessing.  The housing  
market here was dead over the winter, but values held.  So, all I  did was pay 
the taxes, insurance and utilities on three houses I  held through the 
winter.  They are gone now, and I'm picking  up some nice lots going for bargain 
prices right now.  Banks are  still bailing on those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute  properties 
acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO  departments. 

The question kind of answers itself. As I  just emailed Bill, I am going to 
experiment on a friend's house (not  in foreclosure) to get comfortable 
with the process of conducting a  5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in 
mind sitting down with a  local bank on a couple of properties which they 
have been unable to  sell for quite a while. There would be an element of  
speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or  tieing 
it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for  that. As far as 
I know it's cash or nothing.

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
____________________________________
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41  -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:

Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is  considered "high 
income." It's what a couple of very nice  automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 

Janet -- Has anyone  ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses 
purchased from bank  REO departments?

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17  -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight  Time, 
m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax only kicks in on profits, and only for high income  
individuals ($200,000+) for income and second home properties, and  for profits 
over and above the primary resident exclusion, $250k  for individuals and 
$500k for married filing jointly.

Sent  from my iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the  health reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a  house??
 
Tony


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Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales  tax
To: Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
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From puravidawellness at gmail.com  Mon May 24 23:13:48 2010
From: puravidawellness at gmail.com (Ileana Bourland)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 22:13:48 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet; Ileana
In-Reply-To: <2ffb7.63e71d41.392b01ef@aol.com>
References: <2ffb7.63e71d41.392b01ef@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil8T55hsXowpdAbPvESeOtaAphSPvZUogR0bl5B@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Guys - I didn't have the sale, but I did put up 7 signs - all they had at
Home Depot. I got 3 responses from those, although 2 were on Sat. So I had
my "practice" and I'll have more signs up for the next sale June 5-6. Wish
me luck!

ileana

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:10 PM, <Janetislight at aol.com> wrote:

>  Tony,
>
> First... I didn't know I had such magical email abilities!
>
> I'm saying 5-day or otherwise, target $139,900.  The pictures inside look
> amazing.  The outside unattended, but that can be fixed for very little
> money. So, your magic number would be 69,500.  I would not pay 140K, that is
> full price according to the market information I saw.  At 160K, I can see
> why the bank still has it years later.
>
> Let us know what you decide!
>
> Janet
>
>  In a message dated 5/23/2010 4:59:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
>
> Janet! Thank you again for the new feedback! In the original email that
> appeared in my inbox your comments were invisible until I pointed on them,
> left clicked and held down.
>
> I think you are right on the money, no pun intended. For the bank to
> accept 110,000 would be great. I'm going inside of it Monday morning. The
> market has been extremely slow in Newberry, but properties do change
> hands...as Bill says, at the right price.
>
> When you say "put it on the market for 139,900," are you talking about
> listing it? Or doing a 5-Day with 139.9 as a target?  -- and advertising it
> at $69,900 OBO?
>
> Special note for Ileana -- by the time you see this: did you have your open
> house and sell it?
>
> *Best regards,
>
> Tony Schenck*
> ------------------------------
> From: Janetislight at aol.com
> Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 14:03:06 -0400
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet
>
>
>   The following is what I found on realtor.com.  With closing costs, I'm
> not sure this is a great investment.  The property is listed at 159,900 and
> has just sat there for a VERY long time.  Great house though.  Would love to
> get my hands on in for, oh, $110,000.  Spruce the outside up a bit.... looks
> dingy, and then put in on the market for $139,900.  Quick turnover would net
> me about $15K on a house I did very little to.
>
> That would be my plan.... let's call is plan D
>
> Janet
> Newberry, SC Home Values Report
>  near 1225 Calhoun St, Newberry, SC 29108 Change Address<http://www.realtor.com/home-values/SearchNewAddress.aspx?rdPropertyType=1&hidPropertyType=1&Address=1225+Calhoun+Street&zip=29108&searchid=02835238-d98c-4697-bc7b-ca6c11e4fea7&searchorigin=Homepage&minPr=80000&maxPr=167300&source=onboard>
>    Homes for Sale
> :* 190*
>  Average Listing Price
> :* $160,994*
>  Median Listing Price
> :* $85,850*
>  Average Days on Market
> :* 216*
>
>  In a message dated 5/21/2010 10:08:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
>
>
> MLS#: 253062
> *Best regards,
>
> Tony Schenck*
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: t_schenck at hotmail.com
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:03:16 -0400
> Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet
>
> Peter and Janet -- Thanks for your repilies! Yes the business model has
> some hair on it.
>
> "run out of time and or money before the property is ready to be sold"
>
> Not going to happen. Extensive rehab is not where I want to spend time and
> add value. I am not going after D properties in C neighborhoods, for
> example. So my targets are in the middle of the spectrum, not ugly and not
> pretty (until I am able to afford them).
>
> Here is a possiblity, bank owned:
> http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428. Very good
> neighborhood.
> Bank rejected $90K high bid at auction year and a half ago. Think I can get
> it for 140K or less. I must find a private investor who likes 8% with first
> lien and is willing to stay in for 3 years if necessary.
>
> Plan A: Attempt 5-Day sale. Plan B: If it doesn't produce an offer over my
> costs and the investor's note, then advertise the home rent to buy, "perfect
> credit not required," low down payment (would accept $12,000), $1600 a
> month, $800 monthly credit (along with DP) toward purchase at $180K. Plan C:
> Leave town. Just kidding!
>
> The overall strategy is to team up with investor(s) who can enable me to
> bid like Janet...with a slightly modified exit strategy if the 5-Day doesn't
> produce a satisfactory bid.
>
> Janet -- I want you to keep poking holes in it! The obvious problem is
> "Cash is king" and at the moment I don't have any. The opportunity I think I
> see is that passive investors have few ways of earning 8% with some
> security.
>
> *Best regards,
>
> Tony Schenck*
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: Janetislight at aol.com
> Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:08:15 -0400
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] offering a private mortgage
>
> Tony,
>
> I don't' think your crazy.  But there is no wiggle room in your plan.  I
> have to tell you... 2/3 of the properties I buy are foreclosed properties
> from other investors trying to quickly flip a property and run out of time
> and or money before the property is ready to be sold.  They are generally,
> at most, half renovated, and very badly at that.  The reality with most, and
> I mean all most all, of the foreclosed properties I look at are a mess.
> Either from lack of care, or downright anger at losing their home.  I have
> looked at ones with gunshots in them, feces all over the carpets, one had 10
> cows being kept in it.  All done out of anger at losing their home.  It's
> not like I don't feel for them, I'm just pointing out the realities of
> getting a home so far under market that you can sell it and cover the cost
> of your private investing without another pretty hefty investment in making
> it saleable.  Gosh, do I sound like a black hole sucking the life out of
> your plan?!?!?!?!  The best re pos I have seen come through the auction
> houses, because they have at least cleaned up the property.  But, then there
> is their hefty fee to pay.  I generally get out of most of the fee because I
> write a check on the spot.
>
> Anyway, I am rambling and not sure if I'm giving you any useful information
> or not.
>
> I do wish you the GREATEST of luck!
>
> Janet
>
>  In a message dated 5/19/2010 8:58:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
>
> Hi Peter -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined toward fast
> turnaround since I am rebuilding everything, finances, credit score etc.
> after the collapse of my homebuilding business, divorce etc. boohoo
> With a daughter going off to college this fall, I have to be particularly
> imaginative and cash-generation/conservation oriented....
>
> I realize "nothing down" is a chimera, but I am not shy about raising money
> privately as you suggest. It's either REO departments or loss mitigation
> officers that I foresee approaching...they, the banks, probably won't
> finance me (unless someone on this wonderful list has an utterly innovative
> way of talking a bank into letting me walk out the door with a property
> which I can then try to sell rapidissimo with the 5-Day system). So my rough
> plan is to raise some cash privately offering 8 to 10% and possibly an
> equity kicker, and make the banks offers until I get a property cheap enough
> that a 5-Day round robin auction has a solid probability of yielding more
> than I've paid the bank.
>
> The fallback is stay in the deal...If I've misjudged current market price
> and can't get a bid right away higher than what I paid the bank, then I will
> rent/lease option the property and my private investor (who will have
> been forewarned of a possible 3 to 5 year commitment) and I will hang in
> there.
>
> Am I crazy or missing anything obvious?
>
>
> *Best regards,
>
> Tony Schenck*
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: PJ323JP at aol.com
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02 -0400
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
>
> Greetings Tony,
>     Have you considered offering a private mortgage?  It would seem like an
> excellent strategy for those, like you, who don't need to cash out right
> away.  The number of buyers for your home and the selling price should both
> increase substantially in the current credit crunch.
>     When I bought my first property, a building lot, my credit was not
> established but the owner was willing to do a private mortgage...at a higher
> than standard interest rate of course.  I was happy with the deal as was the
> owner.   And I paid it off early too.
>     I have only that one experience to relate, from forty years ago, so I
> don't know what's possible now, legally or otherwise.
>
> Peter
>
>
>  In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
>
> Thank Janet.
> What is your market? The book says there is no seasonality but isn't
> Thanksgiving through January a tough time to sell a house? That sounds like
> that was your experience recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad market?
> I absolutely do not want to hold anything longer than the time it takes to
> hold the 5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an
> adequate bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent out the house
> for a while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement with a buyer that
> has to work on his/her credit score, can't put much more down than 5%, etc.
> Selling a house with a renter in it can present its own challenges...
>
> *Best regards,
>
> Tony Schenck*
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: Janetislight at aol.com
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:00:21 -0400
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
>
> Tony,
>
> In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on short sale type
> properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures at decent prices.  They
> will take cash from a mortgage if you want to go that route.  Myself, I'm a
> cash kind of gal.  And every local investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up as
> much as half a mill at a time.  But, I'll tell you what.  Going through what
> we all just went through, it was a complete blessing.  The housing market
> here was dead over the winter, but values held.  So, all I did was pay the
> taxes, insurance and utilities on three houses I held through the winter.
> They are gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for bargain
> prices right now.  Banks are still bailing on those.
>
> Good luck in whatever you choose!
>
> Janet
>
>  In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
>
> Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to ditribute properties
> acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with bank REO departments.
>
> The question kind of answers itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to
> experiment on a friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable with
> the process of conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have in
> mind sitting down with a local bank on a couple of properties which they
> have been unable to sell for quite a while. There would be an element of
> speculation...unless there exists a way of optioning the property or tieing
> it up somehow...I don't know of a bank ever having gone for that. As far as
> I know it's cash or nothing.
>
> *Best regards,
>
> Tony Schenck*
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: Janetislight at aol.com
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:15:41 -0400
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
>
> Me.  What you want to know?
>
> Janet
>
>  In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> t_schenck at hotmail.com writes:
>
> Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is considered "high
> income." It's what a couple of very nice automobiles cost, for heaven sake.
>
> Janet -- Has anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses purchased
> from bank REO departments?
>
> *Best regards,
>
> Tony Schenck*
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: Janetislight at aol.com
> Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21:17 -0400
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax
>
> Nice to know!
>
> Thank you,
>
> Janet
>
>  In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> m_lavering at yahoo.com writes:
>
> I just "googled" this question and according to Fact check.org.  The tax
> only kicks in on profits, and only for high income individuals ($200,000+)
> for income and second home properties, and for profits over and above the
> primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals and $500k for married
> filing jointly.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>   Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of the health reform
> bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a house??
>
> Tony
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Jill Greenberg* < <malibulearning at yahoo.com>
> malibulearning at yahoo.com>
> Date: Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
> Subject: article on sales tax
> To: Jill Greenberg < <roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
> roxanneinvestments at gmail.com>
>
>
>  attached
>
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From seriousproperty at gmail.com  Tue May 25 01:45:23 2010
From: seriousproperty at gmail.com (Serious Property Solutions)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 01:45:23 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Help/Advice Please!!
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Dear Cheryl,

Please stick to your gut instincts. Don't discount the fact that living on a
busy street will work to your disadvantage. It might actually be of more
benefit than you realize as you'll get tons of advertising exposure due to
the heavy volume of traffic that passes by your home each day.

My first residence sounds quite similar to yours -- full of 150+ years of
historic charm, a total beauty of a home inside and out that I lovingly and
painstakingly renovated, and within easy walking distance to the lovely
downtown area filled with lots of shops and restaurants. However, it was
located on a busy intersection and I thought it would be a major pain to
sell due to the location.

I listed my home with a Realtor (this was about 15 years ago, long before
I'd ever knew anything about the 5-Day method) and the heavy traffic that
passed by the property each day actually worked to my advantage when it came
to advertising. The Realtor's sign went up on a Thursday evening, I had a
multitude of showings over the weekend, and by Tuesday afternoon I had a
signed contract in hand that was my full asking price!

Janet is right (and she's always full of sage advice to seriously consider
-- kind of like the antiquated "when E.F. Hutton talks, you'd better listen"
commercials) in that each area is different when it comes to advertising
response. In the past, I've had great luck with Craigslist but very little
response from newspaper ads. When it comes to my area, I wholeheartedly
agree with Janet that handwritten signs and flyers reign omnipotent in
generating the best and most productive leads.

If you're not on a desperate time crunch to sell your home, I'd steer away
from listing on the MLS.... at least on your first (and hopefully last)
attempt with a 5-Day Sale. So get those signs and flyers out, spread the
word in the neighborhood (your best and cheapest form of advertising), and
keep us posted with your progress.

Best of luck with your upcoming sale. We're all pulling for you!


On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:37 PM, <Janetislight at aol.com> wrote:

>  Cheryl,
>
> Gosh, I think I responded to this.  It's worth a try.  I don't think you
> need THAT many signs.  I usually do 20.  I hand write the ad in black marker
> on a plastic white sign.  Easy to read.  There is definitely more response
> if you hand write them.  I didn't have the experience personally, but
> another seller here did.  Commercial signs mean realtors, auction houses,
> same old same old.  Hand written signs are for people like you and I.
> Little guys trying to get the word out like a yard sale.  Your house sounds
> wonderful.  It is too bad it's on a busy street.  As an investor, I stay
> away from those.  Newspaper gets me maybe one response.  Craig's nothing,
> but it may work fabulously in your area.  Just tons of signs all over the
> place where there is activity, and some had great success with choose your
> neighbor flyers they handed out during a pre-move yard sale.
>
> There may be someone in your geographic area with even better ideas!
>
> Wishing you the Greatest of luck!
>
> Janet
>
>  In a message dated 5/24/2010 3:03:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> peteskram at yahoo.com writes:
>
>   We're getting ready to do a sale in June.
>
> On our last house (five years ago) - I put 8 signs up in the neighborhood
> on Friday night (the newspaper ad got screwed up) and I literally sold our
> house on Sunday.  (No auction or anything...)  Obviously, that was a very
> different time in the market and also a different price point.
>
> Our house now is almost 100 years old and is on a boulevard in a quaint
> part of Kansas City, MO (walk to the grocery store, shops, etc).  We've been
> on the market for almost 2 years - houses have held their values pretty well
> during the bouncy real estate market.  People love the house - but don't
> like the busy street.  When we bought it there were hardly any 4/5 bed house
> around.  So our 5 bed/3 bath house at this price point was a great deal
> - now there are a lot of 4 bed houses that are competing and on quiet
> streets and all over the board price-wise.  This plan seems like the perfect
> mix for us - people love the house and a little healthy competition should
> hopefully push someone over the hump.
>
> With that said - I'm struggline with advertising.  I think the Blvd. and
> neighborhood will definitely help us in advertising and are probably the
> best strategy in our market.  I was planning on doing a ton of signs (found
> an on-line deal for 100 signs, Craig's list and some home selling websites)
> .
>
> My friend who recommended this book also got a MLS listing last year.  Does
> anyone think that this is necessary?  It just doesn't seem worth it to spent
> $200-300 - but maybe I'm wrong.  And if for some odd reason it doesn't work
> for us - we're done being on the market - I need a break (3 kids under 5 and
> a husband who travels) - so it's not like the MLS is going to help as FSBO
> over the long haul.  I'm also guessing the newspaper isn't worth it - but
> would love to hear input from anyone that has done this recently.
>
> Any thoughts/advice?  Thanks!
>
> Cheryl
>
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From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 09:21:43 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet; Ileana
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Ileana,
 
Great practice run!  Now you are a pro and can plan ahead.   Everything 
will still be fast, but it will go smoothly.  You already have  half the work 
done.
 
Wishing you the greatest of luck and we look forward to hearing how it  
goes!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/24/2010 10:15:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
puravidawellness at gmail.com writes:

Hi Guys  - I didn't have the sale, but I did put up 7 signs - all they had 
at Home  Depot. I got 3 responses from those, although 2 were on Sat. So I 
had my  "practice" and I'll have more signs up for the next sale June 5-6. 
Wish me  luck!

ileana

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:10 PM, <_Janetislight at aol.com_ 
(mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) >  wrote:


Tony,
 
First... I didn't know I had such magical email abilities!
 
I'm saying 5-day or otherwise, target $139,900.  The pictures  inside look 
amazing.  The outside unattended, but that can be fixed for  very little 
money. So, your magic number would be 69,500.  I would not  pay 140K, that is 
full price according to the market information I  saw.  At 160K, I can see 
why the bank still has it years later.
 
Let us know what you decide!
 
Janet
 
 
 

 
In a message dated 5/23/2010 4:59:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_t_schenck at hotmail.com_ (mailto:t_schenck at hotmail.com)  writes:



 

Janet! Thank you again for the new feedback! In the original  email that 
appeared in my inbox your comments were invisible until I  pointed on them, 
left clicked and held down.

I think you are  right on the money, no pun intended. For the bank to  
accept 110,000 would be great. I'm going inside of it Monday morning.  The 
market has been extremely slow in Newberry, but properties do change  hands...as 
Bill says, at the right price. 

When you say "put  it on the market for 139,900," are you talking about 
listing it? Or doing  a 5-Day with 139.9 as a target?  -- and advertising it at 
 $69,900 OBO?

Special note for Ileana -- by the time you see  this: did you have your 
open house and sell it?

Best regards,  

Tony Schenck  
 
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From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) 
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 14:03:06  -0400
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) 
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Peter and Janet




 
 
The following is what I found on _realtor.com_ (http://realtor.com/) .  
With closing costs, I'm not sure this  is a great investment.  The property is 
listed at 159,900 and has  just sat there for a VERY long time.  Great house 
though.  Would  love to get my hands on in for, oh, $110,000.  Spruce the 
outside up  a bit.... looks dingy, and then put in on the market for 
$139,900.   Quick turnover would net me about $15K on a house I did very little  to.
 
That would be my plan.... let's call is plan D
 
Janet
Newberry, SC Home Values Report

 
near 1225 Calhoun St, Newberry, SC 29108  
_Change Address_ 
(http://www.realtor.com/home-values/SearchNewAddress.aspx?rdPropertyType=1&hidPropertyType=1&Address=1225+Calhoun+Street&zip=29108&sear
chid=02835238-d98c-4697-bc7b-ca6c11e4fea7&searchorigin=Homepage&minPr=80000&
maxPr=167300&source=onboard)  


 
 
 
 
Homes for Sale
: 190
 
Average Listing Price
: $160,994
 
Median Listing Price
: $85,850
 
Average Days on Market
: 216





 
 
In a message dated 5/21/2010 10:08:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_t_schenck at hotmail.com_ (mailto:t_schenck at hotmail.com)  writes:


MLS#: 253062
Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: _t_schenck at hotmail.com_ (mailto:t_schenck at hotmail.com) 
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) 
Date:  Fri, 21 May 2010 11:03:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Peter and  Janet

Peter and Janet -- Thanks for your repilies! Yes the  business model has 
some hair on it. 

"run out of time and  or money before the property is ready to be sold"

Not going  to happen. Extensive rehab is not where I want to spend time and 
add  value. I am not going after D properties in C neighborhoods, for  
example. So my targets are in the middle of the spectrum, not ugly and  not 
pretty (until I am able to afford them).

Here is a  possiblity, bank owned: 
_http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428_ (http://colamls.com/template31/nextpage.asp?mnu=48428) .  
Very good neighborhood.
Bank rejected $90K high bid at auction year  and a half ago. Think I can 
get it for 140K or less. I must find a  private investor who likes 8% with 
first lien and is willing to stay in  for 3 years if necessary. 

Plan A: Attempt 5-Day sale.  Plan B: If it doesn't produce an offer over my 
costs and the investor's  note, then advertise the home rent to buy, 
"perfect credit not  required," low down payment (would accept $12,000), $1600 a 
month, $800  monthly credit (along with DP) toward purchase at $180K. Plan C: 
Leave  town. Just kidding!

The overall strategy is to team up with  investor(s) who can enable me to 
bid like Janet...with a slightly  modified exit strategy if the 5-Day doesn't 
produce a satisfactory  bid.  

Janet -- I want you to keep poking holes in it!  The obvious problem is 
"Cash is king" and at the moment I don't have  any. The opportunity I think I 
see is that passive investors have few  ways of earning 8% with some 
security. 

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) 
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010  13:08:15 -0400
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) 
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] offering a private mortgage

Tony,
 
I don't' think your crazy.  But there is no wiggle room in  your plan.  I 
have to tell you... 2/3 of the properties I buy are  foreclosed properties 
from other investors trying to quickly flip a  property and run out of time 
and or money before the property is ready  to be sold.  They are generally, at 
most, half renovated, and very  badly at that.  The reality with most, and 
I mean all most all, of  the foreclosed properties I look at are a mess.  
Either from lack  of care, or downright anger at losing their home.  I have 
looked at  ones with gunshots in them, feces all over the carpets, one had 10 
cows  being kept in it.  All done out of anger at losing their  home.  It's 
not like I don't feel for them, I'm just pointing out  the realities of 
getting a home so far under market that you can sell it  and cover the cost of 
your private investing without another pretty  hefty investment in making it 
saleable.  Gosh, do I sound like a  black hole sucking the life out of your 
plan?!?!?!?!  The best re  pos I have seen come through the auction houses, 
because they have at  least cleaned up the property.  But, then there is 
their hefty fee  to pay.  I generally get out of most of the fee because I 
write a  check on the spot.
 
Anyway, I am rambling and not sure if I'm giving you any useful  
information or not.
 
I do wish you the GREATEST of luck!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 8:58:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_t_schenck at hotmail.com_ (mailto:t_schenck at hotmail.com)  writes:

Hi Peter -- Thanks for the input! Actually I am inclined  toward fast 
turnaround since I am rebuilding everything, finances,  credit score etc. after 
the collapse of my homebuilding business,  divorce etc. boohoo    With a 
daughter going off to college this fall, I have to be  particularly imaginative 
and cash-generation/conservation  oriented....

I realize "nothing down" is a chimera, but I  am not shy about raising 
money privately as you suggest. It's either  REO departments or loss mitigation 
officers that I foresee  approaching...they, the banks, probably won't 
finance me (unless  someone on this wonderful list has an utterly innovative way 
of  talking a bank into letting me walk out the door with a property which  
I can then try to sell rapidissimo with the 5-Day system). So my rough  plan 
is to raise some cash privately offering 8 to 10% and possibly an  equity 
kicker, and make the banks offers until I get a property  cheap enough that a 
5-Day round robin auction has a solid probability  of yielding more than 
I've paid the bank. 

The fallback  is stay in the deal...If I've misjudged current market price 
and can't  get a bid right away higher than what I paid the bank, then I 
will  rent/lease option the property and my private investor (who will have  
been forewarned of a possible 3 to 5 year commitment) and I will  hang in 
there.

Am I crazy or missing anything obvious?  


Best  regards, 

Tony Schenck




 
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From: _PJ323JP at aol.com_ (mailto:PJ323JP at aol.com) 
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:25:02  -0400
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) 
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Greetings Tony,
    Have you considered offering a private  mortgage?  It would seem like 
an excellent strategy for those,  like you, who don't need to cash out right 
away.  The number  of buyers for your home and the selling price should both 
increase  substantially in the current credit crunch.  
    When I bought my first property, a  building lot, my credit was not 
established but the owner was  willing to do a private mortgage...at a higher 
than standard interest  rate of course.  I was happy with the deal as was the 
 owner.   And I paid it off early too.
    I have only that one experience to relate,  from forty years ago, so I 
don't know what's possible now, legally or  otherwise.  
 
Peter
    
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 1:30:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
_t_schenck at hotmail.com_ (mailto:t_schenck at hotmail.com)  writes:

Thank Janet.
What is your market? The book says there  is no seasonality but isn't 
Thanksgiving through January a tough  time to sell a house? That sounds like that 
was your experience  recently. Or was it an extraordinarily bad market? I 
absolutely do  not want to hold anything longer than the time it takes to 
hold the  5-Day and close. Alternatively, if the 5Day fails to produce an  
adequate bid, I have thought that a fall-back could be to rent out  the house 
for a while or even enter into a lease-purchase agreement  with a buyer that 
has to work on his/her credit score, can't put  much more down than 5%, etc.
Selling a house with a renter in it  can present its own challenges...

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) 
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010  14:00:21 -0400
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) 
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Tony,
 
In my market, the banks are not so willing to negotiate on  short sale type 
properties, but you can still pick up foreclosures  at decent prices.  They 
will take cash from a mortgage if you  want to go that route.  Myself, I'm 
a cash kind of gal.   And every local investor tells me I'm crazy to tie up 
as much as  half a mill at a time.  But, I'll tell you what.   Going through 
what we all just went through, it was a complete  blessing.  The housing 
market here was dead over the winter,  but values held.  So, all I did was pay 
the taxes, insurance  and utilities on three houses I held through the 
winter.   They are gone now, and I'm picking up some nice lots going for  
bargain prices right now.  Banks are still bailing on  those.
 
Good luck in whatever you choose!
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:54:07 A.M. Central Daylight  Time, 
_t_schenck at hotmail.com_ (mailto:t_schenck at hotmail.com)  writes:

Janet -- it would just seem to be a good way to  ditribute properties 
acquired through hard-nosed negotiations with  bank REO departments. 

The question kind of answers  itself. As I just emailed Bill, I am going to 
experiment on a  friend's house (not in foreclosure) to get comfortable 
with the  process of conducting a 5-Day sale. If that goes well, then I have  
in mind sitting down with a local bank on a couple of properties  which they 
have been unable to sell for quite a while. There would  be an element of 
speculation...unless there exists a way of  optioning the property or tieing 
it up somehow...I don't know of a  bank ever having gone for that. As far as 
I know it's cash or  nothing.

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) 
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010  12:15:41 -0400
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) 
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Me.  What you want to know?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2010 9:04:53 A.M. Central Daylight  Time, 
_t_schenck at hotmail.com_ (mailto:t_schenck at hotmail.com)  writes:

Gee, I missed that one. I just love how 200 grand is  considered "high 
income." It's what a couple of very nice  automobiles cost, for heaven sake. 

Janet -- Has  anyone ever employed the 5-Day system to sell houses 
purchased  from bank REO departments?

Best regards, 

Tony  Schenck




 
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From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) 
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010  16:21:17 -0400
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) 
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: article on sales tax

Nice to know!
 
Thank you,
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2010 2:39:59 P.M. Central Daylight  Time, 
_m_lavering at yahoo.com_ (mailto:m_lavering at yahoo.com)  writes:

I just "googled" this question and according to Fact _check.org_ 
(http://check.org/) .  The tax only kicks in on  profits, and only for high income 
individuals ($200,000+) for  income and second home properties, and for profits 
over and  above the primary resident exclusion, $250k for individuals  and 
$500k for married filing jointly.

Sent from my  iPhone

On May 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Jill Greenberg <_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >  wrote:





Does anyone know anything about this new tax - part of  the health reform 
bill - 3.8% tax every time you sell a  house??
 
Tony


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_malibulearning at yahoo.com_ (mailto:malibulearning at yahoo.com) >
Date:  Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Subject: article on sales  tax
To: Jill Greenberg < (mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) 
_roxanneinvestments at gmail.com_ (mailto:roxanneinvestments at gmail.com) >



 
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From peteskram at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 10:32:27 2010
From: peteskram at yahoo.com (Pete Skram)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 07:32:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Thanks! Help/Advice Please!!
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Thank you both for your help and advice!? I appreciate it.? I think my gut is right - so I'm glad to hear that each market is the different and since I've been an avid student of the real estate market for two years - I think I have a good pulse of what's going on.
?
I agree with the point about the busy street helping us get traffic - we've had many a showing over the past years - but it's the reason no one has pulled the trigger.? I'm sure EVERYONE in our neighborhood or who works in our area knows our house is on the market - and I'm sure will get lots of call - just out of curiousity - our house is the picture perfect 3 story - that everyone is a little nosy about (not to be conceited but it's happened time and time again) - so I'm not worried about gaining interest - I'm more concerned about those 3 "real" buyers being part of the?mix.
?
When you do flyers - do you end up with neighbor who are mad b/c they don't "get" that we won't be driving down prices?? I would think they would assume we're foreclosing or something...
?
We were going to try to pull off next week - but we want to make our house as perfect as possible.? (After 2 years on the market - everything needs spruced up again for the millionth time.)? So I think we're shooting for June 12th, if my husband can work out his travel schedule.? Our ideal was the following weekend?- but I thought Father's Day may be a deterrent. 
?
Thanks again!? Sorry if you already responded Janet - I think my initial emails weren't coming through properly - but all seems to be working now!
?
?
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?

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Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Help/Advice Please!!
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 12:45 AM


Dear Cheryl,

Please stick to your gut instincts. Don't discount the fact that living on a busy street will work to your disadvantage. It might actually be of more benefit than you realize as you'll get tons of advertising exposure due to the heavy volume of traffic that passes by your home each day. 

My first residence sounds quite similar to yours -- full of 150+ years of historic charm, a total beauty of a home inside and out that I lovingly and painstakingly renovated, and within easy walking distance to the lovely downtown area filled with lots of shops and restaurants. However, it was located on a busy intersection and I thought it would be a major pain to sell due to the location.

I listed my home with a Realtor (this was about 15 years ago, long before I'd ever knew anything about the 5-Day method) and the heavy traffic that passed by the property each day actually worked to my advantage when it came to advertising. The Realtor's sign went up on a Thursday evening, I had a multitude of showings over the weekend, and by Tuesday afternoon I had a signed contract in hand that was my full asking price!

Janet is right (and she's always full of sage advice to seriously consider -- kind of like the antiquated "when E.F. Hutton talks, you'd better listen" commercials) in that each area is different when it comes to advertising response. In the past, I've had great luck with Craigslist but very little response from newspaper ads. When it comes to my area, I wholeheartedly agree with Janet that handwritten signs and flyers reign omnipotent in generating the best and most productive leads. 

If you're not on a desperate time crunch to sell your home, I'd steer away from listing on the MLS.... at least on your first (and hopefully last) attempt with a 5-Day Sale. So get those signs and flyers out, spread the word in the neighborhood (your best and cheapest form of advertising), and keep us posted with your progress. 

Best of luck with your upcoming sale. We're all pulling for you!



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Cheryl,
?
Gosh, I think I responded to this.? It's worth a try.? I don't think you need THAT many signs.? I usually do 20.? I hand write the ad in black marker on a plastic white sign.? Easy to read.? There is definitely more response if you hand write them.? I didn't have the experience personally, but another seller here did.? Commercial signs mean realtors, auction houses, same old same old.? Hand written signs are for people like you and I.? Little guys trying to get the word out like a yard sale.? Your house sounds wonderful.? It is too bad it's on a busy street.? As an investor, I stay away from those.? Newspaper gets me maybe one response.? Craig's nothing, but it may work fabulously in your area.? Just tons of signs all over the place where there is activity, and some had great success with choose your neighbor flyers they handed out during a pre-move yard sale.
?
There may be someone in your geographic area with even better ideas!
?
Wishing you the Greatest of luck!
?
Janet
?




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We're getting ready to do a sale in June.? 
?
On our last house (five years ago) - I put 8 signs up in the neighborhood on Friday night (the newspaper ad got screwed up) and I literally sold our house on Sunday.? (No auction or anything...)? Obviously, that was a very different time in the market and also a different price point.
?
Our house now is?almost 100 years old and?is on a?boulevard in a quaint part of Kansas City, MO (walk to the grocery store, shops, etc).? We've been on the market for almost 2 years - houses have held their values pretty well during the bouncy real estate market.? People love the house - but don't like the busy street.? When we bought it there were hardly any 4/5 bed?house around.? So?our 5 bed/3 bath house at this price point was?a great deal -?now there are a lot of 4 bed houses that are competing?and on quiet streets and all over the board price-wise.? This plan seems like the perfect mix for us - people love the house and a little healthy competition should hopefully push someone over the hump. 
?
With that said - I'm struggline with advertising.? I think the Blvd. and neighborhood will definitely help us in advertising and are probably the best strategy in our market.? I was planning on doing a ton of signs (found an on-line deal for 100 signs, Craig's list and some home selling websites)? .
?
My friend who recommended this book also got a MLS listing last year.? Does anyone think that this is necessary?? It just doesn't seem worth it to spent $200-300 - but maybe I'm wrong.? And if for some odd reason it doesn't work for us -?we're done being on the market - I need a break (3 kids under 5 and a husband who travels) - so it's not like the MLS is going?to help as FSBO over the long haul.? I'm also guessing the newspaper isn't worth it - but would love to hear input from anyone that has done this recently. 
?
Any thoughts/advice?? Thanks! 
?
Cheryl 


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From rcutcher at austin.rr.com  Tue May 25 12:35:05 2010
From: rcutcher at austin.rr.com (RC Cutcher)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:35:05 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Help/Advice Please!!
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Here are a couple of ways I have handled busy intersection ADs.

(1)  Real busy intersection...Really I'm not joking.
(2)  Feel like you are in the middle of historic downtown excitement!
(3) Historic home on busy street needs a warm, loving family. 

It is almost always best to take away the objection before a person sees a house.  Have a blessed day!


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  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:03 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Help/Advice Please!!


        We're getting ready to do a sale in June.  

        On our last house (five years ago) - I put 8 signs up in the neighborhood on Friday night (the newspaper ad got screwed up) and I literally sold our house on Sunday.  (No auction or anything...)  Obviously, that was a very different time in the market and also a different price point.

        Our house now is almost 100 years old and is on a boulevard in a quaint part of Kansas City, MO (walk to the grocery store, shops, etc).  We've been on the market for almost 2 years - houses have held their values pretty well during the bouncy real estate market.  People love the house - but don't like the busy street.  When we bought it there were hardly any 4/5 bed house around.  So our 5 bed/3 bath house at this price point was a great deal - now there are a lot of 4 bed houses that are competing and on quiet streets and all over the board price-wise.  This plan seems like the perfect mix for us - people love the house and a little healthy competition should hopefully push someone over the hump. 

        With that said - I'm struggline with advertising.  I think the Blvd. and neighborhood will definitely help us in advertising and are probably the best strategy in our market.  I was planning on doing a ton of signs (found an on-line deal for 100 signs, Craig's list and some home selling websites)  .

        My friend who recommended this book also got a MLS listing last year.  Does anyone think that this is necessary?  It just doesn't seem worth it to spent $200-300 - but maybe I'm wrong.  And if for some odd reason it doesn't work for us - we're done being on the market - I need a break (3 kids under 5 and a husband who travels) - so it's not like the MLS is going to help as FSBO over the long haul.  I'm also guessing the newspaper isn't worth it - but would love to hear input from anyone that has done this recently. 

        Any thoughts/advice?  Thanks! 

        Cheryl 


       

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From peteskram at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 12:40:52 2010
From: peteskram at yahoo.com (Pete Skram)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 09:40:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Help/Advice Please!!
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Thanks RC - great idea.? I don't think the first two apply - but the 3rd one is perfect! 


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From: RC Cutcher <rcutcher at austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Help/Advice Please!!
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 11:35 AM





Here are?a couple of ways I have handled busy intersection ADs.
?
(1)? Real busy intersection...Really I'm not joking.
(2)? Feel like you are in the middle of historic?downtown excitement!
(3)?Historic home on busy street needs a warm, loving family.?
?
It is almost always best to take away the objection before a person sees a house.? Have a blessed day!
?
?
RC Cutcher
Realtor, ABR
512-848-4449
Texas Landmark Properties
11109 Dodge Cattle Drive
Austin, Tx 78717

www.RCshortsale.com

RC_Cutcher at Helloworld.com

The Short Sale/Foreclosure Workshop--MCE--3HRS
Course No. 03-00-100-7436 ?TREC Provider No. 0623

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Pete Skram 
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:03 PM
Subject: [5-DayForum] Help/Advice Please!!






We're getting ready to do a sale in June.? 
?
On our last house (five years ago) - I put 8 signs up in the neighborhood on Friday night (the newspaper ad got screwed up) and I literally sold our house on Sunday.? (No auction or anything...)? Obviously, that was a very different time in the market and also a different price point.
?
Our house now is?almost 100 years old and?is on a?boulevard in a quaint part of Kansas City, MO (walk to the grocery store, shops, etc).? We've been on the market for almost 2 years - houses have held their values pretty well during the bouncy real estate market.? People love the house - but don't like the busy street.? When we bought it there were hardly any 4/5 bed?house around.? So?our 5 bed/3 bath house at this price point was?a great deal -?now there are a lot of 4 bed houses that are competing?and on quiet streets and all over the board price-wise.? This plan seems like the perfect mix for us - people love the house and a little healthy competition should hopefully push someone over the hump. 
?
With that said - I'm struggline with advertising.? I think the Blvd. and neighborhood will definitely help us in advertising and are probably the best strategy in our market.? I was planning on doing a ton of signs (found an on-line deal for 100 signs, Craig's list and some home selling websites)? .
?
My friend who recommended this book also got a MLS listing last year.? Does anyone think that this is necessary?? It just doesn't seem worth it to spent $200-300 - but maybe I'm wrong.? And if for some odd reason it doesn't work for us -?we're done being on the market - I need a break (3 kids under 5 and a husband who travels) - so it's not like the MLS is going?to help as FSBO over the long haul.? I'm also guessing the newspaper isn't worth it - but would love to hear input from anyone that has done this recently. 
?
Any thoughts/advice?? Thanks! 
?
Cheryl 


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From t_schenck at hotmail.com  Fri May 28 14:37:02 2010
From: t_schenck at hotmail.com (Tony Schenck)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:37:02 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Happy Memorial Day!
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Janet, all -- Hope everyone has a great Memorial Day! (Guess it's been quiet on this forum because of its approach)

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri May 28 23:24:23 2010
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Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 23:24:23 EDT
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Tony,
 
Back at ya!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/28/2010 1:37:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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From tomhoffman at live.com  Sat May 29 19:04:00 2010
From: tomhoffman at live.com (Tom Hoffman)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 17:04:00 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] Happy Memorial Day!
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The weekend after the holiday will be big. I have a sale June 5 & 6 in Thornton Colorado (northern suburb of Denver). Sweet 3 bedroom ranch. It will be fun. Hope everyone has a safe Memorial day. My nephew got his orders for Afganistan. We all are so blessed to have the best armed forces in the world.

Tom Hoffman-Broker/Owner
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 23:24:23 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Happy Memorial Day!


Tony,
 
Back at ya!
 
Janet
 

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From nanlill at aol.com  Sat May 29 19:09:07 2010
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Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 23:09:07 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] Happy Memorial Day!
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Happy Memorial Day! 
Special thanks to WWII veterans, and my recently passed father Joseph A. Oliviero. 

Nancy
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sat May 29 20:15:39 2010
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 20:15:39 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Happy Memorial Day!
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Best wishes for your nephew.  I will hold him in my heart.  At  least we 
are headed to the right place.  I will hold a vision of him  finding something 
to smile about each and every day and that he comes home  healthy and hale.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 5/29/2010 6:04:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tomhoffman at live.com writes:

The  weekend after the holiday will be big. I have a sale June 5 & 6 in  
Thornton Colorado (northern suburb of Denver). Sweet 3 bedroom ranch. It will  
be fun. Hope everyone has a safe Memorial day. My nephew got his orders for 
 Afganistan. We all are so blessed to have the best armed forces in the  
world.

Tom Hoffman-Broker/Owner
Top  Priority Realty, LLC
720-540-7800
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Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 23:24:23 -0400
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Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  Happy Memorial Day!

Tony,
 
Back at ya!
 
Janet
 
 
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From rpribilski at aol.com  Wed May 26 17:32:16 2010
From: rpribilski at aol.com (rpribilski at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:32:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] confirm
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From carolamyd at hotmail.com  Fri May 28 21:32:22 2010
From: carolamyd at hotmail.com (carol dion)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 21:32:22 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] advertising in Westchester, NY and inspection
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We are wondering what the best way to advertise our sale in Westchester, NY? The NY Times is very expensive but thought so many people read it around here that it might make sense. I know Bill Effros lives in our area and was hoping he might have some advice. Also, we are in a zip code of Mt Kisco but pay Chappaqua taxes so the schools are Chappaqua and we know that that is a huge seller to young families around here because Chappaqua schools are top in the country (or so I've heard). Should we note that in our ad? Do people send their ad through emails? What about home inspection? Does everyone that does a 5 day sale do an inspection first? It feels like we are doing a lot of sprucing up that is costing a lot of money but with so many houses on the market we feel like we need to stand out a little. Does that make sense? Does anyone start advertising as a FSBO first before they do a 5 day sale to get a feel for the interest in their home?Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Carol and Dave 		 	   		  
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From neterch at gmail.com  Sun May 23 17:51:59 2010
From: neterch at gmail.com (Lin He)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 14:51:59 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale in Orange County, CA
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I am new to this. Has anyone done it in Orange County, CA? How did it go?
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From neterch at gmail.com  Sun May 23 18:10:13 2010
From: neterch at gmail.com (Lin He)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 15:10:13 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale in Orange County, CA
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I am new to this. Has anyone done it in Orange County, CA? How did it go?
Thanks Lin
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From theregisterfiles at yahoo.com  Sat May 29 13:13:43 2010
From: theregisterfiles at yahoo.com (james register)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 10:13:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] the broker fees
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Hello,
in the book you teach net to the seller, the buyer must pay the broker fee seprately. Is this standard? Why not just up the reserve by 6%?


From house4sale.meadowhill at yahoo.com  Mon May 31 10:45:13 2010
From: house4sale.meadowhill at yahoo.com (Harold Andrew)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 07:45:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Getting ready but have questions
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Hello,
?We are getting ready for our first sale (in about 2 weeks). We have a couple of questions though. We have a realtor (That is acting as a consultant)?that has used this system before. We also have?our home listed on our local MLS.?OK that being said our question is?this. 
?We know how to change the listing in our local MLS to Open House and drop the price down by half. How do we keep from giving any realtor that brings in clients their 3% as normal? 
?Well I hope someone has a great answer for our question and wish us luck to sell our Spring, Texas home (Houston) in a couple of weeks... 
Harold & Diane
P.S. If any one has other suggestions please feel free to e-mail them or call us at 281-350-0250
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