From brandondonovan at mac.com  Wed Sep  2 12:13:00 2009
From: brandondonovan at mac.com (Brandon Donovan)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:13:00 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Looking for the best places to advertise!!
Message-ID: <62560F6B-3F81-48BA-829F-6C3E3B49E405@mac.com>

I am going to do a 5 day sale in Austin, TX.  I was wondering if  
anyone has done one here, and where are the best places to advertise  
here.

Thank you,

Brandon

From gantonj at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  4 11:35:35 2009
From: gantonj at yahoo.com (Julie Ganton)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 08:35:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] How to Unsubscribe
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Bill,

Please take me off the 5 day forum.  I have tried it the way you mention in this email, and it does not work.  Thank you very much.

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From Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com  Sun Sep  6 11:11:56 2009
From: Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com (Andy Klee)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 09:11:56 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
Message-ID: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGKEJNGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>

We've decided to build a website for our 5 day sale.  We're several hours
away from many potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and Denver.
We'll be running newspaper and Craig's List ads in those areas the week of
the sale (last week of September) and felt that potential bidders would want
to see pictures and know more about the home before driving 3-5 hours.  The
ads will have a link to the website as well as our phone numbers.

Local ads will also be run, but without the link to the website.

Please feel free to take a look and give me feedback.

It isn't quite finished, but 90% of the content is there.

http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp


Andy
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From tomwilson64 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  6 13:35:18 2009
From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 12:35:18 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
In-Reply-To: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGKEJNGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>
References: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGKEJNGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>
Message-ID: <006e01ca2f18$67605ed0$36211c70$@com>

Be careful that folks can't do a domain lookup on your website address and
find your home address.  That could cause you problems.

 

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.co
m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com] On Behalf Of Andy Klee
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 10:12 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale

 

We've decided to build a website for our 5 day sale.  We're several hours
away from many potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and Denver.
We'll be running newspaper and Craig's List ads in those areas the week of
the sale (last week of September) and felt that potential bidders would want
to see pictures and know more about the home before driving 3-5 hours.  The
ads will have a link to the website as well as our phone numbers.

 

Local ads will also be run, but without the link to the website.

 

Please feel free to take a look and give me feedback.

 

It isn't quite finished, but 90% of the content is there.

 

http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp

 

 

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From tomwilson64 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  6 13:35:18 2009
From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 12:35:18 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
In-Reply-To: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGKEJNGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>
References: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGKEJNGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>
Message-ID: <006e01ca2f18$67605ed0$36211c70$@com>

Be careful that folks can't do a domain lookup on your website address and
find your home address.  That could cause you problems.

 

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.co
m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com] On Behalf Of Andy Klee
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 10:12 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale

 

We've decided to build a website for our 5 day sale.  We're several hours
away from many potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and Denver.
We'll be running newspaper and Craig's List ads in those areas the week of
the sale (last week of September) and felt that potential bidders would want
to see pictures and know more about the home before driving 3-5 hours.  The
ads will have a link to the website as well as our phone numbers.

 

Local ads will also be run, but without the link to the website.

 

Please feel free to take a look and give me feedback.

 

It isn't quite finished, but 90% of the content is there.

 

http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp

 

 

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sun Sep  6 15:04:05 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 15:04:05 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
Message-ID: <bbc.4a716220.37d561a5@aol.com>

Very nice web site which you put a lot of work in.  Now for the  
pictures....  get rid of all of the stuff.  Your outside pictures  should be closer.  
Lose the grill, chairs, etc.  I know it's hard to  find places for things, 
but the stuff should go.  Same goes for the inside  with the "stuff".  I 
would wouldn't put much into redecorating.....  however, the painted blue 
ceiling is so way out of style that you might want to  give it a spray of white.  
It should not cost much for you to do it, or  even a pro.  Not much paint 
and just a flat area with minimal taping.   Gook luck!  And keep us posted on 
your progress!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 9/6/2009 10:12:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Andy.Klee at erptips.com writes:

We've decided to  build a website for our 5 day sale.  We're several hours 
away from many  potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and Denver.  
We'll be running  newspaper and Craig's List ads in those areas the week of the 
sale (last week  of September) and felt that potential bidders would want 
to see pictures and  know more about the home before driving 3-5 hours.  The 
ads will have a  link to the website as well as our phone numbers.
 
Local ads will  also be run, but without the link to the website.
 
Please feel free  to take a look and give me feedback.
 
It isn't quite  finished, but 90% of the content is there.
 
_http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp_ 
(http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp) 
 
 
 
Andy  






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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Sun Sep  6 22:40:10 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 22:40:10 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
References: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGKEJNGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>
Message-ID: <1A4FBC7F898B484490C659D6AB56752E@rosemarifv6onv>

Hi Andy - sounds like a great spot to live! And you describe it well.
I have a couple of comments. 
1.Where I live (N.C.) it is illegal to hold an auction if you are not an auctioneer. Are you sure that this is not the same in CO?  I am always very careful not to use that word.
By describing your money requirements you might just as well have said that the price is $500,000. You have pretty well eliminated everything that makes it a 5-day sale. I think it is clear that you put your price out there and promise to sell to the highest bidder on Sunday night if you are going to call it a 5-day sale. You have taken away all the bait to get people there.  I think there is way too much information on the website. If someone is interested in a gorgeous spot like this they will come out to see, and the rest is clutter. 
I hope you get your price, but if you leave "reserve Price" and hints of comps, you are losing the whole idea of the 5-day sale. It may sell for what you want, it's just something else. Keep us informed!
Rosemarie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy Klee 
  To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:11 AM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale


  We've decided to build a website for our 5 day sale.  We're several hours away from many potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and Denver.  We'll be running newspaper and Craig's List ads in those areas the week of the sale (last week of September) and felt that potential bidders would want to see pictures and know more about the home before driving 3-5 hours.  The ads will have a link to the website as well as our phone numbers.

  Local ads will also be run, but without the link to the website.

  Please feel free to take a look and give me feedback.

  It isn't quite finished, but 90% of the content is there.

  http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp


  Andy 



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From Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com  Mon Sep  7 01:17:00 2009
From: Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com (Andy Klee)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 23:17:00 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
In-Reply-To: <1A4FBC7F898B484490C659D6AB56752E@rosemarifv6onv>
Message-ID: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGMEKIGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>


Good comments, Rosemarie.  I appreciate you taking the time to give
feedback.

I've been meaning to contact an attorney (left a message for one last week),
and you are right, I need to be sure that I can legally call this an
auction.  If not, I'll come back to the group and ask what you all have done
in those circumstances.

I take it you are referring to this paragraph about pricing:  "The starting
bid for our home is $199,500.  We hope to get more than that, of course.
And there is an undisclosed reserve price.   You'll probably notice that
there are comparable properties to ours that are listed around $500,000."

I didn't mean to imply that I was looking for $500,000.  In fact, every high
end property around here is overpriced by about $100,000.  That's what a
certified appraiser told me as part of his appraisal report on my property.
But I can see where someone would think that's what I meant, so I'll remove
that sentence.

I'm not comfortable unless I tell people there is an undisclosed reserve
price.  It seems a bit dodgy to me to only say that nothing is final until
both the buyer and seller agree on and sign a contract.  That's perhaps
another way of saying the same thing, but why not be a little more open
about it?  On the other hand, you'll note that this statement only appears
once and is tucked away on this page, and isn't on the home page.

The reason for the information on the website is to entice people to drive
6-10 hours roundtrip to see the place.  We live in one of the poorest
counties in the state, and most sellers of upper end homes here haven't had
a single showing this year.  We finally had one after we followed the
appraiser's advice about lowering the price.

So, assuming that it's legal for me to call it an auction (or that I change
the website to comply with Colorado law), and if I remove the sentence about
comps, is it a 5 day sale?  I think so, but further input is welcome.

Andy
http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp

P.S. By the way, does anyone know how long it takes a real estate listing to
disappear from the internet?  Our contract wih the listing agent ends 2
weeks before the sale, and I'd prefer it if someone couldn't look up the
listing price by keying the address into Google. The realtor subscribes to a
service which syndicates the listing to various websites such as Yahoo,
Zillow, etc.


  -----Original Message-----
  From:
5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.co
m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com]On Behalf Of rosemarie-fred
  Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:40 PM
  To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale


  Hi Andy - sounds like a great spot to live! And you describe it well.
  I have a couple of comments.
  1.Where I live (N.C.) it is illegal to hold an auction if you are not an
auctioneer. Are you sure that this is not the same in CO?  I am always very
careful not to use that word.
  By describing your money requirements you might just as well have said
that the price is $500,000. You have pretty well eliminated everything that
makes it a 5-day sale. I think it is clear that you put your price out there
and promise to sell to the highest bidder on Sunday night if you are going
to call it a 5-day sale. You have taken away all the bait to get people
there.  I think there is way too much information on the website. If someone
is interested in a gorgeous spot like this they will come out to see, and
the rest is clutter.
  I hope you get your price, but if you leave "reserve Price" and hints of
comps, you are losing the whole idea of the 5-day sale. It may sell for what
you want, it's just something else. Keep us informed!
  Rosemarie
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Andy Klee
    To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
    Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:11 AM
    Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale


    We've decided to build a website for our 5 day sale.  We're several
hours away from many potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and Denver.
We'll be running newspaper and Craig's List ads in those areas the week of
the sale (last week of September) and felt that potential bidders would want
to see pictures and know more about the home before driving 3-5 hours.  The
ads will have a link to the website as well as our phone numbers.

    Local ads will also be run, but without the link to the website.

    Please feel free to take a look and give me feedback.

    It isn't quite finished, but 90% of the content is there.

    http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp


    Andy



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From hhsamcox at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  7 06:36:07 2009
From: hhsamcox at yahoo.com (Sam Cox)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 03:36:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
In-Reply-To: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGMEKIGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>
Message-ID: <501281.18881.qm@web50511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hello Andy,

I don't know how things work in your neck of the woods but, 
'nothing is final until the seller and bidder agree on and sign a contract' seems pretty straightforward to me. I also recall reading that you don't advertise the address until the night before the sale to those who've contacted you. Your marketing gets them to the general area but you don't reveal it in advance or you lose that short time frame to act energy.

Sam

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Andy Klee <Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com> wrote:

> From: Andy Klee <Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com>
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
> To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 1:17 AM
> 
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
> ?
> Good 
> comments, Rosemarie.? I appreciate you taking the time
> to give 
> feedback.
> ?
> I've 
> been meaning to contact an attorney (left a message for one
> last week), and you 
> are right, I need to be sure that I can?legally call
> this an auction.? 
> If not, I'll come back to the group and ask
> what?you all have done in those 
> circumstances.? 
> ?
> I take 
> it you are referring to this paragraph about pricing:?
> "The starting bid for our home is
> $199,500.? We hope to get 
> more than that, of course.? And there is an
> undisclosed reserve 
> price.?? You'll probably notice that there
> are comparable properties 
> to ours that are listed around
> $500,000."
> ?
> I 
> didn't mean to imply that I was looking for
> $500,000.? In fact, every high 
> end property around here is overpriced by about
> $100,000.? That's what a 
> certified appraiser told me as part of his appraisal report
> on my 
> property.? But I can see where someone would think
> that's what I meant, so 
> I'll remove that sentence.? 
> ?
> I'm 
> not comfortable unless I tell people there is an
> undisclosed reserve 
> price.? It seems a bit dodgy to me to only say that
> nothing is final until 
> both the buyer and seller agree on and sign a
> contract.? That's perhaps 
> another way of saying the same thing, but why not be a
> little more open about 
> it?? On the other hand, you'll note that this
> statement only appears once 
> and is tucked away on this page, and isn't on the home
> page. 
> 
> ?
> The 
> reason for the information on the website is to entice
> people to drive 6-10 
> hours roundtrip to see the place.? We live in one of
> the poorest counties 
> in the state, and most sellers of upper end homes here
> haven't had a single 
> showing this year.? We finally had one after we
> followed the appraiser's 
> advice about lowering the price.? 
> ?
> So, 
> assuming that it's legal for me to call?it an
> auction (or that I change the 
> website to comply with Colorado law), and if I remove the
> sentence about comps, 
> is it a 5 day sale?? I think so, but further input is 
> welcome.
> ?
> Andy
> 
> http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp
> ?
> P.S. By the way, 
> does anyone know how long it takes a real estate listing to
> disappear from the 
> internet?? Our contract wih the listing agent ends 2
> weeks before the sale, 
> and I'd prefer it if someone couldn't look up the
> listing price by keying the 
> address into Google. The realtor subscribes to a service
> which syndicates the 
> listing to various websites such as Yahoo, Zillow,
> etc.? 
> 
> ?
> ?
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  
> 5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> 
>  
> [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]On
> 
>   Behalf Of rosemarie-fred
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:40 
>   PM
> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
> Subject: Re: 
>   [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
> 
> 
>   Hi Andy - sounds like a
> great spot to live! And 
>   you describe it well.
>   I have a couple of
> comments.?
>   1.Where I live (N.C.) it
> is illegal to hold an 
>   auction if you are not an auctioneer. Are you sure that
> this is not the same 
>   in CO? ?I am always
> very careful not to 
>   use that word.
>   By describing your money
> requirements you might 
>   just as well have said that the price is $500,000. You
> have pretty well 
>   eliminated everything that makes it a 5-day sale. I think
> it is clear that you 
>   put your price out there and promise to sell to the
> highest bidder on Sunday 
>   night if you are going to call it a 5-day sale.?You
> have taken away all 
>   the bait to get people there. ?I think there is way
> too much information 
>   on the website. If someone is interested in a gorgeous
> spot like this they 
>   will come out to see, and the rest is clutter.
> 
>   I hope you get your price,
> but if you leave 
>   "reserve Price" and hints of comps, you are
> losing the whole idea of the 5-day 
>   sale. It may sell for what you want, it's just
> something else. Keep us 
>   informed!
>   Rosemarie
>   
>     ----- Original Message
> ----- 
>     From: 
>     Andy 
>     Klee 
>     To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> 
>     
>     Sent: Sunday,
> September 06, 2009 11:11 
>     AM
>     Subject:
> [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day 
>     sale
>     
> 
>     We've decided to 
>     build a website for our 5 day sale.? We're
> several hours away from many 
>     potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and
> Denver.? We'll be 
>     running newspaper and Craig's List ads in those
> areas the week of the sale 
>     (last week of September) and felt that potential
> bidders would want to see 
>     pictures and know more about the home before driving
> 3-5 hours.? The 
>     ads will have a link to the website as well as our
> phone 
>     numbers.
>     ?
>     Local ads will 
>     also be run, but without the link to the
> website.
>     ?
>     Please feel free 
>     to take a look and give me
> feedback.
>     ?
>     It isn't quite 
>     finished, but 90% of the content is
> there.
>     ?
>     http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp
>     ?
>     ?
>     
>     Andy 
>     
>     ?
>     
>     
> 
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From doug at themonticellogroup.com  Sun Sep  6 13:34:54 2009
From: doug at themonticellogroup.com (Doug Burkhardt)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:34:54 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Get to the archives
Message-ID: <0MKpCa-1MkLe924m6-000DC8@mrelay.perfora.net>

 

What am I missing?  I cannot determine how to get to prior months archives.
Sept. is the only thing I can see.

 

 I would like to read the Q&A as I prepare for my own sale next weekend.

 

Thanks

Regards,

Doug

Douglas Burkhardt

The Monticello Group

Annapolis, Maryland 21401

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From klarnsten at cox.net  Sat Sep  5 03:08:38 2009
From: klarnsten at cox.net (Kerry Arnsten)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 00:08:38 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] out of state sale - need to test market prior to
	travel!?
Message-ID: <A4B778A5062E466D9259A763BEEA7770@Kerry>

Hi Bill Effros, hi everyone  ? I am new to this forum, but have read through
and seen some happy stories and some less successful.  I have been advised
to use this method in no uncertain terms by my highly respected mentor, so I
am really considering it.  It makes so much sense!!  However, I have some
concerns because my situation seems to be different in four ways from those
I?ve seen on the forum:

1)      it is an investment property (currently vacant)

2)      it is located in St. Louis and I live in San Diego

3)      price point is under 50k

4)      not sure of safety of single little gal in lower-end neighborhood
conducting a sale such as this on my own ? would have to bring fianc??
(=add?l airfare, time away from his business) OR hire someone locally to
help me? (add?l overhead)

 

The way I see it, my choices are:

1)      to fly there on an upcoming Wed or Thu and do the 5 day sale on
faith (sell by Sunday!) using a laptop from my hotel room ? this trip would
cost me at least $1200 for hotel, car and airfare, and more like $1800 if my
fiance accompanied me or I hired someone to help

2)      I don?t travel there, but instead pay someone locally to run the
sale as I would (only, as Bill has stated, not as well as I would run it!)
=additional cost

3)      I test the market and my expected price by running a test Craigslist
ad two weeks before I actually plan to run the sale, then gauge the number
of responses and pull the ad ? as I would need some lead time in order to
book travel after establishing that there were enough callers ? I simply
tell them the open house/auction has been postponed and notify them
personally once new ad is underway and a certain date established?

4)      Is all this worth it at the price point of only 40-50k, and the
broker commissions saved if that amounts to only a few hundred dollars?  And
my lost time from other entrepreneurial endeavors? And capital outlay, and
fiance?s lost time in his business?

 

I am in the property for 46k, and so that is my desired amount. Wouldn?t it
be grand if I got even more? I hear some subtlety in Bill?s comments about
creating your own reality with your integrity, intent, and belief.  That
really resonates for me.  Yet I am torn about how to proceed.

Thank you so very much for any help. Your caring kindness means the world to
me!  :-)  Kerry

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From randy at rjhurwitzlaw.com  Sat Sep  5 10:12:18 2009
From: randy at rjhurwitzlaw.com (Randy Hurwitz)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 07:12:18 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] Looking for an experienced consultant in Phoenix, AZ
Message-ID: <317B614D2EFF4E9EBC665F8B60ABD7F0@RandyHurwitzPC>

Please let me know name & contact info.  Thx.

 

Randy J. Hurwitz

 

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From ryanjenny05 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  6 21:34:34 2009
From: ryanjenny05 at yahoo.com (Ryan & Jenny Meyer)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 18:34:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
In-Reply-To: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGKEJNGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>
References: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGKEJNGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>
Message-ID: <482831.77022.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

You have two different starting prices on your site. They only differ by $500 but still it should be consistent for potential buyers.

What a beautiful home! Good luck!




________________________________
From: Andy Klee <Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com>
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 10:11:56 AM
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale


We've decided to build a website for our 5 day sale.? We're several hours away from many potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and Denver.? We'll be running newspaper and Craig's List ads in those areas the week of the sale (last week of September) and felt that potential bidders would want to see pictures and know more about the home before driving 3-5 hours.? The ads will have a link to the website as well as our phone numbers.
?
Local ads will also be run, but without the link to the website.
?
Please feel free to take a look and give me feedback.
?
It isn't quite finished, but 90% of the content is there.
?
http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp
?
?
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From ryanjenny05 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  6 21:34:34 2009
From: ryanjenny05 at yahoo.com (Ryan & Jenny Meyer)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 18:34:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
In-Reply-To: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGKEJNGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>
References: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGKEJNGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>
Message-ID: <482831.77022.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

You have two different starting prices on your site. They only differ by $500 but still it should be consistent for potential buyers.

What a beautiful home! Good luck!




________________________________
From: Andy Klee <Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com>
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 10:11:56 AM
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale


We've decided to build a website for our 5 day sale.? We're several hours away from many potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and Denver.? We'll be running newspaper and Craig's List ads in those areas the week of the sale (last week of September) and felt that potential bidders would want to see pictures and know more about the home before driving 3-5 hours.? The ads will have a link to the website as well as our phone numbers.
?
Local ads will also be run, but without the link to the website.
?
Please feel free to take a look and give me feedback.
?
It isn't quite finished, but 90% of the content is there.
?
http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp
?
?
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From svuori at live.com  Sun Sep  6 16:15:28 2009
From: svuori at live.com (Scott Vuori)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:15:28 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How to Unsubscribe
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Bill - thanks for all the information...I've tried unsuccessfully to unsubscribe as well....can you take me off the list- thanks.

Regards,
 
Scott A. Vuori
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From Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com  Mon Sep  7 09:26:39 2009
From: Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com (Andy Klee)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 07:26:39 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] Get to the archives
In-Reply-To: <0MKpCa-1MkLe924m6-000DC8@mrelay.perfora.net>
Message-ID: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGKELAGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>

Try changing the month in the link that appears at the top when you look at
the September postings.
  -----Original Message-----
  From:
5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.co
m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com]On Behalf Of Doug Burkhardt
  Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:35 AM
  To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Get to the archives




  What am I missing?  I cannot determine how to get to prior months
archives. Sept. is the only thing I can see.



   I would like to read the Q&A as I prepare for my own sale next weekend.



  Thanks

  Regards,

  Doug

  Douglas Burkhardt

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  Annapolis, Maryland 21401

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From Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com  Mon Sep  7 09:26:41 2009
From: Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com (Andy Klee)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 07:26:41 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
In-Reply-To: <482831.77022.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGMELAGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>

Thanks, Ryan and Jenny.
  -----Original Message-----
  From:
5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.co
m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com]On Behalf Of Ryan & Jenny Meyer
  Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 7:35 PM
  To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days;
5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale


  You have two different starting prices on your site. They only differ by
$500 but still it should be consistent for potential buyers.

  What a beautiful home! Good luck!




----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
  From: Andy Klee <Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com>
  To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 10:11:56 AM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale


  We've decided to build a website for our 5 day sale.  We're several hours
away from many potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and Denver.
We'll be running newspaper and Craig's List ads in those areas the week of
the sale (last week of September) and felt that potential bidders would want
to see pictures and know more about the home before driving 3-5 hours.  The
ads will have a link to the website as well as our phone numbers.

  Local ads will also be run, but without the link to the website.

  Please feel free to take a look and give me feedback.

  It isn't quite finished, but 90% of the content is there.

  http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp


  Andy


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Mon Sep  7 10:54:54 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:54:54 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] out of state sale - need to test market prior to
	travel!?
Message-ID: <ccb.54e85f39.37d678be@aol.com>

Kerry,
 
For the cost of  travel, etc.  You might think about hiring a  realtor to 
hold the 5-day sale on your behalf.  At this price point, I  think it would 
be cheaper and you can get some additional traffic.  Make  sure the realtor 
knows that the full list price needs to go the MLS if you have  them 
advertise there, but you can put in the body the starting price and the  details of 
the sale.  I would skip the MLS if I were you.  I would  splash the Internet 
with your sale, maybe have the realtor do a mailing and then  have them 
hold it.  You can field the telephone calls and e-mails.
 
Great luck to you!!!!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 9/7/2009 7:13:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
klarnsten at cox.net writes:

 
Hi Bill Effros, hi everyone  ? I am  new to this forum, but have read 
through and seen some happy stories and some  less successful.  I have been 
advised to use this method in no uncertain  terms by my highly respected mentor, 
so I am really considering it.  It  makes so much sense!!  However, I have 
some concerns because my situation  seems to be different in four ways from 
those I?ve seen on the  forum: 
1)       it is an investment property (currently  vacant) 
2)       it is located in St. Louis  and I live in San  Diego 
3)       price point is under 50k 
4)       not sure of safety of single little gal in lower-end  neighborhood 
conducting a sale such as this on my own ? would have to bring  fianc?? 
(=add?l airfare, time away from his business) OR hire someone locally  to help 
me? (add?l overhead) 
The way I see it, my choices  are: 
1)       to fly there on an upcoming Wed or Thu and do the 5 day  sale on 
faith (sell by Sunday!) using a laptop from my hotel room ? this trip  would 
cost me at least $1200 for hotel, car and airfare, and more like $1800  if 
my fiance accompanied me or I hired someone to  help 
2)       I don?t travel there, but instead pay someone locally to  run the 
sale as I would (only, as Bill has stated, not as well as I would run  it!) 
=additional cost 
3)       I test the market and my expected price by running a test  
Craigslist ad two weeks before I actually plan to run the sale, then gauge the  
number of responses and pull the ad ? as I would need some lead time in order  
to book travel after establishing that there were enough callers ? I simply  
tell them the open house/auction has been postponed and notify them 
personally  once new ad is underway and a certain date  established? 
4)       Is all this worth it at the price point of only 40-50k,  and the 
broker commissions saved if that amounts to only a few hundred  dollars?  And 
my lost time from other entrepreneurial endeavors? And  capital outlay, and 
fiance?s lost time in his  business? 
I am in the property for 46k, and so  that is my desired amount. Wouldn?t 
it be grand if I got even more? I hear  some subtlety in Bill?s comments 
about creating your own reality with your  integrity, intent, and belief.  That 
really resonates for me.  Yet I  am torn about how to proceed. 
Thank you so very much for any help.  Your caring kindness means the world 
to me!  J   Kerry


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Mon Sep  7 10:59:49 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:59:49 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
Message-ID: <be2.576ea0ea.37d679e5@aol.com>

I agree with Rosemarie entirely.  Also, I showed your site to others  and 
they all think you should lose the purple carpet in the living room.   ;)
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 9/6/2009 9:43:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com writes:

Hi Andy - sounds like a great spot to live! And  you describe it well.
I have a couple of comments. 
1.Where I live (N.C.) it is illegal to hold an  auction if you are not an 
auctioneer. Are you sure that this is not the same  in CO?  I am always very 
careful not to  use that word.
By describing your money requirements you might  just as well have said 
that the price is $500,000. You have pretty well  eliminated everything that 
makes it a 5-day sale. I think it is clear that you  put your price out there 
and promise to sell to the highest bidder on Sunday  night if you are going 
to call it a 5-day sale. You have taken away all  the bait to get people 
there.  I think there is way too much information  on the website. If someone 
is interested in a gorgeous spot like this they  will come out to see, and 
the rest is clutter. 
I hope you get your price, but if you leave  "reserve Price" and hints of 
comps, you are losing the whole idea of the 5-day  sale. It may sell for what 
you want, it's just something else. Keep us  informed!
Rosemarie

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _Andy Klee_ (mailto:Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com)  
To: _5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:11  AM
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day  sale


We've decided to  build a website for our 5 day sale.  We're several hours 
away from many  potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and Denver.  
We'll be  running newspaper and Craig's List ads in those areas the week of the 
sale  (last week of September) and felt that potential bidders would want 
to see  pictures and know more about the home before driving 3-5 hours.  The  
ads will have a link to the website as well as our phone  numbers.
 
Local ads will  also be run, but without the link to the website.
 
Please feel free  to take a look and give me feedback.
 
It isn't quite  finished, but 90% of the content is there.
 
_http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp_ 
(http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp) 
 
 
 
Andy  





 
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From onefunone2205 at hotmail.com  Mon Sep  7 11:21:12 2009
From: onefunone2205 at hotmail.com (K C)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:21:12 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
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Hello all  - I'd certainly entertain some specific feedback from the moderator, and especially Bill himself on this one:

In my perspective, one thing the book does not disclose properly  -- In the down loadable sheets, it says "THE HOME WILL BE **SOLD** TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER." Two lines later it says "The home will be "OFFERED to the highest bidder." In the July posts online, it was said by a moderator that "they would never advertise in writing "sold," but instead use the word "offered..."

Last I knew this "typo?" was  otherwise note updated or changed or worse yet - it's not clarified unless you dig deep into the myriad of postings history or offer one question with little details (moderators did not seem to either understand my question(S) or simply ignored the "less important ones" to only provide partial explanation.. 
I recommend STRONGLY anyone who is planning on using this method opens up each and every blog posts and reads the details (even as painfully time consuming as it is since there is little or no  "subject" identifying the content 

Bottom line: Check the crossing of all t's and dotting of i's of your printed matter especially since this is copyright material and thus protects the moderators of the site which ultimately may leave you out on a limb depending upon your state's laws... Ideally, you check with a real estate attorney licensed in your state prior to beginning on this sort of endeavor.

I ran my 5-day sale and the real problem was that the first person who wanted to place a price decided to NOT put a price on the sheet, subsequent people felt they did not have to offer a price. so I will ADD: Make certain you modify your rules to ensure that you have all the quirks which you do not know about covered.. before you waste ink & paper and more -- 

Bottom line: complete and re-check all media and more to ensure you have it's ROBUST in every way - the best thing to do is to close your eyes and play out a scenario (best to worse cases) in your mind's eye as to what you and also generalize this with what others would do or say when they come in to your open house... well in advance of showing the house. I've enclosed the modified rules I felt I had to use on my open house (below).

ALSO: Make sure you remind people that the bids are not binding no more on the seller than on the buyer, it's just a method of finding out who will get the first crack at the home when round robin begins. 

Another thing the book misses... that I found out the HARD WAY: DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO PUT THEIR NAME DOWN ON THE BID SHEET WITHOUT A BID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do yourself a favor and make up a SEPARATE SIGN IN SHEET - those investors & speculators and those who have been to many open houses seek out a sign in sheet - THE BID LIST IS NOT A SIGN IN SHEET!!!

ALSO --> Remind bidders WHY they want to be the high bid from the open bidding (another important thing the book leaves you with very little detail) - the reason is because you want: 

a) to have the numbers up on paper prior to the round robin and teh earlier on the better - but don't push it, supposedly it will happen. This is much more difficult an area than the author gives credit to in the book and more difficult to accomplish without having done this 5-day sale before that's for sure.,. 

b) you need to be sure that people understand  that THEY WANT TO BE THE FIRST CALL!! - WHY? becuse "TWO BIDS AT ThE SAME PRICE SHALL HONOR THE FIRST BID..." (I believe this is meant to be a form of pressure? to get the prices up? on the open bid sheet, even though there is no qualifying at this stage - this will, in your minds eye, also filter out bs'ers from real buyers.

My home's 5-day sale worked out similar to I've outlined above: 

1st bidder -was an investor (who said they were on their initial phone call) who did not leave a bid and excused herself to do so since her co-investor had to come by tomorrow. Since I allowed her to  place her name on the bid list it was just enough to set the stage for the next bidder in line).

#2 was an older gent, who "needed to get off the mountain before winter and into the township or buy a Subaru." Likewise, he said, he'd be-back after he had his son and friend come over to look the place over. His son & friend came over, but he likewise did not return... and therefore had no right to be considered for a round robin call? noteworthy here, the nly likewaise wanted to offer no more than 100k - which was not happening here.

#3 one penny - interestingly, this bidder had read the 5-day sale book... (I'll refrain from comment here and let you figure out why he left only a penny). I will add that when I called him back and told him the bid was at 155 he said he was no where near that on approval and could not spend over 125k.
 
#4 (whom I spoke with as a fsbo prior to the 5-day sale) this bidder had a Realtor under contract (his reasons - the young couple "liked" her and she had showed them several houses in another area.. wOw.  So, I mentioned accordingly - the seller is not sporting any broker fees. Any deals between the buyer and a buyer's agent will be just that - between them." This bidder had told me on the phone (prior) and said he was qualified to 130k, yet left a bid of $100k - my fsbo price was (and is set at) 164,900 - in every comparable sense of the word, it's right on the money (if nothing else, this is a fair starting point in this area's open market). 

Bottom line: I wound up canceling the auction and now, one week later I'm planning on making the phone calls & emails back to those who inquired (and did not show up) -- that is -- 19 emails and 31 phone calls that sprouted 11 groups of interested people over the 14 hours, and as mentioned, the house is still for sale by owner...

Moderator, please advise.

Best regards, 
KC




Bidding Method
& Rules:



 

?      Only buyers who have seen the house may
bid and must leave an open bid prior
to departure.

?      Bids in the
open bidding stage are no more binding on the buyer as they are on the seller.
However, a purchase contract resulting from this method will be binding.

?      Open bids may
be left at any level, at any time prior to 8:00 pm Sunday Evening, provided a
bid higher than $82,500 has already been left in writing during the open
bidding.

?      No one can enter the Open Bidding
after 5:00 pm Sunday Evening.

?      During the initial
bidding bids will be submitted as an open bid. We will tell anyone the status
of the bids at any time, provided that person has already entered a bid higher
than $82,500 in writing during the open bidding.

. ?     
My home will be offered to the highest qualifying bidder in final bidding
stage, to be known as the Round-Robin bidding.

?      The highest
bidder prior to the round-robin bidding will have the opportunity to make the
first bid when the final bidding begins. Then the next highest bidder will get
the second call, and so on down the list.

?      Every bidder
will have the opportunity to top the prior high bid until the highest bidder is
established.

?      If there is more than 1 bid at the same
level, the earliest bid will be honored.

?      Bids must
be at least $500 apart.  ($149,500/$150,000/$150,500 -- Etc.)

       ?      The
highest bidder will be offered the home at the bid price.





> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 03:36:07 -0700
> From: hhsamcox at yahoo.com
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
> 
> Hello Andy,
> 
> I don't know how things work in your neck of the woods but, 
> 'nothing is final until the seller and bidder agree on and sign a contract' seems pretty straightforward to me. I also recall reading that you don't advertise the address until the night before the sale to those who've contacted you. Your marketing gets them to the general area but you don't reveal it in advance or you lose that short time frame to act energy.
> 
> Sam
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Andy Klee <Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Andy Klee <Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com>
> > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
> > To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> > Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 1:17 AM
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > Good 
> > comments, Rosemarie.  I appreciate you taking the time
> > to give 
> > feedback.
> >  
> > I've 
> > been meaning to contact an attorney (left a message for one
> > last week), and you 
> > are right, I need to be sure that I can legally call
> > this an auction.  
> > If not, I'll come back to the group and ask
> > what you all have done in those 
> > circumstances.  
> >  
> > I take 
> > it you are referring to this paragraph about pricing: 
> > "The starting bid for our home is
> > $199,500.  We hope to get 
> > more than that, of course.  And there is an
> > undisclosed reserve 
> > price.   You'll probably notice that there
> > are comparable properties 
> > to ours that are listed around
> > $500,000."
> >  
> > I 
> > didn't mean to imply that I was looking for
> > $500,000.  In fact, every high 
> > end property around here is overpriced by about
> > $100,000.  That's what a 
> > certified appraiser told me as part of his appraisal report
> > on my 
> > property.  But I can see where someone would think
> > that's what I meant, so 
> > I'll remove that sentence.  
> >  
> > I'm 
> > not comfortable unless I tell people there is an
> > undisclosed reserve 
> > price.  It seems a bit dodgy to me to only say that
> > nothing is final until 
> > both the buyer and seller agree on and sign a
> > contract.  That's perhaps 
> > another way of saying the same thing, but why not be a
> > little more open about 
> > it?  On the other hand, you'll note that this
> > statement only appears once 
> > and is tucked away on this page, and isn't on the home
> > page. 
> > 
> >  
> > The 
> > reason for the information on the website is to entice
> > people to drive 6-10 
> > hours roundtrip to see the place.  We live in one of
> > the poorest counties 
> > in the state, and most sellers of upper end homes here
> > haven't had a single 
> > showing this year.  We finally had one after we
> > followed the appraiser's 
> > advice about lowering the price.  
> >  
> > So, 
> > assuming that it's legal for me to call it an
> > auction (or that I change the 
> > website to comply with Colorado law), and if I remove the
> > sentence about comps, 
> > is it a 5 day sale?  I think so, but further input is 
> > welcome.
> >  
> > Andy
> > 
> > http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp
> >  
> > P.S. By the way, 
> > does anyone know how long it takes a real estate listing to
> > disappear from the 
> > internet?  Our contract wih the listing agent ends 2
> > weeks before the sale, 
> > and I'd prefer it if someone couldn't look up the
> > listing price by keying the 
> > address into Google. The realtor subscribes to a service
> > which syndicates the 
> > listing to various websites such as Yahoo, Zillow,
> > etc.  
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > 
> >   -----Original Message-----
> > From: 
> >  
> > 5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> > 
> >  
> > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]On
> > 
> >   Behalf Of rosemarie-fred
> > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:40 
> >   PM
> > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
> > Subject: Re: 
> >   [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
> > 
> > 
> >   Hi Andy - sounds like a
> > great spot to live! And 
> >   you describe it well.
> >   I have a couple of
> > comments. 
> >   1.Where I live (N.C.) it
> > is illegal to hold an 
> >   auction if you are not an auctioneer. Are you sure that
> > this is not the same 
> >   in CO?  I am always
> > very careful not to 
> >   use that word.
> >   By describing your money
> > requirements you might 
> >   just as well have said that the price is $500,000. You
> > have pretty well 
> >   eliminated everything that makes it a 5-day sale. I think
> > it is clear that you 
> >   put your price out there and promise to sell to the
> > highest bidder on Sunday 
> >   night if you are going to call it a 5-day sale. You
> > have taken away all 
> >   the bait to get people there.  I think there is way
> > too much information 
> >   on the website. If someone is interested in a gorgeous
> > spot like this they 
> >   will come out to see, and the rest is clutter.
> > 
> >   I hope you get your price,
> > but if you leave 
> >   "reserve Price" and hints of comps, you are
> > losing the whole idea of the 5-day 
> >   sale. It may sell for what you want, it's just
> > something else. Keep us 
> >   informed!
> >   Rosemarie
> >   
> >     ----- Original Message
> > ----- 
> >     From: 
> >     Andy 
> >     Klee 
> >     To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> > 
> >     
> >     Sent: Sunday,
> > September 06, 2009 11:11 
> >     AM
> >     Subject:
> > [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day 
> >     sale
> >     
> > 
> >     We've decided to 
> >     build a website for our 5 day sale.  We're
> > several hours away from many 
> >     potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and
> > Denver.  We'll be 
> >     running newspaper and Craig's List ads in those
> > areas the week of the sale 
> >     (last week of September) and felt that potential
> > bidders would want to see 
> >     pictures and know more about the home before driving
> > 3-5 hours.  The 
> >     ads will have a link to the website as well as our
> > phone 
> >     numbers.
> >      
> >     Local ads will 
> >     also be run, but without the link to the
> > website.
> >      
> >     Please feel free 
> >     to take a look and give me
> > feedback.
> >      
> >     It isn't quite 
> >     finished, but 90% of the content is
> > there.
> >      
> >     http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp
> >      
> >      
> >     
> >     Andy 
> >     
> >      
> >     
> >     
> > 
> >     _______________________________________________
> > 5-DayForum mailing 
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From barrettai at aol.com  Tue Sep  8 08:36:53 2009
From: barrettai at aol.com (barrettai at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:36:53 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale
In-Reply-To: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGMEKIGCAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>
Message-ID: <8CBFE982E08FA20-7E8-22E30@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com>


Auctioneers do not need to be licensed in the great State of Colorado.



Kyle Cascioli

www.AuctionBySeller.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Klee <Andy.Klee at erptips.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 7, 2009 12:17 am
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale




?

Good comments, Rosemarie.? I appreciate you taking the time to give feedback.

?

I've been meaning to contact an attorney (left a message for one last week), and you are right, I need to be sure that I can?legally call this an auction.? If not, I'll come back to the group and ask what?you all have done in those circumstances.? 

?

I take it you are referring to this paragraph about pricing:? "The starting bid for our home is $199,500.? We hope to get more than that, of course.? And there is an undisclosed reserve price.?? You'll probably notice that there are comparable properties to ours that are listed around $500,000."

?

I didn't mean to imply that I was looking for $500,000.? In fact, every high end property around here is overpriced by about $100,000.? That's what a certified appraiser told me as part of his appraisal report on my property.? But I can see where someone would think that's what I meant, so I'll remove that sentence.? 

?

I'm not comfortable unless I tell people there is an undisclosed reserve price.? It seems a bit dodgy to me to only say that nothing is final until both the buyer and seller agree on and sign a contract.? That's perhaps another way of saying the same thing, but why not be a little more open about it?? On the other hand, you'll note that this statement only appears once and is tucked away on this page, and isn't on the home page. 

?

The reason for the information on the website is to entice people to drive 6-10 hours roundtrip to see the place.? We live in one of the poorest counties in the state, and most sellers of upper end homes here haven't had a single showing this year.? We finally had one after we followed the appraiser's advice about lowering the price.? 

?

So, assuming that it's legal for me to call?it an auction (or that I change the website to comply with Colorado law), and if I remove the sentence about comps, is it a 5 day sale?? I think so, but further input is welcome.

?

Andy


http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp

?


P.S. By the way, does anyone know how long it takes a real estate listing to disappear from the internet?? Our contract wih the listing agent ends 2 weeks before the sale, and I'd prefer it if someone couldn't look up the listing price by keying the address into Google. The realtor subscribes to a service which syndicates the listing to various websites such as Yahoo, Zillow, etc.? 

?

?


-----Original Message-----
From: 5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]On Behalf Of rosemarie-fred
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:40 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale



Hi Andy - sounds like a great spot to live! And you describe it well.

I have a couple of comments.?

1.Where I live (N.C.) it is illegal to hold an auction if you are not an auctioneer. Are you sure that this is not the same in CO? ?I am always very careful not to use that word.

By describing your money requirements you might just as well have said that the price is $500,000. You have pretty well eliminated everything that makes it a 5-day sale. I think it is clear that you put your price out there and promise to sell to the highest bidder on Sunday night if you are going to call it a 5-day sale.?You have taken away all the bait to get people there. ?I think there is way too much information on the website. If someone is interested in a gorgeous spot like this they will come out to see, and the rest is clutter. 

I hope you get your price, but if you leave "reserve Price" and hints of comps, you are losing the whole idea of the 5-day sale. It may sell for what you want, it's just something else. Keep us informed!

Rosemarie


----- Original Message ----- 

From: Andy Klee 

To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:11 AM

Subject: [5-DayForum] Website for 5 day sale




We've decided to build a website for our 5 day sale.? We're several hours away from many potential buyers in Aspen, Vail, Telluride, and Denver.? We'll be running newspaper and Craig's List ads in those areas the week of the sale (last week of September) and felt that potential bidders would want to see pictures and know more about the home before driving 3-5 hours.? The ads will have a link to the website as well as our phone numbers.

?

Local ads will also be run, but without the link to the website.

?

Please feel free to take a look and give me feedback.

?

It isn't quite finished, but 90% of the content is there.

?

http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/index.asp

?

?


Andy 

?
?




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From jotis at leadershipinst.org  Tue Sep  8 09:13:49 2009
From: jotis at leadershipinst.org (Jeff Otis)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:13:49 -0400
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Please remove us from mailing list thanks



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From danfitnessman at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 15:42:07 2009
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Wow thanks Bill, it is really impressive that you yourself take the time to
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> Please remove us from mailing list thanks
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>
>
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From bretsullins at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  8 15:05:00 2009
From: bretsullins at yahoo.com (Bret Sullins)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:05:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Ohio laws
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?Anyone know the law in Ohio for holding an auction, such as, needing to be licensed, etc.?? Thank You?? -bret


      
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Tue Sep  8 19:58:38 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:58:38 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Ohio laws
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Bret,
 
It really doesn't apply to the 5 day sale, since you are having a round  
robin bidding, not an auction.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 9/8/2009 6:06:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bretsullins at yahoo.com writes:

Anyone know the law in Ohio for holding an auction,  such as, needing to be 
licensed, etc.?  Thank You    -bret


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From randy at rjhurwitzlaw.com  Wed Sep  9 12:16:27 2009
From: randy at rjhurwitzlaw.com (Randy Hurwitz)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:16:27 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] Need help with sale in Phoenix, Arizona
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Can anyone provide help with a sale in Phoenix.  I will gladly pay a
qualified consultant.  Contact me at 480-390-6532 or via email.  Thx!

Randy J. Hurwitz

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Check out _www.AuctionBySeller.com_ (http://www.AuctionBySeller.com)  
 
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From bretsullins at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  9 19:08:53 2009
From: bretsullins at yahoo.com (Bret Sullins)
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Subject: [5-DayForum] High bidder
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?I don't remember how to?respond to buyers with?the question,? "is their is a reserve price"..?? Thank you again!??????????? -Bret


      
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Wed Sep  9 19:47:01 2009
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 19:47:01 EDT
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Bret,
 
I didn't say that there was a reserve price, just that the house would be  
sold if a mutually agreeable price was reached.  That was in conversation,  
after I warmed them all up and had them fall in love with the house.  I  
helped to greet, but EVERYONE came to me at the end as the closer.  And no  one 
left without bidding.
 
Janet
 
 
 
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I don't remember how to respond to buyers  with the question,  "is their is 
a reserve  price"..   Thank you  again!             -Bret


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From jotis at leadershipinst.org  Thu Sep 10 08:49:05 2009
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Mailman, pls remove us from the forum database thanks. Numerous requests
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Bret,

 

I didn't say that there was a reserve price, just that the house would be
sold if a mutually agreeable price was reached.  That was in conversation,
after I warmed them all up and had them fall in love with the house.  I
helped to greet, but EVERYONE came to me at the end as the closer.  And no
one left without bidding.

 

Janet

 

 

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From randy at rjhurwitzlaw.com  Fri Sep 11 15:28:18 2009
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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 11 16:47:34 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:47:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - doing it right this time! Could use
	some advice!
Message-ID: <733329.26133.qm@web83809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hello, again!
I posted in August about our story.? To briefly recap - we only did newspaper advertising (We had the 2nd edition of the book, didn't know about the third!), we only got 17 calls by Friday night, but held the sale anyway. Only had one serious bidder - she got a great deal!? Well, she would have if she could have come up with the money!? We didn't have anyone to fall back on, so we waited her out a bit.? Bottom line - we are running the sale again! 

Actually, I'm happy, we will get to correct the mistakes we made last time!? We have the third edition, and I've been reading the posts on this forum to help prepare for the sale.? 

OK, last time, I was encouraged to advertise on Craigslist, and to start at $24,500.? This is a little more than 1/4 of what we believe the house to be worth.? I'm scared to death to start at this price!? I also have never used Craigslist, so I've looked at it a few times, to try to familiarize myself with how things work.? 

We will be running the sale on the last weekend of September, and we are east and north of St. Louis a bit.? We are about 30 minutes away from the Arch.? 

We have already determined not to run an ad in the daily - we got one phone call last time, and we spent about $200.? Most of our phone calls came from a little weekly that goes to mostly rural population in Jersey County.? 

We are having a garage sale this weekend, and we will be passing out flyers and letting people know about the upcoming sale. 

What else would you recommend that we do to advertise the house.? Would you really start a sale at about 1/4 of the current value?? I'm all ears for advice!

Sue PruettVisit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.comand http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/?
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Sep 11 17:18:05 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:18:05 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - doing it right this time! Could use
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Sue,
 
Wow!  Brave!  Go girl!  I didn't get much from  Craig's.  However; those 
who have, put in details and lots of pictures,  which I didn't.  I just listed 
the ad.  My traffic came from  signs.  Others have had great luck with 
flyers/post cards through the  post office.  Apparently they can do directed 
mailings for you?  I  don't know.  Also, why 1/4 value?  If you did half, and 
that didn't  appeal, the I would do half of 80% of the value.  I would VERY 
much like  you to keep us posted on how it progresses's this time.  I haven't 
seen a  "do-over" yet and would love to know how it works out.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 9/11/2009 3:48:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:

Hello, again!
I posted in August about our  story.  To briefly recap - we only did 
newspaper advertising (We  had the 2nd edition of the book, didn't know about the 
third!), we only  got 17 calls by Friday night, but held the sale anyway. 
Only had one  serious bidder - she got a great deal!  Well, she would have if 
she  could have come up with the money!  We didn't have anyone to fall  back 
on, so we waited her out a bit.  Bottom line - we are running  the sale 
again! 

Actually, I'm happy, we will get to correct the  mistakes we made last 
time!  We have the third edition, and I've  been reading the posts on this forum 
to help prepare for the sale.   

OK, last time, I was encouraged to advertise on Craigslist, and  to start 
at $24,500.  This is a little more than 1/4 of what we  believe the house to 
be worth.  I'm scared to death to start at  this price!  I also have never 
used Craigslist, so I've looked at  it a few times, to try to familiarize 
myself with how things work.   

We will be running the sale on the last weekend of September,  and we are 
east and north of St. Louis a bit.  We are about 30  minutes away from the 
Arch.  

We have already determined not  to run an ad in the daily - we got one 
phone call last time, and we  spent about $200.  Most of our phone calls came 
from a little  weekly that goes to mostly rural population in Jersey County.   

We are having a garage sale this weekend, and we will be passing  out 
flyers and letting people know about the upcoming sale. 

What  else would you recommend that we do to advertise the house.  Would  
you really start a sale at about 1/4 of the current value?  I'm all  ears for 
advice!

Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
and _http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/_ 
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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Sat Sep 12 08:36:52 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 08:36:52 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - doing it right this time! Could
	usesome advice!
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Good luck - I sure hope it works for  you this time. I am a little puzzled by your nervousness about advertising low. Think about it. What is the reason for putting out a low figure? To get people to look at your house, right? The lower the price, the more people. Once people see the house it will be crystal clear that this is a starting point. You could probably put $1 and get a big crowd. My only doubt about it is that in the book Bill suggests a price a little lower than 50% so I am guessing that he thinks that's where you should be. Was he the one that suggested 25%? 
You know, the number that really matters is the one you end up with on a closing statement - all the rest  is marketing to get buyers to see your house.
I hope it works - let us know. I will be selling my third house this way soon, and will keep you all posted.
Rosemarie
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  Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:47 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - doing it right this time! Could usesome advice!


        Hello, again!
        I posted in August about our story.  To briefly recap - we only did newspaper advertising (We had the 2nd edition of the book, didn't know about the third!), we only got 17 calls by Friday night, but held the sale anyway. Only had one serious bidder - she got a great deal!  Well, she would have if she could have come up with the money!  We didn't have anyone to fall back on, so we waited her out a bit.  Bottom line - we are running the sale again! 

        Actually, I'm happy, we will get to correct the mistakes we made last time!  We have the third edition, and I've been reading the posts on this forum to help prepare for the sale.  

        OK, last time, I was encouraged to advertise on Craigslist, and to start at $24,500.  This is a little more than 1/4 of what we believe the house to be worth.  I'm scared to death to start at this price!  I also have never used Craigslist, so I've looked at it a few times, to try to familiarize myself with how things work.  

        We will be running the sale on the last weekend of September, and we are east and north of St. Louis a bit.  We are about 30 minutes away from the Arch.  

        We have already determined not to run an ad in the daily - we got one phone call last time, and we spent about $200.  Most of our phone calls came from a little weekly that goes to mostly rural population in Jersey County.  

        We are having a garage sale this weekend, and we will be passing out flyers and letting people know about the upcoming sale. 

        What else would you recommend that we do to advertise the house.  Would you really start a sale at about 1/4 of the current value?  I'm all ears for advice!


        Sue Pruett
        Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
        and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
        and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
       



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From bill at effros.com  Sat Sep 12 12:07:39 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:07:39 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - doing it right this time! Could use
 some advice!
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Sue,

The last weekend in September gets tangled up with the Jewish High 
Holidays.  While that might not be an issue in the community where you 
actually live, it might be an issue for some buyers in St. Louis.  No 
observant Jew will participate in your Round Robin Sunday night, or 
settle with you on Monday.  This will probably not change the selling 
price for your home, it is just a factor you should be aware of.

You were prepared to sell your home for $75,000, and you originally 
advertised at $74,500 getting 17 responses.  Only 5 bidders actually 
came.  Only 2 left bids.  One agreed to $75,000 but the deal fell through.

Your home can probably be currently sold for somewhere around $75,000.  
$24,500 is the correct starting price.

Place the ad late Tuesday night in Craigslist, and nowhere else.  Then 
see what happens by Wednesday night.  Look at all of the information 
posted by Julie Gorman who was selling her home in Kentucky at the same 
time you were selling yours in Indiana.  (Look in the August Archives.)

If you fail to get an overwhelming number of responses by Wednesday 
night, just stop everything right there and then and people on this 
Forum will help you figure out why.

It is more likely that you will get an overwhelming number of 
responses.  If that is the case, decide now how much additional 
advertising you want to do beyond Craigslist.  If you follow Julie's 
postings you will see she ultimately felt she got too many responses, 
and that she would not beat the bushes quite as hard the next time she 
runs a 5-Day Sale.

As of Wednesday night you will have spent nothing, and you will not have 
risked anything regarding the selling price of your home.

In my opinion you do not have to do any additional advertising if you 
get an overwhelming number of Craigslist responses.  If it makes you 
feel better to put out flyers, advertise in newspapers, or post clowns 
with cattle prods at various intersections in your town, do so--however 
I doubt it will increase the final bid.

Everyone who could possibly have an interest in your home will know 
about your sale from word of mouth generated by your Craigslist ad.  All 
the brokers look in Craigslist--they have to.

You will get the same predictable questions over and over, no matter 
what you say in your ad.  Start to prepare for them now.  No, it's not a 
foreclosure.  No the house is not trashed.  People can bid any amount 
they wish.  Yes, you will sell your home to the high bidder on Sunday 
night. (Don't Weasel! -- again, look at what Julie said: "I'm Selling My 
Home Sunday Night!" -- I believed her.  So did the people who responded 
to her advertising.  If I, and others on this list, and buyers near you 
all believe this is true, you will sell your home that Sunday night, and 
you will get the most possible for your home at this time.)

As you know, my thinking about 5-Day Sales has evolved over time.  Don't 
get caught up in what I wrote in earlier editions, including the Third.  
Times have changed.

Here's what I think now:

1.  Anyone can sell their home very quickly for the most anyone can get 
at the time of the sale.
2.  You can learn everything you need to know by Wednesday night using 
Craigslist.
3.  People who really intend to sell their home to the high bidder 
Sunday night, and make this unequivocally clear to anyone who asks, do 
better than people who start by looking for escape hatches.

What you must do now is to start preparing for an overwhelming 
Craigslist response.  If you make it easy for people to respond to you 
through Craigslist--your email address is good, there is not a hint of a 
scam in it, it is your name--and begin to engage all of them in your 
responses, many will show up at your door over the weekend.  Nobody gets 
in before then.  You will see cars circling your block checking you out 
before the weekend.  This is all good.

If you want to place more advertising, or send out flyers, or do 
anything else -- put your plans into effect on Thursday morning.  You 
should have 25 responses before you put any money on the table.  You 
should be committed to the sale, or not, by Thursday morning.

Make sure you have enough people helping you, and a plan to make sure 
every possible real buyer understands everything needed to place a bid 
before walking out the door.

You should get lots of bids.  There should be many more than 3 real 
buyers, although as the bidding approaches the highest amount you can 
get for your home at this time, more and more will drop off--don't worry 
about this.  Finally there will be just 1 left, and the bid will be the 
highest you can get at this time.  Take it, and settle fast--while there 
are still scores of others interested.

Keep posting to this list and someone will always reply.  There are many 
people here who have run lots of 5-Day Sales who are exceedingly 
generous about helping others with no prospect of financial gain for 
themselves.  Spend time in the archives, as many of your questions have 
been answered there.  This link might get you to the August Archives (I 
haven't tested it): 
http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/2009-August/author.html

Selling a home is a major life change -- it's always scary on some 
level.  When you need support, just ask for it.

Bill Effros
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Sue Pruett wrote:
> Hello, again!
> I posted in August about our story.  To briefly recap - we only did 
> newspaper advertising (We had the 2nd edition of the book, didn't know 
> about the third!), we only got 17 calls by Friday night, but held the 
> sale anyway. Only had one serious bidder - she got a great deal!  
> Well, she would have if she could have come up with the money!  We 
> didn't have anyone to fall back on, so we waited her out a bit.  
> Bottom line - we are running the sale again!
>
> Actually, I'm happy, we will get to correct the mistakes we made last 
> time!  We have the third edition, and I've been reading the posts on 
> this forum to help prepare for the sale. 
>
> OK, last time, I was encouraged to advertise on Craigslist, and to 
> start at $24,500.  This is a little more than 1/4 of what we believe 
> the house to be worth.  I'm scared to death to start at this price!  I 
> also have never used Craigslist, so I've looked at it a few times, to 
> try to familiarize myself with how things work. 
>
> We will be running the sale on the last weekend of September, and we 
> are east and north of St. Louis a bit.  We are about 30 minutes away 
> from the Arch. 
>
> We have already determined not to run an ad in the daily - we got one 
> phone call last time, and we spent about $200.  Most of our phone 
> calls came from a little weekly that goes to mostly rural population 
> in Jersey County. 
>
> We are having a garage sale this weekend, and we will be passing out 
> flyers and letting people know about the upcoming sale.
>
> What else would you recommend that we do to advertise the house.  
> Would you really start a sale at about 1/4 of the current value?  I'm 
> all ears for advice!
>
> Sue Pruett
> Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
> and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com <http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/>
> and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
>  
>
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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 12 21:48:11 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:48:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - doing it right this time! Could use
	some advice!
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A quick update on our status.? 

We had the garage sale today at the house that we are selling in two weeks.? We took the plunge and decided to start at $24,500 (Are we CRAZY?!).? Anyway, we got great response from people!? We handed out about 50 fliers, and we had several people want a tour today!? Several of them indicated they had family members who were house hunting, and they took a flier to give to them.? We did get several strange looks, but it really did play out right - they just HAD to know more!? 

The response to the question - "Is this the right price?"? was one I'd read somewhere - either in the book or on the forum - "That's our starting price, we hope we'll get 3-4 times that amount, but we'll take the high bid Sunday night!"? 

If we were available, we would have had the garage sale one weekend, and the house sale the next weekend, but we just don't have two weekends in a row available for some time now.? So, I hope that doesn't hurt us!? 

I'll be putting fliers up at the local grocery stores and other places that permit community notices.? We can't afford a targeted mailing, or we would do that, too.? We'll advertise on Craigslist.? Are there any other websites we should consider advertising on?? I'm sure I've seen other names, but can't put my finger on them right now.? Of course, we'd prefer to advertise in places that we don't have to pay, or at least pay very little.

I have to admit - I'm actually feeling more and more comfortable with starting at this much lower price.? When we started at $74,500, hoping to get $85-$90K, it was a big mistake.? The people who saw the ad, or did actually come, thought this was the price we were hoping to get, so they were hesitant to bid anything higher than that, thinking they had given us what we wanted.? Now that we've gone with a ridiculously low price, they know we aren't going to sell for, they don't seem to bat an eye at it when we tell them that we are going to let the buyers set the price, and we know it will be above $25K!

What other suggestions do you have?? I'm all ears!

Sue PruettVisit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.comand http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/?
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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 12 23:11:46 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:11:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again!
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OOPS!

I didn't see Mr. Effros' message before I posted the previous message!? Sorry about that!? I'm not as smooth on this board, yet as I'd like to be!

OK, so we'll do Craigslist starting Tuesday night, and we'll go from there!? The only issue I worry about is that, if we wait until Wed night/Thurs am to decide if we need to do more advertising, our hands will be tied.? The local daily cost us $200+, and got us one phone call in 5 days.? They are notorious for messing up ads, and for two days, our ad did not appear in the correct place.? WE couldn't even find it!? The weeklies will have been out for a day or more already, and we won't have a chance to get in them.? Does this mean, in your mind, that we should just forget the print advertising?? Now, I'm thinking that if we have 25 calls by Wed, it's a go, no matter what - we have our 25!? Am I right?? I'm convinced that Craigslist and word of mouth from the garage sale fliers will be plenty.? So, maybe all the other questions are not necessary.

Rosemarie (I think) wondered why $24,500, and it was Mr. Effros that suggested that price.? We believe our home to be worth $85 - $95K.? Homes in our neighborhood, very similar to ours, but smaller, have sold just this year in this range.? If we take the middle $90K, then go to 80% - that's $72K, take 50% of that - $36K, then the next lowest magic number - we have $24,500.? I get this strategy now, I didn't before.? One lady today asked me, "But what if your high bid is only $30K?? Then what will you do?"? I said "There is nothing legally binding until Monday when we sign the contract.? We are very confident that enough people will be interested, that they will not let this home go for so little - they will bid higher than that.? At some point, they will not go any higher - that will be our sale price!"? She thinks we are crazy!? I'm glad - she'll talk about us, and show the flier to all her friends and tell them how crazy we are.? We should
 get some phone calls from them, too!

I've already had one person call a friend and send them our way because she knew they were looking for a house!

I've read through Julie's posts from August again.? I remember her Craigslist ad, but not in great detail.? It's not there any more.? Is it somewhere that I can see it, again?? I'd love to use it as a model.? 

Thanks, everyone for your great feedback!? It sure is easier to do this with all the support that's available!? I hope to be another success story soon, and have the experience necessary to help others!

Sue PruettVisit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.comand http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/?
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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 12 23:35:06 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:35:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again!
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I thought of one more question!? We are no longer living in this home, and we don't have Internet service there.? So, Saturday and Sunday, when we are at the home inspection, we won't be able to receive or respond to those who respond to our craigslist ad.? Should we put our phone number in this ad?? I am a bit hesitant to put it on there, as I assume we are opening ourselves up to LOTS of unwanted phone calls.? 

We have very few family who can help us out - just one member is going to come and stay with our three youngest children, the oldest two will be there to help us at the inspection.? Our friends all think we are crazy for doing this, so I'm hesitant to ask for their help.

What's your advice?

Sue PruettVisit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.comand http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/?
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sun Sep 13 12:02:40 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:02:40 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again!
Message-ID: <d56.3659128c.37de71a0@aol.com>

Generally you can do an auto-respond with most e-mail utilities.  I  would 
check into this and you can include the address and map in this.  It  will 
go to everyone, so you might want to let your regular correspondents  know.
 
Just a thought!
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 9/12/2009 10:35:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:

I thought of one more question!  We are no longer  living in this home, and 
we don't have Internet service there.  So,  Saturday and Sunday, when we 
are at the home inspection, we won't be  able to receive or respond to those 
who respond to our craigslist  ad.  Should we put our phone number in this 
ad?  I am a bit  hesitant to put it on there, as I assume we are opening 
ourselves up to  LOTS of unwanted phone calls.  

We have very few family who  can help us out - just one member is going to 
come and stay with our  three youngest children, the oldest two will be 
there to help us at the  inspection.  Our friends all think we are crazy for 
doing this, so  I'm hesitant to ask for their help.

What's your advice?

Sue  Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
and _http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/_ 
(http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/) 
 


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From mike at shortsalesupportgroup.com  Sun Sep 13 22:18:48 2009
From: mike at shortsalesupportgroup.com (mike at shortsalesupportgroup.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:18:48 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] fee for helping others
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From barrettai at aol.com  Mon Sep 14 09:10:06 2009
From: barrettai at aol.com (barrettai at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:10:06 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] fee for helping others
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Varies as a function of the "scope of work"



Can be as little as $1,200.



Kyle


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Sent: Sun, Sep 13, 2009 9:18 pm
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Hi,
What fees are others charging for helping people sell their houses using this method?
Thanks
Mike



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From Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com  Mon Sep 14 22:41:34 2009
From: Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com (Andy Klee)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:41:34 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] Our 5 day sale starts on September 23
Message-ID: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGCELNGEAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>

Elise and I are starting to get excited about the potential of our upcoming
5 day sale.   We built a website to mention in our ads.  We haven't run any
ads anywhere (the ads start a week from Wednesday), but a few friends know
about the website and a friend of a friend already indicated interest in
coming to the open house and bidding.  So I think we'll do well when we
advertise all over the western slope of Colorado, Denver, Salt Lake, etc.

Originally, I thought that the 'minimum price' in the ads was something that
we told people about during the first round of bidding.  But the book never
says that one should try to enforce the minimum price mentioned in the ads
during the bidding.  For example, our ads say that the "house will be sold
Sunday night for $199,500 or Best Offer."  But, if the high bid during the
Open House is $100,000 then that's where we start with the round robin
bidding.  We don't tell the bidders that they must bid $199,500 or more at
that point (during round 1 of the round robin) to stay in the bidding,
correct?

I'd be interested in hearing if anyone on this forum has any experience with
getting at least their minimum price during the Open House, or is it very
common to not even see that much bid during the Open House?

Also, I've already had one interested party think that "$199,500 or Best
Offer" means that we'll definitely take $199,500 for the house, or they can
try to get it for less by bidding.  Similar to thinking that $199,500 is an
eBay Buy It Now price.  Has anyone had that reaction from people interested
in their sale?

Once the ads are out, do you not tell prospective buyers that you have a
minimum price?  This is not the same as our undisclosed reserve price, which
is higher than the minimum price in the ads.

Another question:  Even if we don't get what we feel is a fair price for the
home (and we're pretty flexible on that point) and we decide to not pursue a
contract with the high bidder, I think this method is a lot better than
listing with a realtor or a traditional for sale by owner method.  How many
of you have actually committed in advance to taking whatever you can get
(given enough bidders), and how many of you have decided not to sell after
getting a reasonable number of bidders to show up?

Thanks for your input, and wish us luck!

Andy

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Tue Sep 15 09:58:55 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:58:55 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Our 5 day sale starts on September 23
Message-ID: <be8.5b4bb84e.37e0f79f@aol.com>

I had one bid that was below our advertised price.  The next bidder  told 
me it was an insult to me and to not feel bad.  It was too  funny.  They bid 
over the advertised price.  I'd like to have the link  again to your web 
site to take a peak as to how it turned out.
 
Great luck on your sale!!!!!
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/14/2009 9:42:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Andy.Klee at erptips.com writes:

Elise and I are  starting to get excited about the potential of our 
upcoming 5 day  sale.   We built a website to mention in our ads.  We haven't  run 
any ads anywhere (the ads start a week from Wednesday), but a few friends  
know about the website and a friend of a friend already indicated interest in 
 coming to the open house and bidding.  So I think we'll do well when we  
advertise all over the western slope of Colorado, Denver, Salt Lake,  etc.
 
Originally, I  thought that the 'minimum price' in the ads was something 
that we told people  about during the first round of bidding.  But the book 
never says that  one should try to enforce the minimum price mentioned in the 
ads during the  bidding.  For example, our ads say that the "house will be 
sold Sunday  night for $199,500 or Best Offer."  But, if the high bid during 
the Open  House is $100,000 then that's where we start with the round robin  
bidding.  We don't tell the bidders that they must bid $199,500 or more  at 
that point (during round 1 of the round robin) to stay in the bidding,  
correct?
 
I'd be interested  in hearing if anyone on this forum has any experience 
with getting at  least their minimum price during the Open House, or is it 
very common to not  even see that much bid during the Open House?
 
Also, I've already  had one interested party think that "$199,500 or Best 
Offer" means that we'll  definitely take $199,500 for the house, or they can 
try to get it for less by  bidding.  Similar to thinking that $199,500 is an 
eBay Buy It Now  price.  Has anyone had that reaction from people 
interested in their  sale?  
 
Once the ads are  out, do you not tell prospective buyers that you have a 
minimum price?   This is not the same as our undisclosed reserve price, which 
is higher than  the minimum price in the ads.   
 
Another  question:  Even if we don't get what we feel is a fair price for  
the home (and we're pretty flexible on that point) and we decide to not 
pursue  a contract with the high bidder, I think this method is a lot better 
than  listing with a realtor or a traditional for sale by owner method.  How  
many of you have actually committed in advance to taking whatever you can get 
 (given enough bidders), and how many of you have decided not to sell after 
 getting a reasonable number of bidders to show up?  
 
Thanks for your  input, and wish us luck!
 
 
Andy  







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From atardos at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 14 14:55:44 2009
From: atardos at yahoo.com (Aaron Tardos)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:55:44 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] Best Advertising Mediums in Boise Idaho or Las Vegas
	Nevada?
Message-ID: <002201ca356c$f6c16510$e4442f30$@com>

Hello 5-Day Community,

 

I'm so excited! This is my first post to The Forum :-)

 

On page 148th of Bill's book he says "I still place an ad in the best print
location available, as well as the best Internet location."

 

Does anybody know the best "print location" and the best "Internet location"
for Boise Idaho?

 

What about four Las Vegas Nevada?

 

Does anybody know if it's important to use postcards and/or flyer canvassing
(flyers rolled up and rubber banded to people's doorknobs) in these cities?

 

I want to stick to Bill's philosophy that he states on page 147 where he
says:

"In trying to determine the value of paid advertising, the easiest way to
judge a home-selling medium is to see how many home-for home sale ads it
carries. If it has a lot, join the crowd. If not, keep looking."

 

Does anybody know of top realtors in either of these areas (that might know
the answers to these questions)?

What about mortgage professionals?

 

Thank you!

 

Aaron

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From Huberbric at aol.com  Tue Sep 15 22:28:29 2009
From: Huberbric at aol.com (Huberbric at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:28:29 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum]  Trying again!
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Hi Sue, I bought the book(per your advice) and we are trying the  5-day 
method in Edwardsville this coming weekend(9-19/20). We advertised in  a couple 
of local papers and on Craigslist. I'll let you know how it goes! I  hope 
things work out better this next time for you. God Bless, Becky (Jan's  
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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 16 12:07:29 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:07:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum]   Trying again!
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Becky,

I'm so excited!? Let us know how it goes!

Sue PruettVisit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.comand http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/?
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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 21 08:52:06 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:52:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] We are selling our home this weekend!
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Well the forum has been very quiet for a few days, I am hoping it picks up again, soon!  

We are selling our home this weekend.  Because we have two weekly newspapers in our area, and they are relatively inexpensive to run ads in, we decided to go ahead and run them, as well as craigslist.  One weekly comes out on Saturdays, so that one has been out for a couple of days, and we have 11 calls from it, already.  The other weekly comes out Wednesday, so that will be the right timing for our sale.  

We have our starting price at $24,500, and I think that's the key!  Many people are skeptical when they call, but most are intrigued by the process, once I explain it to them.  One even said they didn't think they'd want to buy that way, but I encouraged her to come on out to the inspection, and she could see the process in action.  We'll see what she does.  

My husband has been working on the craigslist ad, and I think it's going to look great!  

The other thing we did was have a garage sale at the house last weekend, and we handed out flyers about the sale then.  A few people even looked the house over during the garage sale.  We had it in the house, so it was already open to all who came in for the garage sale.  I think we'll have a few people come back for the sale.

I'll keep you all posted about how things go.  The biggest struggle I'm having now is that I've caught the cold my children had last week - complete with on fire sore throat.  I'm praying that it will let go soon, so it's not so hard to talk on the phone.  I may have to train my daughter to take phone calls for a day or so.  




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From Janetislight at aol.com  Mon Sep 21 09:24:32 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:24:32 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] We are selling our home this weekend!
Message-ID: <be5.5f5a995f.37e8d890@aol.com>

Sue,
 
11 responses already!  WooHoo!  Get yourself some zinc lozenges,  they will 
knock that cold and sore throat right out.  Keep us  posted.  I rooting for 
you!!!!
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 9/21/2009 7:53:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:

    Well the forum has been very quiet for a few days, I  am hoping it 
picks up again, soon!  

We are selling our home  this weekend.  Because we have two weekly 
newspapers in our area,  and they are relatively inexpensive to run ads in, we 
decided to go  ahead and run them, as well as craigslist.  One weekly comes out 
on  Saturdays, so that one has been out for a couple of days, and we have 11  
calls from it, already.  The other weekly comes out Wednesday, so  that 
will be the right timing for our sale.  

We have our  starting price at $24,500, and I think that's the key!  Many 
people  are skeptical when they call, but most are intrigued by the process,  
once I explain it to them.  One even said they didn't think they'd  want to 
buy that way, but I encouraged her to come on out to the  inspection, and 
she could see the process in action.  We'll see  what she does.  

My husband has been working on the  craigslist ad, and I think it's going 
to look great!  

The  other thing we did was have a garage sale at the house last weekend, 
and  we handed out flyers about the sale then.  A few people even looked  the 
house over during the garage sale.  We had it in the house, so  it was 
already open to all who came in for the garage sale.  I  think we'll have a few 
people come back for the sale.

I'll keep  you all posted about how things go.  The biggest struggle I'm  
having now is that I've caught the cold my children had last week -  complete 
with on fire sore throat.  I'm praying that it will let go  soon, so it's 
not so hard to talk on the phone.  I may have to  train my daughter to take 
phone calls for a day or so.   



Sue  Pruett




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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 21 13:58:59 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:58:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15
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Thanks, Janet!  I'll get those Zinc Lozenges!

We're up to 13 calls!

 
Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
 




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Well the forum has been very quiet for a few days, I am hoping it picks up again, soon!  

We are selling our home this weekend.  Because we have two weekly newspapers in our area, and they are relatively inexpensive to run ads in, we decided to go ahead and run them, as well as craigslist.  One weekly comes out on Saturdays, so that one has been out for a couple of days, and we have 11 calls from it, already.  The other weekly comes out Wednesday, so that will be the right timing for our sale.  

We have our starting price at $24,500, and I think that's the key!  Many people are skeptical when they call, but most are intrigued by the process, once I explain it to them.  One even said they didn't think they'd want to buy that way, but I encouraged her to come on out to the inspection, and she could see the process in action.  We'll see what she does.  

My husband has been working on the craigslist ad, and I think it's going to look great!  

The other thing we did was have a garage sale at the house last weekend, and we handed out flyers about the sale then.  A few people even looked the house over during the garage sale.  We had it in the house, so it was already open to all who came in for the garage sale.  I think we'll have a few people come back for the sale.

I'll keep you all posted about how things go.  The biggest struggle I'm having now is that I've caught the cold my children had last week - complete with on fire sore throat.  I'm praying that it will let go soon, so it's not so hard to talk on the phone.  I may have to train my daughter to take phone calls for a day or so.  




Sue Pruett
 
Fw: Re: [5-DayForum] We are selling our home this weekend!
Re: [5-DayForum] We are selling our home this weekend!
Monday, September 21, 2009 8:24:32 AM
From: 
"" <Janetislight at aol.com>
To: 
"" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sue,
 
11 responses already!  WooHoo!  Get yourself some zinc lozenges, 
they will knock that cold and sore throat right out.  Keep us 
posted.  I rooting for you!!!!
 
Janet 
 
In a message dated 9/21/2009 7:53:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:
Well the forum has been very quiet for a few days, I 
>        am hoping it picks up again, soon!  
>
>We are selling our home 
>        this weekend.  Because we have two weekly newspapers in our area, 
>        and they are relatively inexpensive to run ads in, we decided to go 
>        ahead and run them, as well as craigslist.  One weekly comes out on 
>        Saturdays, so that one has been out for a couple of days, and we have 11 
>        calls from it, already.  The other weekly comes out Wednesday, so 
>        that will be the right timing for our sale.  
>
>We have our 
>        starting price at $24,500, and I think that's the key!  Many people 
>        are skeptical when they call, but most are intrigued by the process, 
>        once I explain it to them.  One even said they didn't think they'd 
>        want to buy that way, but I encouraged her to come on out to the 
>        inspection, and she could see the process in action.  We'll see 
>        what she does.  
>
>My husband has been working on the 
>        craigslist ad, and I think it's going to look great!  
>
>The 
>        other thing we did was have a garage sale at the house last weekend, and 
>        we handed out flyers about the sale then.  A few people even looked 
>        the house over during the garage sale.  We had it in the house, so 
>        it was already open to all who came in for the garage sale.  I 
>        think we'll have a few people come back for the sale.
>
>I'll keep 
>        you all posted about how things go.  The biggest struggle I'm 
>        having now is that I've caught the cold my children had last week - 
>        complete with on fire sore throat.  I'm praying that it will let go 
>        soon, so it's not so hard to talk on the phone.  I may have to 
>        train my daughter to take phone calls for a day or so.  
> 
>
>
>
>
>Sue 
>      Pruett
> 
>
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From jpwcorp at charter.net  Sun Sep 20 19:29:11 2009
From: jpwcorp at charter.net (Jim Winkelmann)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:29:11 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again!
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Message-ID: <000201ca3a4a$295c0d90$c600a8c0@DOOREMEDIESD1111R>

Is this Edwardsville Illinois? Please let me know.

Jim

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From: Huberbric at aol.com [mailto:Huberbric at aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:28 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again!

Hi Sue, I bought the book(per your advice) and we are trying the 5-day
method in Edwardsville this coming weekend(9-19/20). We advertised in a
couple of local papers and on Craigslist. I'll let you know how it goes! I
hope things work out better this next time for you. God Bless, Becky (Jan's
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From leslie at buysalida.com  Tue Sep 22 15:22:20 2009
From: leslie at buysalida.com (Leslie Walker)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:22:20 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] fix up property
Message-ID: <033c01ca3bba$01b69820$0b00a8c0@owner92ae149a7>

I have a property which is very distressed, i.e. no electricity and roof has caved in, don't plan to fix anything, can it be sold "as is" using 5-day.  I'll take all debris from the grounds, but don't want to sink major $ into it.

Leslie Walker
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Tue Sep 22 18:15:03 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:15:03 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] fix up property
Message-ID: <d41.4c89b6b6.37eaa667@aol.com>

Leslie,
 
I don't know why a 5 day sale wouldn't work.  If the building is  complete 
"trash," then you need to probably advertise it as land with an  unstable 
structure.  If the roof has caved in, I doubt there is anything  salvageable 
there in the building.  I flip some properties from time  to time and this 
sounds like something that I would level and put new  construction on if 
electricity and sewer are available.  Maybe you could  attach a picture in your 
next email.... a slab and foundation is worth  something, but the rest of the 
building is a cost to the purchaser to get rid  of.  This is an additional 
expense beyond normal rehabs.
 
Good Luck with this one.  It would be great to hear what you end up  doing 
with it.
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 9/22/2009 2:50:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
leslie at buysalida.com writes:

I have a property which is very distressed, i.e.  no electricity and roof 
has caved in, don't plan to fix anything, can it be  sold "as is" using 
5-day.  I'll take all debris from the grounds, but  don't want to sink major $ 
into it.
 
Leslie  Walker


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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 23 10:27:29 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:27:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
Message-ID: <251815.97604.qm@web83812.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other weekly we advertised in comes out today.  

Here's the link to the craigslist ad: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and putting it up again early Friday.

I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and having success!

 
Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
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From Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com  Wed Sep 23 11:10:44 2009
From: Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com (Andy Klee)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:10:44 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
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Message-ID: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGGEOLGGAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>

We've got our ads running today as well in Denver, Boulder and about 10
papers on the Western Slope (Colorado).  Here's our Craigslist ad:
http://westslope.craigslist.org/reo/1388277586.html.

This is a great test of selling a very rural property.  We're 8 miles from a
town of 2,500 people.

Good luck to both of us.

Andy
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:27 AM
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
  Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad


  Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from
craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but
we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other
weekly we advertised in comes out today.

  Here's the link to the craigslist ad:
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any
comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and
putting it up again early Friday.

  I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and
having success!


  Sue Pruett
  Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
  and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Wed Sep 23 11:13:31 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:13:31 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
References: <251815.97604.qm@web83812.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8A886F68E372477EB6158C0AFC32A27A@rosemarifv6onv>

Hi Sue
 I just had a quick look at your ad. It is obviously not written by a real estate agent, which is probably a good thing. I could have used fewer exclamation points! Maybe for next time bullet points would make it easier/quicker to scan.  The fact that you use the garage for storage is of no interest to me, as your propective buyer. I would be more interested in the size, perhaps. The price was way at the bottom - I did not see it prominently displayed.
I did not care for the picture. One's eye is drawn to the brick wall. I found it hard to look past the wall to find the little bit of house I could see behind the trees. I think that if you don't have a really attractive picture you are better off not having one at all. I think you can put multiple pictures  - how about an interior shot or two? the deck? the neighborhood? 
I read this over and it sounds really critical. Sorry! I am trying to be helpful. 
So, I hope this helps. Read your ad again and try to pretend you are a stranger scanning through lots of ads and see if you can perk it up a bit.
Good luck
Rosemarie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sue Pruett 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:27 AM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad


  Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other weekly we advertised in comes out today.  

  Here's the link to the craigslist ad: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and putting it up again early Friday.

  I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and having success!


  Sue Pruett
  Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
  and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
  and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/





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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Wed Sep 23 11:16:08 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:16:08 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
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Sorry - just looked again and saw the price at the top. I guess I just started reading the copy.
Rosemarie
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:27 AM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad


  Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other weekly we advertised in comes out today.  

  Here's the link to the craigslist ad: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and putting it up again early Friday.

  I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and having success!


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Wed Sep 23 11:27:18 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:27:18 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
Message-ID: <c34.602d507a.37eb9856@aol.com>

Sue,
 
I like the tone of your listing.  You could get a better picture  though.  
It's hard to see the whole house.  If weather permits, make  it a bright 
sunny day!!!!
 
So glad you are getting such wonderful responses from the newspapers.   I 
received a few from print ads, none from Craig's and all the rest from  
signs.  I saturated the area!
 
Keep us posted.
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/23/2009 9:39:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:

Well,  we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from  
craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but  
we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the  other 
weekly we advertised in comes out today.  

Here's the  link to the craigslist ad: 
_http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html_ (http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html)   I  
would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it  down 
late Thursday, and putting it up again early Friday.

I'm  getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and 
having  success!

Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
and _http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/_ 
(http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/) 
 





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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 23 13:32:26 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:32:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - cragslist ad
Message-ID: <91932.31559.qm@web83805.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Thanks so much for your input!  

It's so hard to see your home you've lived in for 12 years as a stranger might see it - thanks for pointing out things I didn't see.  I don't know if I can get another picture. I thought it would at least show that  it's not a trashed house.  I just looked at the picture again, and you all are right - it's hard to see the house.  It looked much better in full screen when we were picking pictures!  We have a couple from other angles, but they had too much house hidden behind the big tree in the front yard.  

About the garage used for storage - The garage is built into the house in such a way that one would have to use the entire backyard as a driveway to use the garage.  Should this be mentioned in the craigslist ad, or just that it has a garage?  (I've been telling people this on the phone, and they all seem to react like they think that it's better to use the yard for the children/animals than a driveway.)  What do you all think?

We are up to 22 responses - only 2 from craigslist, however.  We may just take down that add, make the suggested changes, and re-post late tonight/early tomorrow.  The second newspaper ad is due out today, and so I'll be starting to get calls from that one, I'm sure.  This covers the area including our home, and just to the south, so it's a whole other set of prospective buyers that will see this add.  It goes to everyone in the Alton/Godfrey area.

I can't wait to see what happens!  OH!  By the way, those zinc lozenges really helped with the cold and sore throat!  I'm feeling much better today!  Thanks!  (there are those exclamation points again - Sorry)

 
Sue Pruett
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Wed Sep 23 15:23:57 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:23:57 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - cragslist ad
Message-ID: <c82.51076591.37ebcfcd@aol.com>

Sue,
 
I'm so glad the zinc worked for you!  I always keep it on hand.   Sounds 
like you are going to get a fair turnout for your sale.  That's the  part that 
kept me up at night.  The inspection days were fun and easy for  me.  
However, I do not live in the homes that I sell, so maybe that's the  difference. 
 The houses are either completely new, or completed re-done...  everything. 
 So, I'm proud of them.
 
Keep us posted on your turnout and try to snap that perfect picture.   I 
know it takes awhile to get it just right.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 9/23/2009 12:38:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:

Thanks  so much for your input!  

It's so hard to see your home you've  lived in for 12 years as a stranger 
might see it - thanks for pointing out  things I didn't see.  I don't know if 
I can get another picture. I  thought it would at least show that  it's not 
a trashed house.  I  just looked at the picture again, and you all are 
right - it's hard to see the  house.  It looked much better in full screen when 
we were picking  pictures!  We have a couple from other angles, but they had 
too much  house hidden behind the big tree in the front yard.  

About the  garage used for storage - The garage is built into the house in 
such a way  that one would have to use the entire backyard as a driveway to 
use the  garage.  Should this be mentioned in the craigslist ad, or just 
that it  has a garage?  (I've been telling people this on the phone, and they 
all  seem to react like they think that it's better to use the yard for the  
children/animals than a driveway.)  What do you all think?

We are  up to 22 responses - only 2 from craigslist, however.  We may just 
take  down that add, make the suggested changes, and re-post late 
tonight/early  tomorrow.  The second newspaper ad is due out today, and so I'll be  
starting to get calls from that one, I'm sure.  This covers the area  
including our home, and just to the south, so it's a whole other set of  prospective 
buyers that will see this add.  It goes to everyone in the  Alton/Godfrey 
area.

I can't wait to see what happens!  OH!   By the way, those zinc lozenges 
really helped with the cold and sore  throat!  I'm feeling much better today!  
Thanks!  (there are  those exclamation points again - Sorry)

Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
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From danfitnessman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 16:19:57 2009
From: danfitnessman at gmail.com (Daniel Salinas)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:19:57 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 30, Issue 17
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Can you conduct a 5 day sale on bare land?
I own a 8400 sqft double lot in Guerneville CA, it is not inaccessable, nor
is it far from town, so I am wondering would it be wise to even try to
conduct a 5 day there.

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> To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <
> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:29:11 -0700
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Trying again!
>
> Is this Edwardsville Illinois? Please let me know.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Huberbric at aol.com [mailto:Huberbric at aol.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:28 PM
> *To:* 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> *Subject:* [5-DayForum] Trying again!
>
>
>
> Hi Sue, I bought the book(per your advice) and we are trying the
> 5-day method in Edwardsville this coming weekend(9-19/20). We advertised in
> a couple of local papers and on Craigslist. I'll let you know how it goes! I
> hope things work out better this next time for you. God Bless, Becky (Jan's
> friend)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Leslie Walker" <leslie at buysalida.com>
> To: <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:22:20 -0600
> Subject: [5-DayForum] fix up property
>  I have a property which is very distressed, i.e. no electricity and roof
> has caved in, don't plan to fix anything, can it be sold "as is" using
> 5-day.  I'll take all debris from the grounds, but don't want to sink major
> $ into it.
>
> Leslie Walker
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Janetislight at aol.com
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:15:03 EDT
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] fix up property
>  Leslie,
>
> I don't know why a 5 day sale wouldn't work.  If the building is complete
> "trash," then you need to probably advertise it as land with an unstable
> structure.  If the roof has caved in, I doubt there is anything salvageable
> there in the building.  I flip some properties from time to time and this
> sounds like something that I would level and put new construction on if
> electricity and sewer are available.  Maybe you could attach a picture in
> your next email.... a slab and foundation is worth something, but the rest
> of the building is a cost to the purchaser to get rid of.  This is an
> additional expense beyond normal rehabs.
>
> Good Luck with this one.  It would be great to hear what you end up doing
> with it.
>
> Janet
>
>  In a message dated 9/22/2009 2:50:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> leslie at buysalida.com writes:
>
> I have a property which is very distressed, i.e. no electricity and roof
> has caved in, don't plan to fix anything, can it be sold "as is" using
> 5-day.  I'll take all debris from the grounds, but don't want to sink major
> $ into it.
>
> Leslie Walker
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sue Pruett <sapruett at sbcglobal.net>
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:27:29 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>  Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from
> craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but
> we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other
> weekly we advertised in comes out today.
>
> Here's the link to the craigslist ad:
> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any
> comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and
> putting it up again early Friday.
>
> I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and
> having success!
>
> Sue Pruett
> Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
> and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
> and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Andy Klee" <Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com>
> To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <
> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:10:44 -0600
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>  We've got our ads running today as well in Denver, Boulder and about 10
> papers on the Western Slope (Colorado).  Here's our Craigslist ad:
> http://westslope.craigslist.org/reo/1388277586.html.
>
> This is a great test of selling a very rural property.  We're 8 miles from
> a town of 2,500 people.
>
> Good luck to both of us.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* 5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com@
> mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee<5-dayforum-bounces%2Bandy.klee>
> =erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]*On Behalf Of *Sue
> Pruett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:27 AM
> *To:* 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> *Subject:* [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>
> Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from
> craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but
> we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other
> weekly we advertised in comes out today.
>
> Here's the link to the craigslist ad:
> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any
> comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and
> putting it up again early Friday.
>
> I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and
> having success!
>
> Sue Pruett
> Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
> and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
> and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "rosemarie-fred" <rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com>
> To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <
> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:13:31 -0400
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>  Hi Sue
>  I just had a quick look at your ad. It is obviously not written by a real
> estate agent, which is probably a good thing. I could have used fewer
> exclamation points! Maybe for next time bullet points would make it
> easier/quicker to scan.  The fact that you use the garage for storage is of
> no interest to me, as your propective buyer. I would be more interested in
> the size, perhaps. The price was way at the bottom - I did not see it
> prominently displayed.
> I did not care for the picture. One's eye is drawn to the brick wall. I
> found it hard to look past the wall to find the little bit of house I could
> see behind the trees. I think that if you don't have a really attractive
> picture you are better off not having one at all. I think you can put
> multiple pictures  - how about an interior shot or two? the deck? the
> neighborhood?
> I read this over and it sounds really critical. Sorry! I am trying to be
> helpful.
> So, I hope this helps. Read your ad again and try to pretend you are a
> stranger scanning through lots of ads and see if you can perk it up a bit.
> Good luck
> Rosemarie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Sue Pruett <sapruett at sbcglobal.net>
> *To:* 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:27 AM
> *Subject:* [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>
> Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from
> craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but
> we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other
> weekly we advertised in comes out today.
>
> Here's the link to the craigslist ad:
> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any
> comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and
> putting it up again early Friday.
>
> I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and
> having success!
>
> Sue Pruett
> Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
> and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
> and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "rosemarie-fred" <rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com>
> To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <
> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:16:08 -0400
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>  Sorry - just looked again and saw the price at the top. I guess I just
> started reading the copy.
> Rosemarie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Sue Pruett <sapruett at sbcglobal.net>
> *To:* 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:27 AM
> *Subject:* [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>
> Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from
> craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but
> we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other
> weekly we advertised in comes out today.
>
> Here's the link to the craigslist ad:
> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any
> comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and
> putting it up again early Friday.
>
> I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and
> having success!
>
> Sue Pruett
> Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
> and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
> and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Janetislight at aol.com
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:27:18 EDT
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>  Sue,
>
> I like the tone of your listing.  You could get a better picture though.
> It's hard to see the whole house.  If weather permits, make it a bright
> sunny day!!!!
>
> So glad you are getting such wonderful responses from the newspapers.  I
> received a few from print ads, none from Craig's and all the rest from
> signs.  I saturated the area!
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> Janet
>
>
>  In a message dated 9/23/2009 9:39:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from
> craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but
> we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other
> weekly we advertised in comes out today.
>
> Here's the link to the craigslist ad:
> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any
> comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and
> putting it up again early Friday.
>
> I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and
> having success!
>
> Sue Pruett
> Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
> and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
> and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Wed Sep 23 18:12:31 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:12:31 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 30, Issue 17
Message-ID: <c27.6aa5b8d7.37ebf74f@aol.com>

I don't know why you couldn't.  Raw land is always iffy.  You  could always 
pull the sale on Friday as any other 5 day sale that isn't  working.  I 
would find out a few things about it prior to running the  sale:
 
Is it accessible to electricity
Is it accessible to public sewer, and if not have you had a surveyor  place 
a future home where it would work.
Has curb and gutter been done, and if not, what the cost would be.
Is there access via a road of any kind.
 
Personally, if you answer yes to all these questions, then I  would build a 
house and sell it.  However, if you just want to get rid  of it, then have 
these things ready for people who show interest.  I'm not  sure that the 
number of people "required" to hold the sale would be as  high, as you have a 
more limited market.  Personally, I'd be happy with a  dozen.  Bill will 
probably bar me from the forum for saying  this.  Oh well!!!!!
 
Good luck with this.  If I were in your area, I'd definitely be  
interested.  I've been picking up some very nice land at less that normal  prices due 
to developers insolvency.  That would be your competition.   If there is a 
glut of raw land in that area.
 
Let us know what you choose to do.  And Great Luck with this!!!
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/23/2009 3:22:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
danfitnessman at gmail.com writes:

Can you conduct a 5 day sale on bare land?
I own a 8400 sqft double lot in Guerneville CA, it is not  inaccessable, 
nor is it far from town, so I am wondering would it be wise to  even try to 
conduct a 5 day there.


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Date: Sun,  20 Sep 2009 16:29:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Trying  again!

 
Is this Edwardsville Illinois?  Please let me know. 
Jim 
-----Original  Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:28  PM
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) 
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying  again! 
Hi Sue, I bought  the book(per your advice) and we are trying the 5-day 
method in  Edwardsville this coming weekend(9-19/20). We advertised in a couple 
of  local papers and on Craigslist. I'll let you know how it goes! I hope 
things  work out better this next time for you. God Bless, Becky (Jan's  
friend)



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>
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Date: Tue,  22 Sep 2009 13:22:20 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] fix up property

I have a property which is very distressed,  i.e. no electricity and roof 
has caved in, don't plan to fix anything, can  it be sold "as is" using 
5-day.  I'll take all debris from the grounds,  but don't want to sink major $ 
into it.
 
Leslie  Walker



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Date: Tue,  22 Sep 2009 18:15:03 EDT
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] fix up  property

Leslie,
 
I don't know why a 5 day sale wouldn't work.  If the building is  complete 
"trash," then you need to probably advertise it as land with an  unstable 
structure.  If the roof has caved in, I doubt there is  anything salvageable 
there in the building.  I flip some  properties from time to time and this 
sounds like something that I would  level and put new construction on if 
electricity and sewer are  available.  Maybe you could attach a picture in your 
next email.... a  slab and foundation is worth something, but the rest of the 
building is a  cost to the purchaser to get rid of.  This is an additional 
expense  beyond normal rehabs.
 
Good Luck with this one.  It would be great to hear what you end  up doing 
with it.
 
Janet 
 
 
In a message dated 9/22/2009 2:50:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_leslie at buysalida.com_ (mailto:leslie at buysalida.com)  writes:

I have a property which is very distressed,  i.e. no electricity and roof 
has caved in, don't plan to fix anything, can  it be sold "as is" using 
5-day.  I'll take all debris from the  grounds, but don't want to sink major $ 
into it.
 
Leslie  Walker


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Date: Wed,  23 Sep 2009 07:27:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again  - craigslist ad

Well,  we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from  
craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now,  but 
we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and  the other 
weekly we advertised in comes out today.   

Here's the link to the craigslist ad: 
_http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html_ (http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html)   I  
would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it  down late 
Thursday, and putting it up again early Friday.

I'm  getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and 
having  success!

Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
and _http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/_ 
(http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/) 
 






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To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days"  
<_5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) >
Date: Wed,  23 Sep 2009 09:10:44 -0600
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] trying again -  craigslist ad

We've got our ads running  today as well in Denver, Boulder and about 10 
papers on the Western Slope  (Colorado).  Here's our Craigslist ad:  
_http://westslope.craigslist.org/reo/1388277586.html_ 
(http://westslope.craigslist.org/reo/1388277586.html) .
 
This is a great test of  selling a very rural property.  We're 8 miles from 
a town of 2,500  people. 
 
Good luck to both of  us.
 
Andy

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Subject:  [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad


Well,  we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from  
craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now,  but 
we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging,  and the other 
weekly we advertised in comes out today.   

Here's the link to the craigslist ad: 
_http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html_ (http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html)    I 
would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking  it down late 
Thursday, and putting it up again early  Friday.

I'm getting more and more excited about doing it  right this time, and 
having success!

Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
and _http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/_ 
(http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/) 
 







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To: "How  To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" 
<_5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) >
Date: Wed,  23 Sep 2009 11:13:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] trying again -  craigslist ad

Hi Sue
 I just had a quick look at your ad. It  is obviously not written by a real 
estate agent, which is probably a good  thing. I could have used fewer 
exclamation points! Maybe for next time  bullet points would make it 
easier/quicker to scan.  The fact that you  use the garage for storage is of no 
interest to me, as your propective  buyer. I would be more interested in the size, 
perhaps. The price was way at  the bottom - I did not see it prominently 
displayed.
I did not care for the picture. One's eye is  drawn to the brick wall. I 
found it hard to look past the wall to find the  little bit of house I could 
see behind the trees. I think that if you don't  have a really attractive 
picture you are better off not having one at all. I  think you can put multiple 
pictures  - how about an interior shot or  two? the deck? the neighborhood? 
I read this over and it sounds really  critical. Sorry! I am trying to be 
helpful. 
So, I hope this helps. Read your ad again and  try to pretend you are a 
stranger scanning through lots of ads and see if  you can perk it up a bit.
Good luck
Rosemarie

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To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
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Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again -  craigslist ad


Well,  we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from  
craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now,  but 
we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging,  and the other 
weekly we advertised in comes out today.   

Here's the link to the craigslist ad: 
_http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html_ (http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html)    I 
would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking  it down late 
Thursday, and putting it up again early  Friday.

I'm getting more and more excited about doing it  right this time, and 
having success!

Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
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Sorry - just looked again and saw the price  at the top. I guess I just 
started reading the copy.
Rosemarie

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Well,  we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from  
craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now,  but 
we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging,  and the other 
weekly we advertised in comes out today.   

Here's the link to the craigslist ad: 
_http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html_ (http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html)    I 
would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking  it down late 
Thursday, and putting it up again early  Friday.

I'm getting more and more excited about doing it  right this time, and 
having success!

Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
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Date: Wed,  23 Sep 2009 11:27:18 EDT
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] trying again -  craigslist ad

Sue,
 
I like the tone of your listing.  You could get a better picture  though.  
It's hard to see the whole house.  If weather permits,  make it a bright 
sunny day!!!!
 
So glad you are getting such wonderful responses from the  newspapers.  I 
received a few from print ads, none from Craig's and all  the rest from 
signs.  I saturated the area!
 
Keep us posted.
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/23/2009 9:39:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_sapruett at sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:sapruett at sbcglobal.net)  writes:

Well,  we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from  
craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now,  but 
we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging,  and the other 
weekly we advertised in comes out today.   

Here's the link to the craigslist ad: 
_http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html_ (http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html)    I 
would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking  it down late 
Thursday, and putting it up again early  Friday.

I'm getting more and more excited about doing it  right this time, and 
having success!

Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
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From damian_colden at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 23 19:23:11 2009
From: damian_colden at yahoo.com (Damian Colden)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale on Raw Land (was 5-DayForum Digest,
	Vol 30, Issue 17)
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If you search the forum archives, I'm sure you will find that this has been discussed and that the general consensus was that a 5-day sale does not work well for raw land.

Dac Colden




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From: Daniel Salinas <danfitnessman at gmail.com>
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:19:57 PM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 30, Issue 17


Can you conduct a 5 day sale on bare land?
I own a 8400 sqft double lot in Guerneville CA, it is not inaccessable, nor is it far from town, so I am wondering would it be wise to even try to conduct a 5 day there.


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>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: "Jim Winkelmann" <jpwcorp at charter.net>
>To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>>Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:29:11 -0700
>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Trying again!
>
>Is this Edwardsville Illinois? Please let me know.
> 
>Jim
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Huberbric at aol.com [mailto:Huberbric at aol.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:28 PM
>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
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> 
>Hi Sue, I bought the book(per your advice) and we are trying the 5-day method in Edwardsville this coming weekend(9-19/20). We advertised in a couple of local papers and on Craigslist. I'll let you know how it goes! I hope things work out better this next time for you. God Bless, Becky (Jan's friend)
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: "Leslie Walker" <leslie at buysalida.com>
>To: <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>>Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:22:20 -0600
>Subject: [5-DayForum] fix up property
>
>I have a property which is very distressed, i.e. no electricity and roof has caved in, don't plan to fix anything, can it be sold "as is" using 5-day.  I'll take all debris from the grounds, but don't want to sink major $ into it.
> 
>Leslie Walker
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: Janetislight at aol.com
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>>Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:15:03 EDT
>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] fix up property
>
>Leslie,
> 
>I don't know why a 5 day sale wouldn't work.  If the building is complete "trash," then you need to probably advertise it as land with an unstable structure.  If the roof has caved in, I doubt there is anything salvageable there in the building.  I flip some properties from time to time and this sounds like something that I would level and put new construction on if electricity and sewer are available.  Maybe you could attach a picture in your next email.... a slab and foundation is worth something, but the rest of the building is a cost to the purchaser to get rid of.  This is an additional expense beyond normal rehabs.
> 
>Good Luck with this one.  It would be great to hear what you end up doing with it.
> 
>Janet 
> 
>In a message dated 9/22/2009 2:50:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, leslie at buysalida.com writes:
>I have a property which is very distressed, i.e. no electricity and roof has caved in, don't plan to fix anything, can it be sold "as is" using 5-day.  I'll take all debris from the grounds, but don't want to sink major $ into it.
>> 
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>>Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:27:29 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>
>Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other weekly we advertised in comes out today.  
>
>Here's the link to the craigslist ad: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and putting it up again early Friday.
>
>I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and having success!
>
> 
>Sue Pruett
>Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
>and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
>and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
> 
>
>
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: "Andy Klee" <Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com>
>To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>>Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:10:44 -0600
>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>
>We've got our ads running today as well in Denver, Boulder and about 10 papers on the Western Slope (Colorado).  Here's our Craigslist ad:  http://westslope.craigslist.org/reo/1388277586.html.
> 
>This is a great test of selling a very rural property.  We're 8 miles from a town of 2,500 people. 
> 
>Good luck to both of us.
> 
>Andy
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: 5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]On Behalf Of Sue Pruett
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:27 AM
>>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>>
>>
>>Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other weekly we advertised in comes out today.  
>>
>>Here's the link to the craigslist ad: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and putting it up again early Friday.
>>
>>I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and having success!
>>
>> 
>>Sue Pruett
>>Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
>>and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
>>and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
>> 
>>
>>
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: "rosemarie-fred" <rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com>
>To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>>Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:13:31 -0400
>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>
>Hi Sue
> I just had a quick look at your ad. It is obviously not written by a real estate agent, which is probably a good thing. I could have used fewer exclamation points! Maybe for next time bullet points would make it easier/quicker to scan.  The fact that you use the garage for storage is of no interest to me, as your propective buyer. I would be more interested in the size, perhaps. The price was way at the bottom - I did not see it prominently displayed.
>I did not care for the picture. One's eye is drawn to the brick wall. I found it hard to look past the wall to find the little bit of house I could see behind the trees. I think that if you don't have a really attractive picture you are better off not having one at all. I think you can put multiple pictures  - how about an interior shot or two? the deck? the neighborhood? 
>I read this over and it sounds really critical. Sorry! I am trying to be helpful. 
>So, I hope this helps. Read your ad again and try to pretend you are a stranger scanning through lots of ads and see if you can perk it up a bit.
>Good luck
>Rosemarie
>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: Sue Pruett 
>>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:27 AM
>>Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>>
>>
>>Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other weekly we advertised in comes out today.  
>>
>>Here's the link to the craigslist ad: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and putting it up again early Friday.
>>
>>I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and having success!
>>
>> 
>>Sue Pruett
>>Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
>>and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
>>and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
>> 
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>>Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:16:08 -0400
>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>
>Sorry - just looked again and saw the price at the top. I guess I just started reading the copy.
>Rosemarie
>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: Sue Pruett 
>>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:27 AM
>>Subject: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>>
>>
>>Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other weekly we advertised in comes out today.  
>>
>>Here's the link to the craigslist ad: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and putting it up again early Friday.
>>
>>I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and having success!
>>
>> 
>>Sue Pruett
>>Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
>>and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
>>and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
>> 
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>>Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:27:18 EDT
>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] trying again - craigslist ad
>
>Sue,
> 
>I like the tone of your listing.  You could get a better picture though.  It's hard to see the whole house.  If weather permits, make it a bright sunny day!!!!
> 
>So glad you are getting such wonderful responses from the newspapers.  I received a few from print ads, none from Craig's and all the rest from signs.  I saturated the area!
> 
>Keep us posted.
> 
>Janet
> 
> 
>In a message dated 9/23/2009 9:39:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:
>Well, we have 20 contacts so far - 19 from the newspaper ad, and 1 from craigslist.  I kind of thought we'd have more from craisglist by now, but we'll see.  The response from the newspaper ad is encouraging, and the other weekly we advertised in comes out today.  
>>
>>Here's the link to the craigslist ad: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/1387903128.html  I would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.  We'll be taking it down late Thursday, and putting it up again early Friday.
>>
>>I'm getting more and more excited about doing it right this time, and having success!
>>
>> 
>>Sue Pruett
>>Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
>>and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
>>and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
>> 
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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 23 21:56:28 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:56:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Update - 32 contacts so far!
Message-ID: <929653.92709.qm@web83811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Well, I just had to let you all know where we stand.  The second ad in the weekly in the Alton/Godfrey area came out today.  We have had 29 contacts from the newspaper ads, and only 3 different contacts from the craigslist ad.  We've also had a couple of offers to list our home!  One man is trying to convince us to sell it to him right away contract for deed!  He's upped his offer by $11,000.  We had 5 calls in just 2 hours this evening.  Still, most people think it's a typo at first, but are intrigued by the process.  

We are so excited -  We are selling our home this weekend!  YEAH!  I'm so glad it's here.

One note - I'll just add this, because it threw me for a loop, and I didn't have the best response to it at the moment, but now that I've thought about it, I know how to respond.  One caller was asking all the usual questions about the house and the process, and then she threw this one out - "Yeah, but there's a lot of blacks there, isn't there?"  WHAT!  I stuttered and stammered because I couldn't believe someone would actually express that to a total stranger.  My answer wasn't that great - but I have realized the right answer to that is - "It is a racially integrated neighborhood, yes!"  Maybe most of you already know that, but just in case that comes up for you, now you won't be surprised by it like I was.  

 
Sue Pruett
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Thu Sep 24 06:16:18 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:16:18 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Update - 32 contacts so far!
Message-ID: <c25.64103750.37eca0f2@aol.com>

Good for you for not hanging up on the "black" contact.  That would  have 
been my reaction.  And congratulations on your number of  contacts.  Keep us 
informed.  It is people like you that keep the hope  up, the excitement of 
the process going and makes ME smile.
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/23/2009 8:57:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:

Well,  I just had to let you all know where we stand.  The second ad in the 
 weekly in the Alton/Godfrey area came out today.  We have had 29 contacts  
from the newspaper ads, and only 3 different contacts from the craigslist  
ad.  We've also had a couple of offers to list our home!  One man is  trying 
to convince us to sell it to him right away contract for deed!   He's upped 
his offer by $11,000.  We had 5 calls in just 2 hours this  evening.  
Still, most people think it's a typo at first, but are  intrigued by the process. 
 

We are so excited - We are selling our  home this weekend!  YEAH!  I'm so 
glad it's here.

One note -  I'll just add this, because it threw me for a loop, and I 
didn't have the best  response to it at the moment, but now that I've thought 
about it, I know how  to respond.  One caller was asking all the usual 
questions about the  house and the process, and then she threw this one out - "Yeah, 
but there's a  lot of blacks there, isn't there?"  WHAT!  I stuttered and 
stammered  because I couldn't believe someone would actually express that to 
a total  stranger.  My answer wasn't that great - but I have realized the 
right  answer to that is - "It is a racially integrated neighborhood, yes!"   
Maybe most of you already know that, but just in case that comes up for you, 
 now you won't be surprised by it like I was.  

Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
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From Huberbric at aol.com  Thu Sep 24 11:33:06 2009
From: Huberbric at aol.com (Huberbric at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:33:06 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-day sale was a bust
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We tried the method, advertised in two papers and on craigslist. We only  
had 6 contacts prior to Saturday and had to cancel. We did get a few more 
calls  after the fact. The problem with this is not only the money we lost on  
advertising, but the several calls we have had from the newspaper 
advertisement  ~ people want something for nothing and have been completely turned off 
when  they have their mind set on such a low price. Even after I explained 
the bidding  process, how it works and what was supposed to happen with that 
low starting  price, people still had it in their heads they were going to 
get this home  extremely cheap. Honestly, it was a rather frustrating 
process. The author of  this book builds this method up so much. Not one person I 
spoke to had ever  heard of it and most considered it another type of scam 
or ploy to get people  interested. 
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Thu Sep 24 12:29:56 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:29:56 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-day sale was a bust
Message-ID: <c6b.5e8670e3.37ecf884@aol.com>

I am of a mind that some properties do not lend themselves to this  method. 
 And if you are in an overbuilt area right now, people ARE looking  for a 
steal, because they are out there.  I wouldn't try this in an area  that has 
a glut of homes below market.  There is just no way you can  effectively 
compete.  This is when you wait.......
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 9/24/2009 10:36:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Huberbric at aol.com writes:

We tried the method, advertised in two papers and on craigslist. We only  
had 6 contacts prior to Saturday and had to cancel. We did get a few more  
calls after the fact. The problem with this is not only the money we lost on  
advertising, but the several calls we have had from the newspaper  
advertisement ~ people want something for nothing and have been completely  turned 
off when they have their mind set on such a low price. Even after I  explained 
the bidding process, how it works and what was supposed to happen  with 
that low starting price, people still had it in their heads they were  going to 
get this home extremely cheap. Honestly, it was a rather frustrating  
process. The author of this book builds this method up so much. Not one person  I 
spoke to had ever heard of it and most considered it another type of scam 
or  ploy to get people interested.  


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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 24 20:10:22 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:10:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Sale was a bust
Message-ID: <115194.18853.qm@web83801.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Becky,

I'm sorry that the sale didn't go well for you all!  We struggled with our first attempt in early August.  If you look at the August archives, you'll be able to see our whole story there.  We are doing it this weekend - and doing it right, all the way!  You were right to cancel the sale with so few contacts.  

Homes in our neighborhood - 3 of them - have sold in the last 7 months for between $87K and $90K.  We believe our home will fit in that price range, as well, because it is so similar. We would be happy to get $85K.  Last time, we started at $74,500. Unfortunately, people thought this was the price we wanted, as it was just not a low enough starting price.  We had only 17 calls by Friday, and ended up with only one bidder - she offered $75K, and thought she was giving us just what we wanted.  

This time our starting price is $24,500.  Everyone who is calling (38 so far), knows this is too good to be true.  None of them have heard of this method before, either, but they realize that this home is not going to sell for just $25K.  They are not willing to let someone else get this home so cheaply.  Now, we may not get $85K, but we are certain we will get far above $25K.  Some of our callers seem dissappointed that they will not get the home for so little money, but most of the reactions are something along the lines of, "Well, that's a great way to sell a house!"  One of the Dr.'s my husband works with is wanting to buy a house this way.  He thinks it sounds great!

If you are going to keep trying to sell your home you may want to try the method one more time.  Try DRASTICALLY reducing your starting price, and be sure to tell everyone all about your home before you explain the process, if you can.  (I know some callers seem interested primarily in that).  You may be surprised what you get as far as a response!  Also, this time we only advertised in the Advantage (I know they have an Edwardsville edition) and the Jersey County Shopper for print advertising, and craigslist.  Our response from craigslist so far has been very little - still only 3 contacts - but the response from the shopper has been great!  Over 20 calls from that, and the rest have come from the Advantage, which just came out yesterday here.  

I don't know, Janet may be right - there may be too many homes on the market in your area right now for you to get a great price with this method.  Keep us posted on what you do!

 
Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
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From DandBRE at aol.com  Thu Sep 24 22:35:57 2009
From: DandBRE at aol.com (DandBRE at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:35:57 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Signs to use
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Hi!
 
I was wondering what kind of signs you use on a 5-Day  Sale.
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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 25 09:48:20 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:48:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Update on where we are 40 contacts!
Message-ID: <395480.58288.qm@web83815.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Well, as of 8:30 Friday am, we have had 40 contacts about our house sale.  We are thrilled, and are looking forward to the weekend.  My sister is coming to stay with the children, and we have a couple of friends who are going to stop by for a bit and help at the showing.  

My biggest obstacle right now is that I've gotten much worse with my cold.  I can't stop coughing this am, and my throat is getting worse again, too.  No medicine seems to be helping.  I know I need rest, but not sure how that is going to happen with getting things done for the sale, as well as caring for the children today!  

My daughter is going to take calls this morning to give my voice a rest, and that will help.

We are debating about putting an ad in the daily for the weekend.  It is notorious for making mistakes, and they really messed up our ad last time.  However, they do have the only Weekend paper in our area.  Hubby and I are disagreeing about whether we should run an ad.  It would cost us about $90 or so.  Last sale, we got one phone call from this paper after running the ad for 5 days.  Of course, this time the price is much lower, so that will make a difference, too.  Any opinions or advice?  We have until noon today to put the ad in.

Thanks so much for all your help!

 
Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Fri Sep 25 09:55:09 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:55:09 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Signs to use
References: <ced.63db46f1.37ed868d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <519F3954C5E54EAF8EC3695BB665A504@rosemarifv6onv>

You can buy blanks (try online at www.supercheapsigns.com) Then write by hand with big fat markers.  Don't put so much on the sign that people can't read as they drive by! Something like "FOR SALE 4 BR $74,500" and a big arrow. Just put them up during your open house times - directing people to the house from the major roads nearby.
In this community (and many others) signs are frowned upon by the local authorities. So be sure to take them up when you are done. Often the "sign police" don't work weekends!
Hope this helps - good luck with your sale
Rosemarie

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  Hi!

  I was wondering what kind of signs you use on a 5-Day Sale.


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Sep 25 11:23:46 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:23:46 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Signs to use
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I used white plastic with metal poles that stuck into the ground and a  
black indelible marker.  I wrote the ad as it was in the book.  I put  up 
twenty in about a mile and one-half radius.
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/25/2009 8:31:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
DandBRE at aol.com writes:

Hi!
 
I was wondering what kind of signs you use on a 5-Day  Sale.


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Sep 25 11:23:40 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:23:40 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Update on where we are 40 contacts!
Message-ID: <c44.32484a15.37ee3a7c@aol.com>

That's a tough one.  One part of me says, you've got your three buyers  
with 40 contacts so far.  Another says, maybe your ultimate buyer would be  in 
the weekend paper.  BUT, they screw up a lot, so that would turn me  off.  
Personally, I don't think $90 is worth it for a house at your price  point.  
JUST my opinion.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 9/25/2009 8:51:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:

Well,  as of 8:30 Friday am, we have had 40 contacts about our house sale.  
We  are thrilled, and are looking forward to the weekend.  My sister is  
coming to stay with the children, and we have a couple of friends who are  
going to stop by for a bit and help at the showing.  

My biggest  obstacle right now is that I've gotten much worse with my cold. 
 I can't  stop coughing this am, and my throat is getting worse again, too. 
 No  medicine seems to be helping.  I know I need rest, but not sure how 
that  is going to happen with getting things done for the sale, as well as 
caring  for the children today!  

My daughter is going to take calls this  morning to give my voice a rest, 
and that will help.

We are debating  about putting an ad in the daily for the weekend.  It is 
notorious for  making mistakes, and they really messed up our ad last time.  
However,  they do have the only Weekend paper in our area.  Hubby and I are  
disagreeing about whether we should run an ad.  It would cost us about  $90 
or so.  Last sale, we got one phone call from this paper after  running the 
ad for 5 days.  Of course, this time the price is much lower,  so that will 
make a difference, too.  Any opinions or advice?  We  have until noon today 
to put the ad in.

Thanks so much for all your  help!

Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
and _http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/_ 
(http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/) 
 





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From atardos at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 25 12:42:21 2009
From: atardos at yahoo.com (Aaron Tardos)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:42:21 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-day sale was a bust
In-Reply-To: <c6b.5e8670e3.37ecf884@aol.com>
References: <c6b.5e8670e3.37ecf884@aol.com>
Message-ID: <006701ca3dff$277e64b0$767b2e10$@com>

What area were you trying to do this in?

 

I'm looking at doing this in Las Vegas and in Boise (for some friends) so I
hope it works in those areas.

 

Aaron

 

From: Janetislight at aol.com [mailto:Janetislight at aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:30 AM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sale was a bust

 

I am of a mind that some properties do not lend themselves to this method.
And if you are in an overbuilt area right now, people ARE looking for a
steal, because they are out there.  I wouldn't try this in an area that has
a glut of homes below market.  There is just no way you can effectively
compete.  This is when you wait.......

 

Janet

 

In a message dated 9/24/2009 10:36:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Huberbric at aol.com writes:

We tried the method, advertised in two papers and on craigslist. We only had
6 contacts prior to Saturday and had to cancel. We did get a few more calls
after the fact. The problem with this is not only the money we lost on
advertising, but the several calls we have had from the newspaper
advertisement ~ people want something for nothing and have been completely
turned off when they have their mind set on such a low price. Even after I
explained the bidding process, how it works and what was supposed to happen
with that low starting price, people still had it in their heads they were
going to get this home extremely cheap. Honestly, it was a rather
frustrating process. The author of this book builds this method up so much.
Not one person I spoke to had ever heard of it and most considered it
another type of scam or ploy to get people interested. 



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From pgcici at bellsouth.net  Sat Sep 26 10:03:41 2009
From: pgcici at bellsouth.net (Patrick Cici)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:03:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] (no subject)
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From Ctreese3 at aol.com  Sat Sep 26 11:48:34 2009
From: Ctreese3 at aol.com (Ctreese3 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:48:34 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 30, Issue 19
Message-ID: <c19.625358ad.37ef91d2@aol.com>

Cannot open file!!!
 
Reese,
 
 
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From pgcici at bellsouth.net  Sat Sep 26 13:07:59 2009
From: pgcici at bellsouth.net (Patrick Cici)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:07:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Any Houses sell this way in Memphis, TN????
Message-ID: <822751.64110.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Looking to see if anyone in the Memphis, TN area has sold a house within this past year?using this method.
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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 26 19:44:45 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:44:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - Hope you're not tired of the play by
	play!
Message-ID: <677814.91203.qm@web83809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Well, we had the first day of inspections, and I think it went very well!  We have had about 52 contacts so far.  We had 15 families/people come through the house.  (These are already bigger numbers than the entire weekend last time!)  We have 3 bids so far, and two others strongly indicated they would be calling back with a bid. They are still not in the range we hope to end in, but I have high hopes that the sale will go very well!  

I'm still struggling with my cold, and I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep tonigt!

 
Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
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From jcrafor at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 26 20:18:53 2009
From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:18:53 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - Hope you're not tired of the play
 by	play!
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References: <677814.91203.qm@web83809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT116-W49E7FC20F70A22F6049E4BAED70@phx.gbl>


Best wishes for you, in overcoming the cold and getting your house sold at a really good price.

JCrafor
 


Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:44:45 -0700
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - Hope you're not tired of the play by play!




Well, we had the first day of inspections, and I think it went very well!  We have had about 52 contacts so far.  We had 15 families/people come through the house.  (These are already bigger numbers than the entire weekend last time!)  We have 3 bids so far, and two others strongly indicated they would be calling back with a bid. They are still not in the range we hope to end in, but I have high hopes that the sale will go very well!  

I'm still struggling with my cold, and I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep tonigt!

 
Sue Pruett
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and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
 

 		 	   		  
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From pgcici at bellsouth.net  Sat Sep 26 23:40:24 2009
From: pgcici at bellsouth.net (Patrick Cici)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:40:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - Hope you're not tired of the play
	by play!
In-Reply-To: <677814.91203.qm@web83809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9273.56141.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi, Sue!!? I am new to the site and we are getting ready to try to sell one of our 7 rental properties.? We are going to do this one at a time.? Just wondering what area of the country you reside.? We are in the Memphis area and are wondering if anyone has sold anything lately using this plan.? Sounds like you are getting a lot of interest from doing this.? Will you update us tomorrow on how it goes?
?
I see that you are a "charlotte mason girl" so I am assuming that you homeschool.? We homeschool as well.? It's always nice to come across another homeschool family.

?
Joyfully,
?
Gina Cici

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From: Sue Pruett <sapruett at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - Hope you're not tired of the play by play!
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 6:44 PM





Well, we had the first day of inspections, and I think it went very well!? We have had about 52 contacts so far.? We had 15 families/people come through the house.? (These are already bigger numbers than the entire weekend last time!)? We have 3 bids so far, and two others strongly indicated they would be calling back with a bid. They are still not in the range we hope to end in, but I have high hopes that the sale will go very well!? 

I'm still struggling with my cold, and I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep tonigt!

?
Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
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From pinecresthome at aol.com  Sat Sep 26 19:37:10 2009
From: pinecresthome at aol.com (pinecresthome at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:37:10 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] My experiences with the 5 day Sale and the stretched
 sale with the gigantic sign
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I have always believed in the effectiveness of the forces of the free markets and unconventional marketing ideas so when I saw Mr Effros book I bought it convinced his method would work to sell any house. We followed all his advice including the price, newspaper ads, no address, street signs, etc. except that in Craig?s list we added more information about our house then he recommended on his Third Edition, latter I learned in the 5 day forum he is OK with this.

We had 19 calls by Friday so we called / e-mailed everybody and postponed it a week. the second week was still not enough?so we postponed again. We only had about 5 families on Saturday, so I made a double sided gigantic sign about 4 X 5 following Mr Effros format and paid a guy to hold it on US 1, a really busy street, the phone rang every 5 minutes and about 30 families visited our house, most loved it but we did not get a single bid.?

The huge street sign was so successful that we continued doing it every Sunday for about a month,?we also continued posting on Craig?s List everyday. We naturally had to change the line "the house will be sold Sunday night" to "The House will be sold in a month to the highest bidder, BUY IT NOW * You can make a preemptive offer, if it is acceptable to us we will cancel the Bidding."?again we had a lot of activity but only one offer for $500 over the bidding price.

I am certain the 5 day method works even in the current market=2
0conditions but I believe it does not work on high end houses at this moment.

I listed my house on the MLS with a nation wide service company for $79,? it includes 6 months Showcase listing on Realtor.com, description up to 2500 characters, virtual tour, 25 photos and the best part is that the e-mails and the phone calls go directly to me.

I am sharing this information because I am very satisfied with the service and I noticed a lot of people in the forum ask about this services, I believe eventually almost everybody will use only ?Buyer?s Realtors?, We are currently offering a 4 % commission, about $48,000 to motivate them .

I have no business relationship or any economic benefit from recommending this company, if you want to get their name see my house on Realtor.com, better yet please buy it! it?s a wonderful home.




http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/6830-Sw-104Th-St_Pinecrest_FL_33156_1112495503




If you want to see more pictures go to:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinecrest_home/sets/




I intent to flip houses after I sell our house and I will certainly try the 5 day process again.

Thanks to everybody that has participated in the forum for your invaluable insights and information.?

Thanks to Mr. Effros for the 5 day method and specially for providing this Forum.




David Uribe






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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sun Sep 27 09:17:24 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:17:24 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again - Hope you're not tired of the play
	by play!
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WTG!!!  One question..... WHY ARE PEOPLE GETTING OUT OF YOUR HOUSE  WITHOUT 
BIDDING?
 
Ok, that was a little loud and uncalled for.  Everyone who came to my  
inspections left a bid.  They couldn't leave unless they bid.   lol
 
Glad your sale is going much better this time.
 
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 9/26/2009 6:45:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:

Well,  we had the first day of inspections, and I think it went very well!  
We  have had about 52 contacts so far.  We had 15 families/people come  thr
ough the house.  (These are already bigger numbers than the entire  weekend 
last time!)  We have 3 bids so far, and two others strongly  indicated they 
would be calling back with a bid. They are still not in the  range we hope 
to end in, but I have high hopes that the sale will go very  well!  

I'm still struggling with my cold, and I'm looking forward  to a good 
night's sleep tonigt!

Sue Pruett
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(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
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From Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com  Sun Sep 27 09:38:38 2009
From: Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com (Andy Klee)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:38:38 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] My experiences with the 5 day Sale and the
	stretched sale with the gigantic sign
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We're doing a high-end sale this weekend also.  I'll report in on the results soon.  Let's just say that yesterday we had three times as many showings as we did all summer with a realtor.  

David, any idea what comps have sold for recently in your area.

Great advice on using the $79 service.  Can you share what service you used?

Andy 
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  From: 5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]On Behalf Of pinecresthome at aol.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:37 PM
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
  Subject: [5-DayForum] My experiences with the 5 day Sale and the stretched sale with the gigantic sign


  I have always believed in the effectiveness of the forces of the free markets and unconventional marketing ideas so when I saw Mr Effros book I bought it convinced his method would work to sell any house. We followed all his advice including the price, newspaper ads, no address, street signs, etc. except that in Craig?s list we added more information about our house then he recommended on his Third Edition, latter I learned in the 5 day forum he is OK with this.
  We had 19 calls by Friday so we called / e-mailed everybody and postponed it a week. the second week was still not enough so we postponed again. We only had about 5 families on Saturday, so I made a double sided gigantic sign about 4 X 5 following Mr Effros format and paid a guy to hold it on US 1, a really busy street, the phone rang every 5 minutes and about 30 families visited our house, most loved it but we did not get a single bid. 
  The huge street sign was so successful that we continued doing it every Sunday for about a month, we also continued posting on Craig?s List everyday. We naturally had to change the line "the house will be sold Sunday night" to "The House will be sold in a month to the highest bidder, BUY IT NOW * You can make a preemptive offer, if it is acceptable to us we will cancel the Bidding." again we had a lot of activity but only one offer for $500 over the bidding price.
  I am certain the 5 day method works even in the current market conditions but I believe it does not work on high end houses at this moment.
  I listed my house on the MLS with a nation wide service company for $79,  it includes 6 months Showcase listing on Realtor.com, description up to 2500 characters, virtual tour, 25 photos and the best part is that the e-mails and the phone calls go directly to me.
  I am sharing this information because I am very satisfied with the service and I noticed a lot of people in the forum ask about this services, I believe eventually almost everybody will use only ?Buyer?s Realtors?, We are currently offering a 4 % commission, about $48,000 to motivate them .
  I have no business relationship or any economic benefit from recommending this company, if you want to get their name see my house on Realtor.com, better yet please buy it! it?s a wonderful home.


  http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/6830-Sw-104Th-St_Pinecrest_FL_33156_1112495503


  If you want to see more pictures go to:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinecrest_home/sets/


  I intent to flip houses after I sell our house and I will certainly try the 5 day proce ss again.
  Thanks to everybody that has participated in the forum for your invaluable insights and information. 
  Thanks to Mr. Effros for the 5 day method and specially for providing this Forum.


  David Uribe

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From pgcici at bellsouth.net  Sun Sep 27 11:42:15 2009
From: pgcici at bellsouth.net (Patrick Cici)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:42:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] My experiences with the 5 day Sale and the
	stretched sale with the gigantic sign
In-Reply-To: <8CC0D196700E932-483C-107F3@webmail-m034.sysops.aol.com>
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Thank you for sharing the information, David.? Your house is absolutely gorgeous!!!!? I wish I were in the position to buy it.? How long have you had it on the market?? Maybe this method doesn't work well in that price range of house.? Seems that someone who is in the position to afford it, wouldn't go to the trouble of an auction style sell.? They may be a little skeptical and think it's a lengthy process.? Of course we know it's not, but they may not be educated on this type of sale, and may not take the time to find out.? They may just rather see what they like and make an offer.? We did use the same service you are using to sell our personal home this summer.? It was great!!? The gentleman we used was local and very easy to work with.? We sold our house in 13 days.? It was fabulous!!? My mother is a home stager, so I already knew the things I needed to do to get it in showable condition.? I didn't feel like I needed a "selling agent".
?
We did sell a house that we bought to fix and flip a few years ago using the 5-day method.? We didn't get to our selling price with the bidding, but it brought us a buyer.? We were able to negotiate to get to our bottom line price.? We didn't really make a profit, but it allowed us to get out from under it without having to carry the mortgage any longer.? We had purchased right before the downturn of the market, so it was really bad timing on our part.
?
About your house, again, have you considered dropping the price below the 1.2.? Your house should sell based on what I've seen of it.? That means the only thing it can be is the price.? Every time you lower, you open up to more potential buyers.? I am certainly not an expert, and it may be that you just listed it or reduced it to 1.2, but just seems that's the only thing left to try.? Just my thoughts.? Hope all goes well with your sale.? Keep us posted.? Selling homes is very frustrating right now.? There seems to be no rhyme or reason to what is selling and what is not.? It's sporadic.? Hang in there!
?
Joyfully,
?
Gina Cici

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, pinecresthome at aol.com <pinecresthome at aol.com> wrote:


From: pinecresthome at aol.com <pinecresthome at aol.com>
Subject: [5-DayForum] My experiences with the 5 day Sale and the stretched sale with the gigantic sign
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 6:37 PM






I have always believed in the effectiveness of the forces of the free markets and unconventional marketing ideas so when I saw Mr Effros book I bought it convinced his method would work to sell any house. We followed all his advice including the price, newspaper ads, no address, street signs, etc. except that in Craig?s list we added more information about our house then he recommended on his Third Edition, latter I learned in the 5 day forum he is OK with this.
We had 19 calls by Friday so we called / e-mailed everybody and postponed it a week. the second week was still not enough?so we postponed again. We only had about 5 families on Saturday, so I made a double sided gigantic sign about 4 X 5 following Mr Effros format and paid a guy to hold it on US 1, a really busy street, the phone rang every 5 minutes and about 30 families visited our house, most loved it but we did not get a single bid.?
The huge street sign was so successful that we continued doing it every Sunday for about a month,?we also continued posting on Craig?s List everyday. We naturally had to change the line "the house will be sold Sunday night" to "The House will be sold in a month to the highest bidder, BUY IT NOW * You can make a preemptive offer, if it is acceptable to us we will cancel the Bidding."?again we had a lot of activity but only one offer for $500 over the bidding price.
I am certain the 5 day method works even in the current market conditions but I believe it does not work on high end houses at this moment.
I listed my house on the MLS with a nation wide service company for $79,? it includes 6 months Showcase listing on Realtor.com, description up to 2500 characters, virtual tour, 25 photos and the best part is that the e-mails and the phone calls go directly to me.
I am sharing this information because I am very satisfied with the service and I noticed a lot of people in the forum ask about this services, I believe eventually almost everybody will use only ?Buyer?s Realtors?, We are currently offering a 4 % commission, about $48,000 to motivate them .
I have no business relationship or any economic benefit from recommending this company, if you want to get their name see my house on Realtor.com, better yet please buy it! it?s a wonderful home.


http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/6830-Sw-104Th-St_Pinecrest_FL_33156_1112495503


If you want to see more pictures go to:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinecrest_home/sets/


I intent to flip houses after I sell our house and I will certainly try the 5 day proce ss again.
Thanks to everybody that has participated in the forum for your invaluable insights and information.?
Thanks to Mr. Effros for the 5 day method and specially for providing this Forum.


David Uribe


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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 27 12:28:22 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:28:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] The play by play continues.....
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Janet,

Well, we aren't holding a gun to anyone's head!  We've had several people come alone, and needing to tell their spouse about it. One already returned with husband later in the day, but I don't think they are serious about buying - I got the idea they were just needing something to fill their Saturday!  HA!  There are a couple of people who came, but just weren't interested in the house.  

For everyone:

We now have 5 bids - two people called since the inspection yesterday to leave bids.  No new calls yet, today.  I'm home from church, trying to save my voice for this afternoon. 

I have to say, our craigslist response has not been good at all.  I don't know if the area we are in has anything to do with it, or what.  We made changes to the ad recommended here, but still almost no response.  I have had two people offer to buy the house sight-unseen, for way less than our starting price, and several spams about services to help us sell the house.  However, one of our current bidders did find us on craigslist, so I think I would list there again - especially since it costs nothing to list.  Maybe there are more tweaks that could be done to draw more attention to the ad.  

Well, I'll let you know how things go tonight!



 
Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
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From jcrafor at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 27 13:31:23 2009
From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:31:23 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] The play by play continues.....
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 I got so few responses to Craigslist that I cancelled. It was either none, on one, and 2 calls from yarad signs. It eventually sold. The person who bought it said she called because she saw it on Craigslist, but she rents just a few houses away, and probably saw the yard sign. (most of the 100's of emails I got from CL (and still get from CL, are from agents wanting to list, or people telling me where to go to get help paying my mortgage.)

JCrafor


Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:28:22 -0700
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] The play by play continues.....




Janet,

Well, we aren't holding a gun to anyone's head!  We've had several people come alone, and needing to tell their spouse about it. One already returned with husband later in the day, but I don't think they are serious about buying - I got the idea they were just needing something to fill their Saturday!  HA!  There are a couple of people who came, but just weren't interested in the house.  

For everyone:

We now have 5 bids - two people called since the inspection yesterday to leave bids.  No new calls yet, today.  I'm home from church, trying to save my voice for this afternoon. 

I have to say, our craigslist response has not been good at all.  I don't know if the area we are in has anything to do with it, or what.  We made changes to the ad recommended here, but still almost no response.  I have had two people offer to buy the house sight-unseen, for way less than our starting price, and several spams about services to help us sell the house.  However, one of our current bidders did find us on craigslist, so I think I would list there again - especially since it costs nothing to list.  Maybe there are more tweaks that could be done to draw more attention to the ad.  

Well, I'll let you know how things go tonight!



 
Sue Pruett
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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 27 22:38:28 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:38:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] More play by play
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Well, we may be done, but maybe not.  Here's what happened today:

We had a few new visitors - two came in from our signs.  We had a total of 60 contacts.  We ended up with 9 bidders - 5 of which dropped out during the first round.  We ended with a bit of back and forth between two bidders, and the high bid was $72,500.  The winning bidder is not sure if she will qualify for the amount she bid in financing, as it is a bit above her pre-approved amount.  So, we have one back up of $72K.  This is about $12K less than we thought we could get.  Some rooms need painting, and some flooring needs to be replaced.  This could be done for way less than $12K.  The $85K figure is not a pie in the sky figure - it's over $2K less than any other house has sold for in our neighborhood in the last 3 years - they have all sold for between $87,500 and $90K, including the three in the last 7 or 8 months.  

We are going to discuss what to do if the winning bidder doesn't come through for us.  It may benefit us to make the improvements and re-list, or we may just decide to be done with it and take the price we got.  We went whole-hog with the method, but it didn't work out as well as it did the first time for us.  

So, what would you do?  Would you go ahead and be done with it, or do more/work more to make $12K more? If you tried to sell it again yourself, would you start with a price of $24K?  Most everyone who started out in the bidding had a limit of about $60K, and our winning bidder isn't sure she can afford her bid - so there wasn't anyone in the bidding that could even afford our hoped-for price.  Maybe it would have been better to start at $49,500?  Also, we didn't advertise in the terrible, monopoly-holding daily paper in our area - could we have done better if we had?  (Assuming there would not have been any mistakes!)  To a person, everyone who called thought there must be something wrong with the house or it must be in a terrible neighborhood at that price.  How many people made that assumption and didn't bother to call?  I know these are the unanswerable questions.  I'm all ears for advice!  I don't know if our 5day sale story is over, or not!

Thanks, everyone for your words of wisdom and encouragement as we have worked our way through this process!  I really appreciate it!

 
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From jcrafor at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 27 23:18:10 2009
From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:18:10 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] More play by play
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I'm so sorry you didn't meet your number. If you read back through the (recent) archives, you will see at least a few people who did not complete the sale, listed with a realtor, and sold at a higher price. there were others who decided that they were okay with selling at the offered amount, because of carrying costs (insurance, mortgage, etc, and the 6% or so of agent fees they would have to pay.

 

I cancelled mine, did FSBO, and sold a few months later. I believe I got more in the FSBO sale than I ever would have in a 5 DAY sale, esp since I had only 3 calls on it!

The decision is yours to make.

Can you afford to carry it through a few months or longer, if you were to do FSBO or via an agent listing? And if you can afford to, the next question would be, do you WANT to?
 

You have the information you need to do FSBO, how to close it, title co info, etc, and who knows, maybe one of those people will come back with more money given a little more time. 

 

A couple of people posted in Dec of '07 I think it was, about auctions. People sell at auction hoping, expecting to get more money than they could otherwise, and people go to auctions to buy, expecting to get bargains, and usually do.

 

Someone else had posted that it appears that the high bids on a lot of the houses discussed here are close to 20% less than what the sellers had hoped for. 

I sold for 12% less than my asking, via fsbo. They had originally offered more, but didn't qualify. They offered less, and I said no, so they added a little, and I accepted. 

 

Again, the decision is yours. Not an easy one. Just try to think of all the angles, the good, the bad, the ugly, and see if you want to do it. MAYBE they top bidder can affer you something more, maybe not money, but a trade of some kind--antiques, work, what? If I had known MY buyer had been in the HVAC business all his life, I could have, would have asked for as much as 5-8K work from him on another of my houses, bringing it up to a better price for me.

 

Maybe your high bidder has been a plumber, mechanic, painter, something, that he can use to sweeten his offer with.

 

JCrafor

 


Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:38:28 -0700
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] More play by play




Well, we may be done, but maybe not.  Here's what happened today:

We had a few new visitors - two came in from our signs.  We had a total of 60 contacts.  We ended up with 9 bidders - 5 of which dropped out during the first round.  We ended with a bit of back and forth between two bidders, and the high bid was $72,500.  The winning bidder is not sure if she will qualify for the amount she bid in financing, as it is a bit above her pre-approved amount.  So, we have one back up of $72K.  This is about $12K less than we thought we could get.  Some rooms need painting, and some flooring needs to be replaced.  This could be done for way less than $12K.  The $85K figure is not a pie in the sky figure - it's over $2K less than any other house has sold for in our neighborhood in the last 3 years - they have all sold for between $87,500 and $90K, including the three in the last 7 or 8 months.  

We are going to discuss what to do if the winning bidder doesn't come through for us.  It may benefit us to make the improvements and re-list, or we may just decide to be done with it and take the price we got.  We went whole-hog with the method, but it didn't work out as well as it did the first time for us.  

So, what would you do?  Would you go ahead and be done with it, or do more/work more to make $12K more? If you tried to sell it again yourself, would you start with a price of $24K?  Most everyone who started out in the bidding had a limit of about $60K, and our winning bidder isn't sure she can afford her bid - so there wasn't anyone in the bidding that could even afford our hoped-for price.  Maybe it would have been better to start at $49,500?  Also, we didn't advertise in the terrible, monopoly-holding daily paper in our area - could we have done better if we had?  (Assuming there would not have been any mistakes!)  To a person, everyone who called thought there must be something wrong with the house or it must be in a terrible neighborhood at that price.  How many people made that assumption and didn't bother to call?  I know these are the unanswerable questions.  I'm all ears for advice!  I don't know if our 5day sale story is over, or not!

Thanks, everyone for your words of wisdom and encouragement as we have worked our way through this process!  I really appreciate it!

 
Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Mon Sep 28 08:25:57 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:25:57 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] More play by play
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I'm so sorry it didn't work as you (and we!) had hoped. I am wondering how 51 people  managed to come through and leave without bidding. Did you chat them all up? Did you tell them they could bid a dollar, just to keep themselves in the game? There is something here that doesn't seem right.
If we assume that your high bidder can get financing, can you live with that? I don't know the cost of your repairs, but you would have to figure in holding costs as well - mortgage, utilities, taxes, lawn , etc. I do not think you can go back more than a couple of months to get true comps.
I have had success with telling the high bidder that I need a little more to pay off the mortgage - (true!) and by then the emotional factor had kicked in and they came up.
I do not believe that a higher price will help you. It will sound more like the real price, whereas the $24,000 is obviously a starting point.
Keep thinking! And we are still here to add our thoughts.
Rosemarie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sue Pruett 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 10:38 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] More play by play


  Well, we may be done, but maybe not.  Here's what happened today:

  We had a few new visitors - two came in from our signs.  We had a total of 60 contacts.  We ended up with 9 bidders - 5 of which dropped out during the first round.  We ended with a bit of back and forth between two bidders, and the high bid was $72,500.  The winning bidder is not sure if she will qualify for the amount she bid in financing, as it is a bit above her pre-approved amount.  So, we have one back up of $72K.  This is about $12K less than we thought we could get.  Some rooms need painting, and some flooring needs to be replaced.  This could be done for way less than $12K.  The $85K figure is not a pie in the sky figure - it's over $2K less than any other house has sold for in our neighborhood in the last 3 years - they have all sold for between $87,500 and $90K, including the three in the last 7 or 8 months.  

  We are going to discuss what to do if the winning bidder doesn't come through for us.  It may benefit us to make the improvements and re-list, or we may just decide to be done with it and take the price we got.  We went whole-hog with the method, but it didn't work out as well as it did the first time for us.  

  So, what would you do?  Would you go ahead and be done with it, or do more/work more to make $12K more? If you tried to sell it again yourself, would you start with a price of $24K?  Most everyone who started out in the bidding had a limit of about $60K, and our winning bidder isn't sure she can afford her bid - so there wasn't anyone in the bidding that could even afford our hoped-for price.  Maybe it would have been better to start at $49,500?  Also, we didn't advertise in the terrible, monopoly-holding daily paper in our area - could we have done better if we had?  (Assuming there would not have been any mistakes!)  To a person, everyone who called thought there must be something wrong with the house or it must be in a terrible neighborhood at that price.  How many people made that assumption and didn't bother to call?  I know these are the unanswerable questions.  I'm all ears for advice!  I don't know if our 5day sale story is over, or not!

  Thanks, everyone for your words of wisdom and encouragement as we have worked our way through this process!  I really appreciate it!


  Sue Pruett
  Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
  and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
  and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/





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From jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 11:30:51 2009
From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com (James Fleming)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:30:51 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] More play by play
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Congratulations on getting through your 5-day sale.  Don't beat yourself up;
you did very well.  No selling method gets 100% results 100% of the time.
What you were able to accomplish shows that you understand the method and
that you did a great job.  You are now taking measures to make the most of
your results.  Cheers to you!  :o)

 

  _____  

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho
mein5days.com
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose
llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of rosemarie-fred
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:26 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] More play by play

 

I'm so sorry it didn't work as you (and we!) had hoped. I am wondering how
51 people  managed to come through and leave without bidding. Did you chat
them all up? Did you tell them they could bid a dollar, just to keep
themselves in the game? There is something here that doesn't seem right.

If we assume that your high bidder can get financing, can you live with
that? I don't know the cost of your repairs, but you would have to figure in
holding costs as well - mortgage, utilities, taxes, lawn , etc. I do not
think you can go back more than a couple of months to get true comps.

I have had success with telling the high bidder that I need a little more to
pay off the mortgage - (true!) and by then the emotional factor had kicked
in and they came up.

I do not believe that a higher price will help you. It will sound more like
the real price, whereas the $24,000 is obviously a starting point.

Keep thinking! And we are still here to add our thoughts.

Rosemarie

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sue Pruett <mailto:sapruett at sbcglobal.net>  

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 10:38 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] More play by play

 

Well, we may be done, but maybe not.  Here's what happened today:

We had a few new visitors - two came in from our signs.  We had a total of
60 contacts.  We ended up with 9 bidders - 5 of which dropped out during the
first round.  We ended with a bit of back and forth between two bidders, and
the high bid was $72,500.  The winning bidder is not sure if she will
qualify for the amount she bid in financing, as it is a bit above her
pre-approved amount.  So, we have one back up of $72K.  This is about $12K
less than we thought we could get.  Some rooms need painting, and some
flooring needs to be replaced.  This could be done for way less than $12K.
The $85K figure is not a pie in the sky figure - it's over $2K less than any
other house has sold for in our neighborhood in the last 3 years - they have
all sold for between $87,500 and $90K, including the three in the last 7 or
8 months.  

We are going to discuss what to do if the winning bidder doesn't come
through for us.  It may benefit us to make the improvements and re-list, or
we may just decide to be done with it and take the price we got.  We went
whole-hog with the method, but it didn't work out as well as it did the
first time for us.  

So, what would you do?  Would you go ahead and be done with it, or do
more/work more to make $12K more? If you tried to sell it again yourself,
would you start with a price of $24K?  Most everyone who started out in the
bidding had a limit of about $60K, and our winning bidder isn't sure she can
afford her bid - so there wasn't anyone in the bidding that could even
afford our hoped-for price.  Maybe it would have been better to start at
$49,500?  Also, we didn't advertise in the terrible, monopoly-holding daily
paper in our area - could we have done better if we had?  (Assuming there
would not have been any mistakes!)  To a person, everyone who called thought
there must be something wrong with the house or it must be in a terrible
neighborhood at that price.  How many people made that assumption and didn't
bother to call?  I know these are the unanswerable questions.  I'm all ears
for advice!  I don't know if our 5day sale story is over, or not!

Thanks, everyone for your words of wisdom and encouragement as we have
worked our way through this process!  I really appreciate it!

 

Sue Pruett

Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/

and  <http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/> http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com

and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/

 

 


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From damian_colden at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 28 12:25:17 2009
From: damian_colden at yahoo.com (Damian Colden)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:25:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] More play by play
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Is the high bidder a first-time buyer that is qualified to apply for the tax credit? Would they be willing to assign this credit to you as part of the deal? This assumes they can get qualified for the mortgage to begin with.

 Dac Colden




________________________________
From: James Fleming <jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:30:51 AM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] More play by play

 
Congratulations on getting through your
5-day sale.  Don?t beat yourself up; you did very well.  No
selling method gets 100% results 100% of the time.  What you were able to accomplish
shows that you understand the method and that you did a great job.  You
are now taking measures to make the most of your results.  Cheers to
you!  :o)
 

________________________________
 
From:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of rosemarie-fred
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009
5:26 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in
5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] More
play by play
 
I'm so sorry it didn't work as you (and we!)
had hoped. I am wondering how 51 people  managed to come through and
leave without bidding. Did you chat them all up? Did you tell them they could
bid a dollar, just to keep themselves in the game? There is something here that
doesn't seem right.
If we assume that your high bidder can get
financing, can you live with that? I don't know the cost of your repairs, but
you would have to figure in holding costs as well - mortgage, utilities, taxes,
lawn , etc. I do not think you can go back more than a couple of months to get
true comps.
I have had success with telling the high
bidder that I need a little more to pay off the mortgage - (true!) and by then
the emotional factor had kicked in and they came up.
I do not believe that a higher price will
help you. It will sound more like the real price, whereas the $24,000 is
obviously a starting point.
Keep thinking! And we are still here to add
our thoughts.
Rosemarie
>
>>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>>
>From:Sue Pruett 
>>
>To:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>>
>Sent:Sunday, September
>27, 2009 10:38 PM
>>
>Subject:[5-DayForum] More
>play by play
>>
> 
>>
>Well, we may be done, but maybe not.  Here's what happened today:
>
>>We had a few new visitors - two came in from our signs.  We had a total of
>60 contacts.  We ended up with 9 bidders - 5 of which dropped out during
>the first round.  We ended with a bit of back and forth between two
>bidders, and the high bid was $72,500.  The winning bidder is not sure if
>she will qualify for the amount she bid in financing, as it is a bit above her
>pre-approved amount.  So, we have one back up of $72K.  This is about
>$12K less than we thought we could get.  Some rooms need painting, and
>some flooring needs to be replaced.  This could be done for way less than
>$12K.  The $85K figure is not a pie in the sky figure - it's over $2K less
>than any other house has sold for in our neighborhood in the last 3 years - they
>have all sold for between $87,500 and $90K, including the three in the last 7
>or 8 months.  
>
>>We are going to discuss what to do if the winning bidder doesn't come through
>for us.  It may benefit us to make the improvements and re-list, or we may
>just decide to be done with it and take the price we got.  We went
>whole-hog with the method, but it didn't work out as well as it did the first
>time for us.  
>
>>So, what would you do?  Would you go ahead and be done with it, or do
>more/work more to make $12K more? If you tried to sell it again yourself, would
>you start with a price of $24K?  Most everyone who started out in the
>bidding had a limit of about $60K, and our winning bidder isn't sure she can
>afford her bid - so there wasn't anyone in the bidding that could even afford
>our hoped-for price.  Maybe it would have been better to start at
>$49,500?  Also, we didn't advertise in the terrible, monopoly-holding
>daily paper in our area - could we have done better if we had?  (Assuming
>there would not have been any mistakes!)  To a person, everyone who called
>thought there must be something wrong with the house or it must be in a
>terrible neighborhood at that price.  How many people made that assumption
>and didn't bother to call?  I know these are the unanswerable questions. 
>I'm all ears for advice!  I don't know if our 5day sale story is over, or
>not!
>
>>Thanks, everyone for your words of wisdom and encouragement as we have worked
>our way through this process!  I really appreciate it!
>>
> 
>>
>Sue Pruett
>>
>Visit my
>blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
>>
>and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
>>
>and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
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From sterbert at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 28 13:36:15 2009
From: sterbert at yahoo.com (Steven Herbert)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:36:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] More play by play
In-Reply-To: <930587.71072.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <783457.83692.qm@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If the other sales in your area required a Realtor, including paying for buyer's and seller's closing costs, (and in Washington state, we have an extra 2% excise tax to the seller), you might be better off doing the math and accepting the deal. Depending on your state and your math, that could be close? closer??
?
Steven
Tacoma, Washington HomeOwner

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Damian Colden <damian_colden at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Damian Colden <damian_colden at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] More play by play
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 11:25 AM





Is the high bidder a first-time buyer that is qualified to apply for the tax credit? Would they be willing to assign this credit to you as part of the deal? This assumes they can get qualified for the mortgage to begin with.

?Dac Colden






From: James Fleming <jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:30:51 AM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] More play by play







Congratulations on getting through your 5-day sale.? Don?t beat yourself up; you did very well.? No selling method gets 100% results 100% of the time.? What you were able to accomplish shows that you understand the method and that you did a great job.? You are now taking measures to make the most of your results.? Cheers to you!? :o)
?




From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of rosemarie-fred
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:26 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] More play by play
?

I'm so sorry it didn't work as you (and we!) had hoped. I am wondering how?51 people? managed to come through and leave without bidding. Did you chat them all up? Did you tell them they could bid a dollar, just to keep themselves in the game? There is something here that doesn't seem right.

If we assume that your high bidder can get financing, can you live with that? I don't know the cost of your repairs, but you would have to figure in holding costs as well - mortgage, utilities, taxes, lawn , etc. I do not think you can go back more than a couple of months to get true comps.

I have had success with telling the high bidder that I need a little more to pay off the mortgage - (true!) and by then the emotional factor had kicked in and they came up.

I do not believe that a higher price will help you. It will sound more like the real price, whereas the $24,000 is obviously a starting point.

Keep thinking! And we are still here to add our thoughts.

Rosemarie


----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sue Pruett 

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 10:38 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] More play by play

?

Well, we may be done, but maybe not.? Here's what happened today:

We had a few new visitors - two came in from our signs.? We had a total of 60 contacts.? We ended up with 9 bidders - 5 of which dropped out during the first round.? We ended with a bit of back and forth between two bidders, and the high bid was $72,500.? The winning bidder is not sure if she will qualify for the amount she bid in financing, as it is a bit above her pre-approved amount.? So, we have one back up of $72K.? This is about $12K less than we thought we could get.? Some rooms need painting, and some flooring needs to be replaced.? This could be done for way less than $12K.? The $85K figure is not a pie in the sky figure - it's over $2K less than any other house has sold for in our neighborhood in the last 3 years - they have all sold for between $87,500 and $90K, including the three in the last 7 or 8 months.? 

We are going to discuss what to do if the winning bidder doesn't come through for us.? It may benefit us to make the improvements and re-list, or we may just decide to be done with it and take the price we got.? We went whole-hog with the method, but it didn't work out as well as it did the first time for us.? 

So, what would you do?? Would you go ahead and be done with it, or do more/work more to make $12K more? If you tried to sell it again yourself, would you start with a price of $24K?? Most everyone who started out in the bidding had a limit of about $60K, and our winning bidder isn't sure she can afford her bid - so there wasn't anyone in the bidding that could even afford our hoped-for price.? Maybe it would have been better to start at $49,500?? Also, we didn't advertise in the terrible, monopoly-holding daily paper in our area - could we have done better if we had?? (Assuming there would not have been any mistakes!)? To a person, everyone who called thought there must be something wrong with the house or it must be in a terrible neighborhood at that price.? How many people made that assumption and didn't bother to call?? I know these are the unanswerable questions.? I'm all ears for advice!? I don't know if our 5day sale story is over, or
 not!

Thanks, everyone for your words of wisdom and encouragement as we have worked our way through this process!? I really appreciate it!

?

Sue Pruett

Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/

and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com

and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/

?

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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 28 15:49:32 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:49:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] The sale has ended!
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Well, after some discussion, and then realization that we didn't have the $2K to make any improvements, we have decided to go ahead and take the bid offered last night.  There is a bit of disappointment, as we thought we were going to get more, but there is also relief that we are not going to have that house as our responsibility any more.  We aren't carrying a mortgage on that home, but we could use the money to help pay the mortgage on our new home.  The buyer also called her bank today, and the financing won't be a problem, so we should be able to close soon!  

Although we aren't the jump up and down, break open the sparkling cider story we thought we would be, we still feel like we had success, and we just like doing things on our own!  

Thanks again, for all your support and help!  I'll keep up with the forum and offer my 2 cents' worth when I can!

 
Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Mon Sep 28 16:19:09 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:19:09 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] The sale has ended!
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Message-ID: <0FCA35FBB7A5454E9EB18733CE6591F3@rosemarifv6onv>

Sounds like the right decision, Sue. I know the feeling of disappointment, but if you can do this, you can have the relief of not hanging on. I don't know about your market, but there is no guarantee that things will be any better.
Thanks for sharing it all.
Rosemarie 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sue Pruett 
  To: 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:49 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] The sale has ended!


  Well, after some discussion, and then realization that we didn't have the $2K to make any improvements, we have decided to go ahead and take the bid offered last night.  There is a bit of disappointment, as we thought we were going to get more, but there is also relief that we are not going to have that house as our responsibility any more.  We aren't carrying a mortgage on that home, but we could use the money to help pay the mortgage on our new home.  The buyer also called her bank today, and the financing won't be a problem, so we should be able to close soon!  

  Although we aren't the jump up and down, break open the sparkling cider story we thought we would be, we still feel like we had success, and we just like doing things on our own!  

  Thanks again, for all your support and help!  I'll keep up with the forum and offer my 2 cents' worth when I can!


  Sue Pruett
  Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
  and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
  and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/





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From Janetislight at aol.com  Mon Sep 28 16:47:58 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:47:58 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] More play by play
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Sue,
 
Right now you are exactly where everyone that I have seen since I joined  
the forum found themselves.  It's a waaaaaaay down market.  Rebounding  as 
the experts say?  Haven't seen it yet in the financing arena for  sure.  When 
you are talking $12K less on a $85K home.  That's  huge.  It's 14%.  Did you 
even try listing this property?  Just  wondering if you had a realtor look 
at and give you a sales price or not.   Not that they are right one, but 
it's another opinion.
 
So sorry, but glad you got an offer.  If it works for you, you may  just 
want to take it.  The spread is more than a full service broker, but  that 
would be up to you.
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/27/2009 9:41:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:

Well,  we may be done, but maybe not.  Here's what happened today:

We had  a few new visitors - two came in from our signs.  We had a total of 
60  contacts.  We ended up with 9 bidders - 5 of which dropped out during 
the  first round.  We ended with a bit of back and forth between two bidders, 
 and the high bid was $72,500.  The winning bidder is not sure if she will  
qualify for the amount she bid in financing, as it is a bit above her  
pre-approved amount.  So, we have one back up of $72K.  This is  about $12K less 
than we thought we could get.  Some rooms need painting,  and some flooring 
needs to be replaced.  This could be done for way less  than $12K.  The 
$85K figure is not a pie in the sky figure - it's over  $2K less than any other 
house has sold for in our neighborhood in the last 3  years - they have all 
sold for between $87,500 and $90K, including the three  in the last 7 or 8 
months.  

We are going to discuss what to do if  the winning bidder doesn't come 
through for us.  It may benefit us to  make the improvements and re-list, or we 
may just decide to be done with it  and take the price we got.  We went 
whole-hog with the method, but it  didn't work out as well as it did the first 
time for us.  

So,  what would you do?  Would you go ahead and be done with it, or do  
more/work more to make $12K more? If you tried to sell it again yourself,  
would you start with a price of $24K?  Most everyone who started out in  the 
bidding had a limit of about $60K, and our winning bidder isn't sure she  can 
afford her bid - so there wasn't anyone in the bidding that could even  
afford our hoped-for price.  Maybe it would have been better to start at  
$49,500?  Also, we didn't advertise in the terrible, monopoly-holding  daily paper 
in our area - could we have done better if we had?  (Assuming  there would 
not have been any mistakes!)  To a person, everyone who  called thought there 
must be something wrong with the house or it must be in a  terrible 
neighborhood at that price.  How many people made that  assumption and didn't 
bother to call?  I know these are the unanswerable  questions.  I'm all ears for 
advice!  I don't know if our 5day sale  story is over, or not!

Thanks, everyone for your words of wisdom and  encouragement as we have 
worked our way through this process!  I really  appreciate it!

Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
and _http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/_ 
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From sbrown016 at verizon.net  Mon Sep 28 00:07:39 2009
From: sbrown016 at verizon.net (Stephen Brown)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:07:39 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Selling home in Watertown, NY
Message-ID: <006401ca3ff1$3876f9f0$a964edd0$@net>

OK so we are going to do it, we are going to use this 5-day method on a home
in Watertown, NY. Most of you have probably never heard of it but it's a
small town next to Fort Drum, a major Army installation and an hour north of
Syracuse, NY. The market here has been flat for awhile but not declining,
the only downfall here is a HUGE amount of comparable homes for sale. 
 
The catch with us is we live 3 hours away in Albany, NY and have been
renting it out for the past couple of years. We figure this is the best way
to sell FAST so that buyers can use the 1st time homebuyers credit. 
 
We just got back after a whole weekend of painting and getting the place
ready. Now it is time to market the place!!
 
 I plan on doing the craigslist test Tuesday night and e-mailing my listing
to everybody I still know up there so that they can forward it to everyone
they know, etc, etc, somebody that knows somebody we know has to be looking
for a house. I plan also on creating a website on weebly.com for details on
the listing. My question is, how do you get your craigslist listing to stand
out and NOT look like a scam? What other suggestions could you guys tell me?
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From sbrown016 at verizon.net  Mon Sep 28 23:15:14 2009
From: sbrown016 at verizon.net (Stephen Brown)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:15:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Selling home in Watertown, NY
Message-ID: <779943.68401.qm@web84103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

So we are going to do it, we are going to sell out home using the 5-day sale in Watertown, NY, which is an hour straight north of Syracuse and right next to a major Army installation. The market hasn't declined like the rest of the country, however, there is a lot of inventory right now. We also live 3 hours away in Albany but we're doing it anyway. I mean what do we have to lose, this upcoming weekend?

Advertising up there is fairly cheap and I will be using craigslist and e-mail fowarding/ word of mouth to spread the word. I still know a lot of people up there so that should help. 

I just finished up with creating a website and am hoping that will generate a huge response. This is the internet age and I am taking full advantage of it.

Home for Sale

Just want any help or advice and what other people have done to have a successful sale.

Steve
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From Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com  Tue Sep 29 07:56:32 2009
From: Andy.Klee at ERPtips.com (Andy Klee)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:56:32 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] Selling home in Watertown, NY
In-Reply-To: <006401ca3ff1$3876f9f0$a964edd0$@net>
Message-ID: <LJEOJANGFMFLOLOODJFGGEOGGHAA.Andy.Klee@ERPtips.com>

Try using big pictures.  For that you need to do something like this--where
the link is to the picture on the web.  You can use free picture sites to
put your pictures up.

<img src="http://www.cedaredgehomeforsale.com/images/front800.jpg"
alt=image" title="image">

You can also find free Craigslist counters to put in your ad.

Are you also going to advertise in the newspaper?

Andy
  -----Original Message-----
  From:
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m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+andy.klee=erptips.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Brown
  Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 10:08 PM
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Selling home in Watertown, NY


  OK so we are going to do it, we are going to use this 5-day method on a
home in Watertown, NY. Most of you have probably never heard of it but it's
a small town next to Fort Drum, a major Army installation and an hour north
of Syracuse, NY. The market here has been flat for awhile but not declining,
the only downfall here is a HUGE amount of comparable homes for sale.



  The catch with us is we live 3 hours away in Albany, NY and have been
renting it out for the past couple of years. We figure this is the best way
to sell FAST so that buyers can use the 1st time homebuyers credit.



  We just got back after a whole weekend of painting and getting the place
ready. Now it is time to market the place!!



   I plan on doing the craigslist test Tuesday night and e-mailing my
listing to everybody I still know up there so that they can forward it to
everyone they know, etc, etc, somebody that knows somebody we know has to be
looking for a house. I plan also on creating a website on weebly.com for
details on the listing. My question is, how do you get your craigslist
listing to stand out and NOT look like a scam? What other suggestions could
you guys tell me?
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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Tue Sep 29 08:54:16 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:54:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Selling home in Watertown, NY
References: <779943.68401.qm@web84103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <307CF1A8CA164598B911A3623B5B9F09@rosemarifv6onv>

Good luck with your sale! We have some houses in Watertown, and the market there zoomed up a few years ago, when Fort Drum was expanded, and I think they were unnaturally high. Not anything like California or Florida, of course, but high for the North Country. Then when they built lots of houses on base for the troops the demand went down and so did the prices. If you bought when the market was high, I am afraid you may be disappointed in your price.
As far as your ad is concerned: I would like to see a picture of the outside.  Look again at the ad in the book. It does not say "Starting at $." It does not say "acceptable bidder." I know you are trying to cover all the bases and be ready to refuse the highest bid. You probably gave it a lot of thought. I understand - lots of people are concerned about that, but your sale will not succeed if you have that mindset. We have seen it on this forum lots of times and it is the same every time. The sale falls flat, and the seller wonders what happened.
You have to be determined to sell to the highest bidder on Sunday night. If you are not, you should not run the sale.
In the ad, I would put the price all alone on that line and take out "acceptable." And add an exterior shot.
We will be here to help you in any way we can with advice and experience.
Rosemarie (occasional seller)
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stephen Brown 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:15 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Selling home in Watertown, NY


  So we are going to do it, we are going to sell out home using the 5-day sale in Watertown, NY, which is an hour straight north of Syracuse and right next to a major Army installation. The market hasn't declined like the rest of the country, however, there is a lot of inventory right now. We also live 3 hours away in Albany but we're doing it anyway. I mean what do we have to lose, this upcoming weekend?

  Advertising up there is fairly cheap and I will be using craigslist and e-mail fowarding/ word of mouth to spread the word. I still know a lot of people up there so that should help. 

  I just finished up with creating a website and am hoping that will generate a huge response. This is the internet age and I am taking full advantage of it.

  Home for Sale

  Just want any help or advice and what other people have done to have a successful sale.

  Steve



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From bill at effros.com  Tue Sep 29 09:46:18 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:46:18 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Trying again!
In-Reply-To: <194885.24227.qm@web83804.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <194885.24227.qm@web83804.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4AC20FAA.9070609@effros.com>

Sue,

Congratulations!

Neither you nor the 5-Day Method can change the market.  It is what it 
is, and it is not good.  It's unlikely to get very much better anytime 
soon, because no bank in its right mind would grant a mortgage at a 
price point at the top of what they are now all calling a "bubble".

You offered this home twice, starting at wildly different starting 
prices--but your final offers were within $3,000 of each other.  And the 
time you offered it at the silly low price, you found buyers who, it 
appears, can actually pay what they have bid.

Your home is currently worth around $72,000.  No broker is going to do 
very much better than that at this time. No billboards, or clowns with 
cattle prods are going to produce buyers willing to pay a whole lot 
more.  IMHO you won't net more than $72,000, at this time, no matter 
what you do.

You played the game straight.  You did what you had to do.  Putting 
$2,000 into the house won't make it sell for $15,000 more.

It's time to move on.  You are doing the right thing.  Close as quickly 
as you can.

Following is a response I started to your earlier post.  I wrote it 
9/13/09, but things came up, and I never either finished or polished 
it.  I'm posting it only so you can get a sense of my thinking--you 
followed my advice, even though I never posted it..

Bill Effros
Author

Draft of reply to Trying Again! follows:


Sue,

You won't have to pay anything for advertising.  If Craigslist fails to 
provide 25 responses by Friday night you will cancel.  If you get 25 
responses by Friday night you will sell your home Sunday for the most 
you can get at this time.  Generate as much word of mouth as possible.

The correct answer to the question "If the high bid is $30,000 will you 
really sell to the high bidder Sunday night?" is an unequivocal "YES!"

Do not discuss the logic behind the answer.   Do not start negotiating 
with someone who, in all likelihood, will not be the high bidder, 
anyhow.  Do not act as your own lawyer or your own settlement agent.  
Simply say "We have to sell this home right now, and we are going to 
sell it to the high bidder Sunday night whether we got more or less than 
we are hoping for."

Leave it at that, and don't get all involved with hypothetical questions 
or hypothetical answers.  If you follow this advice you will find the 
best buyers currently in the market for your home, and you will get the 
highest possible bid Sunday night.

If someone could have gotten you $100,000 for your home, you would have 
taken it long ago.  Forget this number.  Your home is worth a different 
number today, and it is probably lower than $100,000.  The 5-Day Method, 
with 25 responses by Friday night, and the "What If..." question 
answered unequivocally "YES!" will let you know the most you can 
possibly get for your home at this time.  With no advertising cost, and 
no broker cost -- you put it all in your own pocket.

That does not mean the high bidder will necessarily wind up with your 
home for the amount bid.  There are still many steps, and they are the 
same steps whether your home is sold by you, your broker, the bank, the 
Town, or anyone else who thinks they have the right to say "SOLD!"

The settlement starts Monday Morning, and you must be all set to move 
ahead as quickly as possible.  Lots of things can happen that may derail 
your sale--ask anyone who has attended enough closings--sometimes the 
sale just doesn't happen.  This was your prior experience.  Your buyer 
told you she would buy your home for $75,000.  But she couldn't come up 
with the money.  So the deal fell through.  A lot of deals fall through 
for one reason or another.

In the case of sellers and banks, if the bank that has the final say on 
whether or not a deal will be accepted doesn't like the deal, the deal 
won't happen as agreed between the "home-owner" and the "home-buyer".  
It just won't.  The bank, or the parties involved may renegotiate to 
find a deal everyone will accept.

But you will know the amount bid was the most anyone could get for your 
home on the day you offered it for sale using the 5-Day Method.  And if 
you can get rid of your home at that price, or at any other price, you 
should do so, and move on with your life.

Just as with the 2 previous times you used the 5-Day Method, at the end 
of the Round Robin you will believe the high bid is the most you can get 
at this time.  If you are not prepared to take it, don't use the 5-Day 
Method until you are prepared to take the high bid.

My guess is that the high bid for your home will fall in somewhere 
around $75,000 no matter where you start.  Starting very low will give 
you the chance to talk to lots of potential buyers.  Just listen to what 
they say.  No matter what, only one of them will buy your home, and the 
others are there just to give you confidence that the high bid is the 
most you can get right now, no matter what it is.

Julie's Craigs List ad is floating around somewhere, but it's not 
important.  The price is what is important, and the unequivocal "YES" 
when people ask if you are REALLY  going to sell to the high bidder 
Sunday night.

Start working on the materials you are going to send back to people who 
inquire via email.  You MUST save yourself a lot of













Sue Pruett wrote:
> OOPS!
>
> I didn't see Mr. Effros' message before I posted the previous 
> message!  Sorry about that!  I'm not as smooth on this board, yet as 
> I'd like to be!
>
> OK, so we'll do Craigslist starting Tuesday night, and we'll go from 
> there!  The only issue I worry about is that, if we wait until Wed 
> night/Thurs am to decide if we need to do more advertising, our hands 
> will be tied.  The local daily cost us $200+, and got us one phone 
> call in 5 days.  They are notorious for messing up ads, and for two 
> days, our ad did not appear in the correct place.  WE couldn't even 
> find it!  The weeklies will have been out for a day or more already, 
> and we won't have a chance to get in them.  Does this mean, in your 
> mind, that we should just forget the print advertising?  Now, I'm 
> thinking that if we have 25 calls by Wed, it's a go, no matter what - 
> we have our 25!  Am I right?  I'm convinced that Craigslist and word 
> of mouth from the garage sale fliers will be plenty.  So, maybe all 
> the other questions are not necessary.
>
> Rosemarie (I think) wondered why $24,500, and it was Mr. Effros that 
> suggested that price.  We believe our home to be worth $85 - $95K.  
> Homes in our neighborhood, very similar to ours, but smaller, have 
> sold just this year in this range.  If we take the middle $90K, then 
> go to 80% - that's $72K, take 50% of that - $36K, then the next lowest 
> magic number - we have $24,500.  I get this strategy now, I didn't 
> before.  One lady today asked me, "But what if your high bid is only 
> $30K?  Then what will you do?"  I said "There is nothing legally 
> binding until Monday when we sign the contract.  We are very confident 
> that enough people will be interested, that they will not let this 
> home go for so little - they will bid higher than that.  At some 
> point, they will not go any higher - that will be our sale price!"  
> She thinks we are crazy!  I'm glad - she'll talk about us, and show 
> the flier to all her friends and tell them how crazy we are.  We 
> should get some phone calls from them, too!
>
> I've already had one person call a friend and send them our way 
> because she knew they were looking for a house!
>
> I've read through Julie's posts from August again.  I remember her 
> Craigslist ad, but not in great detail.  It's not there any more.  Is 
> it somewhere that I can see it, again?  I'd love to use it as a model. 
>
> Thanks, everyone for your great feedback!  It sure is easier to do 
> this with all the support that's available!  I hope to be another 
> success story soon, and have the experience necessary to help others!
>
> Sue Pruett
> Visit my blogs at http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/
> and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com <http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/>
> and http://parentingwithstyle.blogspot.com/
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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Tue Sep 29 10:31:12 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:31:12 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Selling home in Watertown, NY
References: <779943.68401.qm@web84103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <28E5D2B71D7A42258BE6777DAE6D903C@rosemarifv6onv>

Please read Bill's email to Sue. He makes the point I was trying to make to you, but says it so much clearer! (That's why he's the author!) When are you planning your sale? We live in N.C. but will be going to Watertown in October. Maybe we can help.
Rosemarie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stephen Brown 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:15 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Selling home in Watertown, NY


  So we are going to do it, we are going to sell out home using the 5-day sale in Watertown, NY, which is an hour straight north of Syracuse and right next to a major Army installation. The market hasn't declined like the rest of the country, however, there is a lot of inventory right now. We also live 3 hours away in Albany but we're doing it anyway. I mean what do we have to lose, this upcoming weekend?

  Advertising up there is fairly cheap and I will be using craigslist and e-mail fowarding/ word of mouth to spread the word. I still know a lot of people up there so that should help. 

  I just finished up with creating a website and am hoping that will generate a huge response. This is the internet age and I am taking full advantage of it.

  Home for Sale

  Just want any help or advice and what other people have done to have a successful sale.

  Steve



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From jsimmons65 at cox.net  Tue Sep 29 10:54:14 2009
From: jsimmons65 at cox.net (Joe Simmons)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:54:14 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] Please Cancel My Membership
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From sapruett at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 29 12:47:52 2009
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net (Sue Pruett)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:47:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Teh sale has ended!
Message-ID: <76698.64424.qm@web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Well, we are signing the contract today, and we are looking forward to being done.  

I can't remember now who asked about getting a realtor to look at our home and give us an estimate of it's worth.  We had that done in the spring, and the realtor suggested $106K.  We thought this was too high at the time, and didn't let ourselves think it would be sold for nearly that amount.  We remember that realtors conduct slow dutch auctions, and that's what he was thinking!

After talking more to our bidders - some have called back to see what our final selling price was - we think we really did get top dollar for right now.  Most of them have been looking at homes for some time, and all commented that we did really well with our price.  We were kind of surprised, but we accept things as they are.  It would have been great to sell it six months ago and gotten more, but we weren't able to sell it then, so why torture ourselves with thoughts of "if only..."?!  So, we are moving toward closing, which should happen sooner, rather than later, and we have a back up buyer at just $500 less if this one falls through.

I think we can now say that our sale went 'by the book', and we are glad to be done with it!  

The only thing we haven't figured out is how we could have improved our craigslist response.  We looked at Julie's ad, and tried to use it as an example.  We also took each feature we mentioned, and turned it into a benefit.  (we know this from our other marketing experience!)  Our crazy low price was the first thing people saw.  We only got 6 responses from craigslist, and only one came to see and bid, and they were an investor, looking for a bargain. Glad to have them in the bidding, but they did drop out in the first round, so they didn't really help the final price.  Their bid was $14,000 under the current high bid when they placed it.  The rest of the contacts from craigslist were also investors, offering us $12K or so for the house, without coming to the inspection.  

I'm happy to share our experience with others, and we are grateful for all the support and cheers from you all as we went through it.  We have some friends and family members that are considering using the book for their own home sales, and we may offer our two cent's worth to them, as well!

 
Sue Pruett
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Tue Sep 29 13:01:25 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:01:25 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Teh sale has ended!
Message-ID: <c65.5631cc25.37f39765@aol.com>

I am really glad that you are happy and content with the sale.  That's  
where we all want to be.  Also, since I believe you said you were buying a  new 
home, or had, then the money will definitely feel like a shower of goodness 
 is raining upon you because you have so much additional cash.
 
Good luck and I'm so glad you are staying with the forum.  We need  people 
who, "been there, done that."
 
I hope your closing goes smoothly
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/29/2009 11:54:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sapruett at sbcglobal.net writes:

Well,  we are signing the contract today, and we are looking forward to 
being  done.  

I can't remember now who asked about getting a realtor to  look at our home 
and give us an estimate of it's worth.  We had that done  in the spring, 
and the realtor suggested $106K.  We thought this was too  high at the time, 
and didn't let ourselves think it would be sold for nearly  that amount.  We 
remember that realtors conduct slow dutch auctions, and  that's what he was 
thinking!

After talking more to our bidders - some  have called back to see what our 
final selling price was - we think we really  did get top dollar for right 
now.  Most of them have been looking at  homes for some time, and all 
commented that we did really well with our  price.  We were kind of surprised, but 
we accept things as they  are.  It would have been great to sell it six 
months ago and gotten more,  but we weren't able to sell it then, so why torture 
ourselves with thoughts of  "if only..."?!  So, we are moving toward 
closing, which should happen  sooner, rather than later, and we have a back up 
buyer at just $500 less if  this one falls through.

I think we can now say that our sale went 'by  the book', and we are glad 
to be done with it!  

The only thing we  haven't figured out is how we could have improved our 
craigslist  response.  We looked at Julie's ad, and tried to use it as an  
example.  We also took each feature we mentioned, and turned it into a  
benefit.  (we know this from our other marketing experience!)  Our  crazy low price 
was the first thing people saw.  We only got 6 responses  from craigslist, 
and only one came to see and bid, and they were an investor,  looking for a 
bargain. Glad to have them in the bidding, but they did drop out  in the 
first round, so they didn't really help the final price.  Their  bid was 
$14,000 under the current high bid when they placed it.  The rest  of the contacts 
from craigslist were also investors, offering us $12K or so  for the house, 
without coming to the inspection.  

I'm happy to  share our experience with others, and we are grateful for all 
the support and  cheers from you all as we went through it.  We have some 
friends and  family members that are considering using the book for their own 
home sales,  and we may offer our two cent's worth to them, as well!

Sue Pruett
Visit my blogs at _http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/_ 
(http://www.thecharlottemasongirl.com/) 
and _http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com_ (http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com/) 
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From jcrafor at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 29 13:49:14 2009
From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:49:14 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] Teh sale has ended!
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.....................Congratulations........................

 

.............Best wishes moving forward!..........

 

 

JCrafor 

 


Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:47:52 -0700
From: sapruett at sbcglobal.net
To: 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] Teh sale has ended!




Well, we are signing the contract today, and we are looking forward to being done.  

I can't remember now who asked about getting a realtor to look at our home and give us an estimate of it's worth.  We had that done in the spring, and the realtor suggested $106K.  We thought this was too high at the time, and didn't let ourselves think it would be sold for nearly that amount.  We remember that realtors conduct slow dutch auctions, and that's what he was thinking!

After talking more to our bidders - some have called back to see what our final selling price was - we think we really did get top dollar for right now.  Most of them have been looking at homes for some time, and all commented that we did really well with our price.  We were kind of surprised, but we accept things as they are.  It would have been great to sell it six months ago and gotten more, but we weren't able to sell it then, so why torture ourselves with thoughts of "if only..."?!  So, we are moving toward closing, which should happen sooner, rather than later, and we have a back up buyer at just $500 less if this one falls through.

I think we can now say that our sale went 'by the book', and we are glad to be done with it!  

The only thing we haven't figured out is how we could have improved our craigslist response.  We looked at Julie's ad, and tried to use it as an example.  We also took each feature we mentioned, and turned it into a benefit.  (we know this from our other marketing experience!)  Our crazy low price was the first thing people saw.  We only got 6 responses from craigslist, and only one came to see and bid, and they were an investor, looking for a bargain. Glad to have them in the bidding, but they did drop out in the first round, so they didn't really help the final price.  Their bid was $14,000 under the current high bid when they placed it.  The rest of the contacts from craigslist were also investors, offering us $12K or so for the house, without coming to the inspection.  

I'm happy to share our experience with others, and we are grateful for all the support and cheers from you all as we went through it.  We have some friends and family members that are considering using the book for their own home sales, and we may offer our two cent's worth to them, as well!

 
Sue Pruett
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and http://www.illinoisgreenhome.com
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From sbrown016 at verizon.net  Tue Sep 29 18:40:53 2009
From: sbrown016 at verizon.net (Stephen Brown)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum]  Selling home in Watertown, NY
Message-ID: <937059.40936.qm@web84103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the input, I made the changes. I think you are right, and I defenetly do not want a flat sale! I will be holding it on October 3rd and 4th. Didn't think anyone here would know about Watertown. Yes, we did buy at the peak of the market, hence why we want to get out now. We did get a steal on the place though so we're hoping for the best. We have been renting it out for awhile and would have to lower the rent to keep up with the market. Also besides the fact that Ft Drum built a lot of houses on post for the Soldiers most of them are deployed overseas right now so theres a huge glut in the market right now, especially the rental market.

Here's the website link in case nobody else has seen it. Sorry for the double post earlier I didn't think the 1st one went through.

Posting the craigslist ad shortly, will see how that goes. Also just submitted ad for the local paper, which will go in 5 area papers and online.
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From a.mullens at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 27 21:57:29 2009
From: a.mullens at sbcglobal.net (Aaron Mullens)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:57:29 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Just finished Round Robin
Message-ID: <200909280157.n8S1vmEY013926@intel1.peregrinehw.com>

We are in Fort Worth, TX. We go our 25 contacts barely.  The author says to
count every contact even brokers and people not interested and I did that.
I had 20 serious contact who all showed interest in the house by Friday.
Got 26 total counting Sat and Sun. We had 15 families tour the house.  The
house is worth around 85K, so the starting price was $44,500.  I had someone
call on Wed and offer that much in cash without seeing the inside, so I
thought things were going well.

 

The first person showed up, asked what the starting bid price was and wrote
that down.  The second person showed up and up the bid by $50.  The rest of
the day no one could beat that price.  Had cash offers of 25K and 30K.
Sunday came and no one showed up until 4pm and I had 4 visits in a row.  I
had a cash offer of 45K.  One guy saw the sign in the yard and walked in and
he put down the high bid a 50K.  He seemed to be the most open about giving
me a fair price, and I think the reason is because he did not see the add.
Everyone came wanting something below the advertised price.  The add said
highest bidder and I explained on the phone with each how the bidding
process worked and still they wanted the house for below 45K.

 

I just finished my round robin.  I went straight down the list and no one
wanted to up their bid.  The highest bidder does want to bring his wife by
to look at the house and then he may bid higher, but I need the price to
jump from 50K to 80K.

 

There was another open house down the street from mine and they had it
priced at 80K, which I think makes our house look like its worth 100K.  The
other open house ran for 2 hours and I don't think one person showed up to
it. 

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From a.mullens at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 27 23:08:27 2009
From: a.mullens at sbcglobal.net (Aaron Mullens)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:08:27 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] More play by play
Message-ID: <200909280308.n8S38kid012181@intel1.peregrinehw.com>

Sue:

 

Thanks for posting your journey through this process.  I have enjoyed
reading how well you did.  It sounds like you did everything correct and are
a true champion at this process.  I am not convinced in the process though.
I just finished my sale tonight as well and I am defiantly going to start
interviewing realtors.  I think you should too.  Interview a few and see how
much they think your house is worth.  Then you can decide if you want to
pursue the highest bidder or not.  Interviewing realtors should not cost you
any money and hopefully would be fast.  Good luck with your sell.

 

Aaron

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From erik at clocktowerlaw.com  Mon Sep 28 08:42:26 2009
From: erik at clocktowerlaw.com (Erik J. Heels)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:42:26 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] 4th-time user of the 5-day method,
	question re 50% pricing
Message-ID: <7e32b3a90909280542y6e4e5302qcb484db318f43212@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

I am using the 5-day method for the 4th time.  I've reviewed the book "How
to Sell Your Home in 5 Days" favorably on my blog and on Amazon.com:

* Book Review: How To Sell Your Home In 5 Days
http://erikjheels.com/?p=472
http://www.amazon.com/review/R14QZGX3I9QDSM/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

The biggest difference between the the (current) 2007 3rd Edition and the
1993 1st Edition is the issue of pricing:


   - 1st Edition: "You must honestly evaluate the absolute least amount
   you'll accept and price your home at this level or less....  Look at similar
   homes for sale.  Is your rice about 10% less?"
   - 3rd Edition: "Run ad ad offering your home for 50 percent of what you
   think it's worth 'or best offer.'"


Why the radical change in pricing methodology?  Is someone who is in the
market for a $600,000 house more likely to respond for an ad for $300,000 or
for $500,000?

By the way, we most recently used the 5-day method in 2000 (using the "10%
less" pricing) and had 75 people at the open house.  And yes, we sold the
house for more than the listing price.

Regards,
Erik
--
Clock Tower Law Group [trademarks | domain names | patents]
2 Clock Tower Place, Suite 255, Maynard, MA 01754-2545
tel: 978-823-0008 | http://Twitter.com/ErikJHeels
fax: 978-246-0256 | http://ClockTowerLaw.com
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From heels at alum.mit.edu  Sun Sep 27 20:35:49 2009
From: heels at alum.mit.edu (Erik J. Heels)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:35:49 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] 4th-time user of the 5-day method,
	question re 50% pricing
Message-ID: <7e32b3a90909271735h4d648dfdmfe9b24fa999dec73@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

I am using the 5-day method for the 4th time.  I've reviewed the book "How
to Sell Your Home in 5 Days" favorably on my blog and on Amazon.com:

* Book Review: How To Sell Your Home In 5 Days
http://erikjheels.com/?p=472
http://www.amazon.com/review/R14QZGX3I9QDSM/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

The biggest difference between the the (current) 2007 3rd Edition and the
1993 1st Edition is the issue of pricing:


   - 1st Edition: "You must honestly evaluate the *absolute least
amount*you'll accept and price your home
   *at this level or less*....  Look at *similar homes* for sale.  Is your
   rice about *10% less*?"
   - 3rd Edition: "Run ad ad offering your home for *50 percent of what you
   think it's worth* 'or best offer.'"


Why the radical change in pricing methodology?  Is someone who is in the
market for a $600,000 house more likely to respond for an ad for $300,000 or
for $500,000?

By the way, we most recently used the 5-day method in 2000 (using the "10%
less" pricing) and had 75 people at the open house.  And yes, we sold the
house for more than the listing price.

Regards,
Erik
--
Clock Tower Law Group [trademarks | domain names | patents]
2 Clock Tower Place, Suite 255, Maynard, MA 01754-2545
tel: 978-823-0008 | http://Twitter.com/ErikJHeels
fax: 978-246-0256 | http://ClockTowerLaw.com
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From kennedys7 at juno.com  Sun Sep 27 12:31:06 2009
From: kennedys7 at juno.com (kennedys7 at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:31:06 GMT
Subject: [5-DayForum] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20090927.103106.7154.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>

Dear Forum,
We plan to sell a row house estimated at $50k USD using five-day method in Colombia, South America. Any comments or concerns?  


Shalom,
Keith Kennedy

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From macycles at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 30 01:28:39 2009
From: macycles at yahoo.com (M A)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:28:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] CAN YOU PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM THIS WEBSITE CHAT.
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CAN YOU PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM THIS WEBSITE CHAT.

THANK YOU
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--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Erik J. Heels <erik at clocktowerlaw.com> wrote:

From: Erik J. Heels <erik at clocktowerlaw.com>
Subject: [5-DayForum] 4th-time user of the 5-day method, question re 50% pricing
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Cc: "Erik J. Heels" <heels at alum.mit.edu>
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 12:42 PM

Greetings,

I am using the 5-day method for the 4th time.? I've reviewed the book "How to Sell Your Home in 5 Days" favorably on my blog and on Amazon.com:

* Book Review: How To Sell Your Home In 5 Days

http://erikjheels.com/?p=472
http://www.amazon.com/review/R14QZGX3I9QDSM/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm


The biggest difference between the the (current) 2007 3rd Edition and the 1993 1st Edition is the issue of pricing:

1st Edition: "You must honestly evaluate the absolute least amount you'll accept and price your home at this level or less....? Look at similar homes for sale.? Is your rice about 10% less?"
3rd Edition: "Run ad ad offering your home for 50 percent of what you think it's worth 'or best offer.'"
Why the radical change in pricing methodology?? Is someone who is in the market for a $600,000 house more likely to respond for an ad for $300,000 or for $500,000?


By the way, we most recently used the 5-day method in 2000 (using the "10% less" pricing) and had 75 people at the open house.? And yes, we sold the house for more than the listing price.

Regards,

Erik
--
Clock Tower Law Group [trademarks | domain names | patents]
2 Clock Tower Place, Suite 255, Maynard, MA 01754-2545
tel: 978-823-0008 | http://Twitter.com/ErikJHeels

fax: 978-246-0256 | http://ClockTowerLaw.com


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From skyhighplanning at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 08:13:09 2009
From: skyhighplanning at gmail.com (SKY HIGH)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:13:09 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] (no subject)
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Where in Colombia?

Carlos A. Chica
Sky High Planning, Inc.
7380 Sand Lake Rd.  #500
Orlando, FL  32819
Office:  (407) 352-3220
Fax:      (407) 738-4816
Cell:      (646) 552-0107
skyhighplanning at gmail.com

Coming Soon:

www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com

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On Sep 27, 2009, at 4:31 PM, "kennedys7 at juno.com" <kennedys7 at juno.com>  
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> Dear Forum,
> We plan to sell a row house estimated at $50k USD using five-day  
> method in Colombia, South America. Any comments or concerns?
>
>
> Shalom,
> Keith Kennedy
>
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