From m_lavering at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 10:43:35 2009
From: m_lavering at yahoo.com (michael lavering)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:43:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Re 5 day sale results(my first choice?)
Message-ID: <963808.77999.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Gary,
?
I had a similar experience this weekend with my home in Juneau Alaska,? a house four doors down, 2/3 the size and a smaller mid-street lot sold for $5,000 more then the best offer on my home that is alone at the end of the street backu to the forest.? My home included all appiances, a professional sized slate pool table and $3,000 cash back at closing.
?
While I too believe the 5-day method should work in most markets it simply does not work in Juneau, a doctor friend of mine tried the 5-day a couple of years ago and ended up selling his house (by owner) the traditional way for $15K more than his best offer.? I sold an apartment building last year useing the 5-day but my best offer was about $45K below the assesment.
?
Bill convinced me that the method did work after my apartment sale so I tried again and it was a disaster, I spent 3-months painting, cleaning, fixing, etc. and all I managed to attract were the bottom feeder.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Gary Greier <ggreier at hughes.net> wrote:


From: Gary Greier <ggreier at hughes.net>
Subject: [5-DayForum] Re 5 day sale results(my first choice?)
To: 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 4:11 PM








Hi Tom, It wasn?t that using a website was my first choice but it was a backup plan incase the 5 day method did? not work for me. People up here in Ontario looked at the ad different. They see something unusual and then they run off. Bill Effros said I probably priced my house too high and that I can?t fool the market. Yes, you can?t fool the market I agree. However having the most valuable house in the neighborhood, I even priced it way below everyone else?s. I did indeed price it 1/3 the price to which I thought it was worth. Bill also said you cannot price it too low, so I did that. I did get a call later from concerned neighbors who figured out the ad was mine and they were complaining that I would be driving the value of their house down by pricing mine so low. So no, I did not price it too high. I still do believe in the 5 day method but this isn?t something that Canadians are familiar with so they go on to something they feel safer
 with. Maybe it only works in known areas as my town is very small and is not known to many. I hope to try this again on another house in the city. 
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From tlawooten at hotmail.com  Mon Jun  1 10:17:32 2009
From: tlawooten at hotmail.com (Tracy)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:17:32 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] oklahoma
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Does anyone have a settlement agent in the Oklahoma City metro area that
they could recommend. ASAP!  Thanks.  We're wanting to do our sale in two
weeks and need to move fast.

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From flyingnutjob at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 13:20:15 2009
From: flyingnutjob at gmail.com (Dutch Revenboer)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:20:15 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] oklahoma
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AGT (American Guarantee) and Capitol Abstract are both very good title
companies in OKC that I have used hundreds of times.  Both have multiple
offices.  What part of town to you want?


Dutch Revenboer

Broker Associate
Metro Brokers of Oklahoma
www.DreamHomesOKC.com
405-590-6563

We Buy Houses - www.OKCash4Homes.com

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We Sell / Lease Homes - Specializing in Low Down Owner Carry Properties - No
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>  Does anyone have a settlement agent in the Oklahoma City metro area that
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From adhud at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 17:15:39 2009
From: adhud at yahoo.com (Adam Hudson)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:15:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] MLS
Message-ID: <48697.9770.qm@web53606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

To all those who are concerned about only bottom feeders showing up, you would do well to follow Tom?s advice below in marketing to brokers while using the 5day method.? It?s a good way to add scope to your marketing efforts.? In today?s market, relying on just one avenue be it newspapers, internet, grassroots, or a broker limits your chances of attracting the real buyers.? I also like how he points out knowing your target audience can significantly help you understand how and where to advertise.
Kyle ? your original goal first we spoke was to offer ?real estate services?, not just the internet advertising. ?I think you are tuning your services better each month, or at least what I read, which is great to hear.? Just try to keep the thought of ?marketing variety? at the forefront; as should any serious seller reading this forum.
?
Adam

--- On Sat, 5/30/09, Tom Hoffman <tomhoffman at live.com> wrote:


From: Tom Hoffman <tomhoffman at live.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] MLS
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 12:42 PM




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Thanks Kyle for your input. I have been on this forum a long time and have done many five day sales in several different states and not once, even having been and am?a Realtor(16+ years), placed a 5 day sale in the mls.?Realtors don't get buyers from the MLS, they get buyers from marketing, marketing and marketing.?The?MLS is for?Brokers? to share property information and use the information to take their buyers who they got?through marketing to those properties.?If you want Brokers to bring their buyers then you need to figure out a way to pay them. I would not call a plumber or carpenter or painter and ask to borrow their tools?nor would I ask to rent their tools. One more short lesson in reality, I as a Realtor, would not take my buyer to a FSBO unless they specifically asked because 1. I end up doing twice the work for half the pay because.... I am involved in the transaction the seller thinks the Realtor should handle the whole transaction
 and all of the?liability. Some errors and omissions policiies have limitation on FSBO's 2.It has been my experience that FSBO's often have something to hide. There have been several writers on this forum asking when should the seller disclose defects or if they should disclose. There are other reasons and experiences I could share but the forum isn't long enough.
OK. Now how do I?or would I market to Realtors. I would save the money on the mls and make flyers or personal invitations to the Realtors within a 10 mile radius of the property.
I would inform the Realtors of the bidding method and let them know all bids are evaluated on a net to the seller basis and that you would be happy to ad their fees to the final bid if their client is the highest bidder. It sounds like you are doing the internet, I do a great deal of marketing with POSTLETs and they distribute to many of the other sites. The last tip is to get laser specific about what the buyer for your property will look like. Age, education, income,habits, hobbies etc and direct your marketing and flyers specifically to them. The time you spend brainstorming about what the buyer or buyers?look like will pay big dividend at sale time.
Good luck,
Tom Hoffman- Broker/Owner
Top Priority Realty,LLC
Licensed in Colorado

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> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> From: kylf522 at yahoo.com
> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 16:34:28 +0000
> Subject: [5-DayForum] MLS
> 
> Unfortunately the whole MLS system is about protecting the broker, but I got on there so that I will be on all the websites. The realtors call the flat fee broker who gives them my number. The MLS has a lot of rules that are counterproductive to the 5-day method but that is what I am choosing to deal with because I want the extra exposure in addition to the free sites. My sign is still out front with my number so people who see my listing on yahoo and drive by can call for details and they will call because pricing the house at half of what it is worth is a really good deal. I now have 2 real buyers coming to my sale scheduled for next weekend. 
> 
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From Aaron at eurofixonline.com  Mon Jun  1 17:51:18 2009
From: Aaron at eurofixonline.com (Aaron Stokes)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:51:18 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] MLS
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Tom thanks for all of the info...  Very specific.....

Aaron 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Hoffman 
  To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days 
  Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] MLS


  Thanks Kyle for your input. I have been on this forum a long time and have done many five day sales in several different states and not once, even having been and am a Realtor(16+ years), placed a 5 day sale in the mls. Realtors don't get buyers from the MLS, they get buyers from marketing, marketing and marketing. The MLS is for Brokers  to share property information and use the information to take their buyers who they got through marketing to those properties. If you want Brokers to bring their buyers then you need to figure out a way to pay them. I would not call a plumber or carpenter or painter and ask to borrow their tools nor would I ask to rent their tools. One more short lesson in reality, I as a Realtor, would not take my buyer to a FSBO unless they specifically asked because 1. I end up doing twice the work for half the pay because.... I am involved in the transaction the seller thinks the Realtor should handle the whole transaction and all of the liability. Some errors and omissions policiies have limitation on FSBO's 2.It has been my experience that FSBO's often have something to hide. There have been several writers on this forum asking when should the seller disclose defects or if they should disclose. There are other reasons and experiences I could share but the forum isn't long enough.
  OK. Now how do I or would I market to Realtors. I would save the money on the mls and make flyers or personal invitations to the Realtors within a 10 mile radius of the property.
  I would inform the Realtors of the bidding method and let them know all bids are evaluated on a net to the seller basis and that you would be happy to ad their fees to the final bid if their client is the highest bidder. It sounds like you are doing the internet, I do a great deal of marketing with POSTLETs and they distribute to many of the other sites. The last tip is to get laser specific about what the buyer for your property will look like. Age, education, income,habits, hobbies etc and direct your marketing and flyers specifically to them. The time you spend brainstorming about what the buyer or buyers look like will pay big dividend at sale time.
  Good luck,
  Tom Hoffman- Broker/Owner
  Top Priority Realty,LLC
  Licensed in Colorado

   
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  > Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 16:34:28 +0000
  > Subject: [5-DayForum] MLS
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  > Unfortunately the whole MLS system is about protecting the broker, but I got on there so that I will be on all the websites. The realtors call the flat fee broker who gives them my number. The MLS has a lot of rules that are counterproductive to the 5-day method but that is what I am choosing to deal with because I want the extra exposure in addition to the free sites. My sign is still out front with my number so people who see my listing on yahoo and drive by can call for details and they will call because pricing the house at half of what it is worth is a really good deal. I now have 2 real buyers coming to my sale scheduled for next weekend. 
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From Aaron at eurofixonline.com  Mon Jun  1 17:52:50 2009
From: Aaron at eurofixonline.com (Aaron Stokes)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:52:50 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Why was 5 Day Method you first Choice ?
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How much did you list yours for 50% of value or 75%?


Aaron 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bvgore 
  To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days 
  Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 7:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Why was 5 Day Method you first Choice ?


  ZERO??? My phone hasn't stopped ringing and we were steady at our showing yesterday. I think it's going to be a zoo today because more than half are coming back.

  I am finding it hard to believe that Gary got no response with 200 hits on a web page. 

  Gary, maybe if you posted your ads here, we could get some idea of why this happened. I'd like to see the ad you ran - or maybe you could send a link???
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: tgarter at comcast.net 
    To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days 
    Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 1:03 PM
    Subject: [5-DayForum] Why was 5 Day Method you first Choice ?


    Gary,
    Why do you have so much confidence in the website your repeatedly mentioned when it must have been your second choice to the 5 Day Method ?
    Sincerely,
    Tom Garter
    Successful Seller using the 5 Day Method May 18 
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Gary Greier" <ggreier at hughes.net>
    To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
    Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:06:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
    Subject: [5-DayForum] Results of 5 day sale


    We have prepared everything for the 5 day sale this weekend. We followed the book to the letter and placed the ad exactly as shown in all kinds of media like the internet and local and major newspapers. This cost us $1000.00. Also made some flyers with the same ad and stapled to telephone poles and bulletin boards. This was all done on Wednesday morning and now it is Friday night at 10PM. How many calls do you think we got? Here it is??????ZERO!!       I mean nothing. The only calls we got were 2 calls. One was of course was an agent wanting to sell our house  and the other was some one from the Chinese community wanting me to advertise in their paper. That?s it. They say this ad works. I am proof that it does not. We advertised the price 1/3 of what we thought our house was worth. The internet ads got 200 visits. No one called their either. Even people we know checked out the ad and all said that it sounds fishy and that there is a catch. Since we had zero replies, it is not worth persuing this method again. This time it?s going to be ?PropertyGuys.com? private sale. Sorry for the disappointing news everyone.



    Gary

    Manilla,Ont 






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From Rachel at gatewaytitle.com  Tue Jun  2 12:08:53 2009
From: Rachel at gatewaytitle.com (Rachel Torchia)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:08:53 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] oklahoma
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Call a local title agency. They can probably advise or help you.

Rachel

 

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From: Tracy [mailto:tlawooten at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:18 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] oklahoma

 

Does anyone have a settlement agent in the Oklahoma City metro area that
they could recommend... ASAP!  Thanks.  We're wanting to do our sale in
two weeks and need to move fast.

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From renecarey at msn.com  Tue Jun  2 11:05:56 2009
From: renecarey at msn.com (Rene Carey)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:05:56 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] The add
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any suggestions on how to describe a restored Historic home (Greek Revival style).


Sale this week end...

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From Starlitearab at aol.com  Tue Jun  2 12:47:02 2009
From: Starlitearab at aol.com (Starlitearab at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:47:02 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5 day sale in Colorado
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Has anyone sold a home in the Colorado springs area lately using the 5  day 
method? If so where did you advertise and do know a good settlement  agent? 
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From bill at effros.com  Tue Jun  2 15:53:19 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:53:19 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] The add
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Why not try:

"restored Historic home (Greek Revival style)"

Bill Effros
Author

Rene Carey wrote:
> any suggestions on how to describe a restored Historic home 
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From nrarthur at msn.com  Wed Jun  3 10:59:22 2009
From: nrarthur at msn.com (NICOLE ARTHUR)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:59:22 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] Renting Home with 5 Day Method
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Hello.  Nicole here.  Do any of you have experience using the 5 day method to rent out your homes?  Specifically, I am looking for help on how to structure online ads.  Plan to run the sale next weekend in Northwest Denver, CO.


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From hwgdawg at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 12:07:56 2009
From: hwgdawg at gmail.com (Andy Martin)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:07:56 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
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When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.

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From tomwilson64 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  4 09:03:04 2009
From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:03:04 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
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I don't know what all the experts say, but I know I've worked with attorneys
for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25 year career and I
was concerned initially about this.  Here's what gave me complete peace.
First of all you or someone you trust with your life needs to answer all the
calls and respond to all the e-mails and be present at ever interaction or
tour of every potential bidder.  In every interaction, not to make it the
centerpiece, but always interject looking them in the eyes or assuring they
hear each word say, "Neither the buyer nor seller is committed until a
contract is signed."  This is also one reason why bidders must take the
inspection in person to bid.  Just never forget to insert that phrase or
interject it.  As you do you'll realize people understand truthfully it does
them a favor as well since they could withdraw their winning bid if they got
carried away.  Bottom line is be fully divulging to everyone at every turn.
If you aren't people will not trust you to bid.  Work as hard as you can on
curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to referee a buyer's
competition, not to hard sell the home you're seeking to sell.  If they all
understand both sides can pull out then the wording of the ad is no issue.
No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a cash buyer who paid
me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was closed and proceeds in
my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad being placed.  

 

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Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.

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From tomwilson64 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  4 09:03:04 2009
From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:03:04 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
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I don't know what all the experts say, but I know I've worked with attorneys
for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25 year career and I
was concerned initially about this.  Here's what gave me complete peace.
First of all you or someone you trust with your life needs to answer all the
calls and respond to all the e-mails and be present at ever interaction or
tour of every potential bidder.  In every interaction, not to make it the
centerpiece, but always interject looking them in the eyes or assuring they
hear each word say, "Neither the buyer nor seller is committed until a
contract is signed."  This is also one reason why bidders must take the
inspection in person to bid.  Just never forget to insert that phrase or
interject it.  As you do you'll realize people understand truthfully it does
them a favor as well since they could withdraw their winning bid if they got
carried away.  Bottom line is be fully divulging to everyone at every turn.
If you aren't people will not trust you to bid.  Work as hard as you can on
curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to referee a buyer's
competition, not to hard sell the home you're seeking to sell.  If they all
understand both sides can pull out then the wording of the ad is no issue.
No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a cash buyer who paid
me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was closed and proceeds in
my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad being placed.  

 

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.co
m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com] On Behalf Of Andy Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.

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From tomwilson64 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  4 09:08:29 2009
From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:08:29 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
References: <001601c9e465$75fe7510$61fb5f30$@com> 
Message-ID: <00b501c9e515$8ec57930$ac506b90$@com>

I should add that my cash buyer finished fourth in bidding so you want all
the bidders you can get.  My first place bidder got a little carried away
and called me to tell me he'd lost his job that day (this was almost two
years ago before job losses were more common).  He might have, but it was a
coincidence to lose it after bidding too high!  I was happy to let him out
because we agreed nothing is done til a contract is signed.   My second and
third bidders were real estate agents/speculators and were sure they could
talk me down.  They knew they could pull out and they had to because I
simply told them I was moving on to the next bid.  The next bid was the cash
offer.  In all I had five bids above what I realistically thought I could
get for the house.

 

From: Tom Wilson [mailto:tomwilson64 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:03 AM
To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days';
'5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com'
Subject: RE: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

I don't know what all the experts say, but I know I've worked with attorneys
for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25 year career and I
was concerned initially about this.  Here's what gave me complete peace.
First of all you or someone you trust with your life needs to answer all the
calls and respond to all the e-mails and be present at ever interaction or
tour of every potential bidder.  In every interaction, not to make it the
centerpiece, but always interject looking them in the eyes or assuring they
hear each word say, "Neither the buyer nor seller is committed until a
contract is signed."  This is also one reason why bidders must take the
inspection in person to bid.  Just never forget to insert that phrase or
interject it.  As you do you'll realize people understand truthfully it does
them a favor as well since they could withdraw their winning bid if they got
carried away.  Bottom line is be fully divulging to everyone at every turn.
If you aren't people will not trust you to bid.  Work as hard as you can on
curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to referee a buyer's
competition, not to hard sell the home you're seeking to sell.  If they all
understand both sides can pull out then the wording of the ad is no issue.
No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a cash buyer who paid
me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was closed and proceeds in
my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad being placed.  

 

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.co
m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com] On Behalf Of Andy Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.

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From tomwilson64 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  4 09:08:29 2009
From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:08:29 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
References: <001601c9e465$75fe7510$61fb5f30$@com> 
Message-ID: <00b501c9e515$8ec57930$ac506b90$@com>

I should add that my cash buyer finished fourth in bidding so you want all
the bidders you can get.  My first place bidder got a little carried away
and called me to tell me he'd lost his job that day (this was almost two
years ago before job losses were more common).  He might have, but it was a
coincidence to lose it after bidding too high!  I was happy to let him out
because we agreed nothing is done til a contract is signed.   My second and
third bidders were real estate agents/speculators and were sure they could
talk me down.  They knew they could pull out and they had to because I
simply told them I was moving on to the next bid.  The next bid was the cash
offer.  In all I had five bids above what I realistically thought I could
get for the house.

 

From: Tom Wilson [mailto:tomwilson64 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:03 AM
To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days';
'5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com'
Subject: RE: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

I don't know what all the experts say, but I know I've worked with attorneys
for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25 year career and I
was concerned initially about this.  Here's what gave me complete peace.
First of all you or someone you trust with your life needs to answer all the
calls and respond to all the e-mails and be present at ever interaction or
tour of every potential bidder.  In every interaction, not to make it the
centerpiece, but always interject looking them in the eyes or assuring they
hear each word say, "Neither the buyer nor seller is committed until a
contract is signed."  This is also one reason why bidders must take the
inspection in person to bid.  Just never forget to insert that phrase or
interject it.  As you do you'll realize people understand truthfully it does
them a favor as well since they could withdraw their winning bid if they got
carried away.  Bottom line is be fully divulging to everyone at every turn.
If you aren't people will not trust you to bid.  Work as hard as you can on
curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to referee a buyer's
competition, not to hard sell the home you're seeking to sell.  If they all
understand both sides can pull out then the wording of the ad is no issue.
No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a cash buyer who paid
me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was closed and proceeds in
my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad being placed.  

 

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.co
m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com] On Behalf Of Andy Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.

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From dakotamhh at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 12:12:33 2009
From: dakotamhh at gmail.com (Mike Huber)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:12:33 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 27, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8.1244131211.3954.5-dayforum@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
References: <mailman.8.1244131211.3954.5-dayforum@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Message-ID: <879da5d00906040912o778380c1gd59ae183472e6d15@mail.gmail.com>

Tom,

Thanks much for that line: "Neither the buyer nor seller is committed until
a contract is signed", it is perfect and exactly what I have been looking
for.

One question; did you set up your meeting with title agency before or after
the sale, and how long does the title search process take?  Any advice on
the closing is appreciated.

Thanks much,

Mike Huber
- 5 day sale in 2 weeks!

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> To: <5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:07:56 -0500
> Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
>
> When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
> ?$XXX,XXX or Best Offer.?  That seems misleading with the potential of
> obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
> ?$XXX,XXX starting bid??  Thank you for your advice.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
> To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <
> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>, <
> 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:03:04 -0500
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
>
> I don?t know what all the experts say, but I know I?ve worked with
> attorneys for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25 year
> career and I was concerned initially about this.  Here?s what gave me
> complete peace.  First of all you or someone you trust with your life needs
> to answer all the calls and respond to all the e-mails and be present at
> ever interaction or tour of every potential bidder.  In every interaction,
> not to make it the centerpiece, but always interject looking them in the
> eyes or assuring they hear each word say, ?Neither the buyer nor seller is
> committed until a contract is signed.?  This is also one reason why bidders
> must take the inspection in person to bid.  Just never forget to insert that
> phrase or interject it.  As you do you?ll realize people understand
> truthfully it does them a favor as well since they could withdraw their
> winning bid if they got carried away.  Bottom line is be fully divulging to
> everyone at every turn.  If you aren?t people will not trust you to bid.
> Work as hard as you can on curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to
> referee a buyer?s competition, not to hard sell the home you?re seeking to
> sell.  If they all understand both sides can pull out then the wording of
> the ad is no issue.  No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a
> cash buyer who paid me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was
> closed and proceeds in my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad
> being placed.
>
>
>
> *From:* 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com@
> mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:
> 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64 <5-dayforum-bounces%2Btomwilson64>=
> yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Martin
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
> *To:* 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> *Subject:* [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
>
>
>
> When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
> ?$XXX,XXX or Best Offer.?  That seems misleading with the potential of
> obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
> ?$XXX,XXX starting bid??  Thank you for your advice.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
> To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <
> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>, <
> 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:03:04 -0500
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
>
> I don?t know what all the experts say, but I know I?ve worked with
> attorneys for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25 year
> career and I was concerned initially about this.  Here?s what gave me
> complete peace.  First of all you or someone you trust with your life needs
> to answer all the calls and respond to all the e-mails and be present at
> ever interaction or tour of every potential bidder.  In every interaction,
> not to make it the centerpiece, but always interject looking them in the
> eyes or assuring they hear each word say, ?Neither the buyer nor seller is
> committed until a contract is signed.?  This is also one reason why bidders
> must take the inspection in person to bid.  Just never forget to insert that
> phrase or interject it.  As you do you?ll realize people understand
> truthfully it does them a favor as well since they could withdraw their
> winning bid if they got carried away.  Bottom line is be fully divulging to
> everyone at every turn.  If you aren?t people will not trust you to bid.
> Work as hard as you can on curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to
> referee a buyer?s competition, not to hard sell the home you?re seeking to
> sell.  If they all understand both sides can pull out then the wording of
> the ad is no issue.  No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a
> cash buyer who paid me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was
> closed and proceeds in my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad
> being placed.
>
>
>
> *From:* 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com@
> mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:
> 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64 <5-dayforum-bounces%2Btomwilson64>=
> yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Martin
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
> *To:* 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> *Subject:* [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
>
>
>
> When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
> ?$XXX,XXX or Best Offer.?  That seems misleading with the potential of
> obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
> ?$XXX,XXX starting bid??  Thank you for your advice.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
> To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <
> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>, <
> 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:08:29 -0500
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
>
> I should add that my cash buyer finished fourth in bidding so you want all
> the bidders you can get.  My first place bidder got a little carried away
> and called me to tell me he?d lost his job that day (this was almost two
> years ago before job losses were more common).  He might have, but it was a
> coincidence to lose it after bidding too high!  I was happy to let him out
> because we agreed nothing is done til a contract is signed.   My second and
> third bidders were real estate agents/speculators and were sure they could
> talk me down.  They knew they could pull out and they had to because I
> simply told them I was moving on to the next bid.  The next bid was the cash
> offer.  In all I had five bids above what I realistically thought I could
> get for the house.
>
>
>
> *From:* Tom Wilson [mailto:tomwilson64 at yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:03 AM
> *To:* 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'; '
> 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com'
> *Subject:* RE: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
>
>
>
> I don?t know what all the experts say, but I know I?ve worked with
> attorneys for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25 year
> career and I was concerned initially about this.  Here?s what gave me
> complete peace.  First of all you or someone you trust with your life needs
> to answer all the calls and respond to all the e-mails and be present at
> ever interaction or tour of every potential bidder.  In every interaction,
> not to make it the centerpiece, but always interject looking them in the
> eyes or assuring they hear each word say, ?Neither the buyer nor seller is
> committed until a contract is signed.?  This is also one reason why bidders
> must take the inspection in person to bid.  Just never forget to insert that
> phrase or interject it.  As you do you?ll realize people understand
> truthfully it does them a favor as well since they could withdraw their
> winning bid if they got carried away.  Bottom line is be fully divulging to
> everyone at every turn.  If you aren?t people will not trust you to bid.
> Work as hard as you can on curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to
> referee a buyer?s competition, not to hard sell the home you?re seeking to
> sell.  If they all understand both sides can pull out then the wording of
> the ad is no issue.  No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a
> cash buyer who paid me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was
> closed and proceeds in my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad
> being placed.
>
>
>
> *From:* 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com@
> mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:
> 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64 <5-dayforum-bounces%2Btomwilson64>=
> yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Martin
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
> *To:* 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> *Subject:* [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
>
>
>
> When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
> ?$XXX,XXX or Best Offer.?  That seems misleading with the potential of
> obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
> ?$XXX,XXX starting bid??  Thank you for your advice.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
> To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <
> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>, <
> 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:08:29 -0500
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
>
> I should add that my cash buyer finished fourth in bidding so you want all
> the bidders you can get.  My first place bidder got a little carried away
> and called me to tell me he?d lost his job that day (this was almost two
> years ago before job losses were more common).  He might have, but it was a
> coincidence to lose it after bidding too high!  I was happy to let him out
> because we agreed nothing is done til a contract is signed.   My second and
> third bidders were real estate agents/speculators and were sure they could
> talk me down.  They knew they could pull out and they had to because I
> simply told them I was moving on to the next bid.  The next bid was the cash
> offer.  In all I had five bids above what I realistically thought I could
> get for the house.
>
>
>
> *From:* Tom Wilson [mailto:tomwilson64 at yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:03 AM
> *To:* 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'; '
> 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com'
> *Subject:* RE: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
>
>
>
> I don?t know what all the experts say, but I know I?ve worked with
> attorneys for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25 year
> career and I was concerned initially about this.  Here?s what gave me
> complete peace.  First of all you or someone you trust with your life needs
> to answer all the calls and respond to all the e-mails and be present at
> ever interaction or tour of every potential bidder.  In every interaction,
> not to make it the centerpiece, but always interject looking them in the
> eyes or assuring they hear each word say, ?Neither the buyer nor seller is
> committed until a contract is signed.?  This is also one reason why bidders
> must take the inspection in person to bid.  Just never forget to insert that
> phrase or interject it.  As you do you?ll realize people understand
> truthfully it does them a favor as well since they could withdraw their
> winning bid if they got carried away.  Bottom line is be fully divulging to
> everyone at every turn.  If you aren?t people will not trust you to bid.
> Work as hard as you can on curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to
> referee a buyer?s competition, not to hard sell the home you?re seeking to
> sell.  If they all understand both sides can pull out then the wording of
> the ad is no issue.  No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a
> cash buyer who paid me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was
> closed and proceeds in my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad
> being placed.
>
>
>
> *From:* 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com@
> mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:
> 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64 <5-dayforum-bounces%2Btomwilson64>=
> yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Martin
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
> *To:* 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> *Subject:* [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording
>
>
>
> When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
> ?$XXX,XXX or Best Offer.?  That seems misleading with the potential of
> obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
> ?$XXX,XXX starting bid??  Thank you for your advice.
>
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From tomwilson64 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  4 12:57:53 2009
From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:57:53 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 27, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <879da5d00906040912o778380c1gd59ae183472e6d15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.8.1244131211.3954.5-dayforum@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
	<879da5d00906040912o778380c1gd59ae183472e6d15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <016101c9e535$9a849f60$cf8dde20$@com>

I chose a closing agent with the buyer I signed a contract with after the
contract was signed.  We each completed the contract ourselves each with the
assistance and advice or an attorney or real estate advisor.  I was
fortunate in a couple of ways.  I'm a certified records manager who worked
seven years in commercial real estate and worked through many deal with
volumes of detailed documents.  I also had a very motivated cash buyer who
was a mom buying the little starter home for her prodigy son who at 18 was a
junior in college and a 4.0 pre-med major who was engaged to the sweetest
young lady who was studying to be a nurse.  The mom and I were very
agreeable and there weren't any contentious issues mostly because I had been
open and up front about everything good and bad.  They chose the title agent
I suggested and I admit I called the title search plant myself and just by
having an enjoyable conversation with the title plant, they found my deal
and moved it and did it immediately which saved a few days.  I didn't know
the title plant personnel, but my personality is such that I just always
feel empowered to ask for what I think is fair or to try and more often than
not when you're pleasant and not demanding people like to try, especially
when you share your story.

 

It's turned out well for the neighborhood the house was in because the 18-YO
and his girlfriend who might now be his wife live there while in school and
have fixed up the house more, make cookies for some elderly neighbors and
are involved with their neighbors in the community building I helped start
there.  I firmly believe every day we all have the chance to make small
decisions good and decent things which constantly put us in good positions
with others.  I have many volunteer activities because of this, but I'm
never afraid to do a little more because it really ends up having a lot of
value in the long run and I sleep very well.  They say there is no softer
pillow than a conscience that is clear.

 

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.co
m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com] On Behalf Of Mike Huber
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:13 AM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 27, Issue 4

 

Tom, 

 

Thanks much for that line: "Neither the buyer nor seller is committed until
a contract is signed", it is perfect and exactly what I have been looking
for.  

 

One question; did you set up your meeting with title agency before or after
the sale, and how long does the title search process take?  Any advice on
the closing is appreciated.

 

Thanks much,

 

Mike Huber 

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  5. Re: 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording (Tom Wilson)
  6. Re: 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording (Tom Wilson)


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From: NICOLE ARTHUR <nrarthur at msn.com>
To: <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:59:22 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] Renting Home with 5 Day Method

Hello.  Nicole here.  Do any of you have experience using the 5 day method
to rent out your homes?  Specifically, I am looking for help on how to
structure online ads.  Plan to run the sale next weekend in Northwest
Denver, CO. 

 

 

 

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Andy Martin" <hwgdawg at gmail.com>
To: <5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:07:56 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>,
<5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:03:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

I don't know what all the experts say, but I know I've worked with attorneys
for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25 year career and I
was concerned initially about this.  Here's what gave me complete peace.
First of all you or someone you trust with your life needs to answer all the
calls and respond to all the e-mails and be present at ever interaction or
tour of every potential bidder.  In every interaction, not to make it the
centerpiece, but always interject looking them in the eyes or assuring they
hear each word say, "Neither the buyer nor seller is committed until a
contract is signed."  This is also one reason why bidders must take the
inspection in person to bid.  Just never forget to insert that phrase or
interject it.  As you do you'll realize people understand truthfully it does
them a favor as well since they could withdraw their winning bid if they got
carried away.  Bottom line is be fully divulging to everyone at every turn.
If you aren't people will not trust you to bid.  Work as hard as you can on
curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to referee a buyer's
competition, not to hard sell the home you're seeking to sell.  If they all
understand both sides can pull out then the wording of the ad is no issue.
No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a cash buyer who paid
me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was closed and proceeds in
my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad being placed.  

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/>
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64
<mailto:5-dayforum-bounces%2Btomwilson64> =yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/> ] On Behalf Of Andy Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>,
<5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:03:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

I don't know what all the experts say, but I know I've worked with attorneys
for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25 year career and I
was concerned initially about this.  Here's what gave me complete peace.
First of all you or someone you trust with your life needs to answer all the
calls and respond to all the e-mails and be present at ever interaction or
tour of every potential bidder.  In every interaction, not to make it the
centerpiece, but always interject looking them in the eyes or assuring they
hear each word say, "Neither the buyer nor seller is committed until a
contract is signed."  This is also one reason why bidders must take the
inspection in person to bid.  Just never forget to insert that phrase or
interject it.  As you do you'll realize people understand truthfully it does
them a favor as well since they could withdraw their winning bid if they got
carried away.  Bottom line is be fully divulging to everyone at every turn.
If you aren't people will not trust you to bid.  Work as hard as you can on
curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to referee a buyer's
competition, not to hard sell the home you're seeking to sell.  If they all
understand both sides can pull out then the wording of the ad is no issue.
No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a cash buyer who paid
me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was closed and proceeds in
my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad being placed.  

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/>
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64
<mailto:5-dayforum-bounces%2Btomwilson64> =yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/> ] On Behalf Of Andy Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>,
<5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:08:29 -0500
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

I should add that my cash buyer finished fourth in bidding so you want all
the bidders you can get.  My first place bidder got a little carried away
and called me to tell me he'd lost his job that day (this was almost two
years ago before job losses were more common).  He might have, but it was a
coincidence to lose it after bidding too high!  I was happy to let him out
because we agreed nothing is done til a contract is signed.   My second and
third bidders were real estate agents/speculators and were sure they could
talk me down.  They knew they could pull out and they had to because I
simply told them I was moving on to the next bid.  The next bid was the cash
offer.  In all I had five bids above what I realistically thought I could
get for the house.

 

From: Tom Wilson [mailto:tomwilson64 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:03 AM
To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days';
'5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com'
Subject: RE: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

I don't know what all the experts say, but I know I've worked with attorneys
for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25 year career and I
was concerned initially about this.  Here's what gave me complete peace.
First of all you or someone you trust with your life needs to answer all the
calls and respond to all the e-mails and be present at ever interaction or
tour of every potential bidder.  In every interaction, not to make it the
centerpiece, but always interject looking them in the eyes or assuring they
hear each word say, "Neither the buyer nor seller is committed until a
contract is signed."  This is also one reason why bidders must take the
inspection in person to bid.  Just never forget to insert that phrase or
interject it.  As you do you'll realize people understand truthfully it does
them a favor as well since they could withdraw their winning bid if they got
carried away.  Bottom line is be fully divulging to everyone at every turn.
If you aren't people will not trust you to bid.  Work as hard as you can on
curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to referee a buyer's
competition, not to hard sell the home you're seeking to sell.  If they all
understand both sides can pull out then the wording of the ad is no issue.
No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a cash buyer who paid
me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was closed and proceeds in
my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad being placed.  

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/>
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64
<mailto:5-dayforum-bounces%2Btomwilson64> =yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/> ] On Behalf Of Andy Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>,
<5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:08:29 -0500
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

I should add that my cash buyer finished fourth in bidding so you want all
the bidders you can get.  My first place bidder got a little carried away
and called me to tell me he'd lost his job that day (this was almost two
years ago before job losses were more common).  He might have, but it was a
coincidence to lose it after bidding too high!  I was happy to let him out
because we agreed nothing is done til a contract is signed.   My second and
third bidders were real estate agents/speculators and were sure they could
talk me down.  They knew they could pull out and they had to because I
simply told them I was moving on to the next bid.  The next bid was the cash
offer.  In all I had five bids above what I realistically thought I could
get for the house.

 

From: Tom Wilson [mailto:tomwilson64 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:03 AM
To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days';
'5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com'
Subject: RE: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

I don't know what all the experts say, but I know I've worked with attorneys
for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25 year career and I
was concerned initially about this.  Here's what gave me complete peace.
First of all you or someone you trust with your life needs to answer all the
calls and respond to all the e-mails and be present at ever interaction or
tour of every potential bidder.  In every interaction, not to make it the
centerpiece, but always interject looking them in the eyes or assuring they
hear each word say, "Neither the buyer nor seller is committed until a
contract is signed."  This is also one reason why bidders must take the
inspection in person to bid.  Just never forget to insert that phrase or
interject it.  As you do you'll realize people understand truthfully it does
them a favor as well since they could withdraw their winning bid if they got
carried away.  Bottom line is be fully divulging to everyone at every turn.
If you aren't people will not trust you to bid.  Work as hard as you can on
curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to referee a buyer's
competition, not to hard sell the home you're seeking to sell.  If they all
understand both sides can pull out then the wording of the ad is no issue.
No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a cash buyer who paid
me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was closed and proceeds in
my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad being placed.  

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/>
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64
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@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/> ] On Behalf Of Andy Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.


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From: ronole at gmail.com (Ron Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:34:10 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Ron sent you photos on Tagged :)
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From tomhoffman at live.com  Thu Jun  4 15:55:27 2009
From: tomhoffman at live.com (Tom Hoffman)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:55:27 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5 day sale in Colorado
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Howdy, contact Kyle Cascioli @ www.AuctionBySeller.com. I beleive he just recently completed a higher end sale in Colorado Springs.

Tom Hoffman-Broker/Owner

Top Priority Realty,LLC

Brighton,Colorado
 


From: Starlitearab at aol.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:47:02 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5 day sale in Colorado


Has anyone sold a home in the Colorado springs area lately using the 5 day method? If so where did you advertise and do know a good settlement agent? Thank You.



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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 21:40:13 EDT
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From tlawooten at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  5 11:19:01 2009
From: tlawooten at hotmail.com (Tracy)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:19:01 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] oklahoma
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From tlawooten at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  5 11:20:03 2009
From: tlawooten at hotmail.com (Tracy)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:20:03 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Oklahoma
Message-ID: <BAY125-DAV2610833868FAD355164D0BE480@phx.gbl>

I am searching for a settlement agent in the OKC metro area.  Any
suggestions?  Success stories here?  Thanks.

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From flyingnutjob at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 11:30:18 2009
From: flyingnutjob at gmail.com (Dutch Revenboer)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:30:18 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] oklahoma
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Tracy,
AGT (American Guarantee Title), Capitol Abstract, First American are all
very good title/closing companies.  I have used them all for years with good
success.  They all have multiple offices all over town.


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Metro Brokers of Oklahoma
www.DreamHomesOKC.com
405-590-6563

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From Rachel at gatewaytitle.com  Fri Jun  5 12:12:20 2009
From: Rachel at gatewaytitle.com (Rachel Torchia)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:12:20 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 27, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <879da5d00906040912o778380c1gd59ae183472e6d15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.8.1244131211.3954.5-dayforum@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
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Message-ID: <EDC76D5B36E63C46BAD006AB9358855301357B34@gta01.gta.local>

I own a title agency in Ohio and we offer support to sellers via
providing doc's (attorney's contract, required disclosure forms) In that
case, sellers come to us first and once the paper work is signed, they
bring them to us to do title and settlement. I would suggest that you
make calls to title companies to see if they provide this service in Co.
- Rachel (Gateway Title Agency, Inc.) 

 

________________________________

From: Mike Huber [mailto:dakotamhh at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:13 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 27, Issue 4

 

Tom, 

 

Thanks much for that line: "Neither the buyer nor seller is committed
until a contract is signed", it is perfect and exactly what I have been
looking for.  

 

One question; did you set up your meeting with title agency before or
after the sale, and how long does the title search process take?  Any
advice on the closing is appreciated.

 

Thanks much,

 

Mike Huber 

- 5 day sale in 2 weeks!

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: NICOLE ARTHUR <nrarthur at msn.com>
To: <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:59:22 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] Renting Home with 5 Day Method

Hello.  Nicole here.  Do any of you have experience using the 5 day
method to rent out your homes?  Specifically, I am looking for help on
how to structure online ads.  Plan to run the sale next weekend in
Northwest Denver, CO. 

 

 

 

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From: "Andy Martin" <hwgdawg at gmail.com>
To: <5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:07:56 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>,
<5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:03:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

I don't know what all the experts say, but I know I've worked with
attorneys for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25
year career and I was concerned initially about this.  Here's what gave
me complete peace.  First of all you or someone you trust with your life
needs to answer all the calls and respond to all the e-mails and be
present at ever interaction or tour of every potential bidder.  In every
interaction, not to make it the centerpiece, but always interject
looking them in the eyes or assuring they hear each word say, "Neither
the buyer nor seller is committed until a contract is signed."  This is
also one reason why bidders must take the inspection in person to bid.
Just never forget to insert that phrase or interject it.  As you do
you'll realize people understand truthfully it does them a favor as well
since they could withdraw their winning bid if they got carried away.
Bottom line is be fully divulging to everyone at every turn.  If you
aren't people will not trust you to bid.  Work as hard as you can on
curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to referee a buyer's
competition, not to hard sell the home you're seeking to sell.  If they
all understand both sides can pull out then the wording of the ad is no
issue.  No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a cash
buyer who paid me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was
closed and proceeds in my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad
being placed.  

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/>
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64
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@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/> ] On Behalf Of Andy
Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>,
<5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:03:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

I don't know what all the experts say, but I know I've worked with
attorneys for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25
year career and I was concerned initially about this.  Here's what gave
me complete peace.  First of all you or someone you trust with your life
needs to answer all the calls and respond to all the e-mails and be
present at ever interaction or tour of every potential bidder.  In every
interaction, not to make it the centerpiece, but always interject
looking them in the eyes or assuring they hear each word say, "Neither
the buyer nor seller is committed until a contract is signed."  This is
also one reason why bidders must take the inspection in person to bid.
Just never forget to insert that phrase or interject it.  As you do
you'll realize people understand truthfully it does them a favor as well
since they could withdraw their winning bid if they got carried away.
Bottom line is be fully divulging to everyone at every turn.  If you
aren't people will not trust you to bid.  Work as hard as you can on
curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to referee a buyer's
competition, not to hard sell the home you're seeking to sell.  If they
all understand both sides can pull out then the wording of the ad is no
issue.  No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a cash
buyer who paid me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was
closed and proceeds in my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad
being placed.  

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/>
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64
<mailto:5-dayforum-bounces%2Btomwilson64> =yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/> ] On Behalf Of Andy
Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>,
<5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:08:29 -0500
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

I should add that my cash buyer finished fourth in bidding so you want
all the bidders you can get.  My first place bidder got a little carried
away and called me to tell me he'd lost his job that day (this was
almost two years ago before job losses were more common).  He might
have, but it was a coincidence to lose it after bidding too high!  I was
happy to let him out because we agreed nothing is done til a contract is
signed.   My second and third bidders were real estate
agents/speculators and were sure they could talk me down.  They knew
they could pull out and they had to because I simply told them I was
moving on to the next bid.  The next bid was the cash offer.  In all I
had five bids above what I realistically thought I could get for the
house.

 

From: Tom Wilson [mailto:tomwilson64 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:03 AM
To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days';
'5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com'
Subject: RE: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

I don't know what all the experts say, but I know I've worked with
attorneys for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25
year career and I was concerned initially about this.  Here's what gave
me complete peace.  First of all you or someone you trust with your life
needs to answer all the calls and respond to all the e-mails and be
present at ever interaction or tour of every potential bidder.  In every
interaction, not to make it the centerpiece, but always interject
looking them in the eyes or assuring they hear each word say, "Neither
the buyer nor seller is committed until a contract is signed."  This is
also one reason why bidders must take the inspection in person to bid.
Just never forget to insert that phrase or interject it.  As you do
you'll realize people understand truthfully it does them a favor as well
since they could withdraw their winning bid if they got carried away.
Bottom line is be fully divulging to everyone at every turn.  If you
aren't people will not trust you to bid.  Work as hard as you can on
curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to referee a buyer's
competition, not to hard sell the home you're seeking to sell.  If they
all understand both sides can pull out then the wording of the ad is no
issue.  No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a cash
buyer who paid me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was
closed and proceeds in my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad
being placed.  

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/>
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64
<mailto:5-dayforum-bounces%2Btomwilson64> =yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/> ] On Behalf Of Andy
Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>,
<5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:08:29 -0500
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

I should add that my cash buyer finished fourth in bidding so you want
all the bidders you can get.  My first place bidder got a little carried
away and called me to tell me he'd lost his job that day (this was
almost two years ago before job losses were more common).  He might
have, but it was a coincidence to lose it after bidding too high!  I was
happy to let him out because we agreed nothing is done til a contract is
signed.   My second and third bidders were real estate
agents/speculators and were sure they could talk me down.  They knew
they could pull out and they had to because I simply told them I was
moving on to the next bid.  The next bid was the cash offer.  In all I
had five bids above what I realistically thought I could get for the
house.

 

From: Tom Wilson [mailto:tomwilson64 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:03 AM
To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days';
'5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com'
Subject: RE: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

I don't know what all the experts say, but I know I've worked with
attorneys for large law firms and in corporate settings my entire 25
year career and I was concerned initially about this.  Here's what gave
me complete peace.  First of all you or someone you trust with your life
needs to answer all the calls and respond to all the e-mails and be
present at ever interaction or tour of every potential bidder.  In every
interaction, not to make it the centerpiece, but always interject
looking them in the eyes or assuring they hear each word say, "Neither
the buyer nor seller is committed until a contract is signed."  This is
also one reason why bidders must take the inspection in person to bid.
Just never forget to insert that phrase or interject it.  As you do
you'll realize people understand truthfully it does them a favor as well
since they could withdraw their winning bid if they got carried away.
Bottom line is be fully divulging to everyone at every turn.  If you
aren't people will not trust you to bid.  Work as hard as you can on
curbing all sales tendencies.  You are there to referee a buyer's
competition, not to hard sell the home you're seeking to sell.  If they
all understand both sides can pull out then the wording of the ad is no
issue.  No one questioned me once about it.  I ended up with a cash
buyer who paid me $2,000 more than I hoped to get and the deal was
closed and proceeds in my bank account in a total of 11 days from my ad
being placed.  

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>
@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/>
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64
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@mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
<http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/> ] On Behalf Of Andy
Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:08 AM
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Advertisement Wording

 

When reviewing the sample advertisement, I noticed that price indicates
"$XXX,XXX or Best Offer."  That seems misleading with the potential of
obligating us to accept the best offer.  Would it be better to list
"$XXX,XXX starting bid"?  Thank you for your advice.


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From: Starlitearab at aol.com (Starlitearab at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:34:47 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 27, Issue 4
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From dniessen at telusplanet.net  Fri Jun  5 14:05:35 2009
From: dniessen at telusplanet.net (Debbie Niessen)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:05:35 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5 day sale on bare land...suggestions needed!
Message-ID: <6E66D7EEE5AC4E55B83539DF4DEBE154@DEN>

Has anyone tried this method for selling raw land?  Can you suggest any
modifications for running the 5 day sale?  This parcel of land is
recreational property so bidders would be travelling to view it.  As
beautiful as it is there, I don't want to sit in a field for 2 days to take
bids so I was thinking of taking bids via e-mail or fax.  Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

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From kyle.frakes at att.net  Fri Jun  5 12:56:29 2009
From: kyle.frakes at att.net (Kyle Frakes)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:56:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Sale In Progress - Kansas City
Message-ID: <196875.11791.qm@web180602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Here is the update on our sale in Kansas City.  The big question is the advertising, even after reading the book I felt that the key to the whole thing is to make sure you reach the buyeers with your advertising.  We went with the flat fee MLS from owners.com as well as craigslist and also put out signs locally and in front of the house.  Been getting a lot of exposure from all the websites and also about 10 from craiglsist.  Most all of the people that call sound like they are coming to the open house.  A lot of this is about developing the repoir with the people and talking to them.  It is fun getting to know them a little and that is how they get to know you are being honest.  Most of them don't really understand the bidding process but the bidding method sheet will come in handy.  For this sale we are giving 1% to buyers agent and giving 1% discount to individuals without agents we didn't want to do this because it deviates from the book a little but
 in our market we feel that the MLS is the only way to get adequate exposure and the MLS rules say we have to give a minimum of 1% commission.  The newspapers are terrible and nobody reads them so we elected to spend out advertising budget on the websites.  So we get it on the websites that people are searching although we have had several realtors call.  So far we have had 34 inquiries so the sale is definitely a go and I believe we ahve reached the buyers effectively.  Most all of my printed materials are ready on different colored sheets and the cleaning lady is at the house today.
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From maxinfa at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  5 13:19:45 2009
From: maxinfa at yahoo.com (Xinfa Ma)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:19:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 27, Issue 5
Message-ID: <442172.31970.qm@web39105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am preparing a 5 day sale in Boston area. Previously,?a?few emails discussed to put the house in MLS. 
My questions are: 1)do you put the address of the house? 2)What will the list price be, a half, or three quarter, or full "market" value? 3)is there any sample for the 5 day sale ad in mls.
?
Thanks,

Xinfa

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From bill at effros.com  Sat Jun  6 08:48:04 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:48:04 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
In-Reply-To: <BAY138-DS5FFF28F02FDC4D2515D9BAC500@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY138-DS5FFF28F02FDC4D2515D9BAC500@phx.gbl>
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I'm a little late on this one.

In the NYC area you can advertise solely on Craigslist at no cost.  
Every real buyer will see your ad, and you will know within a few hours 
of placing the ad whether your home can be sold for anything near what 
you are hoping to get.

Think carefully before spending any additional money on advertising.  
The real buyers are trolling Craigslist constantly, and so are all the 
real estate brokers.  If you can't get 25 responses by Friday night 
solely through Craigslist, all the advertising in the world won't help 
you sell your home for what you think you can get.

A successful 5-Day ad on Craigslist will get 25 responses by Wednesday 
night.

Bill Effros
Author

Rosemary wrote:
> Does anyone have an opinion on the best places to advertise a 5-day 
> sale in the Fort Lee, NJ area?  If you are from the area and have 
> conducted a successful 5-day sale, I'd love to get all your 
> recommendations re: inspections, lawyers, advertising and if anyone 
> thinks there are any special considerations for coop sales.
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From bill at effros.com  Sat Jun  6 08:52:56 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:52:56 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5 day sale on bare land...suggestions needed!
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Debbie,

Forget it.  You can't get enough real buyers in one place at one time.

Bill Effros
Author

Debbie Niessen wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried this method for selling raw land?  Can you suggest 
> any modifications for running the 5 day sale?  This parcel of land is 
> recreational property so bidders would be travelling to view it.  As 
> beautiful as it is there, I don't want to sit in a field for 2 days to 
> take bids so I was thinking of taking bids via e-mail or fax.  Any 
> suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
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From akmihos at verizon.net  Sat Jun  6 09:18:31 2009
From: akmihos at verizon.net (akmihos at verizon.net)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:18:31 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
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Bill, I find it hard to believe that you can find a buyer for a multi million $$$ home on Craiglists! Or am I wrong?

Ari. 
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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From bill at effros.com  Sat Jun  6 11:07:57 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:07:57 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
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Ari,

You are wrong.

I own a multi million dollar home.  I live in an area where almost every 
home is a multi million dollar home.

Craigslist would be the first place I would look, and the first place I 
would advertise.

Let's say I think my home is worth $2,500,000.

I would advertise on Wednesday morning at $1,249,500 on Craigslist.

If I didn't have at least one response by noon, I'd know I had a REAL 
problem.  I would cancel my Craigslist Ad and figure out what went wrong.

But I know roughly what my home is worth, and I know I could sell it for 
$1,249,500 in a heartbeat.

Every broker within 10 miles would contact me by Wednesday night. A 
dozen real buyers would contact me at that price.

Now, maybe I would decide to place an Internet Ad in the New York Times 
to be on the safe side.  Maybe I would place an Internet Ad in Greenwich 
Time for the same reason.  I would probably run Sunday only.  All the 
real buyers would already have seen my home by then, but I might attract 
a couple of posers who might bump up the price and justify the 
additional advertising cost.  Probably not.

I know I couldn't get $5,000,000 for my house, but I'll bet I could get 
damn close to $2,500,000  and maybe more.  No matter how much I 
advertise, or what brokers I use, I would not be able to get $5,000,000 
for my house in the near term.  The 5-Day Method with no advertising 
cost will get me current fair market value in 5 Days. 

(Please note, the broker fee would run over $100,000 -- the brokers will 
tell people anything they want to hear to get the listing.  I know lots 
of people in Greenwich who took a million dollars less than they were 
told they could get while brokers lowered and lowered the price to below 
the point they could have gotten if they had used the 5-Day Method in 
the first place.  Then they paid the $100,000 commission!  Talk about 
adding injury to insult!)

Here in Greenwich we see tens-of-million dollar price 
reductions--private homes offered for tens of millions of dollars less 
than brokers told their clients they could get.  These homes are offered 
everywhere.  Full page ads in the NYT.  Brochures sent to local 
brokers.  Broker Open houses.  Private Viewings. MLS.  Everything you 
can think of.

But, ultimately, even here in Greenwich, you can't fool the market.  If 
it's not worth $70,000,000 you're not going to get $70,000,000.

I'll put it in Craigslist at $17,499,500 on a Wednesday and it'll sell 
for fair market value Sunday night.  It'll be a zoo.  Most people won't 
have the money.  But at least 3 real buyers will show up.  They will bid 
against each other.  The home will sell for fair market value.

Bill Effros
Author

akmihos at verizon.net wrote:
> Bill, I find it hard to believe that you can find a buyer for a multi million $$$ home on Craiglists! Or am I wrong?
>
> Ari. 
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>
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> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:48:04 
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From akmihos at verizon.net  Sat Jun  6 11:20:48 2009
From: akmihos at verizon.net (akmihos at verizon.net)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:20:48 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
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Bill, I will go with Craiglists and also put in an add in a regional and local paper. I will also have a web page with spec info, one outside picture, but no address so that people will call me. The house is a new construction spec home and the bank just did their own independent appraisal without asking me for it just to make sure that the loan that they gave me, the builder, was justified. The house was about 90% complete when the appraisal was done about a couple of weeks ago. The appraisal came in at $2,550,000.  What do you think I should advertise it for?

Ari.
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:07:57 
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Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted


Ari,

You are wrong.

I own a multi million dollar home.  I live in an area where almost every 
home is a multi million dollar home.

Craigslist would be the first place I would look, and the first place I 
would advertise.

Let's say I think my home is worth $2,500,000.

I would advertise on Wednesday morning at $1,249,500 on Craigslist.

If I didn't have at least one response by noon, I'd know I had a REAL 
problem.  I would cancel my Craigslist Ad and figure out what went wrong.

But I know roughly what my home is worth, and I know I could sell it for 
$1,249,500 in a heartbeat.

Every broker within 10 miles would contact me by Wednesday night. A 
dozen real buyers would contact me at that price.

Now, maybe I would decide to place an Internet Ad in the New York Times 
to be on the safe side.  Maybe I would place an Internet Ad in Greenwich 
Time for the same reason.  I would probably run Sunday only.  All the 
real buyers would already have seen my home by then, but I might attract 
a couple of posers who might bump up the price and justify the 
additional advertising cost.  Probably not.

I know I couldn't get $5,000,000 for my house, but I'll bet I could get 
damn close to $2,500,000  and maybe more.  No matter how much I 
advertise, or what brokers I use, I would not be able to get $5,000,000 
for my house in the near term.  The 5-Day Method with no advertising 
cost will get me current fair market value in 5 Days. 

(Please note, the broker fee would run over $100,000 -- the brokers will 
tell people anything they want to hear to get the listing.  I know lots 
of people in Greenwich who took a million dollars less than they were 
told they could get while brokers lowered and lowered the price to below 
the point they could have gotten if they had used the 5-Day Method in 
the first place.  Then they paid the $100,000 commission!  Talk about 
adding injury to insult!)

Here in Greenwich we see tens-of-million dollar price 
reductions--private homes offered for tens of millions of dollars less 
than brokers told their clients they could get.  These homes are offered 
everywhere.  Full page ads in the NYT.  Brochures sent to local 
brokers.  Broker Open houses.  Private Viewings. MLS.  Everything you 
can think of.

But, ultimately, even here in Greenwich, you can't fool the market.  If 
it's not worth $70,000,000 you're not going to get $70,000,000.

I'll put it in Craigslist at $17,499,500 on a Wednesday and it'll sell 
for fair market value Sunday night.  It'll be a zoo.  Most people won't 
have the money.  But at least 3 real buyers will show up.  They will bid 
against each other.  The home will sell for fair market value.

Bill Effros
Author

akmihos at verizon.net wrote:
> Bill, I find it hard to believe that you can find a buyer for a multi million $$$ home on Craiglists! Or am I wrong?
>
> Ari. 
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:48:04 
> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
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From bill at effros.com  Sat Jun  6 12:46:33 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:46:33 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
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$999,750.  Craiglist Only.  Early Wednesday Morning.  Nothing else, 
anywhere else.  No pictures in craigslist ad.  No telephone number.  No 
MLS listing.  No web page.  No forewarning to anybody that this will 
appear when it appears.  They must respond to the email address you use 
on this site for pictures and more info--that's the only way anybody can 
learn more.

No weaseling.  Tell everybody it's going to the high bidder Sunday 
night, AND MEAN IT!  This is the only way to get the high bid.  Don't 
add lawyer language to the ad.  Tell your lawyer to bid on the house if 
he thinks it's going too cheap.  $999,750 or Best Offer. (Period)

The house isn't worth $2,550,000 at the present time, and we all know 
it.  Everyone thinks that by appraising high it will bring high.  It won't.

If you don't get 25 responses from the craigslist only ad by Friday 
night -- rethink the whole thing--you're unlikely to get $2,000,000 for 
it at the present time no matter what you do.  Go to Plan B.

If you've got 25 responses by Wednesday night start filling in the 
advertising if it makes you feel more comfortable.  It's just 
insurance.  You won't get any more for the house if 10 real buyers show 
up than if just 3 show up.  If it's worth $2,550,000 you'll get it 
either way.

Starting my way costs you nothing but 1 week, and in that week you'll 
learn more that you can possibly learn any other way.  LMK.

Bill Effros
Author

PS -- Every friend you've got should get in touch by Wednesday night to 
find out if you've lost your mind. 



akmihos at verizon.net wrote:
> Bill, I will go with Craiglists and also put in an add in a regional and local paper. I will also have a web page with spec info, one outside picture, but no address so that people will call me. The house is a new construction spec home and the bank just did their own independent appraisal without asking me for it just to make sure that the loan that they gave me, the builder, was justified. The house was about 90% complete when the appraisal was done about a couple of weeks ago. The appraisal came in at $2,550,000.  What do you think I should advertise it for?
>
> Ari.
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:07:57 
> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
>
>
> Ari,
>
> You are wrong.
>
> I own a multi million dollar home.  I live in an area where almost every 
> home is a multi million dollar home.
>
> Craigslist would be the first place I would look, and the first place I 
> would advertise.
>
> Let's say I think my home is worth $2,500,000.
>
> I would advertise on Wednesday morning at $1,249,500 on Craigslist.
>
> If I didn't have at least one response by noon, I'd know I had a REAL 
> problem.  I would cancel my Craigslist Ad and figure out what went wrong.
>
> But I know roughly what my home is worth, and I know I could sell it for 
> $1,249,500 in a heartbeat.
>
> Every broker within 10 miles would contact me by Wednesday night. A 
> dozen real buyers would contact me at that price.
>
> Now, maybe I would decide to place an Internet Ad in the New York Times 
> to be on the safe side.  Maybe I would place an Internet Ad in Greenwich 
> Time for the same reason.  I would probably run Sunday only.  All the 
> real buyers would already have seen my home by then, but I might attract 
> a couple of posers who might bump up the price and justify the 
> additional advertising cost.  Probably not.
>
> I know I couldn't get $5,000,000 for my house, but I'll bet I could get 
> damn close to $2,500,000  and maybe more.  No matter how much I 
> advertise, or what brokers I use, I would not be able to get $5,000,000 
> for my house in the near term.  The 5-Day Method with no advertising 
> cost will get me current fair market value in 5 Days. 
>
> (Please note, the broker fee would run over $100,000 -- the brokers will 
> tell people anything they want to hear to get the listing.  I know lots 
> of people in Greenwich who took a million dollars less than they were 
> told they could get while brokers lowered and lowered the price to below 
> the point they could have gotten if they had used the 5-Day Method in 
> the first place.  Then they paid the $100,000 commission!  Talk about 
> adding injury to insult!)
>
> Here in Greenwich we see tens-of-million dollar price 
> reductions--private homes offered for tens of millions of dollars less 
> than brokers told their clients they could get.  These homes are offered 
> everywhere.  Full page ads in the NYT.  Brochures sent to local 
> brokers.  Broker Open houses.  Private Viewings. MLS.  Everything you 
> can think of.
>
> But, ultimately, even here in Greenwich, you can't fool the market.  If 
> it's not worth $70,000,000 you're not going to get $70,000,000.
>
> I'll put it in Craigslist at $17,499,500 on a Wednesday and it'll sell 
> for fair market value Sunday night.  It'll be a zoo.  Most people won't 
> have the money.  But at least 3 real buyers will show up.  They will bid 
> against each other.  The home will sell for fair market value.
>
> Bill Effros
> Author
>
> akmihos at verizon.net wrote:
>   
>> Bill, I find it hard to believe that you can find a buyer for a multi million $$$ home on Craiglists! Or am I wrong?
>>
>> Ari. 
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>
>> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:48:04 
>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
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From akmihos at verizon.net  Sat Jun  6 13:01:56 2009
From: akmihos at verizon.net (akmihos at verizon.net)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:01:56 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
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Bill, I will let you know what happens when we do this in about 4-weeks. I will respond back to this email. Please note that I had nothing to do with the appraisal. It was completely bank driven so I had no choice but to let them in and do their thing. Also, as I am the builder, I know what this house has cost me to build. It will be a darn shame to make no money or even lose money on it. I can always move in myself if I have to. You'll hear from me in a few weeks. Thank you again for the info. 
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From tgarter at comcast.net  Sat Jun  6 17:32:21 2009
From: tgarter at comcast.net (tgarter at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 21:32:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
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Bill, 
There are a number of professionals who follow YOUR 5 day forum telling people that your system isn't quite right and they have changed it so that it works more properly. You are often the lone voice explaining how the system works. I would like to repeat a message I sent a few weeks ago. 

My wife and I followed your book almost exactly. My wife bought the house for $184,000 in 2003, she spent over $30,000 on improvements and remodeling costs. A local realtor said he would list it for $175,000 and we should expect to get $165,000. We listed on Craiglist list Wed for $74,500 and had 30 responses by Wed night. The newspaper ad Wed to Sun didn't bring a response until Sat. We had about 32 couples or groups through the house, 10 left a bid. Sunday evening we ended up with 3 interested buyers bidding the higher prices and finally sold it for $145,000. Even if the Realtor was correct in predicting a sale price of $165,000, his commission would have reduced it to $155,000. The house was costing us $2,000 a month, so if the realtor took 5 months it would have been a wash. Most houses are not selling for the number they expect in 5 months. We did it all in 5 days by the book. There are several houses for sale by owner and by realtors in the neighborhood that have been on the market for over a year. 

The 5 day method Bill developed worked. Thank-you Bill !!! 

Sincerely, 
Tom Garter - successful 5 day seller 

p.s. I think it is so very interesting how many professionals are trying to pick up customers from this forum. Bill's system works, I keep wondering why they come here looking for customers instead of writing a book about the success of their system and going to their own forum. 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com> 
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> 
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 12:46:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted 

$999,750. Craiglist Only. Early Wednesday Morning. Nothing else, anywhere else. No pictures in craigslist ad. No telephone number. No MLS listing. No web page. No forewarning to anybody that this will appear when it appears. They must respond to the email address you use on this site for pictures and more info--that's the only way anybody can learn more. 

No weaseling. Tell everybody it's going to the high bidder Sunday night, AND MEAN IT! This is the only way to get the high bid. Don't add lawyer language to the ad. Tell your lawyer to bid on the house if he thinks it's going too cheap. $999,750 or Best Offer. (Period) 

The house isn't worth $2,550,000 at the present time, and we all know it. Everyone thinks that by appraising high it will bring high. It won't. 

If you don't get 25 responses from the craigslist only ad by Friday night -- rethink the whole thing--you're unlikely to get $2,000,000 for it at the present time no matter what you do. Go to Plan B. 

If you've got 25 responses by Wednesday night start filling in the advertising if it makes you feel more comfortable. It's just insurance. You won't get any more for the house if 10 real buyers show up than if just 3 show up. If it's worth $2,550,000 you'll get it either way. 

Starting my way costs you nothing but 1 week, and in that week you'll learn more that you can possibly learn any other way. LMK. 

Bill Effros 
Author 

PS -- Every friend you've got should get in touch by Wednesday night to find out if you've lost your mind. 



akmihos at verizon.net wrote: 

Bill, I will go with Craiglists and also put in an add in a regional and local paper. I will also have a web page with spec info, one outside picture, but no address so that people will call me. The house is a new construction spec home and the bank just did their own independent appraisal without asking me for it just to make sure that the loan that they gave me, the builder, was justified. The house was about 90% complete when the appraisal was done about a couple of weeks ago. The appraisal came in at $2,550,000.  What do you think I should advertise it for?

Ari.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:07:57 
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted


Ari,

You are wrong.

I own a multi million dollar home.  I live in an area where almost every 
home is a multi million dollar home.

Craigslist would be the first place I would look, and the first place I 
would advertise.

Let's say I think my home is worth $2,500,000.

I would advertise on Wednesday morning at $1,249,500 on Craigslist.

If I didn't have at least one response by noon, I'd know I had a REAL 
problem.  I would cancel my Craigslist Ad and figure out what went wrong.

But I know roughly what my home is worth, and I know I could sell it for 
$1,249,500 in a heartbeat.

Every broker within 10 miles would contact me by Wednesday night. A 
dozen real buyers would contact me at that price.

Now, maybe I would decide to place an Internet Ad in the New York Times 
to be on the safe side.  Maybe I would place an Internet Ad in Greenwich 
Time for the same reason.  I would probably run Sunday only.  All the 
real buyers would already have seen my home by then, but I might attract 
a couple of posers who might bump up the price and justify the 
additional advertising cost.  Probably not.

I know I couldn't get $5,000,000 for my house, but I'll bet I could get 
damn close to $2,500,000  and maybe more.  No matter how much I 
advertise, or what brokers I use, I would not be able to get $5,000,000 
for my house in the near term.  The 5-Day Method with no advertising 
cost will get me current fair market value in 5 Days. 

(Please note, the broker fee would run over $100,000 -- the brokers will 
tell people anything they want to hear to get the listing.  I know lots 
of people in Greenwich who took a million dollars less than they were 
told they could get while brokers lowered and lowered the price to below 
the point they could have gotten if they had used the 5-Day Method in 
the first place.  Then they paid the $100,000 commission!  Talk about 
adding injury to insult!)

Here in Greenwich we see tens-of-million dollar price 
reductions--private homes offered for tens of millions of dollars less 
than brokers told their clients they could get.  These homes are offered 
everywhere.  Full page ads in the NYT.  Brochures sent to local 
brokers.  Broker Open houses.  Private Viewings. MLS.  Everything you 
can think of.

But, ultimately, even here in Greenwich, you can't fool the market.  If 
it's not worth $70,000,000 you're not going to get $70,000,000.

I'll put it in Craigslist at $17,499,500 on a Wednesday and it'll sell 
for fair market value Sunday night.  It'll be a zoo.  Most people won't 
have the money.  But at least 3 real buyers will show up.  They will bid 
against each other.  The home will sell for fair market value.

Bill Effros
Author akmihos at verizon.net wrote: 

Bill, I find it hard to believe that you can find a buyer for a multi million $$$ home on Craiglists! Or am I wrong?

Ari. 
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From jawgnat at gt.rr.com  Sat Jun  6 21:24:55 2009
From: jawgnat at gt.rr.com (Jeannette Freeman)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 20:24:55 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
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Bill,

Will Craigslist work for non-metro areas?

I live in Southeast Texas, 100 miles east of Houston. I searched the Houston Craigslist a couple weeks ago to see if there were any FSBO listings for my area. I found one.

Can I be certain in my location that only advertising on Craigslist will be adequate? Or will I just have to wait and see how many responses I have by Wednesday night or maybe Friday night?

What are your thoughts?

Thanks,
Jeannette
planning to use 5-day-method, probably not till early 2010
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From kirkras at hotmail.com  Sat Jun  6 12:45:57 2009
From: kirkras at hotmail.com (Kirk Ras)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 16:45:57 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
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Hi Bill,

 

I've read your book twice.  I'm a Realtor.

 

How is it not lying when you tell everyone it will be sold to the highest bidder and start the price at half of your estimated value?  The house will not be sold to the highest bidder unless it is above a reserve price.

 

I've only got one data point for central IL.

 

My broker had an investment interest in a house.  The investor was trying through using the MLS to get $65k out of the house.  I was talking w/ the investor about lease options to 5-day auctions.  I lend the investor my five day auction book.

 

Investor then takes my book and decides to host the auction himself.  My broker and I were planning to do the auction for free since my broker had an investment interest in the house.  I wanted to see if your 5 day method actually worked and I wanted the buyer leads.

 

Well this "investor" decides to run the auction himself.  He advertises in the local paper and on Craigslist.  He gets 18 calls by Friday.  He might have been overpriced I think he was at $29,500.  Additionally I think he probably could have done better with his advertising.  He decided to continue with the auction since he spent the dollars for advertising.   

 

After they basically "steal" my suggestion and after none of the buyers are interested in their house at the RESERVE price and I spend my weekend helping them, they won't share the buyer leads.

 

I've noticed people offering compensations of 1% -  Gee let me drive my clients around to 20 houses and help them find a house.  I really hope they buy your 1% of a $250,000 house.  Hmmm then split with the broker.  Wow I go a whole $1250 for doing the whole transaction.

 

My broker talked to a local auctioneer.  He said once the ad went in for the house at $29,500 the seller was obligated to sell to anyone at or above $29,500 (should have included - something about reserve price.)  I'm not sure this is true in all states.  I'm not 100% positive about IL.  Have you heard of anyone being forced to sell the house for the highest bid?

 

Well my broker lowered the price in the MLS.  The house has an accepted offer for $51k.

 

I've been very tempted to try to sell my house using the five day method because:

1.  I want to get the buyer leads

2.  If we can help people auction their homes we should be able to differentiate ourselves and make more money and make people happier to have their house sold so quickly.

 

I have chickened out.  I think I will get more money using the MLS or not sell my home.  I'm fine with not selling my home.  Many people that came to the auction were "bottom feeders." or naive people that actually thought the house would be sold to the highest bidder.  The auction attendees final bidders weren't the happiest.  "anything that is too good to be true probably is."

 

Do you know any Realtors that use your method or a variation on your method?

 

I would think if your method worked so great realtors would be lining up to do your 5-day auctions.

 

Help the seller:

1.  Declutter their house

2.  Do the Big Bang for buck fixes

3.  Stage house

4.  Advertise auction

5.  Host auction

 

Do you have any more info on how brokers/agents conduct these auctions in Australia or a link?

 

I would really like to develop a variation of the 5 day to give my clients great service.  Any thoughts or insights appreciated.

 

Apologies -  This probably is not the correct way to post to this forum.

Best Regards,

 

Kirk 

 

 
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 11:07:57 -0400
> From: bill at effros.com
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
> 
> Ari,
> 
> You are wrong.
> 
> I own a multi million dollar home. I live in an area where almost every 
> home is a multi million dollar home.
> 
> Craigslist would be the first place I would look, and the first place I 
> would advertise.
> 
> Let's say I think my home is worth $2,500,000.
> 
> I would advertise on Wednesday morning at $1,249,500 on Craigslist.
> 
> If I didn't have at least one response by noon, I'd know I had a REAL 
> problem. I would cancel my Craigslist Ad and figure out what went wrong.
> 
> But I know roughly what my home is worth, and I know I could sell it for 
> $1,249,500 in a heartbeat.
> 
> Every broker within 10 miles would contact me by Wednesday night. A 
> dozen real buyers would contact me at that price.
> 
> Now, maybe I would decide to place an Internet Ad in the New York Times 
> to be on the safe side. Maybe I would place an Internet Ad in Greenwich 
> Time for the same reason. I would probably run Sunday only. All the 
> real buyers would already have seen my home by then, but I might attract 
> a couple of posers who might bump up the price and justify the 
> additional advertising cost. Probably not.
> 
> I know I couldn't get $5,000,000 for my house, but I'll bet I could get 
> damn close to $2,500,000 and maybe more. No matter how much I 
> advertise, or what brokers I use, I would not be able to get $5,000,000 
> for my house in the near term. The 5-Day Method with no advertising 
> cost will get me current fair market value in 5 Days. 
> 
> (Please note, the broker fee would run over $100,000 -- the brokers will 
> tell people anything they want to hear to get the listing. I know lots 
> of people in Greenwich who took a million dollars less than they were 
> told they could get while brokers lowered and lowered the price to below 
> the point they could have gotten if they had used the 5-Day Method in 
> the first place. Then they paid the $100,000 commission! Talk about 
> adding injury to insult!)
> 
> Here in Greenwich we see tens-of-million dollar price 
> reductions--private homes offered for tens of millions of dollars less 
> than brokers told their clients they could get. These homes are offered 
> everywhere. Full page ads in the NYT. Brochures sent to local 
> brokers. Broker Open houses. Private Viewings. MLS. Everything you 
> can think of.
> 
> But, ultimately, even here in Greenwich, you can't fool the market. If 
> it's not worth $70,000,000 you're not going to get $70,000,000.
> 
> I'll put it in Craigslist at $17,499,500 on a Wednesday and it'll sell 
> for fair market value Sunday night. It'll be a zoo. Most people won't 
> have the money. But at least 3 real buyers will show up. They will bid 
> against each other. The home will sell for fair market value.
> 
> Bill Effros
> Author
> 
> akmihos at verizon.net wrote:
> > Bill, I find it hard to believe that you can find a buyer for a multi million $$$ home on Craiglists! Or am I wrong?
> >
> > Ari. 
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
> >
> > Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:48:04 
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> > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
> >
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From paytonm at gns2000.com  Sat Jun  6 12:44:14 2009
From: paytonm at gns2000.com (M Payton)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:44:14 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] Renting Home with 5 Day Method
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None here in San Pedro..I'd like to see you other responses.

 

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From: NICOLE ARTHUR [mailto:nrarthur at msn.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:59 AM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] Renting Home with 5 Day Method

 

Hello.  Nicole here.  Do any of you have experience using the 5 day method
to rent out your homes?  Specifically, I am looking for help on how to
structure online ads.  Plan to run the sale next weekend in Northwest
Denver, CO.

 

 

 

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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Sun Jun  7 10:38:29 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 10:38:29 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
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By early 2010 the scene may have changed completely. Postlets.com will put your ad on Craigslist and several other sites. My personal opinion is that you are not planning to do this for another six months, use that time for research but you can't decide much until you know the state of things at that time.
Good luck.
Rosemarie (occasional seller)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jeannette Freeman 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 9:24 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted


  Bill,

  Will Craigslist work for non-metro areas?

  I live in Southeast Texas, 100 miles east of Houston. I searched the Houston Craigslist a couple weeks ago to see if there were any FSBO listings for my area. I found one.

  Can I be certain in my location that only advertising on Craigslist will be adequate? Or will I just have to wait and see how many responses I have by Wednesday night or maybe Friday night?

  What are your thoughts?

  Thanks,
  Jeannette
  planning to use 5-day-method, probably not till early 2010


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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Sun Jun  7 10:47:04 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 10:47:04 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtor questions
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Kirk-
Please change the subject line when you change the subject!
There are hundreds (well, a lot) of threads in the archives about this - I suggest you read what all the realtors and others have said and then come back with new questions.
This method was addressed to homeowners who want to sell their houses without a realtor. The fact that many realtors use the method successfully is a side effect! There a loads of suggestions from realtors in the archives, but this forum is not about that, really. Each person has to take what works for them, but the method is not directed at your needs.
Let us know how you make it work for you.
Rosemarie
(Investor and occasional seller)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kirk Ras 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted


  Hi Bill,
   
  I've read your book twice.  I'm a Realtor.
   
  How is it not lying when you tell everyone it will be sold to the highest bidder and start the price at half of your estimated value?  The house will not be sold to the highest bidder unless it is above a reserve price.
   
  I've only got one data point for central IL.
   
  My broker had an investment interest in a house.  The investor was trying through using the MLS to get $65k out of the house.  I was talking w/ the investor about lease options to 5-day auctions.  I lend the investor my five day auction book.
   
  Investor then takes my book and decides to host the auction himself.  My broker and I were planning to do the auction for free since my broker had an investment interest in the house.  I wanted to see if your 5 day method actually worked and I wanted the buyer leads.
   
  Well this "investor" decides to run the auction himself.  He advertises in the local paper and on Craigslist.  He gets 18 calls by Friday.  He might have been overpriced I think he was at $29,500.  Additionally I think he probably could have done better with his advertising.  He decided to continue with the auction since he spent the dollars for advertising.   
   
  After they basically "steal" my suggestion and after none of the buyers are interested in their house at the RESERVE price and I spend my weekend helping them, they won't share the buyer leads.
   
  I've noticed people offering compensations of 1% -  Gee let me drive my clients around to 20 houses and help them find a house.  I really hope they buy your 1% of a $250,000 house.  Hmmm then split with the broker.  Wow I go a whole $1250 for doing the whole transaction.
   
  My broker talked to a local auctioneer.  He said once the ad went in for the house at $29,500 the seller was obligated to sell to anyone at or above $29,500 (should have included - something about reserve price.)  I'm not sure this is true in all states.  I'm not 100% positive about IL.  Have you heard of anyone being forced to sell the house for the highest bid?
   
  Well my broker lowered the price in the MLS.  The house has an accepted offer for $51k.
   
  I've been very tempted to try to sell my house using the five day method because:
  1.  I want to get the buyer leads
  2.  If we can help people auction their homes we should be able to differentiate ourselves and make more money and make people happier to have their house sold so quickly.
   
  I have chickened out.  I think I will get more money using the MLS or not sell my home.  I'm fine with not selling my home.  Many people that came to the auction were "bottom feeders." or naive people that actually thought the house would be sold to the highest bidder.  The auction attendees final bidders weren't the happiest.  "anything that is too good to be true probably is."
   
  Do you know any Realtors that use your method or a variation on your method?
   
  I would think if your method worked so great realtors would be lining up to do your 5-day auctions.
   
  Help the seller:
  1.  Declutter their house
  2.  Do the Big Bang for buck fixes
  3.  Stage house
  4.  Advertise auction
  5.  Host auction
   
  Do you have any more info on how brokers/agents conduct these auctions in Australia or a link?
   
  I would really like to develop a variation of the 5 day to give my clients great service.  Any thoughts or insights appreciated.
   
  Apologies -  This probably is not the correct way to post to this forum.
  Best Regards,
   
  Kirk 
   
   
  > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 11:07:57 -0400
  > From: bill at effros.com
  > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
  > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
  > 
  > Ari,
  > 
  > You are wrong.
  > 
  > I own a multi million dollar home. I live in an area where almost every 
  > home is a multi million dollar home.
  > 
  > Craigslist would be the first place I would look, and the first place I 
  > would advertise.
  > 
  > Let's say I think my home is worth $2,500,000.
  > 
  > I would advertise on Wednesday morning at $1,249,500 on Craigslist.
  > 
  > If I didn't have at least one response by noon, I'd know I had a REAL 
  > problem. I would cancel my Craigslist Ad and figure out what went wrong.
  > 
  > But I know roughly what my home is worth, and I know I could sell it for 
  > $1,249,500 in a heartbeat.
  > 
  > Every broker within 10 miles would contact me by Wednesday night. A 
  > dozen real buyers would contact me at that price.
  > 
  > Now, maybe I would decide to place an Internet Ad in the New York Times 
  > to be on the safe side. Maybe I would place an Internet Ad in Greenwich 
  > Time for the same reason. I would probably run Sunday only. All the 
  > real buyers would already have seen my home by then, but I might attract 
  > a couple of posers who might bump up the price and justify the 
  > additional advertising cost. Probably not.
  > 
  > I know I couldn't get $5,000,000 for my house, but I'll bet I could get 
  > damn close to $2,500,000 and maybe more. No matter how much I 
  > advertise, or what brokers I use, I would not be able to get $5,000,000 
  > for my house in the near term. The 5-Day Method with no advertising 
  > cost will get me current fair market value in 5 Days. 
  > 
  > (Please note, the broker fee would run over $100,000 -- the brokers will 
  > tell people anything they want to hear to get the listing. I know lots 
  > of people in Greenwich who took a million dollars less than they were 
  > told they could get while brokers lowered and lowered the price to below 
  > the point they could have gotten if they had used the 5-Day Method in 
  > the first place. Then they paid the $100,000 commission! Talk about 
  > adding injury to insult!)
  > 
  > Here in Greenwich we see tens-of-million dollar price 
  > reductions--private homes offered for tens of millions of dollars less 
  > than brokers told their clients they could get. These homes are offered 
  > everywhere. Full page ads in the NYT. Brochures sent to local 
  > brokers. Broker Open houses. Private Viewings. MLS. Everything you 
  > can think of.
  > 
  > But, ultimately, even here in Greenwich, you can't fool the market. If 
  > it's not worth $70,000,000 you're not going to get $70,000,000.
  > 
  > I'll put it in Craigslist at $17,499,500 on a Wednesday and it'll sell 
  > for fair market value Sunday night. It'll be a zoo. Most people won't 
  > have the money. But at least 3 real buyers will show up. They will bid 
  > against each other. The home will sell for fair market value.
  > 
  > Bill Effros
  > Author
  > 
  > akmihos at verizon.net wrote:
  > > Bill, I find it hard to believe that you can find a buyer for a multi million $$$ home on Craiglists! Or am I wrong?
  > >
  > > Ari. 
  > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
  > >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
  > >
  > > Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:48:04 
  > > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
  > > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
  > >
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From bill at effros.com  Sun Jun  7 10:58:22 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:58:22 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
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Jeanette,

I don't know.  But you are thinking it through properly, and Craigslist 
should only get stronger in more places as time goes by.

When you are ready, run the Craigslist ad on Wednesday, and make your 
decision on Wednesday night.  If you don't get a "strong" response (I 
don't know exactly what that means, but if you say "Wow!  I didn't think 
that many people would respond from Craigslist so quickly, and I'm sure 
we'll get 25 responses by Friday night...") you can safely proceed with 
Craigslist until Friday.  If you have the 25 responses by Friday, you 
proceed with the sale that weekend.  If not, you run a rural "flyer" 
advertising campaign (see Mark...Sanford, Michigan? Somebody please help 
me here--he ran a successful flyer campaign in rural Michigan as prices 
were collapsing all around him--find it in the Archives.  I'll look and 
repost as a "stock answer" when I get the time.  (Don't hold your breath 
-- find out from the forum where that is, and look for yourself.)

Anyhow, if you don't get 25 responses by Friday night solely from 
Craigslist, you get back to the Craigslist people and tell them you 
didn't get 25 so you must run the sale the following weekend.  Yank the 
Craigslist ad, and don't put it back on Craigslist until the following 
Wednesday.  Follow a rural advertising strategy -- heavily local. And 
look very carefully at your starting price.

Discard all the nonsense you read on this forum about "if I start higher 
I'll get more."  You must start at a price that entices people living in 
Houston to drive 100 miles with the assurance that YOU REALLY ARE GOING 
TO SELL YOUR HOME TO THE HIGH BIDDER NO MATTER WHAT THE PRICE -- so it 
is worth the drive.  (Your home will be purchased by a local, but that's 
not the point -- the people driving in from Houston are the ones who 
will drive the price up to the most you can get in the current market.)

I have done this in the NYC area, and people did drive 100 miles to see 
the property.  I could find no buyers at any price locally despite using 
all the traditional methods.  So I ran a 5-Day Sale offering the house 
for $24,750. I did no local advertising except flyers.  35 different 
buyers drove up from NYC.  I sold the house for $75,000 to a local.  I 
would have taken $25,000 and I let everyone know it -- at that point it 
was found money as people told me the house (which was in substantial 
disrepair and would have to be brought up to code before it could be 
inhabited) was not worth the taxes that would have to be paid while the 
work was being done.

Stay in touch.  Let us know how it goes.  Feel free to think out loud on 
this forum as you plan the sale.

Bill Effros
Author

Jeannette Freeman wrote:
> Bill,
>  
> Will Craigslist work for non-metro areas?
>  
> I live in Southeast Texas, 100 miles east of Houston. I searched the 
> Houston Craigslist a couple weeks ago to see if there were any FSBO 
> listings for my area. I found one.
>  
> Can I be certain in my location that only advertising on Craigslist 
> will be adequate? Or will I just have to wait and see how many 
> responses I have by Wednesday night or maybe Friday night?
>  
> What are your thoughts?
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeannette
> planning to use 5-day-method, probably not till early 2010
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From bill at effros.com  Sun Jun  7 11:32:39 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:32:39 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
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Kirk,

As noted by Rosemarie, I have answered these questions repeatedly, 
please look in the archives for details.

The short answers:

1.  I ALWAYS SELL THE HOUSE TO THE HIGH BIDDER -- I NEVER USE ANY KIND 
OF RESERVE -- "LYING"?

(As an aside, is it "lying" when a Realtor tells a client he can 
estimate the value of home and the home is subsequently sold at a 
fraction of the estimate?)

2.  It is completely unethical to use the 5-Day Method to compile buyer 
leads, or for sellers to sell their leads to brokers.  This is a classic 
"Bait and Switch" scam, and they'll knock you off Craigslist if anyone 
reports you are doing it.

3.  Brokers get lower prices when they run 5-Day Sales than homeowners 
would get precisely because buyers understand that brokers are playing 
all kinds of angles.  This method was designed for people-to-people 
transactions, and real buyers don't give their high bid to professionals 
whom they suspect will then attempt to bump up their bid after the 
bidding is over.

4.  The auctioneer was wrong with regard to sales by individuals.

5.  Your investor did not run the sale properly.  18 responses means the 
price is too high.  The home would have gone for more if the 5-Day sale 
were run properly.

6.  As you can see.  The Method works.  Your investor could not get what 
he "wanted" for the house no matter what he did.  He could only get its 
current value.  The 5-Day Method, starting at $24,750 would have gotten 
him $51,000 at no cost in 5 days.  If he put it in at $29,500 and failed 
to get 25 responses by Friday night, he should have known right then and 
there he was unlikely to get his "hoped for" price of $65,000.  Then 
it's time to either fish or cut bait.

7.  There is no reason to offer brokers anything for driving their 
clients around.  Those clients are going to find 5-Day Sales all by 
themselves, drive themselves over, and buy the homes for less than they 
would have to pay if the broker had to be paid for driving people around.

8.  It should be clear by now that the "bottom feeders" and "investors" 
and "flippers" who bought houses "cheap" and "below bank appraisals" and 
"for less than my broker says he can get" for the past several years 
were buying and selling to each other at absurdly inflated prices they 
will never be able to recover.  They are all going bankrupt right now, 
and an incredible percentage of mortgages are going into foreclosure.  
This situation won't improve any time soon.  In the meanwhile, people 
who use the 5-Day Method will be able to sell their homes at current 
market value in 5 Days with virtually no selling cost.

Gotta run--it's all in the archives,

Bill Effros
Author



Kirk Ras wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>  
> I've read your book twice.  I'm a Realtor.
>  
> How is it not lying when you tell everyone it will be sold to the 
> highest bidder and start the price at half of your estimated value?  
> The house will not be sold to the highest bidder unless it is above a 
> reserve price.
>  
> I've only got one data point for central IL.
>  
> My broker had an investment interest in a house.  The investor was 
> trying through using the MLS to get $65k out of the house.  I was 
> talking w/ the investor about lease options to 5-day auctions.  I lend 
> the investor my five day auction book.
>  
> Investor then takes my book and decides to host the auction himself.  
> My broker and I were planning to do the auction for free since my 
> broker had an investment interest in the house.  I wanted to see if 
> your 5 day method actually worked and I wanted the buyer leads.
>  
> Well this "investor" decides to run the auction himself.  He 
> advertises in the local paper and on Craigslist.  He gets 18 calls by 
> Friday.  He might have been overpriced I think he was at $29,500.  
> Additionally I think he probably could have done better with his 
> advertising.  He decided to continue with the auction since he spent 
> the dollars for advertising.   
>  
> After they basically "steal" my suggestion and after none of the 
> buyers are interested in their house at the RESERVE price and I spend 
> my weekend helping them, they won't share the buyer leads.
>  
> I've noticed people offering compensations of 1% -  Gee let me drive 
> my clients around to 20 houses and help them find a house.  I really 
> hope they buy your 1% of a $250,000 house.  Hmmm then split with the 
> broker.  Wow I go a whole $1250 for doing the whole transaction.
>  
> My broker talked to a local auctioneer.  He said once the ad went in 
> for the house at $29,500 the seller was obligated to sell to anyone 
> at or above $29,500 (should have included - something about reserve 
> price.)  I'm not sure this is true in all states.  I'm not 100% 
> positive about IL.  Have you heard of anyone being forced to sell the 
> house for the highest bid?
>  
> Well my broker lowered the price in the MLS.  The house has an 
> accepted offer for $51k.
>  
> I've been very tempted to try to sell my house using the five day 
> method because:
> 1.  I want to get the buyer leads
> 2.  If we can help people auction their homes we should be able to 
> differentiate ourselves and make more money and make people happier to 
> have their house sold so quickly.
>  
> I have chickened out.  I think I will get more money using the MLS or 
> not sell my home.  I'm fine with not selling my home.  Many people 
> that came to the auction were "bottom feeders." or naive people that 
> actually thought the house would be sold to the highest bidder.  The 
> auction attendees final bidders weren't the happiest.  "anything that 
> is too good to be true probably is."
>  
> Do you know any Realtors that use your method or a variation on your 
> method?
>  
> I would think if your method worked so great realtors would be lining 
> up to do your 5-day auctions.
>  
> Help the seller:
> 1.  Declutter their house
> 2.  Do the Big Bang for buck fixes
> 3.  Stage house
> 4.  Advertise auction
> 5.  Host auction
>  
> Do you have any more info on how brokers/agents conduct these auctions 
> in Australia or a link?
>  
> I would really like to develop a variation of the 5 day to give my 
> clients great service.  Any thoughts or insights appreciated.
>  
> Apologies -  This probably is not the correct way to post to this forum.
> Best Regards,
>  
> Kirk 
>  
>  
> > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 11:07:57 -0400
> > From: bill at effros.com
> > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
> >
> > Ari,
> >
> > You are wrong.
> >
> > I own a multi million dollar home. I live in an area where almost every
> > home is a multi million dollar home.
> >
> > Craigslist would be the first place I would look, and the first place I
> > would advertise.
> >
> > Let's say I think my home is worth $2,500,000.
> >
> > I would advertise on Wednesday morning at $1,249,500 on Craigslist.
> >
> > If I didn't have at least one response by noon, I'd know I had a REAL
> > problem. I would cancel my Craigslist Ad and figure out what went wrong.
> >
> > But I know roughly what my home is worth, and I know I could sell it 
> for
> > $1,249,500 in a heartbeat.
> >
> > Every broker within 10 miles would contact me by Wednesday night. A
> > dozen real buyers would contact me at that price.
> >
> > Now, maybe I would decide to place an Internet Ad in the New York Times
> > to be on the safe side. Maybe I would place an Internet Ad in Greenwich
> > Time for the same reason. I would probably run Sunday only. All the
> > real buyers would already have seen my home by then, but I might 
> attract
> > a couple of posers who might bump up the price and justify the
> > additional advertising cost. Probably not.
> >
> > I know I couldn't get $5,000,000 for my house, but I'll bet I could get
> > damn close to $2,500,000 and maybe more. No matter how much I
> > advertise, or what brokers I use, I would not be able to get $5,000,000
> > for my house in the near term. The 5-Day Method with no advertising
> > cost will get me current fair market value in 5 Days.
> >
> > (Please note, the broker fee would run over $100,000 -- the brokers 
> will
> > tell people anything they want to hear to get the listing. I know lots
> > of people in Greenwich who took a million dollars less than they were
> > told they could get while brokers lowered and lowered the price to 
> below
> > the point they could have gotten if they had used the 5-Day Method in
> > the first place. Then they paid the $100,000 commission! Talk about
> > adding injury to insult!)
> >
> > Here in Greenwich we see tens-of-million dollar price
> > reductions--private homes offered for tens of millions of dollars less
> > than brokers told their clients they could get. These homes are offered
> > everywhere. Full page ads in the NYT. Brochures sent to local
> > brokers. Broker Open houses. Private Viewings. MLS. Everything you
> > can think of.
> >
> > But, ultimately, even here in Greenwich, you can't fool the market. If
> > it's not worth $70,000,000 you're not going to get $70,000,000.
> >
> > I'll put it in Craigslist at $17,499,500 on a Wednesday and it'll sell
> > for fair market value Sunday night. It'll be a zoo. Most people won't
> > have the money. But at least 3 real buyers will show up. They will bid
> > against each other. The home will sell for fair market value.
> >
> > Bill Effros
> > Author
> >
> > akmihos at verizon.net wrote:
> > > Bill, I find it hard to believe that you can find a buyer for a 
> multi million $$$ home on Craiglists! Or am I wrong?
> > >
> > > Ari.
> > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
> > >
> > > Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:48:04
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From bill at effros.com  Sun Jun  7 11:34:06 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:34:06 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Renting Home with 5 Day Method
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I rented an apartment in NYC last weekend.  Will provide details as soon 
as I can.

Bill Effros
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M Payton wrote:
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> *None here in San Pedro....I'd like to see you other responses.*
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>
>  
>
> Hello.  Nicole here.  Do any of you have experience using the 5 day 
> method to rent out your homes?  Specifically, I am looking for help on 
> how to structure online ads.  Plan to run the sale next weekend in 
> Northwest Denver, CO.
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From sschruiz at comcast.net  Sun Jun  7 13:14:55 2009
From: sschruiz at comcast.net (Sonia Ruiz)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 12:14:55 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Renting Home with 5 Day Method
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Bill:

Will you please take out my e-mai from your list,

Thank you and God bless you


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  I rented an apartment in NYC last weekend.  Will provide details as soon as I can.

  Bill Effros
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  M Payton wrote: 
    None here in San Pedro..I'd like to see you other responses.




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    Hello.  Nicole here.  Do any of you have experience using the 5 day method to rent out your homes?  Specifically, I am looking for help on how to structure online ads.  Plan to run the sale next weekend in Northwest Denver, CO.








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Hi Bill,

 

I'm not a very successful Realtor at this point.  Hence My reason for trying to innovate and investigating other options besides the MLS to provide service to my clients.  I was really impressed w/ your explanation of the slow dutch auction in the MLS in your book.  I'd never thought about it.  I am also a real estate investor.

 

I responded to your statements in the body of your e-mail.  My point of this e-mail is not to argue/debate w/ you.  My point is to find a method to provide better service/value to my clients so I can make money.  I think you have alot of great experience insights w/ the 5 day sale that you might be willing to share to help me.

 

I was wondering if you have seen any realtors successfully use your system or a modification of your system.  I spent quite a bit of time investigating.  I saw a few realtors looked like they tried an auction similar to yours but did not seem to do many auctions.  It looked like some people had become successful consultants using your system.  I work in a two person real estate firm so I do have the option of innovating whereas some of the larger firms like Keller Williams are probably pretty happy w/ the status quo.

 

When I was reading your book, it said Australian Broker/Agents use this system.  Any links/resources on this?

 

It is pretty cool to be talking to a celebrity like you.  When I was investigating, I watched you on the Donahue show and a couple other shows I think.  I respect that you moderate your own board.

 

Any help appreciated,

Best Regards,

 

Kirk

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 





Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:32:39 -0400
From: bill at effros.com
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted

Kirk,

As noted by Rosemarie, I have answered these questions repeatedly, please look in the archives for details.

The short answers:

1.  I ALWAYS SELL THE HOUSE TO THE HIGH BIDDER -- I NEVER USE ANY KIND OF RESERVE -- "LYING"?

(As an aside, is it "lying" when a Realtor tells a client he can estimate the value of home and the home is subsequently sold at a fraction of the estimate?)

 

***an estimate is just that.  If I can pull up comparables to support my case.  It's not lying.  Do some Realtors LIE to get listings?  YES.  Have I seen Realtors w/ really poor ethics? YES.  If I advertise my current residence for $39,500 knowing full well I will accept nothing less than $80,000......I'm an Air Force Academy graduate w/a degree in economics, so I've had my share of ethics training.


2.  It is completely unethical to use the 5-Day Method to compile buyer leads, or for sellers to sell their leads to brokers.  This is a classic "Bait and Switch" scam, and they'll knock you off Craigslist if anyone reports you are doing it.

 

***it's not bait and switch if you ask the buyers when they show up or on Craigslist if they would be interested in being notified of future auctions.

3.  Brokers get lower prices when they run 5-Day Sales than homeowners would get precisely because buyers understand that brokers are playing all kinds of angles.  This method was designed for people-to-people transactions, and real buyers don't give their high bid to professionals whom they suspect will then attempt to bump up their bid after the bidding is over.


***Broker's get lower prices because after the first auction people understand that the broker won't accept what was said to be the highest bid?


4.  The auctioneer was wrong with regard to sales by individuals.

***I'll ask the auctioneer again if it's a private individual.  The auctioneer is a pretty smart individual.

5.  Your investor did not run the sale properly.  18 responses means the price is too high.  The home would have gone for more if the 5-Day sale were run properly.

 

***I agree.

6.  As you can see.  The Method works.  Your investor could not get what he "wanted" for the house no matter what he did.  He could only get its current value.  The 5-Day Method, starting at $24,750 would have gotten him $51,000 at no cost in 5 days.  If he put it in at $29,500 and failed to get 25 responses by Friday night, he should have known right then and there he was unlikely to get his "hoped for" price of $65,000.  Then it's time to either fish or cut bait.

 

***I agree w/ what you are saying.  But he already spent $1,000 on advertising.  I think he could have advertised it for MUCH less and much better.  I had my advertising to $300 for running a 5 day on my own residence.  

7.  There is no reason to offer brokers anything for driving their clients around.  Those clients are going to find 5-Day Sales all by themselves, drive themselves over, and buy the homes for less than they would have to pay if the broker had to be paid for driving people around.


***I disagree.  Brokers will have qualified candidates.  Brokers may see the ad.  Going w/ net to seller and offer 3% or so.  Some people do not feel comfortable w/o the help of a professional and if a broker brings the buyer...


8.  It should be clear by now that the "bottom feeders" and "investors" and "flippers" who bought houses "cheap" and "below bank appraisals" and "for less than my broker says he can get" for the past several years were buying and selling to each other at absurdly inflated prices they will never be able to recover.  They are all going bankrupt right now, and an incredible percentage of mortgages are going into foreclosure.  This situation won't improve any time soon.  In the meanwhile, people who use the 5-Day Method will be able to sell their homes at current market value in 5 Days with virtually no selling cost.

Gotta run--it's all in the archives,

Bill Effros
Author



Kirk Ras wrote: 



Hi Bill,
 
I've read your book twice.  I'm a Realtor.
 
How is it not lying when you tell everyone it will be sold to the highest bidder and start the price at half of your estimated value?  The house will not be sold to the highest bidder unless it is above a reserve price.
 
I've only got one data point for central IL.
 
My broker had an investment interest in a house.  The investor was trying through using the MLS to get $65k out of the house.  I was talking w/ the investor about lease options to 5-day auctions.  I lend the investor my five day auction book.
 
Investor then takes my book and decides to host the auction himself.  My broker and I were planning to do the auction for free since my broker had an investment interest in the house.  I wanted to see if your 5 day method actually worked and I wanted the buyer leads.
 
Well this "investor" decides to run the auction himself.  He advertises in the local paper and on Craigslist.  He gets 18 calls by Friday.  He might have been overpriced I think he was at $29,500.  Additionally I think he probably could have done better with his advertising.  He decided to continue with the auction since he spent the dollars for advertising.   
 
After they basically "steal" my suggestion and after none of the buyers are interested in their house at the RESERVE price and I spend my weekend helping them, they won't share the buyer leads.
 
I've noticed people offering compensations of 1% -  Gee let me drive my clients around to 20 houses and help them find a house.  I really hope they buy your 1% of a $250,000 house.  Hmmm then split with the broker.  Wow I go a whole $1250 for doing the whole transaction.
 
My broker talked to a local auctioneer.  He said once the ad went in for the house at $29,500 the seller was obligated to sell to anyone at or above $29,500 (should have included - something about reserve price.)  I'm not sure this is true in all states.  I'm not 100% positive about IL.  Have you heard of anyone being forced to sell the house for the highest bid?
 
Well my broker lowered the price in the MLS.  The house has an accepted offer for $51k.
 
I've been very tempted to try to sell my house using the five day method because:
1.  I want to get the buyer leads
2.  If we can help people auction their homes we should be able to differentiate ourselves and make more money and make people happier to have their house sold so quickly.
 
I have chickened out.  I think I will get more money using the MLS or not sell my home.  I'm fine with not selling my home.  Many people that came to the auction were "bottom feeders." or naive people that actually thought the house would be sold to the highest bidder.  The auction attendees final bidders weren't the happiest.  "anything that is too good to be true probably is."
 
Do you know any Realtors that use your method or a variation on your method?
 
I would think if your method worked so great realtors would be lining up to do your 5-day auctions.
 
Help the seller:
1.  Declutter their house
2.  Do the Big Bang for buck fixes
3.  Stage house
4.  Advertise auction
5.  Host auction
 
Do you have any more info on how brokers/agents conduct these auctions in Australia or a link?
 
I would really like to develop a variation of the 5 day to give my clients great service.  Any thoughts or insights appreciated.
 
Apologies -  This probably is not the correct way to post to this forum.
Best Regards,
 
Kirk 
 
 
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 11:07:57 -0400
> From: bill at effros.com
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
> 
> Ari,
> 
> You are wrong.
> 
> I own a multi million dollar home. I live in an area where almost every 
> home is a multi million dollar home.
> 
> Craigslist would be the first place I would look, and the first place I 
> would advertise.
> 
> Let's say I think my home is worth $2,500,000.
> 
> I would advertise on Wednesday morning at $1,249,500 on Craigslist.
> 
> If I didn't have at least one response by noon, I'd know I had a REAL 
> problem. I would cancel my Craigslist Ad and figure out what went wrong.
> 
> But I know roughly what my home is worth, and I know I could sell it for 
> $1,249,500 in a heartbeat.
> 
> Every broker within 10 miles would contact me by Wednesday night. A 
> dozen real buyers would contact me at that price.
> 
> Now, maybe I would decide to place an Internet Ad in the New York Times 
> to be on the safe side. Maybe I would place an Internet Ad in Greenwich 
> Time for the same reason. I would probably run Sunday only. All the 
> real buyers would already have seen my home by then, but I might attract 
> a couple of posers who might bump up the price and justify the 
> additional advertising cost. Probably not.
> 
> I know I couldn't get $5,000,000 for my house, but I'll bet I could get 
> damn close to $2,500,000 and maybe more. No matter how much I 
> advertise, or what brokers I use, I would not be able to get $5,000,000 
> for my house in the near term. The 5-Day Method with no advertising 
> cost will get me current fair market value in 5 Days. 
> 
> (Please note, the broker fee would run over $100,000 -- the brokers will 
> tell people anything they want to hear to get the listing. I know lots 
> of people in Greenwich who took a million dollars less than they were 
> told they could get while brokers lowered and lowered the price to below 
> the point they could have gotten if they had used the 5-Day Method in 
> the first place. Then they paid the $100,000 commission! Talk about 
> adding injury to insult!)
> 
> Here in Greenwich we see tens-of-million dollar price 
> reductions--private homes offered for tens of millions of dollars less 
> than brokers told their clients they could get. These homes are offered 
> everywhere. Full page ads in the NYT. Brochures sent to local 
> brokers. Broker Open houses. Private Viewings. MLS. Everything you 
> can think of.
> 
> But, ultimately, even here in Greenwich, you can't fool the market. If 
> it's not worth $70,000,000 you're not going to get $70,000,000.
> 
> I'll put it in Craigslist at $17,499,500 on a Wednesday and it'll sell 
> for fair market value Sunday night. It'll be a zoo. Most people won't 
> have the money. But at least 3 real buyers will show up. They will bid 
> against each other. The home will sell for fair market value.
> 
> Bill Effros
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> akmihos at verizon.net wrote:
> > Bill, I find it hard to believe that you can find a buyer for a multi million $$$ home on Craiglists! Or am I wrong?
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From kylf522 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  8 13:30:24 2009
From: kylf522 at yahoo.com (Kyle Frakes)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:30:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Results - Kansas City
Message-ID: <396470.79243.qm@web83205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



We finished our sale last night...wow what a lot of fun and we got to meet a lot of great people at the same time!  We advertised on MLS flat fee listing, craigslist, and had signs put out at strategic locations close by.  We listed the MLS with 1% commission for buyers agent and offered 1% discount to individuals without agents.

Prior to the sale we stripped all the old wallpaper, put fresh paint in the common areas and and installed new carpeting on the entire main level.  Definitely worth the investment as the flooring was a little dated.  The house is in move in condition even though there are some minor defects with the exterior siding that needs to be repaired.

We had a lot of traffic there was definitely a buzz in the neighborhood about our sale!  One neighbor said at one time there were five cars lined up looking at the house and this was all before we had the open house.  We listed on the MLS a little early which was good because it took time fighting woith the flat fee listing agent to get things listed correctly and it also takes some time for it to roll up to all the different websites.  We received about a third from MLS and a third from Craigslist and a third from signs.

House was advertised at $49,500.  We had a total of 21 bidders and all but eight dropped out after the first round.  Most were gone around $65k.  The last three buyers went to almost $100k and the highest bid was $103k.  The biddign took 2.5 hosue to complete and went for a total of 12 rounds.  I think this is a great price considering we do not have to pay $6000 in realtor commision.   I heard from an economist with the KC federal reserve that there is an 8 month supply of homes inthe Kansas City area.  With the cost of interest, taxes, insurance and the like added in because the house in unoccupied, the overall cost for 8 months of conventional realtor listing would haved been about $12,000.  The people buying the hosue are thrilled to get the house for the price and we are extremely happy as well.  We are signing the contract tonight and are planning to close by the end of the month.  The buyer said they were going to start packing at 10:30pm last
 night!  BILL'S METHOD WORKS!!!

One more comment about the advertising.  Our high bidder came from the MLS listing and of the other two one was related to someone in the neighborhood who saw the sign in my yard and the other was from our local signs.  While we did get a lot of hits from Craigslist none of them were in the bidding very long.  I am not sure I totally agree with Bill that the qualtiy of bidders from signs is lower and most of the bidders from Craigslist seemed to be looking form something really cheap also.  In our case the second high bidder was from a local sign and the people just stopped by to take a look on Sunday.

The other interesting point is that the you really have no idea if the person you are showing the house will be the high bidders.  I was suprised that some bideers I thought would go far dropped early and some I thought would drop stayed in longer.  So like Bill says treat everyone that comes like they will be the final bidder!  That is exactly what we did!
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From akmihos at verizon.net  Mon Jun  8 15:07:44 2009
From: akmihos at verizon.net (akmihos at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:07:44 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Results - Kansas City
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Congratulations. Question I have is since you advertised in MLS for $49,500 and let's say you did not get any offers higher than $49,500, aren't you obligated by contract to sell at that price? MLS has some pretty strict rules on this. I guess you toolk the chance and hoped for the best?
Ari.
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From soakupthesuninc at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  8 15:08:46 2009
From: soakupthesuninc at yahoo.com (Soak Up the Sun)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:08:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Results - Kansas City
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Congratulations Kyle!
Great to hear a success story, and I hope all goes well through closing!
Lauri




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Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 12:30:24 PM
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Results - Kansas City




We finished our sale last night...wow what a lot of fun and we got to meet a lot of great people at the same time!  We advertised on MLS flat fee listing, craigslist, and had signs put out at strategic locations close by.  We listed the MLS with 1% commission for buyers agent and offered 1% discount to individuals without agents.

Prior to the sale we stripped all the old wallpaper, put fresh paint in the common areas and and installed new carpeting on the entire main level.  Definitely worth the investment as the flooring was a little dated.  The house is in move in condition even though there are some minor defects with the exterior siding that needs to be repaired.

We had a lot of traffic there was definitely a buzz in the neighborhood about our sale!  One neighbor said at one time there were five cars lined up looking at the house and this was all before we had the open house.  We listed on the MLS a little early which was good because it took time fighting woith the flat fee listing agent to get things listed correctly and it also takes some time for it to roll up to all the different websites.  We received about a third from MLS and a third from Craigslist and a third from signs.

House was advertised at $49,500.  We had a total of 21 bidders and all but eight dropped out after the first round.  Most were gone around $65k.  The last three buyers went to almost $100k and the highest bid was $103k.  The biddign took 2.5 hosue to complete and went for a total of 12 rounds.  I think this is a great price considering we do not have to pay $6000 in realtor commision.   I heard from an economist with the KC federal reserve that there is an 8 month supply of homes inthe Kansas City area.  With the cost of interest, taxes, insurance and the like added in because the house in unoccupied, the overall cost for 8 months of conventional realtor listing would haved been about $12,000.  The people buying the hosue are thrilled to get the house for the price and we are extremely happy as well.  We are signing the contract tonight and are planning to close by the end of the month.  The buyer said they were going to start packing at 10:30pm last
 night!  BILL'S METHOD WORKS!!!

One more comment about the advertising.  Our high bidder came from the MLS listing and of the other two one was related to someone in the neighborhood who saw the sign in my yard and the other was from our local signs.  While we did get a lot of hits from Craigslist none of them were in the bidding very long.  I am not sure I totally agree with Bill that the qualtiy of bidders from signs is lower and most of the bidders from Craigslist seemed to be looking form something really cheap also.  In our case the second high bidder was from a local sign and the people just stopped by to take a look on Sunday.

The other interesting point is that the you really have no idea if the person you are showing the house will be the high bidders.  I was suprised that some bideers I thought would go far dropped early and some I thought would drop stayed in longer.  So like Bill says treat everyone that comes like they will be the final bidder!  That is exactly what we did!
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From jawgnat at gt.rr.com  Mon Jun  8 15:48:44 2009
From: jawgnat at gt.rr.com (Jeannette Freeman)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:48:44 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
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Sounds good, Bill. Thanks!

Jeannette
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From mottlyn at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  8 21:46:07 2009
From: mottlyn at yahoo.com (Lyn Mott)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 18:46:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Results - Kansas City
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Great job Kyle!? Would you mind sharing your online ad?
?
The Mott's

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From: Kyle Frakes <kylf522 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale Results - Kansas City
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 12:30 PM










We finished our sale last night...wow what a lot of fun and we got to meet a lot of great people at the same time!? We advertised on MLS flat fee listing, craigslist, and had signs put out at strategic locations close by.? We listed the MLS with 1% commission for buyers agent and offered 1% discount to individuals without agents.

Prior to the sale we stripped all the old wallpaper, put fresh paint in the common areas and and installed new carpeting on the entire main level.? Definitely worth the investment as the flooring was a little dated.? The house is in move in condition even though there are some minor defects with the exterior siding that needs to be repaired.

We had a lot of traffic there was definitely a buzz in the neighborhood about our sale!? One neighbor said at one time there were five cars lined up looking at the house and this was all before we had the open house.? We listed on the MLS a little early which was good because it took time fighting woith the flat fee listing agent to get things listed correctly and it also takes some time for it to roll up to all the different websites.? We received about a third from MLS and a third from Craigslist and a third from signs.

House was advertised at $49,500.? We had a total of 21 bidders and all but eight dropped out after the first round.? Most were gone around $65k.? The last three buyers went to almost $100k and the highest bid was $103k.? The biddign took 2.5 hosue to complete and went for a total of 12 rounds.? I think this is a great price considering we do not have to pay $6000 in realtor commision.?? I heard from an economist with the KC federal reserve that there is an 8 month supply of homes inthe Kansas City area.? With the cost of interest, taxes, insurance and the like added in because the house in unoccupied, the overall cost for 8 months of conventional realtor listing would haved been about $12,000.? The people buying the hosue are thrilled to get the house for the price and we are extremely happy as well.? We are signing the contract tonight and are planning to close by the end of the month.? The buyer said they were going to start packing at
 10:30pm last night!? BILL'S METHOD WORKS!!!

One more comment about the advertising.? Our high bidder came from the MLS listing and of the other two one was related to someone in the neighborhood who saw the sign in my yard and the other was from our local signs.? While we did get a lot of hits from Craigslist none of them were in the bidding very long.? I am not sure I totally agree with Bill that the qualtiy of bidders from signs is lower and most of the bidders from Craigslist seemed to be looking form something really cheap also.? In our case the second high bidder was from a local sign and the people just stopped by to take a look on Sunday.

The other interesting point is that the you really have no idea if the person you are showing the house will be the high bidders.? I was suprised that some bideers I thought would go far dropped early and some I thought would drop stayed in longer.? So like Bill says treat everyone that comes like they will be the final bidder!? That is exactly what we did!



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From mkl28 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 10 08:32:32 2009
From: mkl28 at hotmail.com (mkl28 at hotmail.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:32:32 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Townhome in Union NJ
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From tyno at comcast.net  Thu Jun 11 21:24:59 2009
From: tyno at comcast.net (Tyno)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:24:59 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
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I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling
conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor field all
the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc.  If the realtor is
going to get a commission would there be any reason not to "hire" them to do
a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win? Would a realtor "loose face" with other
realtors with this technique?

 

Thanks in Advance

 

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From bill at effros.com  Fri Jun 12 09:28:57 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:28:57 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
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Tyno,

I've been wrestling with this question for years, and some years I go 
one way and other years I go the other.

Currently I don't think this is a good idea.

5-Day Sales work IMHO because both the buyers and the sellers are just 
ordinary people.  Neither is more sophisticated than the other.  Neither 
is a "pro".

So they bumble their way to a fair market price that each can be happy with.

As soon as some real buyers see a real estate broker, they will head for 
the door and never bid.  They immediately understand that this is no 
longer a negotiation between equals, but that the seller has hired 
someone to take advantage of buyers on the seller's behalf.

Meanwhile, the brokers have a vested interest in making sure 5-Day Sales 
won't work.  They try to steal customers brought in by 5-Day Sellers for 
other homes on which they will receive a full commission.  After failing 
to sell a home in 5 days, they will propose a traditional selling 
arrangement, saying they can get much more the traditional way, and 
taking a full commission.

5-Day Sales are an exhausting amount of work, however you know it is 
coming, and you get enough help in advance.  You must commit to taking 
the high price offered, or you won't get the highest bid possible.  If 
you do it yourself you will be able to sell your home for the most you 
can get in the current market.  If you use a real estate broker you are 
more likely than not to fail.

Bill Effros
Author

Tyno wrote:
>
> I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling 
> conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor field 
> all the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc.  If the 
> realtor is going to get a commission would there be any reason not to 
> "hire" them to do a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win? Would a realtor 
> "loose face" with other realtors with this technique?
>
>  
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
>  
>
> Tyno (Tee-no)
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From hollymac2 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 12 14:34:30 2009
From: hollymac2 at yahoo.com (Holly MacIntyre)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:34:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale
Message-ID: <348262.45514.qm@web53602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Just a couple thoughts to respond.? In following the various contributors over?recent months, and my own 5 day sale experience - it seems (anecdotely at least) that?the 5 Day Sale process works in some cases but [in this market?] more often does not.

The current market as well as the anticpated near future market (considering?new/third wave foreclosures and the increasing volume of "upside down" properties) continue to indicate intense price pressure as well as further price declines (that's before factoring in increasing interest rates...).? This seems to be the overriding dynamic - not Realtors "vested interest in making sure the 5 Day Sale doesn't work."? 
?
Most real estate transactions (over 50% conservatively) are first time buyers and investors opportunistically taking advantage of the declining market.? Most financing - again over 50% is FHA.? The other side of that coin is that over 50% of the real estate transactions currently?are distressed sales (REO/Short Sales, etc) and that trend will definately only increase in the?near term.? And another staggering statistic (local to the Denver/Colorado market) is that just less than half?of all listings in 2008?expired/never sold.
?
It is a buyer's market.? Why would a buyer care if a Realtor was involved or not?? They (buyers) drive either way.? In fact, why would a buyer NOT take advantage of a Realtor's services - they will end up getting their price again, either way.? It is the seller who is hit with concessions (whatever they are...)
?
Many recent 5 Day Sale experiences (shared in this forum)?are establishing that in this market, the advertised 1/2 price bid sale definately attracts?"bottom feeders" and investors; while in many cases, not simultaneously attracting the preferred buyer. 
?
If buyers?have no dis-incentive to work with Realtors - what about sellers?? Given over 50% of sales are distressed?and?usually?go for less than what?5 Day Sale-ers hope for?(buyers get a "buyer bonus" in the form of a discount for taking a bank problem off the bank's hands...).? Could that differential be a Realtor fee?? Maybe close, but regardless, sellers pay the difference one way or another.? Of course, not all Realtors are created equal, but since price is the real driving force, price is the great equalizer.
?
Do I have a bias?? I think so.? After years of real estate investing, and getting clobbered recently with the downturn plus a failed 5 Day Sale (it was a realtor who brought in the preferred buyer within two weeks of my bid sale...) AND the current market stats and trends - I became a Realtor!? Even tho I've always had very strong negative feelings about Realtors, it still seems clear to me that it will be Realtor transactions (already in excess of 50% of transactions) for the next years to come - to get this current housing market mess cleared out.? 
?
What say you?
Holly - Colorado
?
?
?
?
?
?????? 
?
? 

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From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 1:28 PM


Tyno,

I've been wrestling with this question for years, and some years I go one way and other years I go the other.

Currently I don't think this is a good idea.

5-Day Sales work IMHO because both the buyers and the sellers are just ordinary people.? Neither is more sophisticated than the other.? Neither is a "pro".

So they bumble their way to a fair market price that each can be happy with.

As soon as some real buyers see a real estate broker, they will head for the door and never bid.? They immediately understand that this is no longer a negotiation between equals, but that the seller has hired someone to take advantage of buyers on the seller's behalf.

Meanwhile, the brokers have a vested interest in making sure 5-Day Sales won't work.? They try to steal customers brought in by 5-Day Sellers for other homes on which they will receive a full commission.? After failing to sell a home in 5 days, they will propose a traditional selling arrangement, saying they can get much more the traditional way, and taking a full commission.

5-Day Sales are an exhausting amount of work, however you know it is coming, and you get enough help in advance.? You must commit to taking the high price offered, or you won't get the highest bid possible.? If you do it yourself you will be able to sell your home for the most you can get in the current market.? If you use a real estate broker you are more likely than not to fail.

Bill Effros
Author

Tyno wrote: 






I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor field all the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc. ?If the realtor is going to get a commission would there be any reason not to "hire" them to do a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win? Would a realtor "loose face" with other realtors with this technique?
?
Thanks in Advance
?
Tyno (Tee-no)
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From joanvickers13 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 13 08:22:26 2009
From: joanvickers13 at yahoo.com (Joan Vickers)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:22:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale
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Hi Holly, 
I am also a Realtor. I think you are right on with your comments. I am licensed in Utah and California. I have been reading the forum and have read Bill's book and putting it all together as an agent. I am going to have my first 5 day sale for a client next week. Any advise? I am writing my rules today and hopefully can pull this off as I would like to help my clients sell their investment property that they are upside down on. Did you have Auction signs made? Any advise on the rules or anything you know, I would appreciate.
Thank you, Joan



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To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:34:30 PM
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale


Just a couple thoughts to respond.  In following the various contributors over recent months, and my own 5 day sale experience - it seems (anecdotely at least) that the 5 Day Sale process works in some cases but [in this market?] more often does not.

The current market as well as the anticpated near future market (considering new/third wave foreclosures and the increasing volume of "upside down" properties) continue to indicate intense price pressure as well as further price declines (that's before factoring in increasing interest rates...).  This seems to be the overriding dynamic - not Realtors "vested interest in making sure the 5 Day Sale doesn't work."  
 
Most real estate transactions (over 50% conservatively) are first time buyers and investors opportunistically taking advantage of the declining market.  Most financing - again over 50% is FHA.  The other side of that coin is that over 50% of the real estate transactions currently are distressed sales (REO/Short Sales, etc) and that trend will definately only increase in the near term.  And another staggering statistic (local to the Denver/Colorado market) is that just less than half of all listings in 2008 expired/never sold.
 
It is a buyer's market.  Why would a buyer care if a Realtor was involved or not?  They (buyers) drive either way.  In fact, why would a buyer NOT take advantage of a Realtor's services - they will end up getting their price again, either way.  It is the seller who is hit with concessions (whatever they are...)
 
Many recent 5 Day Sale experiences (shared in this forum) are establishing that in this market, the advertised 1/2 price bid sale definately attracts "bottom feeders" and investors; while in many cases, not simultaneously attracting the preferred buyer. 
 
If buyers have no dis-incentive to work with Realtors - what about sellers?  Given over 50% of sales are distressed and usually go for less than what 5 Day Sale-ers hope for (buyers get a "buyer bonus" in the form of a discount for taking a bank problem off the bank's hands...).  Could that differential be a Realtor fee?  Maybe close, but regardless, sellers pay the difference one way or another.  Of course, not all Realtors are created equal, but since price is the real driving force, price is the great equalizer.
 
Do I have a bias?  I think so.  After years of real estate investing, and getting clobbered recently with the downturn plus a failed 5 Day Sale (it was a realtor who brought in the preferred buyer within two weeks of my bid sale...) AND the current market stats and trends - I became a Realtor!  Even tho I've always had very strong negative feelings about Realtors, it still seems clear to me that it will be Realtor transactions (already in excess of 50% of transactions) for the next years to come - to get this current housing market mess cleared out.  
 
What say you?
Holly - Colorado
 
 
 
 
 
       
 
  

--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:


From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 1:28 PM


Tyno,

I've been wrestling with this question for years, and some years I go one way and other years I go the other.

Currently I don't think this is a good idea.

5-Day Sales work IMHO because both the buyers and the sellers are just ordinary people.  Neither is more sophisticated than the other.  Neither is a "pro".

So they bumble their way to a fair market price that each can be happy with.

As soon as some real buyers see a real estate broker, they will head for the door and never bid.  They immediately understand that this is no longer a negotiation between equals, but that the seller has hired someone to take advantage of buyers on the seller's behalf.

Meanwhile, the brokers have a vested interest in making sure 5-Day Sales won't work.  They try to steal customers brought in by 5-Day Sellers for other homes on which they will receive a full commission.  After failing to sell a home in 5 days, they will propose a traditional selling arrangement, saying they can get much more the traditional way, and taking a full commission.

5-Day Sales are an exhausting amount of work, however you know it is coming, and you get enough help in advance.  You must commit to taking the high price offered, or you won't get the highest bid possible.  If you do it yourself you will be able to sell your home for the most you can get in the current market.  If you use a real estate broker you are more likely than not to fail.

Bill Effros
Author

Tyno wrote: 
I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor field all the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc.  If the realtor is going to get a commission would there be any reason not to "hire" them to do a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win? Would a realtor "loose face" with other realtors with this technique?
 
Thanks in Advance 
  
Tyno (Tee-no) 
 

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From tomwilson64 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 13 09:41:19 2009
From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 08:41:19 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale
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Just one man's opinion here and not intended to be personal against realtors
as a focus, but to me, involving a realtor in any way in a 5-day sale would
mostly spoil it.  Realtors are considered pros, an image they've nurtured
for some time and in the old way of doing things, an image which greatly
benefitted them.  Since I've been out of college, I've sold three homes.
One with a realtor before I knew enough about anything and in that case that
realtor worked against me.  The next one I sold myself via an ad in the
paper and a non-qualifying assumption with a buyer who was ok with me
handling the close.  I worked at a law firm, but wrote the real estate
filings myself.  I was happy with that sale and price.  And finally the
5-day method on my last house and I was very, very happy with my results.

 

I would have never employed a realtor nor had one anywhere near my 5-day
sale.  That's just me.  I believe it's the authenticity of a regular guy
selling his house and being completely transparent, enjoying the process and
making sure everyone knows how it will work that gives those who inspect the
home the sense it's ok to bid.  It's a safe environment.   This sense that
it's safe to bid is the critical factor as to why some 5-day sales fail and
I have to be honest, I'd pause personally if a realtor were involved. 

 

I even had two realtors in the top 3 bidders on my home.  True to form, once
my top bid didn't work out, I had to pass over both the second and third
bidders, the realtors, because both wouldn't honor their actual bid and were
very up front about it.  They wanted to negotiate as if I didn't have any
other bidders.  I would have passed over them anyway just for not honoring
their bid, silly realtors.  I had two other bids who were solid and I was
very happy with the price I got.  They paid cash and we closed in eleven
days.  And they were paying very careful attention to my openness and
transparency in the process as I got quizzed a few times.  All I did was
smile and be honest.  They couldn't believe it could be so easy and I was so
happy it worked.

 

I understand realtors must feel its not fair for all to hold the trophy of
the black eye that many consumers have when trying to save commissions and
get top dollar, but there are many real stories that back it up.  Cheers to
realtors who are genuine, transparent and don't indulge when they could.  My
experiences have shown me many other cases of realtors not being that way
though.  So to me, I would never involve a realtor in a 5-day sale.

 

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.co
m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com] On Behalf Of Joan Vickers
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:22 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale

 

Hi Holly, 

I am also a Realtor. I think you are right on with your comments. I am
licensed in Utah and California. I have been reading the forum and have read
Bill's book and putting it all together as an agent. I am going to have my
first 5 day sale for a client next week. Any advise? I am writing my rules
today and hopefully can pull this off as I would like to help my clients
sell their investment property that they are upside down on. Did you have
Auction signs made? Any advise on the rules or anything you know, I would
appreciate.

Thank you, Joan

 

  _____  

From: Holly MacIntyre <hollymac2 at yahoo.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:34:30 PM
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale


Just a couple thoughts to respond.  In following the various contributors
over recent months, and my own 5 day sale experience - it seems (anecdotely
at least) that the 5 Day Sale process works in some cases but [in this
market?] more often does not.

The current market as well as the anticpated near future market (considering
new/third wave foreclosures and the increasing volume of "upside down"
properties) continue to indicate intense price pressure as well as further
price declines (that's before factoring in increasing interest rates...).
This seems to be the overriding dynamic - not Realtors "vested interest in
making sure the 5 Day Sale doesn't work."  

 

Most real estate transactions (over 50% conservatively) are first time
buyers and investors opportunistically taking advantage of the declining
market.  Most financing - again over 50% is FHA.  The other side of that
coin is that over 50% of the real estate transactions currently are
distressed sales (REO/Short Sales, etc) and that trend will definately only
increase in the near term.  And another staggering statistic (local to the
Denver/Colorado market) is that just less than half of all listings in 2008
expired/never sold.

 

It is a buyer's market.  Why would a buyer care if a Realtor was involved or
not?  They (buyers) drive either way.  In fact, why would a buyer NOT take
advantage of a Realtor's services - they will end up getting their price
again, either way.  It is the seller who is hit with concessions (whatever
they are...)

 

Many recent 5 Day Sale experiences (shared in this forum) are establishing
that in this market, the advertised 1/2 price bid sale definately attracts
"bottom feeders" and investors; while in many cases, not simultaneously
attracting the preferred buyer. 

 

If buyers have no dis-incentive to work with Realtors - what about sellers?
Given over 50% of sales are distressed and usually go for less than what 5
Day Sale-ers hope for (buyers get a "buyer bonus" in the form of a discount
for taking a bank problem off the bank's hands...).  Could that differential
be a Realtor fee?  Maybe close, but regardless, sellers pay the difference
one way or another.  Of course, not all Realtors are created equal, but
since price is the real driving force, price is the great equalizer.

 

Do I have a bias?  I think so.  After years of real estate investing, and
getting clobbered recently with the downturn plus a failed 5 Day Sale (it
was a realtor who brought in the preferred buyer within two weeks of my bid
sale...) AND the current market stats and trends - I became a Realtor!  Even
tho I've always had very strong negative feelings about Realtors, it still
seems clear to me that it will be Realtor transactions (already in excess of
50% of transactions) for the next years to come - to get this current
housing market mess cleared out.  

 

What say you?

Holly - Colorado

 

 

 

 

 

       

 

  


--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:


From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 1:28 PM

Tyno,

I've been wrestling with this question for years, and some years I go one
way and other years I go the other.

Currently I don't think this is a good idea.

5-Day Sales work IMHO because both the buyers and the sellers are just
ordinary people.  Neither is more sophisticated than the other.  Neither is
a "pro".

So they bumble their way to a fair market price that each can be happy with.

As soon as some real buyers see a real estate broker, they will head for the
door and never bid.  They immediately understand that this is no longer a
negotiation between equals, but that the seller has hired someone to take
advantage of buyers on the seller's behalf.

Meanwhile, the brokers have a vested interest in making sure 5-Day Sales
won't work.  They try to steal customers brought in by 5-Day Sellers for
other homes on which they will receive a full commission.  After failing to
sell a home in 5 days, they will propose a traditional selling arrangement,
saying they can get much more the traditional way, and taking a full
commission.

5-Day Sales are an exhausting amount of work, however you know it is coming,
and you get enough help in advance.  You must commit to taking the high
price offered, or you won't get the highest bid possible.  If you do it
yourself you will be able to sell your home for the most you can get in the
current market.  If you use a real estate broker you are more likely than
not to fail.

Bill Effros
Author

Tyno wrote: 

I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling
conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor field all
the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc.  If the realtor is
going to get a commission would there be any reason not to "hire" them to do
a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win? Would a realtor "loose face" with other
realtors with this technique?

 

Thanks in Advance 

  

Tyno (Tee-no) 

 



  

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From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 08:54:49 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale
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I just think you all need to understand that while you have vast expertise
in the process, that is the very thing that is intimidating to buyers who
want to convince themselves the process is authentic and as simple as it
seems.  I don't think I'm at all special in what I know in life with one
exception.  I worked for a law firm (not as an attorney) for several years
and learn that all the fears people have when it comes to transactions are
mostly not real.  It takes some practical thinking, but there are many
sources from which to draw the knowledge.  Working at that law firm
empowered me that I can conduct commerce myself.  And any mistakes are often
overcome when the other side trusts me because I'm not a pro.  

 

I'm still good friends with both couples I sold to myself and have no fears
because I was transparent with them.  It might be a blind spot with realtors
where they can't see why they wouldn't be good for a 5-day sale just the
same as when I look in the mirror, I think I'm the best looking guy in town!

 

 

 

From: Tom Wilson [mailto:tomwilson64 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:26 AM
To: tmwilson at pier1.com
Subject: FW: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale

 

 

 

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.co
m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com] On Behalf Of Joan Vickers
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:22 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale

 

Hi Holly, 

I am also a Realtor. I think you are right on with your comments. I am
licensed in Utah and California. I have been reading the forum and have read
Bill's book and putting it all together as an agent. I am going to have my
first 5 day sale for a client next week. Any advise? I am writing my rules
today and hopefully can pull this off as I would like to help my clients
sell their investment property that they are upside down on. Did you have
Auction signs made? Any advise on the rules or anything you know, I would
appreciate.

Thank you, Joan

 

  _____  

From: Holly MacIntyre <hollymac2 at yahoo.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:34:30 PM
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale


Just a couple thoughts to respond.  In following the various contributors
over recent months, and my own 5 day sale experience - it seems (anecdotely
at least) that the 5 Day Sale process works in some cases but [in this
market?] more often does not.

The current market as well as the anticpated near future market (considering
new/third wave foreclosures and the increasing volume of "upside down"
properties) continue to indicate intense price pressure as well as further
price declines (that's before factoring in increasing interest rates...).
This seems to be the overriding dynamic - not Realtors "vested interest in
making sure the 5 Day Sale doesn't work."  

 

Most real estate transactions (over 50% conservatively) are first time
buyers and investors opportunistically taking advantage of the declining
market.  Most financing - again over 50% is FHA.  The other side of that
coin is that over 50% of the real estate transactions currently are
distressed sales (REO/Short Sales, etc) and that trend will definately only
increase in the near term.  And another staggering statistic (local to the
Denver/Colorado market) is that just less than half of all listings in 2008
expired/never sold.

 

It is a buyer's market.  Why would a buyer care if a Realtor was involved or
not?  They (buyers) drive either way.  In fact, why would a buyer NOT take
advantage of a Realtor's services - they will end up getting their price
again, either way.  It is the seller who is hit with concessions (whatever
they are...)

 

Many recent 5 Day Sale experiences (shared in this forum) are establishing
that in this market, the advertised 1/2 price bid sale definately attracts
"bottom feeders" and investors; while in many cases, not simultaneously
attracting the preferred buyer. 

 

If buyers have no dis-incentive to work with Realtors - what about sellers?
Given over 50% of sales are distressed and usually go for less than what 5
Day Sale-ers hope for (buyers get a "buyer bonus" in the form of a discount
for taking a bank problem off the bank's hands...).  Could that differential
be a Realtor fee?  Maybe close, but regardless, sellers pay the difference
one way or another.  Of course, not all Realtors are created equal, but
since price is the real driving force, price is the great equalizer.

 

Do I have a bias?  I think so.  After years of real estate investing, and
getting clobbered recently with the downturn plus a failed 5 Day Sale (it
was a realtor who brought in the preferred buyer within two weeks of my bid
sale...) AND the current market stats and trends - I became a Realtor!  Even
tho I've always had very strong negative feelings about Realtors, it still
seems clear to me that it will be Realtor transactions (already in excess of
50% of transactions) for the next years to come - to get this current
housing market mess cleared out.  

 

What say you?

Holly - Colorado

 

 

 

 

 

       

 

  


--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:


From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 1:28 PM

Tyno,

I've been wrestling with this question for years, and some years I go one
way and other years I go the other.

Currently I don't think this is a good idea.

5-Day Sales work IMHO because both the buyers and the sellers are just
ordinary people.  Neither is more sophisticated than the other.  Neither is
a "pro".

So they bumble their way to a fair market price that each can be happy with.

As soon as some real buyers see a real estate broker, they will head for the
door and never bid.  They immediately understand that this is no longer a
negotiation between equals, but that the seller has hired someone to take
advantage of buyers on the seller's behalf.

Meanwhile, the brokers have a vested interest in making sure 5-Day Sales
won't work.  They try to steal customers brought in by 5-Day Sellers for
other homes on which they will receive a full commission.  After failing to
sell a home in 5 days, they will propose a traditional selling arrangement,
saying they can get much more the traditional way, and taking a full
commission.

5-Day Sales are an exhausting amount of work, however you know it is coming,
and you get enough help in advance.  You must commit to taking the high
price offered, or you won't get the highest bid possible.  If you do it
yourself you will be able to sell your home for the most you can get in the
current market.  If you use a real estate broker you are more likely than
not to fail.

Bill Effros
Author

Tyno wrote: 

I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling
conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor field all
the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc.  If the realtor is
going to get a commission would there be any reason not to "hire" them to do
a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win? Would a realtor "loose face" with other
realtors with this technique?

 

Thanks in Advance 

  

Tyno (Tee-no) 

 

 
  
 
  


  

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From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:05:24 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale
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Sounds like a pumper for realtors.  I had all sorts of buyers who turned out
for my sale.  No one knew what to expect.  It certainly doesn't sound like
you enjoyed your sale.  I did because I don't ever think of whether people
in a limited time auction as wasting my time.  Maybe that?s a realtor thing?
I don't know.  If anyone was trying to be cheap their just dessert was in
the waste of their time actually.  If they thought they'd get something for
nothing then that was there time they spent.  I treated everyone the same
and enjoyed them because you never know when that cynic might turn into a
genuine buyer or have been one all along.

It's like anything else in life.  People who don't like their job, when they
move to another job, somehow they don't like it either.  Life is all in your
attitude.  People are not a waste of time, they are the reason we do things
in life.  We are all built for relationships, not bank accounts.

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From: Kirk Ras [mailto:kirkras at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:53 AM
To: Tom Wilson 
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale

Well tom..

I became a realtor after trying to sell my house fsbo.

Most buyers wanted to be cheap and waste my time.  I got a higher price and
a closing using a realtor.

Kirk
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: Tom Wilson <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>

Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:41:19 
To: <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale


Just one man's opinion here and not intended to be personal against realtors
as a focus, but to me, involving a realtor in any way in a 5-day sale would
mostly spoil it.? Realtors are considered pros, an image they've nurtured
for some time and in the old way of doing things, an image which greatly
benefitted them.? Since I've been out of college, I've sold three homes.
?One with a realtor before I knew enough about anything and in that case
that realtor worked against me.? The next one I sold myself via an ad in the
paper and a non-qualifying assumption with a buyer who was ok with me
handling the close.? I worked at a law firm, but wrote the real estate
filings myself.? I was happy with that sale and price.? And finally the
5-day method on my last house and I was very, very happy with my results. 
? 
I would have never employed a realtor nor had one anywhere near my 5-day
sale.? That's just me.? I believe it's the authenticity of a regular guy
selling his house and being completely transparent, enjoying the process and
making sure everyone knows how it will work that gives those who inspect the
home the sense it's ok to bid.? It's a safe environment. ??This sense that
it's safe to bid is the critical factor as to why some 5-day sales fail and
I have to be honest, I'd pause personally if a realtor were involved. 
? 
I even had two realtors in the top 3 bidders on my home.? True to form, once
my top bid didn't work out, I had to pass over both the second and third
bidders, the realtors, because both wouldn't honor their actual bid and were
very up front about it.? They wanted to negotiate as if I didn't have any
other bidders.? I would have passed over them anyway just for not honoring
their bid, silly realtors.? I had two other bids who were solid and I was
very happy with the price I got.? They paid cash and we closed in eleven
days.? And they were paying very careful attention to my openness and
transparency in the process as I got quizzed a few times.? All I did was
smile and be honest.? They couldn't believe it could be so easy and I was so
happy it worked. 
? 
I understand realtors must feel its not fair for all to hold the trophy of
the black eye that many consumers have when trying to save commissions and
get top dollar, but there are many real stories that back it up.? Cheers to
realtors who are genuine, transparent and don't indulge when they could.? My
experiences have shown me many other cases of realtors not being that way
though.? So to me, I would never involve a realtor in a 5-day sale. 
? 
 
 
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m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com] On Behalf Of Joan Vickers
 Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:22 AM
 To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale 
? 
 
 
Hi Holly,? 
 
I am also a Realtor. I think you are right on with your comments. I am
licensed in Utah and California. I have been reading the forum and have read
Bill's book and putting it all together as an agent. I am going to have my
first 5 day sale for a client next week. Any advise? I am writing my rules
today and hopefully can pull this off as I would like to help my clients
sell their investment property that they are upside down on. Did you have
Auction signs made? Any advise on the rules or anything you know, I would
appreciate. 
 
Thank you, Joan 
 
? 
 
 
----------------
 
From: Holly MacIntyre <hollymac2 at yahoo.com>
 To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:34:30 PM
 Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale 
 
 
Just a couple thoughts to respond.? In following the various contributors
over?recent months, and my own 5 day sale experience - it seems (anecdotely
at least) that?the 5 Day Sale process works in some cases but [in this
market?] more often does not. 
 
The current market as well as the anticpated near future market
(considering?new/third wave foreclosures and the increasing volume of
"upside down" properties) continue to indicate intense price pressure as
well as further price declines (that's before factoring in increasing
interest rates...).? This seems to be the overriding dynamic - not Realtors
"vested interest in making sure the 5 Day Sale doesn't work."? 
 
? 
 
Most real estate transactions (over 50% conservatively) are first time
buyers and investors opportunistically taking advantage of the declining
market.? Most financing - again over 50% is FHA.? The other side of that
coin is that over 50% of the real estate transactions currently?are
distressed sales (REO/Short Sales, etc) and that trend will definately only
increase in the?near term.? And another staggering statistic (local to the
Denver/Colorado market) is that just less than half?of all listings in
2008?expired/never sold. 
 
? 
 
It is a buyer's market.? Why would a buyer care if a Realtor was involved or
not?? They (buyers) drive either way.? In fact, why would a buyer NOT take
advantage of a Realtor's services - they will end up getting their price
again, either way.? It is the seller who is hit with concessions (whatever
they are...) 
 
? 
 
Many recent 5 Day Sale experiences (shared in this forum)?are establishing
that in this market, the advertised 1/2 price bid sale definately
attracts?"bottom feeders" and investors; while in many cases, not
simultaneously attracting the preferred buyer. 
 
? 
 
If buyers?have no dis-incentive to work with Realtors - what about sellers??
Given over 50% of sales are distressed?and?usually?go for less than what?5
Day Sale-ers hope for?(buyers get a "buyer bonus" in the form of a discount
for taking a bank problem off the bank's hands...).? Could that differential
be a Realtor fee?? Maybe close, but regardless, sellers pay the difference
one way or another.? Of course, not all Realtors are created equal, but
since price is the real driving force, price is the great equalizer. 
 
? 
 
Do I have a bias?? I think so.? After years of real estate investing, and
getting clobbered recently with the downturn plus a failed 5 Day Sale (it
was a realtor who brought in the preferred buyer within two weeks of my bid
sale...) AND the current market stats and trends - I became a Realtor!? Even
tho I've always had very strong negative feelings about Realtors, it still
seems clear to me that it will be Realtor transactions (already in excess of
50% of transactions) for the next years to come - to get this current
housing market mess cleared out.? 
 
? 
 
What say you? 
 
Holly - Colorado 
 
? 
 
? 
 
? 
 
? 
 
? 
 
?????? 
 
? 
 
? 
 

 --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote: 

 From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
 To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
 Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 1:28 PM 
 
Tyno,
 
 I've been wrestling with this question for years, and some years I go one
way and other years I go the other.
 
 Currently I don't think this is a good idea.
 
 5-Day Sales work IMHO because both the buyers and the sellers are just
ordinary people.? Neither is more sophisticated than the other.? Neither is
a "pro".
 
 So they bumble their way to a fair market price that each can be happy
with.
 
 As soon as some real buyers see a real estate broker, they will head for
the door and never bid.? They immediately understand that this is no longer
a negotiation between equals, but that the seller has hired someone to take
advantage of buyers on the seller's behalf.
 
 Meanwhile, the brokers have a vested interest in making sure 5-Day Sales
won't work.? They try to steal customers brought in by 5-Day Sellers for
other homes on which they will receive a full commission.? After failing to
sell a home in 5 days, they will propose a traditional selling arrangement,
saying they can get much more the traditional way, and taking a full
commission.
 
 5-Day Sales are an exhausting amount of work, however you know it is
coming, and you get enough help in advance.? You must commit to taking the
high price offered, or you won't get the highest bid possible.? If you do it
yourself you will be able to sell your home for the most you can get in the
current market.? If you use a real estate broker you are more likely than
not to fail.
 
 Bill Effros
 Author
 
 Tyno wrote: 
 
I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling
conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor field all
the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc. ?If the realtor is
going to get a commission would there be any reason not to "hire" them to do
a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win? Would a realtor "loose face" with other
realtors with this technique? 
? 
Thanks in Advance 
? 
Tyno (Tee-no) 
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From joanvickers13 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 13 12:15:52 2009
From: joanvickers13 at yahoo.com (Joan Vickers)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:15:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale
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Hi Tom.
Thanks for your comments. New Zealand and Australia always have an auction. I think many many places in the world do this and are always done by Realtors. I am not trying to get other buyer leads, not my objective, it will happen, but my very main focus is selling this home for my clients. I agree in many ways with Bill, the method of selling real estate needs to be re-vamped. I think the old way in this market is not getting the results our clients need. A professional Realtor is a very valuable resource. You are a smart guy, sounds like you have a legal background, not everyone can do this by themselves or have the time to do it. Sometimes when it comes to selling your own home, one is too personally involved in it. This happened to me a few years ago, and I hired a Realtor, even though I was a Realtor. I had it on the market myself and I had a few offers and did not take them, I should have. I was too personally connected. All in all, we are very
 highly trained, out clients do not need to hire an attorney or anyone else to help them through all of the negotiations, paperwork, and escrow, etc etc etc. Title and escrow can do what they are suppose to do, and not try to play Realtor or recommend that they consult an attorney.
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From: Tom Wilson <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:05:24 AM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale

Sounds like a pumper for realtors.  I had all sorts of buyers who turned out
for my sale.  No one knew what to expect.  It certainly doesn't sound like
you enjoyed your sale.  I did because I don't ever think of whether people
in a limited time auction as wasting my time.  Maybe that?s a realtor thing?
I don't know.  If anyone was trying to be cheap their just dessert was in
the waste of their time actually.  If they thought they'd get something for
nothing then that was there time they spent.  I treated everyone the same
and enjoyed them because you never know when that cynic might turn into a
genuine buyer or have been one all along.

It's like anything else in life.  People who don't like their job, when they
move to another job, somehow they don't like it either.  Life is all in your
attitude.  People are not a waste of time, they are the reason we do things
in life.  We are all built for relationships, not bank accounts.

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From: Kirk Ras [mailto:kirkras at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:53 AM
To: Tom Wilson 
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale

Well tom..

I became a realtor after trying to sell my house fsbo.

Most buyers wanted to be cheap and waste my time.  I got a higher price and
a closing using a realtor.

Kirk
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: Tom Wilson <tomwilson64 at yahoo.com>

Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:41:19 
To: <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale


Just one man's opinion here and not intended to be personal against realtors
as a focus, but to me, involving a realtor in any way in a 5-day sale would
mostly spoil it.  Realtors are considered pros, an image they've nurtured
for some time and in the old way of doing things, an image which greatly
benefitted them.  Since I've been out of college, I've sold three homes.
 One with a realtor before I knew enough about anything and in that case
that realtor worked against me.  The next one I sold myself via an ad in the
paper and a non-qualifying assumption with a buyer who was ok with me
handling the close.  I worked at a law firm, but wrote the real estate
filings myself.  I was happy with that sale and price.  And finally the
5-day method on my last house and I was very, very happy with my results. 
  
I would have never employed a realtor nor had one anywhere near my 5-day
sale.  That's just me.  I believe it's the authenticity of a regular guy
selling his house and being completely transparent, enjoying the process and
making sure everyone knows how it will work that gives those who inspect the
home the sense it's ok to bid.  It's a safe environment.   This sense that
it's safe to bid is the critical factor as to why some 5-day sales fail and
I have to be honest, I'd pause personally if a realtor were involved. 
  
I even had two realtors in the top 3 bidders on my home.  True to form, once
my top bid didn't work out, I had to pass over both the second and third
bidders, the realtors, because both wouldn't honor their actual bid and were
very up front about it.  They wanted to negotiate as if I didn't have any
other bidders.  I would have passed over them anyway just for not honoring
their bid, silly realtors.  I had two other bids who were solid and I was
very happy with the price I got.  They paid cash and we closed in eleven
days.  And they were paying very careful attention to my openness and
transparency in the process as I got quizzed a few times.  All I did was
smile and be honest.  They couldn't believe it could be so easy and I was so
happy it worked. 
  
I understand realtors must feel its not fair for all to hold the trophy of
the black eye that many consumers have when trying to save commissions and
get top dollar, but there are many real stories that back it up.  Cheers to
realtors who are genuine, transparent and don't indulge when they could.  My
experiences have shown me many other cases of realtors not being that way
though.  So to me, I would never involve a realtor in a 5-day sale. 
  


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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:22 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale 
  


Hi Holly,  

I am also a Realtor. I think you are right on with your comments. I am
licensed in Utah and California. I have been reading the forum and have read
Bill's book and putting it all together as an agent. I am going to have my
first 5 day sale for a client next week. Any advise? I am writing my rules
today and hopefully can pull this off as I would like to help my clients
sell their investment property that they are upside down on. Did you have
Auction signs made? Any advise on the rules or anything you know, I would
appreciate. 

Thank you, Joan 

  


----------------

From: Holly MacIntyre <hollymac2 at yahoo.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:34:30 PM
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale 


Just a couple thoughts to respond.  In following the various contributors
over recent months, and my own 5 day sale experience - it seems (anecdotely
at least) that the 5 Day Sale process works in some cases but [in this
market?] more often does not. 

The current market as well as the anticpated near future market
(considering new/third wave foreclosures and the increasing volume of
"upside down" properties) continue to indicate intense price pressure as
well as further price declines (that's before factoring in increasing
interest rates...).  This seems to be the overriding dynamic - not Realtors
"vested interest in making sure the 5 Day Sale doesn't work."  

  

Most real estate transactions (over 50% conservatively) are first time
buyers and investors opportunistically taking advantage of the declining
market.  Most financing - again over 50% is FHA.  The other side of that
coin is that over 50% of the real estate transactions currently are
distressed sales (REO/Short Sales, etc) and that trend will definately only
increase in the near term.  And another staggering statistic (local to the
Denver/Colorado market) is that just less than half of all listings in
2008 expired/never sold. 

  

It is a buyer's market.  Why would a buyer care if a Realtor was involved or
not?  They (buyers) drive either way.  In fact, why would a buyer NOT take
advantage of a Realtor's services - they will end up getting their price
again, either way.  It is the seller who is hit with concessions (whatever
they are...) 

  

Many recent 5 Day Sale experiences (shared in this forum) are establishing
that in this market, the advertised 1/2 price bid sale definately
attracts "bottom feeders" and investors; while in many cases, not
simultaneously attracting the preferred buyer. 

  

If buyers have no dis-incentive to work with Realtors - what about sellers? 
Given over 50% of sales are distressed and usually go for less than what 5
Day Sale-ers hope for (buyers get a "buyer bonus" in the form of a discount
for taking a bank problem off the bank's hands...).  Could that differential
be a Realtor fee?  Maybe close, but regardless, sellers pay the difference
one way or another.  Of course, not all Realtors are created equal, but
since price is the real driving force, price is the great equalizer. 

  

Do I have a bias?  I think so.  After years of real estate investing, and
getting clobbered recently with the downturn plus a failed 5 Day Sale (it
was a realtor who brought in the preferred buyer within two weeks of my bid
sale...) AND the current market stats and trends - I became a Realtor!  Even
tho I've always had very strong negative feelings about Realtors, it still
seems clear to me that it will be Realtor transactions (already in excess of
50% of transactions) for the next years to come - to get this current
housing market mess cleared out.  

  

What say you? 

Holly - Colorado 

  

  

  

  

  

       

  

  


--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote: 

From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 1:28 PM 

Tyno,

I've been wrestling with this question for years, and some years I go one
way and other years I go the other.

Currently I don't think this is a good idea.

5-Day Sales work IMHO because both the buyers and the sellers are just
ordinary people.  Neither is more sophisticated than the other.  Neither is
a "pro".

So they bumble their way to a fair market price that each can be happy
with.

As soon as some real buyers see a real estate broker, they will head for
the door and never bid.  They immediately understand that this is no longer
a negotiation between equals, but that the seller has hired someone to take
advantage of buyers on the seller's behalf.

Meanwhile, the brokers have a vested interest in making sure 5-Day Sales
won't work.  They try to steal customers brought in by 5-Day Sellers for
other homes on which they will receive a full commission.  After failing to
sell a home in 5 days, they will propose a traditional selling arrangement,
saying they can get much more the traditional way, and taking a full
commission.

5-Day Sales are an exhausting amount of work, however you know it is
coming, and you get enough help in advance.  You must commit to taking the
high price offered, or you won't get the highest bid possible.  If you do it
yourself you will be able to sell your home for the most you can get in the
current market.  If you use a real estate broker you are more likely than
not to fail.

Bill Effros
Author

Tyno wrote: 

I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling
conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor field all
the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc.  If the realtor is
going to get a commission would there be any reason not to "hire" them to do
a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win? Would a realtor "loose face" with other
realtors with this technique? 
  
Thanks in Advance 
  
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From: charles.jackson2 at yahoo.com (Charles Jackson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:24:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] To Busy To Host Your Own 5-day Sale? Let Me Do It For
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Last week I hosted a 5-day sale in Baltimore and did exactly?what the book said and trusted the process. Everything the book said would happen did. We got over 25 responses by Friday, alot of traffic Saturday and Sunday and the real 3 bidders by Sunday night at 8pm. We are still negotiating working out an agreement with the highest bidder now. 
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From jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 19:23:54 2009
From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com (James Fleming)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:23:54 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
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Tyno,

 

I'd like to respond to your three questions from a Realtor's viewpoint.
I'll start with your last question and move from last to first.  

 

Q: Would a realtor "loose face" with other realtors with this technique?

A: Experienced Realtors know that they have a fiduciary responsibility to
their clients.  As a listing agent that includes, but is not limited to,
getting the best price possible for your seller in the shortest reasonable
time.  As a general rule, Realtors cannot conduct 5-Day sales exactly as
taught in Bill's book without being in violation of that fiduciary
responsibility because it does not get the best possible price.  However,
Bill's basic concept is sound.  With a few adjustments, it can be used very
effectively.  Realtors have been using the same basic concept since long
before Bill wrote his book.  That said, no Realtor will lose face for trying
to get the best possible price for his seller in the shortest reasonable
time.  However, using the technique exactly as written could result in
significant liability for a Realtor unless the seller agrees in advance to
be satisfied with 1) the very limited exposure the property receives and 2)
the brief time the property gets on the market. 

 

Q: Isn't this a win-win?

A: Yes, absolutely.  Using the Realtor's variation on this technique will
get the seller the best price possible in the shortest reasonable amount of
time.  The seller wins, the buyer wins, and the Realtor wins.  I guess that
makes it a win-win-win.

 

Q: If the realtor is going to get a commission would there be any reason not
to "hire" them to do a 5-day sale?

A: Absolutely not.  Hiring an experienced Realtor is the smartest thing you
can do in this market.  As a matter of fact, Realtor's who understand how to
market properties using this basic concept (adapted appropriately), are very
successful with it.  The two market conditions during which this method is
most effective are 1) during times of rapid increases of property values,
and 2) during times of market implosion.  We are clearly experiencing the
latter.   Note: In stable markets, this method does not get the best price
for a property; it only gets the "I have to dump my property this weekend,
what will you give me for it?" price.  That is another topic which I am
happy to discuss, but it takes us away from your question here.

 

Many sellers are upside down in their mortgages today.  They are facing
short sales.   Getting a buyer is only the beginning of the process when a
short sale is involved.  The bank's loss mitigation negotiator will want a
complete listing history of your sale that proves that you did your best to
get the best price possible.  Believe me when I tell you that a lender will
not be inclined to accept an offer that is the result of only 5 days of
marketing.   Lenders will order a BPO (Broker's Price Opinion) or sometimes
an appraisal.  The FHA, for example, requires offers to be within 85% of
market value (as determined by an FHA appraisal) in order to be considered.
And this is only the uppermost tip of the iceberg when it comes to the
myriad of issues involved in negotiating a short sale.  What you don't know
can kill a deal.

 

I don't normally do this, but in this post I am including my contact
information for anyone who wishes to learn more about short sales.  You are
welcome to go to my site and download the forms and information for free.  A
short sale can be done without a Realtor, but the chances of success are
quite slim.  If you decide to use a Realtor and your Realtor wishes to
contact me, I will gladly help her or him with your short sale.  For any
Realtors who are reading this, don't hesitate to contact me for a
brainstorming session.

 

Best of luck,

 

Jim, Realtor

Vancouver WA

 

James Fleming NAR

Short Sale Manager, Principal 

Fleming Realty Group | Keller Williams Premier Partners Realty

915 Broadway, First Floor, Vancouver WA 98660    

' 360.771.3003 |  7 360.702.0777 
* jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com

 

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To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor

 

I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling
conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor field all
the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc.  If the realtor is
going to get a commission would there be any reason not to "hire" them to do
a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win? Would a realtor "loose face" with other
realtors with this technique?

 

Thanks in Advance

 

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Bill,

When the broker within 10 miles contact you by Wednesday night, what
would you do? Should we welcome the broker to bring potential buyer or
should we tell them that we are going to sell it ourselves?

Thanks,
Jennifer


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From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:07:57 -0400
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Advertising Suggestions Wanted
Ari,

You are wrong.

I own a multi million dollar home.  I live in an area where almost
every home is a multi million dollar home.

Craigslist would be the first place I would look, and the first place
I would advertise.

Let's say I think my home is worth $2,500,000.

I would advertise on Wednesday morning at $1,249,500 on Craigslist.

If I didn't have at least one response by noon, I'd know I had a REAL
problem.  I would cancel my Craigslist Ad and figure out what went
wrong.

But I know roughly what my home is worth, and I know I could sell it
for $1,249,500 in a heartbeat.

Every broker within 10 miles would contact me by Wednesday night. A
dozen real buyers would contact me at that price.

Now, maybe I would decide to place an Internet Ad in the New York
Times to be on the safe side.  Maybe I would place an Internet Ad in
Greenwich Time for the same reason.  I would probably run Sunday only.
 All the real buyers would already have seen my home by then, but I
might attract a couple of posers who might bump up the price and
justify the additional advertising cost.  Probably not.

I know I couldn't get $5,000,000 for my house, but I'll bet I could
get damn close to $2,500,000  and maybe more.  No matter how much I
advertise, or what brokers I use, I would not be able to get
$5,000,000 for my house in the near term.  The 5-Day Method with no
advertising cost will get me current fair market value in 5 Days.
(Please note, the broker fee would run over $100,000 -- the brokers
will tell people anything they want to hear to get the listing.  I
know lots of people in Greenwich who took a million dollars less than
they were told they could get while brokers lowered and lowered the
price to below the point they could have gotten if they had used the
5-Day Method in the first place.  Then they paid the $100,000
commission!  Talk about adding injury to insult!)

Here in Greenwich we see tens-of-million dollar price
reductions--private homes offered for tens of millions of dollars less
than brokers told their clients they could get.  These homes are
offered everywhere.  Full page ads in the NYT.  Brochures sent to
local brokers.  Broker Open houses.  Private Viewings. MLS.
Everything you can think of.

But, ultimately, even here in Greenwich, you can't fool the market.
If it's not worth $70,000,000 you're not going to get $70,000,000.

I'll put it in Craigslist at $17,499,500 on a Wednesday and it'll sell
for fair market value Sunday night.  It'll be a zoo.  Most people
won't have the money.  But at least 3 real buyers will show up.  They
will bid against each other.  The home will sell for fair market
value.

Bill Effros
Author

akmihos at verizon.net wrote:

Bill, I find it hard to believe that you can find a buyer for a multi
million $$$ home on Craiglists! Or am I wrong?

Ari. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From k21273 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 13 12:58:25 2009
From: k21273 at comcast.net (k21273)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:58:25 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
In-Reply-To: <4A325819.8070103@effros.com>
References: <009701c9eafc$a5fc66d0$f1f53470$@net> <4A325819.8070103@effros.com>
Message-ID: <89d0bf890906130958r4b2b2eednc03ad4d53fe2c381@mail.gmail.com>

Bill
Thanks for taking the time to write back. I hope that since I am offering
the realtor her commission that she won't sabotage me. I think the 5-day
Sales will allow me to see more activity from my realtor than just waiting
for the right/qualified buyer to stop buy. In a sense if she sells it using
this method, then she has earned her commission. I do agree with the concept
of ordinary people doing business. However, I got to think that at the
starting price of 1/2 the price, that those shy customers will grow some
hair and go after the home, if they REALLY want it.


Tyno

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:

>  Tyno,
>
> I've been wrestling with this question for years, and some years I go one
> way and other years I go the other.
>
> Currently I don't think this is a good idea.
>
> 5-Day Sales work IMHO because both the buyers and the sellers are just
> ordinary people.  Neither is more sophisticated than the other.  Neither is
> a "pro".
>
> So they bumble their way to a fair market price that each can be happy
> with.
>
> As soon as some real buyers see a real estate broker, they will head for
> the door and never bid.  They immediately understand that this is no longer
> a negotiation between equals, but that the seller has hired someone to take
> advantage of buyers on the seller's behalf.
>
> Meanwhile, the brokers have a vested interest in making sure 5-Day Sales
> won't work.  They try to steal customers brought in by 5-Day Sellers for
> other homes on which they will receive a full commission.  After failing to
> sell a home in 5 days, they will propose a traditional selling arrangement,
> saying they can get much more the traditional way, and taking a full
> commission.
>
> 5-Day Sales are an exhausting amount of work, however you know it is
> coming, and you get enough help in advance.  You must commit to taking the
> high price offered, or you won't get the highest bid possible.  If you do it
> yourself you will be able to sell your home for the most you can get in the
> current market.  If you use a real estate broker you are more likely than
> not to fail.
>
> Bill Effros
> Author
>
> Tyno wrote:
>
>  I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling
> conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor field all
> the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc.  If the realtor is
> going to get a commission would there be any reason not to "hire" them to do
> a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win? Would a realtor "loose face" with other
> realtors with this technique?
>
>
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
>
>
> Tyno (Tee-no)
>
>
>
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>
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From k21273 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 13 12:58:41 2009
From: k21273 at comcast.net (TC)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:58:41 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale
In-Reply-To: <348262.45514.qm@web53602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <003001c9ec48$35dbfda0$a193f8e0$@net>

Holly,

 

Thanks for your wealth of knowledge. My opinion of realtors has just
increased again based on your input :-)  I need an offer to bring to my bank
to see if they will accept a short sale. I have heard that the banks are
overwhelmed by the foreclosures and short sales (500/day) but I have nothing
to lose other than carrying a second mortgage that I do not need. I agree
with your assessment. It is not looking "sunny" right now. I let you know
what happens.

 

Thanks

 

Tyno

 

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+k21273=comcast.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+k21273=comcast.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Holly MacIntyre
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:35 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale

 


Just a couple thoughts to respond.  In following the various contributors
over recent months, and my own 5 day sale experience - it seems (anecdotely
at least) that the 5 Day Sale process works in some cases but [in this
market?] more often does not.

The current market as well as the anticpated near future market (considering
new/third wave foreclosures and the increasing volume of "upside down"
properties) continue to indicate intense price pressure as well as further
price declines (that's before factoring in increasing interest rates...).
This seems to be the overriding dynamic - not Realtors "vested interest in
making sure the 5 Day Sale doesn't work."  

 

Most real estate transactions (over 50% conservatively) are first time
buyers and investors opportunistically taking advantage of the declining
market.  Most financing - again over 50% is FHA.  The other side of that
coin is that over 50% of the real estate transactions currently are
distressed sales (REO/Short Sales, etc) and that trend will definately only
increase in the near term.  And another staggering statistic (local to the
Denver/Colorado market) is that just less than half of all listings in 2008
expired/never sold.

 

It is a buyer's market.  Why would a buyer care if a Realtor was involved or
not?  They (buyers) drive either way.  In fact, why would a buyer NOT take
advantage of a Realtor's services - they will end up getting their price
again, either way.  It is the seller who is hit with concessions (whatever
they are...)

 

Many recent 5 Day Sale experiences (shared in this forum) are establishing
that in this market, the advertised 1/2 price bid sale definately attracts
"bottom feeders" and investors; while in many cases, not simultaneously
attracting the preferred buyer. 

 

If buyers have no dis-incentive to work with Realtors - what about sellers?
Given over 50% of sales are distressed and usually go for less than what 5
Day Sale-ers hope for (buyers get a "buyer bonus" in the form of a discount
for taking a bank problem off the bank's hands...).  Could that differential
be a Realtor fee?  Maybe close, but regardless, sellers pay the difference
one way or another.  Of course, not all Realtors are created equal, but
since price is the real driving force, price is the great equalizer.

 

Do I have a bias?  I think so.  After years of real estate investing, and
getting clobbered recently with the downturn plus a failed 5 Day Sale (it
was a realtor who brought in the preferred buyer within two weeks of my bid
sale...) AND the current market stats and trends - I became a Realtor!  Even
tho I've always had very strong negative feelings about Realtors, it still
seems clear to me that it will be Realtor transactions (already in excess of
50% of transactions) for the next years to come - to get this current
housing market mess cleared out.  

 

What say you?

Holly - Colorado

 

 

 

 

 

       

 

  


--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:


From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 1:28 PM

Tyno,

I've been wrestling with this question for years, and some years I go one
way and other years I go the other.

Currently I don't think this is a good idea.

5-Day Sales work IMHO because both the buyers and the sellers are just
ordinary people.  Neither is more sophisticated than the other.  Neither is
a "pro".

So they bumble their way to a fair market price that each can be happy with.

As soon as some real buyers see a real estate broker, they will head for the
door and never bid.  They immediately understand that this is no longer a
negotiation between equals, but that the seller has hired someone to take
advantage of buyers on the seller's behalf.

Meanwhile, the brokers have a vested interest in making sure 5-Day Sales
won't work.  They try to steal customers brought in by 5-Day Sellers for
other homes on which they will receive a full commission.  After failing to
sell a home in 5 days, they will propose a traditional selling arrangement,
saying they can get much more the traditional way, and taking a full
commission.

5-Day Sales are an exhausting amount of work, however you know it is coming,
and you get enough help in advance.  You must commit to taking the high
price offered, or you won't get the highest bid possible.  If you do it
yourself you will be able to sell your home for the most you can get in the
current market.  If you use a real estate broker you are more likely than
not to fail.

Bill Effros
Author

Tyno wrote: 

I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling
conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor field all
the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc.  If the realtor is
going to get a commission would there be any reason not to "hire" them to do
a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win? Would a realtor "loose face" with other
realtors with this technique?

 

Thanks in Advance

 

Tyno (Tee-no)

 



  

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From mpcinvestments at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 12 11:29:10 2009
From: mpcinvestments at yahoo.com (Michael Careaga)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:29:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Finding a Settlement agent in Nashville TN
Message-ID: <523468.19903.qm@web37004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello everyone.
???? I have recently purchased Bills book and find it to be very interesting.? I am a real estate investor anintend to try out the system on a house I am about to sell.? I live in the Nashvill TN area and need to find a settlement agent for the area.? Does anyone have any ideas on who would be available in this area?? Thanks

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From mpcinvestments at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 12 11:29:10 2009
From: mpcinvestments at yahoo.com (Michael Careaga)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:29:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Finding a Settlement agent in Nashville TN
Message-ID: <523468.19903.qm@web37004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello everyone.
???? I have recently purchased Bills book and find it to be very interesting.? I am a real estate investor anintend to try out the system on a house I am about to sell.? I live in the Nashvill TN area and need to find a settlement agent for the area.? Does anyone have any ideas on who would be available in this area?? Thanks

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From mpcinvestments at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 12 19:27:57 2009
From: mpcinvestments at yahoo.com (Michael Careaga)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:27:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent
Message-ID: <175327.67413.qm@web37001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello everyone,
???? I am setting up my first sale for the weekend after fathers day and I was wondering in anyone has a lead as to any settlement agents in the Nashville TN area?? Thanks.

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From mpcinvestments at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 13 15:49:04 2009
From: mpcinvestments at yahoo.com (Michael Careaga)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:49:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)
Message-ID: <413432.79724.qm@web37007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello everyone,
???? I am setting up my first sale for the weekend after fathers day and I was wondering in anyone has a lead as to any settlement agents in the Nashville TN area?? Thanks.

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From mausselman at comcast.net  Sun Jun 14 14:29:21 2009
From: mausselman at comcast.net (Mark Usselman)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:29:21 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Consultant
Message-ID: <000001c9ed1e$0df0daa0$29d28fe0$@net>

Is there anyone who is a full time consultant selling other peoples homes?
If so, do you have any advise for a person looking to get into the business?

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sun Jun 14 16:57:13 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:57:13 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
Message-ID: <be3.4677ecc6.3766be29@aol.com>

I was just curious as to whether anyone on here has used this method in the 
 Des Moines IA area.  I currently have 3 investment properties and would  
love to try this if it works in this area.  The area is fairly stable, some  
say home values up 1% some down 1%.  There has been a flurry of activity  
lately and I would like to conduct a sale like this if it works.  FYI, a  
realtor, very well known in the area, has been unsuccessful in getting offers on 
 the one home we have listed with him.  It is a completely renovated  
property never lived in since I completed it.
 
ALL thoughts welcome,
 
Janet
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From joanvickers13 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 15 10:22:14 2009
From: joanvickers13 at yahoo.com (Joan Vickers)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:22:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Consultant
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Get a license
Joan



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From: Mark Usselman <mausselman at comcast.net>
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:29:21 PM
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From skyhighplanning at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 10:43:16 2009
From: skyhighplanning at gmail.com (SKY HIGH)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:43:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale
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	<003001c9ec48$35dbfda0$a193f8e0$@net>
Message-ID: <D99DA94A-9217-41AC-A5C4-616D570EA9DC@gmail.com>

Hello Tyno
Where is your house located?

I am an investor & I buy houses mostly in NYC & FL.
If I can help it would be my pleasure.

Thanks

Carlos A. Chica
Investor/Real Estate Solutions Co.
Sky High Planning, Inc.
7380 Sand Lake Rd.  #500
Orlando, FL  32819
Office:  (407) 352-3220
Fax:      (407) 738-4816
Cell:      (646) 552-0107
skyhighplanning at gmail.com

Coming Soon:

www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com

"It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible"

  -  Walt Disney

On Jun 13, 2009, at 12:58 PM, "TC" <k21273 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Holly,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your wealth of knowledge. My opinion of realtors has just  
> increased again based on your input :-)  I need an offer to bring to  
> my bank to see if they will accept a short sale. I have heard that  
> the banks are overwhelmed by the foreclosures and short sales (500/ 
> day) but I have nothing to lose other than carrying a second  
> mortgage that I do not need. I agree with your assessment. It is not  
> looking "sunny" right now. I let you know what happens.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Tyno
>
>
>
> From: 5-dayforum-bounces+k21273=comcast.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>  [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+k21273=comcast.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Holly MacIntyre
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:35 PM
> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
> Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale
>
>
>
> Just a couple thoughts to respond.  In following the various  
> contributors over recent months, and my own 5 day sale experience -  
> it seems (anecdotely at least) that the 5 Day Sale process works in  
> some cases but [in this market?] more often does not.
>
> The current market as well as the anticpated near future market  
> (considering new/third wave foreclosures and the increasing volume  
> of "upside down" properties) continue to indicate intense price  
> pressure as well as further price declines (that's before factoring  
> in increasing interest rates...).  This seems to be the overriding  
> dynamic - not Realtors "vested interest in making sure the 5 Day  
> Sale doesn't work."
>
>
>
> Most real estate transactions (over 50% conservatively) are first  
> time buyers and investors opportunistically taking advantage of the  
> declining market.  Most financing - again over 50% is FHA.  The  
> other side of that coin is that over 50% of the real estate  
> transactions currently are distressed sales (REO/Short Sales, etc)  
> and that trend will definately only increase in the near term.  And  
> another staggering statistic (local to the Denver/Colorado market)  
> is that just less than half of all listings in 2008 expired/never  
> sold.
>
>
>
> It is a buyer's market.  Why would a buyer care if a Realtor was  
> involved or not?  They (buyers) drive either way.  In fact, why  
> would a buyer NOT take advantage of a Realtor's services - they will  
> end up getting their price again, either way.  It is the seller who  
> is hit with concessions (whatever they are...)
>
>
>
> Many recent 5 Day Sale experiences (shared in this forum) are  
> establishing that in this market, the advertised 1/2 price bid sale  
> definately attracts "bottom feeders" and investors; while in many  
> cases, not simultaneously attracting the preferred buyer.
>
>
>
> If buyers have no dis-incentive to work with Realtors - what about  
> sellers?  Given over 50% of sales are distressed and usually go for  
> less than what 5 Day Sale-ers hope for (buyers get a "buyer bonus"  
> in the form of a discount for taking a bank problem off the bank's  
> hands...).  Could that differential be a Realtor fee?  Maybe close,  
> but regardless, sellers pay the difference one way or another.  Of  
> course, not all Realtors are created equal, but since price is the  
> real driving force, price is the great equalizer.
>
>
>
> Do I have a bias?  I think so.  After years of real estate  
> investing, and getting clobbered recently with the downturn plus a  
> failed 5 Day Sale (it was a realtor who brought in the preferred  
> buyer within two weeks of my bid sale...) AND the current market  
> stats and trends - I became a Realtor!  Even tho I've always had  
> very strong negative feelings about Realtors, it still seems clear  
> to me that it will be Realtor transactions (already in excess of 50%  
> of transactions) for the next years to come - to get this current  
> housing market mess cleared out.
>
>
>
> What say you?
>
> Holly - Colorado
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
> To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
> >
> Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 1:28 PM
>
> Tyno,
>
> I've been wrestling with this question for years, and some years I  
> go one way and other years I go the other.
>
> Currently I don't think this is a good idea.
>
> 5-Day Sales work IMHO because both the buyers and the sellers are  
> just ordinary people.  Neither is more sophisticated than the  
> other.  Neither is a "pro".
>
> So they bumble their way to a fair market price that each can be  
> happy with.
>
> As soon as some real buyers see a real estate broker, they will head  
> for the door and never bid.  They immediately understand that this  
> is no longer a negotiation between equals, but that the seller has  
> hired someone to take advantage of buyers on the seller's behalf.
>
> Meanwhile, the brokers have a vested interest in making sure 5-Day  
> Sales won't work.  They try to steal customers brought in by 5-Day  
> Sellers for other homes on which they will receive a full  
> commission.  After failing to sell a home in 5 days, they will  
> propose a traditional selling arrangement, saying they can get much  
> more the traditional way, and taking a full commission.
>
> 5-Day Sales are an exhausting amount of work, however you know it is  
> coming, and you get enough help in advance.  You must commit to  
> taking the high price offered, or you won't get the highest bid  
> possible.  If you do it yourself you will be able to sell your home  
> for the most you can get in the current market.  If you use a real  
> estate broker you are more likely than not to fail.
>
> Bill Effros
> Author
>
> Tyno wrote:
>
> I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling  
> conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor  
> field all the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc.   
> If the realtor is going to get a commission would there be any  
> reason not to "hire" them to do a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win?  
> Would a realtor "loose face" with other realtors with this technique?
>
>
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
>
>
> Tyno (Tee-no)
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From lbicon at aol.com  Mon Jun 15 18:46:18 2009
From: lbicon at aol.com (lbicon at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:46:18 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Consultant
In-Reply-To: <000001c9ed1e$0df0daa0$29d28fe0$@net>
References: <000001c9ed1e$0df0daa0$29d28fe0$@net>
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Yes Mark,

There are plenty out there. They are called Real Estate Agents. 

Regards,

Conrad Kuiken


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Usselman <mausselman at comcast.net>
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:29 am
Subject: [5-DayForum] Consultant




Is there anyone who is a full time consultant selling other peoples homes?? If so, do you have any advise for a person looking to get into the business?




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From rcutcher at austin.rr.com  Tue Jun 16 12:37:37 2009
From: rcutcher at austin.rr.com (RC Cutcher)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:37:37 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Consultant
References: <000001c9ed1e$0df0daa0$29d28fe0$@net>
	<8CBBC223AF12624-1454-CCE@WEBMAIL-DY38.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <01f901c9eea0$c29b3760$0201a8c0@RCCutcher>

 Anyone who has had a great amount of success with Bill's book truly understands that nobody has the ability to see the whole picture in real estate at any given time.  So just following a formula by rote like a zombie is going to have mixed results at best. You learn by doing and most 5-day Sellers have only one or two times to swing at the ball, and after they hit a long pop up for an out,  they get to blame Bill or some Realtor version of the 5-day.   Everyone who sells a house must decide whether to price it small, medium or large.   And the secret,  in my opinion is to stay away from medium!    Sellers become believers in their own personal value of opinion and  that number holds no magic at all.  The magic is whether the buyer bought one of the  houses in the Subdivision that weekend which compared with yours because somebody made it easy to understand how to buy it, with the least amount of emotional trauma.  But FSBO's seem to think of their property as a stand alone, once in a lifetime, God given gift to mankind.  

RC Cutcher
Realtor, ABR
Austin Texas Homes, LLC
www.austintexashomes.com
512-848-4449

The Short Sale/Foreclosure Workshop
Broker Price Opinion Training
Trec Provider No.  0623



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: lbicon at aol.com 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 5:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Consultant


  Yes Mark,

  There are plenty out there. They are called Real Estate Agents. 

  Regards,

  Conrad Kuiken


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mark Usselman <mausselman at comcast.net>
  To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
  Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:29 am
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Consultant


  Is there anyone who is a full time consultant selling other peoples homes?  If so, do you have any advise for a person looking to get into the business?
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From keith.pinster at comcast.net  Tue Jun 16 12:38:32 2009
From: keith.pinster at comcast.net (Keith R. Pinster)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:38:32 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] Consultant
In-Reply-To: <8CBBC223AF12624-1454-CCE@WEBMAIL-DY38.sysops.aol.com>
References: <000001c9ed1e$0df0daa0$29d28fe0$@net>
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And if you want to be a consultant helping people sell their home, you
BETTER have a RE license.  If you are caught taking money to help someone
sell their home without having a license, the RE board will burn you at the
stake.  Times are tough and they would view this as you "stealing" money
from legitimate real estate agents.  I'm talking at least fines if not jail
time, depending on how hard they want to push it.

Very bad juju!

-----Original Message-----
From: lbicon at aol.com [mailto:lbicon at aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:46 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Consultant

Yes Mark,

There are plenty out there. They are called Real Estate Agents. 

Regards,

Conrad Kuiken


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Usselman <mausselman at comcast.net>
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:29 am
Subject: [5-DayForum] Consultant


Is there anyone who is a full time consultant selling other peoples homes?
If so, do you have any advise for a person looking to get into the business?
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From tomwilson64 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 16 12:57:56 2009
From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:57:56 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Consultant
In-Reply-To: <01f901c9eea0$c29b3760$0201a8c0@RCCutcher>
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The problem I have with what you wrote is it starts adding the "real estate
pro" taste and need.  For a traditional approach that's not a bad thing and
I do believe some people would never have any desire to use a 5-Day Sale and
fully informed they'd still choose a traditional listing approach with a
licensed realtor.

 

But for those who are willing to see what can be done themselves, I think
the formula and guides Bill lays out in the book do work.  It does take a
willingness and ability to be open and honest, be detailed and enjoy the
process while working it to a tee that can be challenging for various people
and various situations.  When I did mine I was formulaic down the line from
the pricing, the wording of the ad, the process of fielding calls,
determining if I had sufficient interest on Friday, working the inspections
with full disclosure and personal enjoyment and working the round robin as
explained in the book.  Also, I was absolute in letting every interested
party know in virtually every conversation that the neither the buyer nor
seller is committed until an agreement is signed.

 

My result was great, albeit one time only.  It wasn't smooth and perfect,
what human endeavor is, but I believe being fully disclosing and enjoying
the process after studying the book's "formula" were key in my 5-day sale
success.

 

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.co
m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com] On Behalf Of RC Cutcher
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:38 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Consultant

 

 Anyone who has had a great amount of success with Bill's book truly
understands that nobody has the ability to see the whole picture in real
estate at any given time.  So just following a formula by rote like a zombie
is going to have mixed results at best. You learn by doing and most 5-day
Sellers have only one or two times to swing at the ball, and after they hit
a long pop up for an out,  they get to blame Bill or some Realtor version of
the 5-day.   Everyone who sells a house must decide whether to price it
small, medium or large.   And the secret,  in my opinion is to stay away
from medium!    Sellers become believers in their own personal value of
opinion and  that number holds no magic at all.  The magic is whether the
buyer bought one of the  houses in the Subdivision that weekend which
compared with yours because somebody made it easy to understand how to buy
it, with the least amount of emotional trauma.  But FSBO's seem to think of
their property as a stand alone, once in a lifetime, God given gift to
mankind.  

 

RC Cutcher

Realtor, ABR

Austin Texas Homes, LLC

www.austintexashomes.com

512-848-4449

 

The Short Sale/Foreclosure Workshop

Broker Price Opinion Training

Trec Provider No.  0623

 

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: lbicon at aol.com 

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Consultant

 

Yes Mark,

There are plenty out there. They are called Real Estate Agents. 

Regards,

Conrad Kuiken


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Usselman <mausselman at comcast.net>
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:29 am
Subject: [5-DayForum] Consultant

Is there anyone who is a full time consultant selling other peoples homes?
If so, do you have any advise for a person looking to get into the business?

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From Aaron at eurofixonline.com  Tue Jun 16 13:19:31 2009
From: Aaron at eurofixonline.com (Aaron Stokes)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:19:31 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)
References: <413432.79724.qm@web37007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E6F1D1FE24C94C64916460138C39C3A5@aaroncomputer>

Michael, I'm about to do mine.... I am using McCann & Hubbard... their # is 615-377-3319

Maybe we can help eachother out... Let me know..


Aaron 

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Careaga 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:49 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)


  Hello everyone,
       I am setting up my first sale for the weekend after fathers day and I was wondering in anyone has a lead as to any settlement agents in the Nashville TN area?  Thanks.

  Michael C.
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From susies07 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 14:08:24 2009
From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:08:24 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] location
Message-ID: <008901c9eead$71f38f30$55daad90$@com>

I have a great house in a not so good neighborhood. Once you get inside it's
a wow, 10' ceilings etc.! I am handy to downtown 6 minutes (a real plus).
Anyone have any ideas for me? I am waiting until after the 4th weekend to do
the 5 day sale. Also parking is an issue in my neighborhood and will be
apparent immediately. Any suggestions on that would help as well.

 

 

 

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From john at teamjohnhill.com  Tue Jun 16 14:54:07 2009
From: john at teamjohnhill.com (John Hill)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:54:07 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)
In-Reply-To: <E6F1D1FE24C94C64916460138C39C3A5@aaroncomputer>
Message-ID: <20090616185602.BMBG20891.outaamta02.mail.tds.net@JohnHill>

And help clean it?

 

  _____  

From:
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m
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+john=teamjohnhill.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein
5days.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Stokes
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:20 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)

 

Michael, I'm about to do mine.... I am using McCann & Hubbard... their # is
615-377-3319

 

Maybe we can help eachother out... Let me know..

 

 

Aaron 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Michael <mailto:mpcinvestments at yahoo.com>  Careaga 

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:49 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)

 

Hello everyone,

     I am setting up my first sale for the weekend after fathers day and I
was wondering in anyone has a lead as to any settlement agents in the
Nashville TN area?  Thanks.

 

Michael C.

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From peaceatlast at kellin.net  Tue Jun 16 22:36:04 2009
From: peaceatlast at kellin.net (Patty Lorence)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:36:04 -0600
Subject: [5-DayForum] Best Way to Advertise
Message-ID: <005a01c9eef4$5cab4950$0201a8c0@GATEWAYP4>

I would like to hear from folks on their experience with the best advertising methods.  I have heard of the following methods and I have added a few others:

Post Cards to your Zip Code
Newspaper ads - on-line
Craigslist
For sale by owner websites
Flyers


All opinions are appreciated - I realize this has probably already been discused but I just joined and need advice.  Thanks
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From Aaron at eurofixonline.com  Wed Jun 17 12:48:56 2009
From: Aaron at eurofixonline.com (Aaron Stokes)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:48:56 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)
References: <20090616185602.BMBG20891.outaamta02.mail.tds.net@JohnHill>
Message-ID: <4F0F79DC30084074A829319546C4EB0B@aaroncomputer>

what part of town are you in? what type of house is it?   I'm just outside of franklin. 2 story farm house.... with a barn...



Aaron 
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Hill 
  To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)


  And help clean it?

   


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  Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:20 PM
  To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)

   

  Michael, I'm about to do mine.... I am using McCann & Hubbard... their # is 615-377-3319

   

  Maybe we can help eachother out... Let me know..

   

   

  Aaron 

   

  ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Michael Careaga 

    To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

    Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:49 PM

    Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)

     

    Hello everyone,

         I am setting up my first sale for the weekend after fathers day and I was wondering in anyone has a lead as to any settlement agents in the Nashville TN area?  Thanks.

     

    Michael C.
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From mpcinvestments at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 17 14:08:51 2009
From: mpcinvestments at yahoo.com (Michael Careaga)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:08:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga) (Aaron
	Stokes)
Message-ID: <176643.28071.qm@web37003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the info Aaron.? I called them and have it set up so that McCann & Hubbard will process the settlement for myself and if needed, the buyer as well.

Hey John.? I am a licensed home improver, electrician, and soon plumber.??I am available for anything you may need in middle TN.
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From mpcinvestments at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 17 14:14:37 2009
From: mpcinvestments at yahoo.com (Michael Careaga)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:14:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)
Message-ID: <163521.43128.qm@web37007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Aaron, I am in Murfreesboro, but the house is in La Vergne, single story 3 bd, 2 bath, 1400+ sqft, completely cleaned up with upgrades.? I would love to get together and see what we can do to help each other out.? My work as an electrician takes me to Franklin often.
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From susies07 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 14:16:42 2009
From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:16:42 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)
	(Aaron	Stokes)
In-Reply-To: <176643.28071.qm@web37003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <176643.28071.qm@web37003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004e01c9ef77$c56b4ca0$5041e5e0$@com>

Has anyone had experience doing the 5 day sale in WNC? I am in Asheville and
planning on doing this after the 4th. Also been a realtor years ago so I
understand what to do to get my house ready for market. The rest of this is
new.

Thanks,

Susie

 

From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Michael Careaga
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:09 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga) (Aaron
Stokes)

 

Thanks for the info Aaron.  I called them and have it set up so that McCann
& Hubbard will process the settlement for myself and if needed, the buyer as
well.

 

Hey John.  I am a licensed home improver, electrician, and soon plumber.  I
am available for anything you may need in middle TN.



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From Aaron at eurofixonline.com  Thu Jun 18 14:10:34 2009
From: Aaron at eurofixonline.com (Aaron Stokes)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:10:34 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)
References: <163521.43128.qm@web37007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4166F97522504319957725FA78715FD6@aaroncomputer>

ok I work on the south side off of mac hatcher... I live off of 96 in the arrington area. maybe we can see eachother's houses and come up sith some marketing ideas, I'm wanting to sell mine around the time your wanting to give or take a week.... 
Aaron 615-424-6547


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Careaga 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:14 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)


  Aaron, I am in Murfreesboro, but the house is in La Vergne, single story 3 bd, 2 bath, 1400+ sqft, completely cleaned up with upgrades.  I would love to get together and see what we can do to help each other out.  My work as an electrician takes me to Franklin often.
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From dzareamanager at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 19 19:00:59 2009
From: dzareamanager at earthlink.net (dzareamanager at earthlink.net)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:00:59 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5 day method in Massachusetts?
Message-ID: <410-22009651923059843@earthlink.net>


Hello!  My husband and I are considering using the 5 day method to sell a "flip" house we are currently renovating.  Does anyone out there have experience with this in the Massachusetts area?  We are in the Greater Worcester area specifically?
Thanks,
Tracy Z.
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sat Jun 20 19:30:10 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:30:10 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
Message-ID: <cc7.56db88de.376ecb02@aol.com>

Well, I guess I am the guinea pig in Iowa.  I have placed my print  
advertising for next week/weekend.  I have made up 20 hand made signs with  the 
exact same information on them.  I will also post to Craig's List early  
Wednesday.  I have my different color paper, descriptions and will have a  
computerized inspection e-mailed to me on Tuesday.  I will go through and  make 
sure everything is spotless and the house doesn't have that "empty" smell  to 
it.  I'm doing this after the inspector does his thing.  I have  purchased an 
additional copy of the book, "just in case."  I have bidding  sheets also 
ready and some clip boards.  Am I ready????
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/15/2009 8:39:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Janetislight at aol.com writes:

I was just curious as to whether anyone on here has used this method in  
the Des Moines IA area.  I currently have 3 investment properties and  would 
love to try this if it works in this area.  The area is fairly  stable, some 
say home values up 1% some down 1%.  There has been a flurry  of activity 
lately and I would like to conduct a sale like this if it  works.  FYI, a 
realtor, very well known in the area, has been  unsuccessful in getting offers 
on the one home we have listed with him.   It is a completely renovated 
property never lived in since I completed  it.
 
ALL thoughts welcome,
 
Janet

 
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From grantwriter at charter.net  Sat Jun 20 20:23:42 2009
From: grantwriter at charter.net (Mary Lee Dunning)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:23:42 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
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JANET,

YOU GO, GIRL!!!

BEST WISHES FOR GREAT SUCCESS!!!!! 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: 6/20/2009 6:31:00 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
 
Well, I guess I am the guinea pig in Iowa.  I have placed my print
advertising for next week/weekend.  I have made up 20 hand made signs with
the exact same information on them.  I will also post to Craig's List early
Wednesday.  I have my different color paper, descriptions and will have a
computerized inspection e-mailed to me on Tuesday.  I will go through and
make sure everything is spotless and the house doesn't have that "empty"
smell to it.  I'm doing this after the inspector does his thing.  I have
purchased an additional copy of the book, "just in case."  I have bidding
sheets also ready and some clip boards.  Am I ready????
 
Janet
 
In a message dated 6/15/2009 8:39:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Janetislight at aol.com writes:
I was just curious as to whether anyone on here has used this method in the
Des Moines IA area.  I currently have 3 investment properties and would love
to try this if it works in this area.  The area is fairly stable, some say
home values up 1% some down 1%.  There has been a flurry of activity lately
and I would like to conduct a sale like this if it works.  FYI, a realtor,
very well known in the area, has been unsuccessful in getting offers on the
one home we have listed with him.  It is a completely renovated property
never lived in since I completed it.
 
ALL thoughts welcome,
 
Janet



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From Leighann15 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 20 21:06:56 2009
From: Leighann15 at comcast.net (Leigh Ann Nephew)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:06:56 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Has anyone sold in the St. Paul area?
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Has anyone successfully sold a home using the 5-day method in the Western Wisc. and Minnesota border area?
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From Leighann15 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 20 21:09:46 2009
From: Leighann15 at comcast.net (Leigh Ann Nephew)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:09:46 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] ST Paul Area
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Has anyone successfully sold a home in the ST. Paul, MN/ Western Wisconsin area?
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From jcrafor at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 21 13:09:52 2009
From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:09:52 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
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It sounds like you are. Do you have at least one helper, maybe two? 

Best wishes for your sale.

JCrafor
 


From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:30:10 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa


Well, I guess I am the guinea pig in Iowa.  I have placed my print advertising for next week/weekend.  I have made up 20 hand made signs with the exact same information on them.  I will also post to Craig's List early Wednesday.  I have my different color paper, descriptions and will have a computerized inspection e-mailed to me on Tuesday.  I will go through and make sure everything is spotless and the house doesn't have that "empty" smell to it.  I'm doing this after the inspector does his thing.  I have purchased an additional copy of the book, "just in case."  I have bidding sheets also ready and some clip boards.  Am I ready????
 
Janet
 

In a message dated 6/15/2009 8:39:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Janetislight at aol.com writes:

I was just curious as to whether anyone on here has used this method in the Des Moines IA area.  I currently have 3 investment properties and would love to try this if it works in this area.  The area is fairly stable, some say home values up 1% some down 1%.  There has been a flurry of activity lately and I would like to conduct a sale like this if it works.  FYI, a realtor, very well known in the area, has been unsuccessful in getting offers on the one home we have listed with him.  It is a completely renovated property never lived in since I completed it.
 
ALL thoughts welcome,
 
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sun Jun 21 15:58:56 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:58:56 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
Message-ID: <c22.60a646f0.376feb00@aol.com>

There will be 5 of us there.  Forgot to mention that.  Thank you  all for 
the good wishes.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/21/2009 12:10:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jcrafor at hotmail.com writes:

It  sounds like you are. Do you have at least one helper, maybe two? 
Best  wishes for your sale.
JCrafor

 
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From: Janetislight at aol.com
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:30:10 -0400
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  5-day sales in Iowa

Well, I guess I am the guinea pig in Iowa.  I have placed my print  
advertising for next week/weekend.  I have made up 20 hand made signs  with the 
exact same information on them.  I will also post to Craig's  List early 
Wednesday.  I have my different color paper, descriptions and  will have a 
computerized inspection e-mailed to me on Tuesday.  I will go  through and make 
sure everything is spotless and the house doesn't have that  "empty" smell to 
it.  I'm doing this after the inspector does his  thing.  I have purchased an 
additional copy of the book, "just in  case."  I have bidding sheets also 
ready and some clip boards.  Am I  ready????
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/15/2009 8:39:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Janetislight at aol.com writes:

I was just curious as to whether anyone on here has used this method in  
the Des Moines IA area.  I currently have 3 investment properties and  would 
love to try this if it works in this area.  The area is fairly  stable, some 
say home values up 1% some down 1%.  There has been a  flurry of activity 
lately and I would like to conduct a sale like this if it  works.  FYI, a 
realtor, very well known in the area, has been  unsuccessful in getting offers 
on the one home we have listed with  him.  It is a completely renovated 
property never lived in since I  completed it.
 
ALL thoughts welcome,
 
Janet

 
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From k21273 at comcast.net  Mon Jun 22 10:37:27 2009
From: k21273 at comcast.net (TC)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:37:27 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale
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My home is in Saginaw, MI.

699 Lutzke, Saginaw, Mi 48603

 

From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+k21273=comcast.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of SKY HIGH
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:43 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale

 

Hello Tyno

Where is your house located?

 

I am an investor & I buy houses mostly in NYC & FL.

If I can help it would be my pleasure.

 

Thanks 

Carlos A. Chica

Investor/Real Estate Solutions Co.

Sky High Planning, Inc.

7380 Sand Lake Rd.  #500

Orlando, FL  32819

Office:  (407) 352-3220

Fax:      (407) 738-4816

Cell:      (646) 552-0107

skyhighplanning at gmail.com

 

Coming Soon:

 

www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com

 

"It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible"

 

 -  Walt Disney


On Jun 13, 2009, at 12:58 PM, "TC" <k21273 at comcast.net> wrote:

Holly,

 

Thanks for your wealth of knowledge. My opinion of realtors has just
increased again based on your input :-)  I need an offer to bring to my bank
to see if they will accept a short sale. I have heard that the banks are
overwhelmed by the foreclosures and short sales (500/day) but I have nothing
to lose other than carrying a second mortgage that I do not need. I agree
with your assessment. It is not looking "sunny" right now. I let you know
what happens.

 

Thanks

 

Tyno

 

From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+k21273=comcast.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Holly MacIntyre
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:35 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: [5-DayForum] Realtors and/or 5 Day Sale

 


Just a couple thoughts to respond.  In following the various contributors
over recent months, and my own 5 day sale experience - it seems (anecdotely
at least) that the 5 Day Sale process works in some cases but [in this
market?] more often does not.

The current market as well as the anticpated near future market (considering
new/third wave foreclosures and the increasing volume of "upside down"
properties) continue to indicate intense price pressure as well as further
price declines (that's before factoring in increasing interest rates...).
This seems to be the overriding dynamic - not Realtors "vested interest in
making sure the 5 Day Sale doesn't work."  

 

Most real estate transactions (over 50% conservatively) are first time
buyers and investors opportunistically taking advantage of the declining
market.  Most financing - again over 50% is FHA.  The other side of that
coin is that over 50% of the real estate transactions currently are
distressed sales (REO/Short Sales, etc) and that trend will definately only
increase in the near term.  And another staggering statistic (local to the
Denver/Colorado market) is that just less than half of all listings in 2008
expired/never sold.

 

It is a buyer's market.  Why would a buyer care if a Realtor was involved or
not?  They (buyers) drive either way.  In fact, why would a buyer NOT take
advantage of a Realtor's services - they will end up getting their price
again, either way.  It is the seller who is hit with concessions (whatever
they are...)

 

Many recent 5 Day Sale experiences (shared in this forum) are establishing
that in this market, the advertised 1/2 price bid sale definately attracts
"bottom feeders" and investors; while in many cases, not simultaneously
attracting the preferred buyer. 

 

If buyers have no dis-incentive to work with Realtors - what about sellers?
Given over 50% of sales are distressed and usually go for less than what 5
Day Sale-ers hope for (buyers get a "buyer bonus" in the form of a discount
for taking a bank problem off the bank's hands...).  Could that differential
be a Realtor fee?  Maybe close, but regardless, sellers pay the difference
one way or another.  Of course, not all Realtors are created equal, but
since price is the real driving force, price is the great equalizer.

 

Do I have a bias?  I think so.  After years of real estate investing, and
getting clobbered recently with the downturn plus a failed 5 Day Sale (it
was a realtor who brought in the preferred buyer within two weeks of my bid
sale...) AND the current market stats and trends - I became a Realtor!  Even
tho I've always had very strong negative feelings about Realtors, it still
seems clear to me that it will be Realtor transactions (already in excess of
50% of transactions) for the next years to come - to get this current
housing market mess cleared out.  

 

What say you?

Holly - Colorado

 

 

 

 

 

       

 

  


--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:


From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Using a realtor
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days"
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 1:28 PM

Tyno,

I've been wrestling with this question for years, and some years I go one
way and other years I go the other.

Currently I don't think this is a good idea.

5-Day Sales work IMHO because both the buyers and the sellers are just
ordinary people.  Neither is more sophisticated than the other.  Neither is
a "pro".

So they bumble their way to a fair market price that each can be happy with.

As soon as some real buyers see a real estate broker, they will head for the
door and never bid.  They immediately understand that this is no longer a
negotiation between equals, but that the seller has hired someone to take
advantage of buyers on the seller's behalf.

Meanwhile, the brokers have a vested interest in making sure 5-Day Sales
won't work.  They try to steal customers brought in by 5-Day Sellers for
other homes on which they will receive a full commission.  After failing to
sell a home in 5 days, they will propose a traditional selling arrangement,
saying they can get much more the traditional way, and taking a full
commission.

5-Day Sales are an exhausting amount of work, however you know it is coming,
and you get enough help in advance.  You must commit to taking the high
price offered, or you won't get the highest bid possible.  If you do it
yourself you will be able to sell your home for the most you can get in the
current market.  If you use a real estate broker you are more likely than
not to fail.

Bill Effros
Author

Tyno wrote: 

I have a home in Michigan that I have had a tough time selling
conventionally. For me it would be worth it to have the realtor field all
the calls , do the showing and handle the bidding, etc.  If the realtor is
going to get a commission would there be any reason not to "hire" them to do
a 5-day sale? Isn't this a win-win? Would a realtor "loose face" with other
realtors with this technique?

 

Thanks in Advance

 

Tyno (Tee-no)

 

  


  

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From jcrafor at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 22 11:34:51 2009
From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:34:51 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
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The REASON for a public forum such as this one is so that people CAN ask questions and get answers. If you ask your questions privately, and someone answers them privately, that does not help anyone else.
 
Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we can all learn. 
Jcrafor
 

 



From: Leighann15 at comcast.net
To: jcrafor at hotmail.com; Janetislight at aol.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500





Does anyone know of a success story so I can email them any questions that I have?  Have either of you had success yet?
 
Leigh Ann

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Mon Jun 22 13:38:18 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:38:18 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
Message-ID: <c26.5e2c20b0.37711b8a@aol.com>

I am having my first 5-Day Sale this weekend.  Sooooooo..... jury is  still 
out!  I plan to post to the public forum what happens starting  Wednesday.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/22/2009 10:38:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jcrafor at hotmail.com writes:

The REASON for a public forum such as this one is so that  people CAN ask 
questions and get answers. If you ask your questions  privately, and someone 
answers them privately, that does not help anyone  else.

Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we  can all learn. 
Jcrafor



 
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To: jcrafor at hotmail.com;  Janetislight at aol.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
Date:  Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500


Does anyone know of a success story  so I can email them any questions that 
I have?  Have either of you had  success yet?
 
Leigh Ann

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From leighann15 at comcast.net  Mon Jun 22 13:59:23 2009
From: leighann15 at comcast.net (leighann15 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:59:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
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I sent this to the 5 day forum as well.? I just hit reply all.? No need for CAPS. 


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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:34:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum 

The?REASON for a public forum such?as this one is so that people CAN ask questions and get answers. If?you ask your questions privately, and someone answers them privately,?that does not help anyone else. 
? 
Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we can all learn. 
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To: jcrafor at hotmail.com; Janetislight at aol.com 
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa 
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500 



Does anyone know of a success story so I can email them any questions that I have?? Have either of you had success yet? 

Leigh Ann 


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From jcrafor at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 22 15:36:06 2009
From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:36:06 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
In-Reply-To: <1908109478.7035371245693563470.JavaMail.root@sz0099a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <SNT116-W30DE3636EE380616E2A1FCAE390@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <SNT116-W45B8B23F5A8DEE15898B15AE390@phx.gbl>


Occassional words written in all capital letters denotes emphasis.

An entire post with all words written in all capital letters denotes anger.

 

I used caps in two words to denote emphasis on those words.

 

JCrafor
 


Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:59:23 +0000
From: leighann15 at comcast.net
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum





I sent this to the 5 day forum as well.  I just hit reply all.  No need for CAPS.


----- Original Message -----
From: "j crafor" <jcrafor at hotmail.com>
To: "5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:34:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum



The REASON for a public forum such as this one is so that people CAN ask questions and get answers. If you ask your questions privately, and someone answers them privately, that does not help anyone else.
 
Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we can all learn. 
Jcrafor
 

 







From: Leighann15 at comcast.net
To: jcrafor at hotmail.com; Janetislight at aol.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500






Does anyone know of a success story so I can email them any questions that I have?  Have either of you had success yet?
 
Leigh Ann

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Mon Jun 22 18:13:21 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:13:21 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
Message-ID: <c9b.2d10898f.37715c01@aol.com>

Can we stop this now and talk about selling houses?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/22/2009 2:37:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jcrafor at hotmail.com writes:

Occassional words written in all capital letters denotes  emphasis.
An entire post with all words written in all capital letters  denotes anger.

I used caps in two words to denote emphasis on  those words.

JCrafor

 
____________________________________
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:59:23 +0000
From: leighann15 at comcast.net
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  private emails vs public forum

I sent this  to the 5 day forum as well.  I just hit reply all.  No need 
for  CAPS.

----- Original Message -----
From: "j crafor"  <jcrafor at hotmail.com>
To: "5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home"  
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Monday, June  22, 2009 10:34:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  private emails vs public forum

The REASON for a public forum such as this one is so that people CAN  ask 
questions and get answers. If you ask your questions privately, and  someone 
answers them privately, that does not help anyone  else.

Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we  can all learn. 
Jcrafor




 
____________________________________

From: Leighann15 at comcast.net
To: jcrafor at hotmail.com;  Janetislight at aol.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
Date:  Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500



Does anyone know of a success story  so I can email them any questions that 
I have?  Have either of you had  success yet?
 
Leigh Ann

----- Original Message -----  



 
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From roxanneinvestments at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 21:13:51 2009
From: roxanneinvestments at gmail.com (Jill Greenberg)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:13:51 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
In-Reply-To: <SNT116-W45B8B23F5A8DEE15898B15AE390@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT116-W30DE3636EE380616E2A1FCAE390@phx.gbl>
	<1908109478.7035371245693563470.JavaMail.root@sz0099a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<SNT116-W45B8B23F5A8DEE15898B15AE390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <ba9664520906221813r4937093ek6c1751b407218d8a@mail.gmail.com>

OK - so let's now start hearing success stories.  Let's see how many we can
capture.

Tony

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM, j crafor <jcrafor at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Occassional words written in all capital letters denotes emphasis.
> An entire post with all words written in all capital letters denotes anger.
>
> I used caps in two words to denote emphasis on those words.
>
> JCrafor
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:59:23 +0000
> From: leighann15 at comcast.net
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
>
> I sent this to the 5 day forum as well.  I just hit reply all.  No need for
> CAPS.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "j crafor" <jcrafor at hotmail.com>
> To: "5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home" <
> 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:34:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
>
> The REASON for a public forum such as this one is so that people CAN ask
> questions and get answers. If you ask your questions privately, and someone
> answers them privately, that does not help anyone else.
>
> Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we can all learn.
> Jcrafor
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> From: Leighann15 at comcast.net
> To: jcrafor at hotmail.com; Janetislight at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of a success story so I can email them any questions that
> I have?  Have either of you had success yet?
>
> Leigh Ann
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. See how.<http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009>
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>
>
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From bill at effros.com  Mon Jun 22 22:11:27 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:11:27 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Success Stories
In-Reply-To: <ba9664520906221813r4937093ek6c1751b407218d8a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT116-W30DE3636EE380616E2A1FCAE390@phx.gbl>	<1908109478.7035371245693563470.JavaMail.root@sz0099a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>	<SNT116-W45B8B23F5A8DEE15898B15AE390@phx.gbl>
	<ba9664520906221813r4937093ek6c1751b407218d8a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A4039CF.2090306@effros.com>

The success stories are in the archives.

People who have just sold their homes are much too busy to spend a lot 
of time on an Internet forum bragging about their success.  Many are 
gracious enough to provide details once things have settled down.  Most 
don't, although I get a lot of private email from people who lurked, but 
chose to never post to the Forum.

Many professionals post to this forum who have sold scores of homes 
using the 5-Day Method, and who continue to sell homes using this method 
week in and week out.  They don't have either the time or the 
inclination to answer every newbie, but they do pop up from time to 
time, and whatever they choose to say can be found in the archives.

The bottom line is that this method has been used successfully for more 
than 20 years, in good times and bad, everywhere in the country, on 
every style and price home.  I believe the method detailed in the 3rd 
edition of the book is the best method for newbies, although there are 
many who feel otherwise.

We have developed an extensive archive that can be sorted, downloaded, 
and perused.

Use it.

Bill Effros
Author





Jill Greenberg wrote:
> OK - so let's now start hearing success stories.  Let's see how many 
> we can capture.
>  
> Tony
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM, j crafor <jcrafor at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:jcrafor at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Occassional words written in all capital letters denotes emphasis.
>     An entire post with all words written in all capital letters
>     denotes anger.
>      
>     I used caps in two words to denote emphasis on those words.
>      
>     JCrafor
>      
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:59:23 +0000
>     From: leighann15 at comcast.net <mailto:leighann15 at comcast.net>
>     To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>     <mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>     Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
>
>     I sent this to the 5 day forum as well.  I just hit reply all.  No
>     need for CAPS.
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "j crafor" <jcrafor at hotmail.com <mailto:jcrafor at hotmail.com>>
>     To: "5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home"
>     <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>     <mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>>
>     Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:34:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>     Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
>
>     The REASON for a public forum such as this one is so that people
>     CAN ask questions and get answers. If you ask your questions
>     privately, and someone answers them privately, that does not help
>     anyone else.
>      
>     Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we can all
>     learn.
>     Jcrafor
>      
>
>      
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>     From: Leighann15 at comcast.net <mailto:Leighann15 at comcast.net>
>     To: jcrafor at hotmail.com <mailto:jcrafor at hotmail.com>;
>     Janetislight at aol.com <mailto:Janetislight at aol.com>
>     Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
>     Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500
>
>
>
>     Does anyone know of a success story so I can email them any
>     questions that I have?  Have either of you had success yet?
>      
>     Leigh Ann
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>
>          
>
>
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>     <http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009>
>
>     _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing
>     list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>     <mailto:5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>     http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that?s right for you.
>     <http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     5-DayForum mailing list
>     5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>     <mailto:5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>     http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Tony and Jill Greenberg
> Managing Members
> Roxanne Investments LLC
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mpcinvestments at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 23 15:20:13 2009
From: mpcinvestments at yahoo.com (Michael Careaga)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:20:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Need a Settlement Agent (Michael Careaga)
Message-ID: <331636.45543.qm@web37007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well, the ads start running tomorrow and the sale is on for this weekend.? Aaron will be helping me on this sale as well as my wife, and two oldest children 18 and 19 years old.? I am optimistic about the process and look forward with anticipation.? I'll let you all know how it went as I can.

Michael.
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From tlqness at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 23 16:20:15 2009
From: tlqness at yahoo.com (Terri Quenzer)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:20:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Question on 5-day for a rental
Message-ID: <693194.50596.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'm getting ready to hold my first 5-day on a rental, and would like to know if a one-day inspection period is sufficient for a rental as opposed to a two-day inspection.

Thanks!
Terri


      
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From flyingnutjob at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 17:03:48 2009
From: flyingnutjob at gmail.com (Dutch Revenboer)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:03:48 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Question on 5-day for a rental
In-Reply-To: <693194.50596.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <693194.50596.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d2b697900906231403n267dd8f6m86004436a46b0df9@mail.gmail.com>

You really need to hold the 2-day open house.  Day one you get the bottom
feeders.  Day two you get the serious ones.  1 day simply isn't enough time
for all the qualified renters to find you and come by.

Dutch Revenboer

Broker Associate
Metro Brokers of Oklahoma
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405-590-6563

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On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Terri Quenzer <tlqness at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm getting ready to hold my first 5-day on a rental, and would like to
> know if a one-day inspection period is sufficient for a rental as opposed to
> a two-day inspection.
>
> Thanks!
> Terri
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:25:56 EDT
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:26:25 EDT
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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Mon Jun 22 10:18:11 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:18:11 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] unable to veiw prior forum months
Message-ID: <005301c9f344$4ac526d0$6a0a0a0a@PC229962744102>

I am no longer able to find prior months in the forum.  I was back as far as December last week.  Now I can only view June.  Am I missing something.


Tim

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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Mon Jun 22 10:21:03 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:21:03 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] forum trouble
Message-ID: <006801c9f344$af9ac010$6a0a0a0a@PC229962744102>

I can no longer look at past forums.  Last week i was looking as far back as December.  Now I can only view June?

Can You Help me?


Thanks

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From eastman at geminc.com  Mon Jun 22 12:57:16 2009
From: eastman at geminc.com (Barbara Eastman)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:57:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5 day sale in Las Vegas
In-Reply-To: <SNT116-W30DE3636EE380616E2A1FCAE390@phx.gbl>
References: <000001c9ed1e$0df0daa0$29d28fe0$@net><8CBBC223AF12624-1454-CCE@WEBMAIL-DY38.sysops.aol.com>
	<01f901c9eea0$c29b3760$0201a8c0@RCCutcher>
	<SNT116-W30DE3636EE380616E2A1FCAE390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F9D3378B1AF84369AB0D818D8F2E1E9D@696908E74163425>

I am going to be doing a 5 day sale on a property I own in Las Vegas after
the 4th of July holiday.  I live in Florida so am flying out on the 6th to
conduct the sale for the following weekend.  Has anyone ever done a sale in
Las Vegas?  I would appreciate any input.

 

Barbara J. Eastman

International Real Estate Consultant

Eastman Investment & Management Corp

eastman at geminc.com

 

There is no such thing as a bad real estate market!

There are only "Buyer's Markets" and "Seller's Markets" with lots of
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From ajmunited at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 15:29:07 2009
From: ajmunited at gmail.com (John & Amy Blankemeyer)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:29:07 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] I need to change my email address.
Message-ID: <135a4b80906221229y40392e40ic8893a2e1669bf14@mail.gmail.com>

Could you please change my email address to jblankemeyer at yahoo.com. Thank
you and have a great day.

Amy B.

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From bill at effros.com  Wed Jun 24 12:26:02 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:26:02 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] forum trouble
In-Reply-To: <006801c9f344$af9ac010$6a0a0a0a@PC229962744102>
References: <006801c9f344$af9ac010$6a0a0a0a@PC229962744102>
Message-ID: <4A42539A.3060307@effros.com>

Thanks, Tim,

I'll check it out.

Bill Effros
List Administrator

Tim Dever wrote:
> I can no longer look at past forums.  Last week i was looking as far 
> back as December.  Now I can only view June?
>  
> Can You Help me?
>  
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Tim
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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Wed Jun 24 13:32:43 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:32:43 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] listing price theory debunked!
Message-ID: <004801c9f4f1$cff00880$6701a8c0@PC229962744102>


The theory that if you do not receive 25 calls by Friday your price is to high makes no sense.  If the address is withheld in the ad how does anyone know if the house is truly worth 200K listing at 100K or 800K listing at 400K.  Our town has 4 bedroom homes that range between 200K an 1.5 Million.  Based on this who would know where my home falls in that range. So how on earth can Bill continually say that if the calls did not come your price was too high?!  This has nothing to do with starting price and has everything to do with the number of houses listed on craigs list is massive.  It seems to be a couple of hundred an hour get listed in the Chicago area.   Our homes are like a spec of sand on the beach of homes.  This is why the phone does not ring and the emails are only from listing agents. The market is SWAMPED with inventory!!!!  You are trying to convince us that our candy is priced too high but in reality we are trying to sell our candy on the street corner on Halloween night.  Any price is too high.    

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From patricialone at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 24 15:45:43 2009
From: patricialone at hotmail.com (Patricia Lone)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:45:43 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5 day sale in Las Vegas
In-Reply-To: <F9D3378B1AF84369AB0D818D8F2E1E9D@696908E74163425>
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This coming from the person who took $24,000.00 cash, yes, that's (TWENTY-FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS) from me to help me with properties.  The advce and input I received was crappy and very inaccurate; the services were not what I asked for.  This was through The Trump Institute.  Barbara is SUPPOSEDLY a good 'mentor."  What a rip-off!!!

Patricia  
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From: eastman at geminc.com
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:57:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5 day sale in Las Vegas








I am going to be doing a 5 day sale on a property I own in Las Vegas after the 4th of July holiday.  I live in Florida so am flying out on the 6th to conduct the sale for the following weekend.  Has anyone ever done a sale in Las Vegas?  I would appreciate any input.
 

Barbara J. Eastman
International Real Estate Consultant
Eastman Investment & Management Corp
eastman at geminc.com
 
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There are only "Buyer's Markets" and "Seller's Markets" with lots of opportunity in each!
 
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From patricialone at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 24 15:48:09 2009
From: patricialone at hotmail.com (Patricia Lone)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:48:09 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5 day sale in Las Vegas
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The person who did the seminar was named "Keith Bradshaw" out of TX.  Do not trust their program.  RIP-OFF!!!

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From: patricialone at hotmail.com
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:45:43 -0400
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5 day sale in Las Vegas



This coming from the person who took $24,000.00 cash, yes, that's (TWENTY-FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS) from me to help me with properties.  The advce and input I received was crappy and very inaccurate; the services were not what I asked for.  This was through The Trump Institute.  Barbara is SUPPOSEDLY a good 'mentor."  What a rip-off!!!

Patricia  
(please, "not Pat")  

           "Aspire to inspire before you expire!"
                                                      Seasons (Powerpoint)





From: eastman at geminc.com
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:57:16 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5 day sale in Las Vegas








I am going to be doing a 5 day sale on a property I own in Las Vegas after the 4th of July holiday.  I live in Florida so am flying out on the 6th to conduct the sale for the following weekend.  Has anyone ever done a sale in Las Vegas?  I would appreciate any input.
 

Barbara J. Eastman
International Real Estate Consultant
Eastman Investment & Management Corp
eastman at geminc.com
 
There is no such thing as a bad real estate market!
There are only "Buyer's Markets" and "Seller's Markets" with lots of opportunity in each!
 
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From: skoost at skoost.com (Susana Linares)
Date: 25 Jun 2009 10:28:56 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] A little gift - Susana
Message-ID: <20090625102739.7CA01F8BB0@skoismta09.skoost.com>

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Click below to collect your gift:
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From Aaron at eurofixonline.com  Thu Jun 25 12:45:41 2009
From: Aaron at eurofixonline.com (Aaron Stokes)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:45:41 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] listing price theory debunked!
References: <004801c9f4f1$cff00880$6701a8c0@PC229962744102>
Message-ID: <7448B1C029BD4B5CAB2217DE1C8204CE@aaroncomputer>

You need to put the town or boro or suburb your in. use common sense and it will work.... it's very simple, just look at your situation from the outside and advise your self from there, you can get creative and pull this off.... just think about it a while and try..... it can't hurt.



Aaron 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Dever 
  To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:32 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] listing price theory debunked!



  The theory that if you do not receive 25 calls by Friday your price is to high makes no sense.  If the address is withheld in the ad how does anyone know if the house is truly worth 200K listing at 100K or 800K listing at 400K.  Our town has 4 bedroom homes that range between 200K an 1.5 Million.  Based on this who would know where my home falls in that range. So how on earth can Bill continually say that if the calls did not come your price was too high?!  This has nothing to do with starting price and has everything to do with the number of houses listed on craigs list is massive.  It seems to be a couple of hundred an hour get listed in the Chicago area.   Our homes are like a spec of sand on the beach of homes.  This is why the phone does not ring and the emails are only from listing agents. The market is SWAMPED with inventory!!!!  You are trying to convince us that our candy is priced too high but in reality we are trying to sell our candy on the street corner on Halloween night.  Any price is too high.    


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Thu Jun 25 13:07:13 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:07:13 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <bfd.5bb7818a.377508c1@aol.com>

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at  
6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from  newspaper ads.  
I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of  today's calls.
 
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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Thu Jun 25 13:36:25 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:36:25 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] listing price theory debunked!
References: <004801c9f4f1$cff00880$6701a8c0@PC229962744102>
	<7448B1C029BD4B5CAB2217DE1C8204CE@aaroncomputer>
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Aaron,

I have 2 ads on craigs list with no results to mention.  Bolingbrook the town is in the ad.  I have nothing else to do.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Aaron Stokes 
  To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days 
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] listing price theory debunked!


  You need to put the town or boro or suburb your in. use common sense and it will work.... it's very simple, just look at your situation from the outside and advise your self from there, you can get creative and pull this off.... just think about it a while and try..... it can't hurt.



  Aaron 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Tim Dever 
    To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
    Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:32 PM
    Subject: [5-DayForum] listing price theory debunked!



    The theory that if you do not receive 25 calls by Friday your price is to high makes no sense.  If the address is withheld in the ad how does anyone know if the house is truly worth 200K listing at 100K or 800K listing at 400K.  Our town has 4 bedroom homes that range between 200K an 1.5 Million.  Based on this who would know where my home falls in that range. So how on earth can Bill continually say that if the calls did not come your price was too high?!  This has nothing to do with starting price and has everything to do with the number of houses listed on craigs list is massive.  It seems to be a couple of hundred an hour get listed in the Chicago area.   Our homes are like a spec of sand on the beach of homes.  This is why the phone does not ring and the emails are only from listing agents. The market is SWAMPED with inventory!!!!  You are trying to convince us that our candy is priced too high but in reality we are trying to sell our candy on the street corner on Halloween night.  Any price is too high.    


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From tgarter at comcast.net  Thu Jun 25 15:09:18 2009
From: tgarter at comcast.net (tgarter at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:09:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [5-DayForum] listing price theory debunked!
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Tim 
I just checked west chicago and only 2 ad Wed and 2 Thur for 4 bedroom homes 
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From: "Tim Dever" <tdever at monkeysarcades.com> 
To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:36:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
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Aaron, 

I have 2 ads on craigs list with no results to mention. Bolingbrook the town is in the ad. I have nothing else to do. 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Aaron Stokes 
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:45 AM 
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] listing price theory debunked! 


You need to put the town or boro or suburb your in. use common sense and it will work.... it's very simple, just look at your situation from the outside and advise your self from there, you can get creative and pull this off.... just think about it a while and try..... it can't hurt. 



Aaron 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tim Dever 
To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:32 PM 
Subject: [5-DayForum] listing price theory debunked! 



The theory that if you do not receive 25 calls by Friday your price is to high makes no sense. If the address is withheld in the ad how does anyone know if the house is truly worth 200K listing at 100K or 800K listing at 400K. Our town has 4 bedroom homes that range between 200K an 1.5 Million. Based on this who would know where my home falls in that range. So how on earth can Bill continually say that if the calls did not come your price was too high?! This has nothing to do with starting price and has everything to do with the number of houses listed on craigs list is massive. It seems to be a couple of hundred an hour get listed in the Chicago area. Our homes are like a spec of sand on the beach of homes. This is why the phone does not ring and the emails are only from listing agents. The market is SWAMPED with inventory!!!! You are trying to convince us that our candy is priced too high but in reality we are trying to sell our candy on the street corner on Halloween night. Any price is too high. 

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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Thu Jun 25 14:10:41 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:10:41 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Message-ID: <005001c9f5c0$6edc0a10$6701a8c0@PC229962744102>

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 

Tim
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
  Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....


  I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

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From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com  Thu Jun 25 16:45:26 2009
From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:45:26 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Can you provide a link to your craigslist ad? Also, a sample of your
newspaper ad and the city that your home is in.

 

-Naji

 

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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


 

Tim

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To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Thu Jun 25 16:51:17 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:51:17 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <bca.4f04d45f.37753d45@aol.com>

_http://desmoines.craigslist.org/reo/1236970556.html_ 
(http://desmoines.craigslist.org/reo/1236970556.html)  is  the Craig's List ad.  Newspaper is:
 
      SOUTHEAST  DM  BY OWNER  3/BR 2/Bath 2 Car  Garage  All  Completely 
Updated   $79,500 or Best Offer  Inspection  Sat-Sun 10-5   Will be sold 
Sunday Night to  HIGHEST BIDDER  (515)988-1625
 
This is in Des Moines Iowa.  What are you looking for?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/25/2009 3:46:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:

 
Can you provide a  link to your craigslist ad? Also, a sample of your 
newspaper ad and the city  that your home is in. 
-Naji 
 
  
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From:  
5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com  
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of Tim  Dever
Sent: Thursday, June  25, 2009 2:11 PM
To:  How To Sell Your Home in  5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going  so far....
 
I have had 4 emails  that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do 
not see any  potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price 
has  nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any 
knowledge of the  value of my home because they do not have an address. They only 
have the  knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil  
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.   Its 
that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and  interest spread way 
too thin.  I had high hopes for this  program.  I think I am going to now 
list on the MLS myself and offer a  cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  
I will let all  realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them 
of a  few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have  
them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the  
punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
----- Original  Message ----- 
 
From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)   
 
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
 
Sent: Thursday, June  25, 2009 12:07 PM
 
Subject: [5-DayForum] How  it's going so far....
 

 
I received three  calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 
6/25.   Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper  ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's  calls.
 

 
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From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com  Thu Jun 25 16:58:15 2009
From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:58:15 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
In-Reply-To: <bca.4f04d45f.37753d45@aol.com>
References: <bca.4f04d45f.37753d45@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8A881D6E66244ED5BD162E6DFB9D1534@NSKHome>

Just wanted to make sure that Tim's ad conforms to what Bill shows in his
book. One way to tell someone that this is a bargain is to put the
Subdivision name. If someone, knows that homes in the subdivision you name
are selling for more than twice your advertised price, then they will call,
but if they don't know the exact location of the home then to the average
buyer, it's just another dump.

 

Just my 2 cents worth

 

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From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:51 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/reo/1236970556.html is the Craig's List ad.
Newspaper is:

 


SOUTHEAST DM

             BY OWNER


        3/BR 2/Bath 2 Car Garage


         All Completely Updated


          $79,500 or Best Offer


        Inspection Sat-Sun 10-5


     Will be sold Sunday Night to


HIGHEST BIDDER

        (515)988-1625

 

This is in Des Moines Iowa.  What are you looking for?

 

Janet

 

In a message dated 6/25/2009 3:46:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:

Can you provide a link to your craigslist ad? Also, a sample of your
newspaper ad and the city that your home is in.

 

-Naji

 


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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


 

Tim

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Janetislight at aol.com 

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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From damian_colden at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 25 17:24:40 2009
From: damian_colden at yahoo.com (Damian Colden)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:24:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
In-Reply-To: <bca.4f04d45f.37753d45@aol.com>
References: <bca.4f04d45f.37753d45@aol.com>
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Why did you post it under the "reo" category and not the "by owner" category?

 Dac Colden




________________________________
From: "Janetislight at aol.com" <Janetislight at aol.com>
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:51:17 PM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/reo/1236970556.html is
the Craig's List ad.  Newspaper is:
 
SOUTHEAST DM              BY OWNER 
        3/BR 2/Bath 2 Car Garage 
         All Completely Updated 
          $79,500 or Best Offer 
        Inspection Sat-Sun 10-5 
     Will be sold Sunday Night to 
HIGHEST BIDDER         (515)988-1625 
 
This is in Des Moines Iowa.  What are you looking for?
 
Janet
 
In a message dated 6/25/2009 3:46:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:
Can you provide a link to your craigslist ad? Also, a sample of your newspaper ad and the city that your home is in.
 
-Naji
 

________________________________
 
From:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 
I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 
 
Tim
----- Original Message ----- 
From:Janetislight at aol.com 
To:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
Sent:Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
Subject:[5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 
I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.
 
Janet
 
 

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Thu Jun 25 17:50:29 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:50:29 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <c85.513e4b1a.37754b25@aol.com>

I don't know why that is in the link, but it is in the real estate all and  
real estate by owner categories.  I saw that too and was what the  heck?  
LOL
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/25/2009 4:26:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
damian_colden at yahoo.com writes:

Why  did you post it under the "reo" category and not the "by owner" 
category?

Dac Colden  



 
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 From: "Janetislight at aol.com"  <Janetislight at aol.com>
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:51:17  PM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  How it's going so far....

_http://desmoines.craigslist.org/reo/1236970556.html_ 
(http://desmoines.craigslist.org/reo/1236970556.html)  is  the Craig's List ad.  Newspaper is:
 
      SOUTHEAST  DM  BY OWNER  3/BR 2/Bath 2  Car Garage  All  Completely 
Updated   $79,500 or Best Offer  Inspection  Sat-Sun 10-5  Will be sold 
Sunday Night  to  HIGHEST  BIDDER  (515)988-1625
 
This is in Des Moines Iowa.  What are you looking for?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/25/2009 3:46:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:

 
Can you provide a  link to your craigslist ad? Also, a sample of your 
newspaper ad and the city  that your home is in. 
-Naji 
 
  
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From:  
5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com  
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of Tim  Dever
Sent: Thursday, June  25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To  Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's  going so far....
 
I have had 4  emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do 
not see  any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price 
 has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any 
knowledge  of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only  
have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil  
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.   Its 
that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and  interest spread way 
too thin.  I had high hopes for this  program.  I think I am going to now 
list on the MLS myself and offer a  cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  
I will let all  realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them 
of a  few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will  have 
them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to  the 
punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
----- Original  Message ----- 
 
From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)   
 
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
 
Sent: Thursday, June  25, 2009 12:07 PM
 
Subject: [5-DayForum]  How it's going so far....
 

 
I received three  calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 
6/25.   Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper  ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's  calls.
 

 
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From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com  Thu Jun 25 17:51:42 2009
From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:51:42 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
In-Reply-To: <005001c9f5c0$6edc0a10$6701a8c0@PC229962744102>
References: <bfd.5bb7818a.377508c1@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <35F5E841656141B48FF6B0AEA273D562@NSKHome>

Tim,

 

I did some research and found your ad and the home you are trying to sell.
Here are my comments:

 

1.	The ad should include the subdivision or township so that people
have a general idea of the location of your home within Bolingbrook
2.	Your starting price is way too high. I would start at $124,500. This
is based on a couple of things:

a.	You purchased your home in 1993 for 139K. Applying a 3.5% normal
appreciation puts it around the 250K mark assuming we're in a normal market
b.	Zillow shows the zestimate for your home at a range of 202K-252K
(Actual Zestimate at 236K)
c.	Additionally, the agent you had still has the home listed with still
has it posted on zillow at 279K

3.	Clean up the Zillow stuff as many Buyers go to Zillow as a starting
point to get an idea of what to pay for a home. If they see the 279K listing
price that's there, they will get confused or scared off.
4.	Make sure the ad on craigslist and in the paper are similar to
Bill's book.

 

Let me know if you have any questions.

 

-Naji

 

 

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From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


 

Tim

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From: Janetislight at aol.com 

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com  Thu Jun 25 18:04:08 2009
From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:04:08 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
In-Reply-To: <c85.513e4b1a.37754b25@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <188EEC00BA0C47F0A274D19C0864AF21@NSKHome>

On Craigslist, reo is for real estate owners and not REO :-). reb is for
Real Estate Brokers

 

-Naji

 

 

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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:50 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I don't know why that is in the link, but it is in the real estate all and
real estate by owner categories.  I saw that too and was what the heck?  LOL

 

Janet

 

 

In a message dated 6/25/2009 4:26:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
damian_colden at yahoo.com writes:

Why did you post it under the "reo" category and not the "by owner"
category?

 

Dac Colden 

 

 


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From: "Janetislight at aol.com" <Janetislight at aol.com>
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:51:17 PM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/reo/1236970556.html is the Craig's List ad.
Newspaper is:

 


SOUTHEAST DM

             BY OWNER


        3/BR 2/Bath 2 Car Garage


         All Completely Updated


          $79,500 or Best Offer


        Inspection Sat-Sun 10-5


     Will be sold Sunday Night to


HIGHEST BIDDER

        (515)988-1625

 

This is in Des Moines Iowa.  What are you looking for?

 

Janet

 

In a message dated 6/25/2009 3:46:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:

Can you provide a link to your craigslist ad? Also, a sample of your
newspaper ad and the city that your home is in.

 

-Naji

 


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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


 

Tim

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Janetislight at aol.com 

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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From damian_colden at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 25 21:01:21 2009
From: damian_colden at yahoo.com (Damian Colden)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:01:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Ahhhh!!! That explains it.  

Obviously, I never paid attention to the URLs related to Craigslist ads either......

 Dac Colden
Realtor
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Grand Blanc, MI





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From: Naji <nkhouri at cfl.rr.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:04:08 PM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 
On Craigslist, reo is for real estate
owners and not REO J? reb is for Real Estate Brokers
 
-Naji
 
 

________________________________
 
From:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:50
PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re:
[5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 
I don't know why that is in the link, but
it is in the real estate all and real estate by owner categories.  I saw
that too and was what the heck?  LOL
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/25/2009 4:26:35 P.M.
Central Daylight Time, damian_colden at yahoo.com writes:
Why did you post it under the
"reo" category and not the "by owner" category?
 
Dac Colden 
 
 

________________________________
 
From:"Janetislight at aol.com" <Janetislight at aol.com>
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009
4:51:17 PM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's
going so far....
http://desmoines.craigslist.org/reo/1236970556.html is
the Craig's List ad.  Newspaper is:
 
SOUTHEAST DM              BY OWNER 
        3/BR 2/Bath 2 Car Garage 
         All Completely Updated 
          $79,500 or Best Offer 
        Inspection Sat-Sun 10-5 
     Will be sold Sunday Night to 
HIGHEST BIDDER         (515)988-1625 
 
This is in Des Moines Iowa . 
What are you looking for?
 
Janet
 
In a message dated 6/25/2009 3:46:47 P.M.
Central Daylight Time, nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:
Can you provide a link to your craigslist ad? Also, a sample of
your newspaper ad and the city that your home is in.
 
-Naji
 

________________________________
 
From:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11
PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's
going so far....
 
I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from
craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever. 
I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because
no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an
address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range
between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the
inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales
have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for
this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer
a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all
realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few
thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the
punch. 
 
Tim
----- Original Message ----- 
From:Janetislight at aol.com 
To:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
Sent:Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
Subject:[5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 
I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. 
So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two
from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest
of today's calls.
 
Janet
 
 

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Thu Jun 25 21:23:21 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:23:21 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <cc7.574ffbf0.37757d09@aol.com>

Well, so far only 9/25.  This may very well get canceled.   Grrrrrr...  I 
thought this was proven enough to work.  Ah well, I'll  update you tomorrow.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/25/2009 8:02:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
damian_colden at yahoo.com writes:

Ahhhh!!!  That explains it.  

Obviously, I never paid attention to the URLs  related to Craigslist ads 
either......

Dac Colden  
Realtor
Keller Williams  Realty
Grand Blanc, MI



 
____________________________________
 From: Naji  <nkhouri at cfl.rr.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days  
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:04:08  PM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum]  How it's going so far....


On Craigslist, reo is  for real estate owners and not REO J? reb is for 
Real  Estate Brokers 
-Naji 
 

 
  
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From:  
5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com  
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of  Janetislight at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:50  PM
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 
I don't know why  that is in the link, but it is in the real estate all and 
real estate by owner  categories.  I saw that too and was what the heck?   
LOL
 

 
Janet
 

 

 
 
In a message dated  6/25/2009 4:26:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
damian_colden at yahoo.com  writes:

 
Why did you post it under the "reo"  category and not the "by owner" 
category? 
 

Dac Colden  
 

 
 
  
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From:  "Janetislight at aol.com" <Janetislight at aol.com>
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:51:17  PM
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... 
 
_http://desmoines.craigslist.org/reo/1236970556.html_ 
(http://desmoines.craigslist.org/reo/1236970556.html)  is  the Craig's List ad.  Newspaper is:
 

       
SOUTHEAST  DM  
BY OWNER   
3/BR 2/Bath 2 Car Garage   
All Completely Updated   
$79,500 or Best Offer   
Inspection  Sat-Sun 10-5   
Will be sold Sunday Night to   
HIGHEST  BIDDER  
(515)988-1625
 

 
This is in Des  Moines Iowa .  What are you looking for?
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
In a message dated  6/25/2009 3:46:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
nkhouri at cfl.rr.com  writes:

 
Can you provide a  link to your craigslist ad? Also, a sample of your 
newspaper ad and the  city that your home is in. 
-Naji 
 
  
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From:  
5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com  
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of Tim  Dever
Sent: Thursday,  June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To:  How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's  going so far....
 
I have had 4  emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do 
not  see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that  
price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any  
knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an  address. They only 
have the knowledge of the town and homes here  range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
here.  The phone is not ringing  because the inventory is massive.  Its 
that simple.   Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way 
too  thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to  now 
list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to  the buyers agent.  
I will let all realtors in the area know  a cash bonus paid directly to 
them of a few thousand is there if  they line up a buyer.  This way I will have 
them all interested  in selling my home and beating their competitor to the 
 punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
----- Original  Message ----- 
 
From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)   
 
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
 
Sent: Thursday,  June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
 
Subject: [5-DayForum]  How it's going so far....
 

 
I received  three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at  
6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two  from newspaper ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to include  the rest of today's calls.
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
  
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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Fri Jun 26 00:16:12 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:16:12 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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I appriciate the input.  You may have done some investigating that the  
average person likely would not do prior to making a simple phone  
call. An interested buyer would just call
To inquire it's much easier right? The info in the ad originally had  
no pics that had no results so I added them. Still nothing. Regarding  
price, I read too many forums with negative results when priced to low  
or half. The veiwers of craigslist still have no idea of any true  
value. No more would line up here at 125k and if they did they likely  
are qualified for around the same. FYI I do not think zillow is aware  
of the 60k addition I put on2 years ago. I still contend if they have  
no idea of value prior to a call, price means nothing! I will be  
listing mls on my own and offer a high commision to buyers agent! This  
will increase showings. I will let all local realtors know I am paying  
4 or 5 percent. Most are paying 2.5.  This will move my home to the  
top of their lists. Why pay a commision to a listing agent. Makes more  
sense to double commision to who ever delivers a buyer. Maybe I will  
write a book on this idea to subsidize my losses!
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:51 PM, "Naji" <nkhouri at cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> Tim,
>
>
>
> I did some research and found your ad and the home you are trying to  
> sell. Here are my comments:
>
>
>
> The ad should include the subdivision or township so that people  
> have a general idea of the location of your home within Bolingbrook
> Your starting price is way too high? I would start at $124,500. This 
>  is based on a couple of things:
> You purchased your home in 1993 for 139K? Applying a 3.5% normal app 
> reciation puts it around the 250K mark assuming we?re in a normal ma 
> rket
> Zillow shows the zestimate for your home at a range of 202K-252K  
> (Actual Zestimate at 236K)
> Additionally, the agent you had still has the home listed with still  
> has it posted on zillow at 279K
> Clean up the Zillow stuff as many Buyers go to Zillow as a starting  
> point to get an idea of what to pay for a home? If they see the 279K 
>  listing price that?s there, they will get confused or scared off.
> Make sure the ad on craigslist and in the paper are similar to Bill? 
> s book.
>
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
>
>
> -Naji
>
>
>
>
>
> From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>  [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>
>
>
> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I  
> do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still  
> contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls  
> because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because  
> they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the  
> town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone  
> is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.   
> Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too  
> thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now  
> list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers  
> agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid  
> directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a  
> buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home  
> and beating their competitor to the punch.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Janetislight at aol.com
>
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
>
> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>
>
>
> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm  
> at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from  
> newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest  
> of today's calls.
>
>
>
> Janet
>
>
>
>
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From susies07 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 08:03:28 2009
From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:03:28 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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If I were you  listing in just the mls it's is a little more than a puff in
the wind. IF you don't have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real
estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into
Cen 21's click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program
doesn't work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go
for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they
always get that. 

Susie

 

From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


 

Tim

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Janetislight at aol.com 

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Jun 26 08:03:39 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:03:39 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <c75.54173626.3776131b@aol.com>

11/25  
 
 
In a message dated 6/25/2009 11:17:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tdever at monkeysarcades.com writes:

I appriciate the input.  You may have done some investigating that  the 
average person likely would not do prior to making a simple phone call. An  
interested buyer would just call
To inquire it's much easier right? The  info in the ad originally had no 
pics that had no results so I added them.  Still nothing. Regarding price, I 
read too many forums with negative results  when priced to low or half. The 
veiwers of craigslist still have no idea of  any true value. No more would 
line up here at 125k and if they did they likely  are qualified for around the 
same. FYI I do not think zillow is aware of the  60k addition I put on2 
years ago. I still contend if they have no idea of  value prior to a call, 
price means nothing! I will be listing mls on my own  and offer a high commision 
to buyers agent! This will increase showings. I  will let all local 
realtors know I am paying 4 or 5 percent. Most are paying  2.5.  This will move my 
home to the top of their lists. Why pay a  commision to a listing agent. 
Makes more sense to double commision to who ever  delivers a buyer. Maybe I 
will write a book on this idea to subsidize my  losses!
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:51 PM, "Naji" <_nkhouri at cfl.rr.com_ 
(mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com) >  wrote:




  
 
Tim, 
I did some research  and found your ad and the home you are trying to sell. 
Here are my  comments: 
    1.  The ad should include the  subdivision or township so that people 
have a general idea of the location  of your home within Bolingbrook  
    2.  Your starting price is way too  high? I would start at $124,500. 
This is based on a couple of  things:  
    1.  You purchased your home in  1993 for 139K? Applying a 3.5% normal 
appreciation puts it around the  250K mark assuming we?re in a normal market  
    2.  Zillow shows the zestimate  for your home at a range of 202K-252K 
(Actual Zestimate at  236K)  
    3.  Additionally, the agent you  had still has the home listed with 
still has it posted on zillow at  279K 
    3.  Clean up the Zillow stuff as  many Buyers go to Zillow as a 
starting point to get an idea of what to pay  for a home? If they see the 279K 
listing price that?s there, they will get  confused or scared off.  
    4.  Make sure the ad on craigslist  and in the paper are similar to Bill
?s book.  
Let me know if you  have any questions. 
-Naji 
 

 
  
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Sent: Thursday, June  25, 2009 2:11 PM
To:  How To Sell Your Home in  5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's  going so far....
 
I have had 4  emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do 
not see  any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price 
 has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any 
knowledge  of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only  
have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil  
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.   Its 
that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and  interest spread way 
too thin.  I had high hopes for this  program.  I think I am going to now 
list on the MLS myself and offer a  cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  
I will let all  realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them 
of a  few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will  have 
them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to  the 
punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
----- Original  Message ----- 
 
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To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
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Sent: Thursday, June  25, 2009 12:07 PM
 
Subject: [5-DayForum]  How it's going so far....
 

 
I received three  calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 
6/25.   Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper  ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's  calls.
 

 
Janet
 

 
  
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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Fri Jun 26 08:50:28 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:50:28 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Suzie,
I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a  
handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at  
realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the  
buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than  
food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten  
the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a  
book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

> If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a  
> puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web s 
> ites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would  
> suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use i 
> t as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in  
> a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you mus 
> t do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as ma 
> ny realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get cr 
> eative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get tha 
> t?
>
> Susie
>
>
>
> From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>  [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>
>
>
> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I  
> do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still  
> contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls  
> because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because  
> they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the  
> town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone  
> is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.   
> Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too  
> thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now  
> list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers  
> agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid  
> directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a  
> buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home  
> and beating their competitor to the punch.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Janetislight at aol.com
>
> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
>
> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>
>
>
> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm  
> at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from  
> newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest  
> of today's calls.
>
>
>
> Janet
>
>
>
>
>
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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Fri Jun 26 09:23:18 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:23:18 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Tim -
If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers.
It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using common sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless.  Perhaps it's the competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It happens!
Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim. It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you.
Rosemarie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Dever 
  To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days 
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....



  Suzie,
  I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:


    If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

    Susie



    From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
    Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
    To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
    Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....



    I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 



    Tim

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Janetislight at aol.com 

      To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

      Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

      Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....



      I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.



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From bill at effros.com  Fri Jun 26 09:35:54 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:35:54 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote:
>
> Suzie,
> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a 
> handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at 
> realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the 
> buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than 
> food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten 
> the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a 
> book and start a forum.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:susies07 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a 
>> puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web 
>> sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would 
>> suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it 
>> as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a 
>> couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must 
>> do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many 
>> realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get 
>> creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that?
>>
>> Susie
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 
>> 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>> <mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> 
>> [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>> <mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>] *On Behalf 
>> Of *Tim Dever
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
>> *To:* How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
>> *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>
>>  
>>
>> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I 
>> do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend 
>> that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one 
>> has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an 
>> address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here 
>> range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing 
>> because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and 
>> short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high 
>> hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS 
>> myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will 
>> let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to 
>> them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I 
>> will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their 
>> competitor to the punch. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>     *From:* Janetislight at aol.com <mailto:Janetislight at aol.com>
>>
>>     *To:* 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>     <mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>>
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
>>
>>     *Subject:* [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>
>>      
>>
>>     I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So,
>>     I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two
>>     from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include
>>     the rest of today's calls.
>>
>>      
>>
>>     Janet
>>
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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Fri Jun 26 09:51:54 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:51:54 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Punt

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On Jun 26, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:

> Tim,
>
> What will you do if it doesn't work?
>
> Bill Effros
> Author
>
> Tim Dever wrote:
>>
>>
>> Suzie,
>> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a  
>> handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at  
>> realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the  
>> buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating  
>> than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will  
>> sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I  
>> will write a book and start a forum.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more tha 
>>> n a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd 
>>>  ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and effor 
>>> ts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I a 
>>> m going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for  
>>> me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor an 
>>> d the two things you must do is get people to see it and adverti 
>>> se on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! Th 
>>> ey always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or  
>>> olive garden as they always get that?
>>>
>>> Susie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>>>  [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.   
>>> I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still  
>>> contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls  
>>> because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because  
>>> they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the  
>>> town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The  
>>> phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that  
>>> simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest  
>>> spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think  
>>> I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus  
>>> directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area  
>>> know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there  
>>> if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested  
>>> in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Janetislight at aol.com
>>>
>>> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm  
>>> at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from  
>>> newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the  
>>> rest of today's calls.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Janet
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Fri Jun 26 10:16:33 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:16:33 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
In-Reply-To: <E6BA40CF9BF94E559B0FE8353C3B2F67@rosemarifv6onv>
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Rosemarie,

No chip herei just need to move before school starts I need to get my  
kids registered. I'm just frustrated. I saw far to many forums with  
people mentioning huge efforts with results that did not cut it. They  
consistently made mention of the price falling short. They said the  
starting price was too low. I priced a bit high but do not see how  
anyone could or would know based on no address was mentioned. No real  
calls have come in and it's Friday. I can only conclude and see that  
maybe bills statement in his book may no longer be accurate. More  
buyers exist than homes Is now more homes than buyers. I have not been  
in real estate but I joined foreclosure. Com and realtytrac.Com and  
can see that the amount of inventory is stagering. Selling anything at  
retail price or close is difficult when the wholesale inventory is at  
these levels. I am sure the 5 day program works very well in 95  
percent of the economies. This country is a mess right now. All rules  
and conventional wisdom are a thing of the past. It's not bills book  
that's wrong. It's the economy at large that is wrong. I put it in  
gods hands on his time it will sell!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2009, at 8:23 AM, "rosemarie-fred" <rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com 
 > wrote:

> Tim -
> If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers.
> It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5- 
> day sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are  
> not following the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I  
> have been following this have done this: They say that the system  
> doesn't work because they tried it except... (Insert your own  
> exception). You seem to be using common sense, which this system  
> does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could advertise for less  
> than half the price and still sell at a price you can live with. But  
> it works for many of us, nonetheless.  Perhaps it's the competition  
> of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love with  
> the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It  
> happens!
> Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to  
> Tim. It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you.
> Rosemarie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim Dever
> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>
>
> Suzie,
> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a  
> handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at  
> realtors    offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the  
> buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating  
> than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will  
> sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will  
> write a book and start a forum.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than  
>> a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) w 
>> eb sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I  
>> would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going  
>> to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I  
>> try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two th 
>> ings you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the inte 
>> rnet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for 
>>  food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as th 
>> ey always get that?
>>
>> Susie
>>
>>
>> From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>>  [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>
>>
>> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.   
>> I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still  
>> contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls  
>> because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because  
>> they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the  
>> town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone  
>> is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.   
>> Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too  
>> thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to  
>> now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the  
>> buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash  
>> bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line  
>> up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my  
>> home and beating their competitor to the punch.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Janetislight at aol.com
>>
>> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
>>
>> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>
>>
>> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm  
>> at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from  
>> newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the  
>> rest of today's calls.
>>
>>
>> Janet
>>
>>
>>
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From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com  Fri Jun 26 10:25:10 2009
From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:25:10 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Message-ID: <11E1ABF785034F41956E1B4D4807D91A@NSKHome>

It's not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not
support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or
bonuses or other incentives.

 

Remember, Realtors don't find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact
a realtor to use his or her services. Additionally, when you go with a flat
fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and
many Realtors will not even show anything that's not listed as an Exclusive
Right To Sell.

 

If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what
method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed
with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would
suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you're in, including
recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties,
online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place
in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you
don't get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.

 

Wish you all the best,

 

-Naji

 

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From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote: 


Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull
of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my
home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it's is a little more than a puff in
the wind. IF you don't have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real
estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into
Cen 21's click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program
doesn't work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go
for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they
always get that. 

Susie

 

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


 

Tim

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Janetislight at aol.com 

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Jun 26 12:49:23 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:49:23 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <d07.57fed17c.37765613@aol.com>

I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12  
contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the  signs 
down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see  how it goes.  
Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day  sales here said that 
she received most of her telephone calls during the  weekend.   What to do, 
what to do?
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:

 
It?s not going to  work if you have a certain price in mind that does not 
support the market  price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or 
bonuses or other  incentives? 
Remember, Realtors  don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then 
contact a realtor to use his  or her services? Additionally, when you go with a 
flat fee listing, the  listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS 
and many Realtors will  not even show anything that?s not listed as an 
Exclusive Right To  Sell. 
If you really want to  sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of 
what method is used. I see  you started pretty high on the home when it was 
listed with Coldwell Banker  and went down to 279K and still no results. I 
would suggest you run a complete  analysis on the area that you?re in, 
including recent sales, days on market,  current foreclosures, bank owned 
properties, online analysis, and historical  analysis to get an idea of what taking 
place in your neighborhood right now,  then price the home accordingly. If you 
don?t get any showings in the first 3  weeks, drop the price by at least 
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3  weeks. 
Wish you all the  best, 
-Naji 
 
  
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From:  
5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com  
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of Bill  Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26,  2009 9:36 AM
To:  How To Sell Your Home in  5-Days
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't  work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote:   
 

Suzie,
 
I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me  realtor.com and a 
handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers  at realtors offices 
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I  think cash is king 
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong  2.5 percent is 
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will  push my 
home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent  from my iPhone
 

On Jun 26, 2009, at  7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) >  wrote:

 
 
If I were  you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff 
in the  wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real 
estate  you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look 
into Cen  21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this 
program  doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a  
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and 
advertise  on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go 
 for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they  
always get that?  
Susie 
 
 
From:  
5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=_gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
[_mailto:5-dayforum-bounces_ (mailto:5-dayforum-bounces) 
+susies07=_gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) ]  On Behalf Of Tim  Dever
Sent: Thursday, June  25, 2009 2:11 PM
To:  How To Sell Your Home in  5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's  going so far....

 
I have had 4 emails that have  been only realtors from craigslist.  I do 
not see any potential in  this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price 
has nothing to do  with the number of calls because no one has any 
knowledge of the value of my  home because they do not have an address. They only 
have the knowledge  of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
here.  The  phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that 
 simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and  interest spread way 
too thin.  I had high hopes for this  program.  I think I am going to now 
list on the MLS myself and offer a  cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  
I will let all  realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them 
of a  few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will  have 
them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to  the 
punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
----- Original Message -----  
 
From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)   
 
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
 
Sent:  Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07  PM
 
Subject:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so  far....
 

 
I received three calls  yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 
6/25.  Nothing  from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  
 I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's  calls.
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
  
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From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com  Fri Jun 26 13:18:43 2009
From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:18:43 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
In-Reply-To: <d07.57fed17c.37765613@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <A5BBD3BBF77242DDBDC086401D25967E@NSKHome>

Janet,

 

I would pull the plug if you don't get the 25 contacts by tonight. We've
done many 5-day sales and only went forward with 1 that didn't get the 25
calls (We only received 23 by Friday night in that particular situation.)

 

Best wishes,

 

-Naji

 

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From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:49 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12
contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the
signs down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it
goes.  Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said
that she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend.   What to
do, what to do?

 

Janet

 

 

In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:

It's not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not
support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or
bonuses or other incentives.

 

Remember, Realtors don't find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact
a realtor to use his or her services. Additionally, when you go with a flat
fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and
many Realtors will not even show anything that's not listed as an Exclusive
Right To Sell.

 

If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what
method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed
with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would
suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you're in, including
recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties,
online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place
in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you
don't get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.

 

Wish you all the best,

 

-Naji

 


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From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
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Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote: 


Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull
of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my
home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it's is a little more than a puff in
the wind. IF you don't have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real
estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into
Cen 21's click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program
doesn't work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go
for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they
always get that. 

Susie

 

From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


 

Tim

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Janetislight at aol.com 

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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From bill at effros.com  Fri Jun 26 14:02:44 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:02:44 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
In-Reply-To: <d07.57fed17c.37765613@aol.com>
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Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.  Your home is not currently worth 
anything near what you hope to get for it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day 
Method.  Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that succeeds, let us know.

Bill Effros
Author





Janetislight at aol.com wrote:
> I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 
> contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear 
> the signs down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and 
> see how it goes.  Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day 
> sales here said that she received most of her telephone calls during 
> the weekend.   What to do, what to do?
>  
> Janet
>  
>  
> In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:
>
>     It?s not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that
>     does not support the market price regardless of how much you offer
>     in commissions or bonuses or other incentives?
>
>      
>
>     Remember, Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and
>     then contact a realtor to use his or her services? Additionally,
>     when you go with a flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a
>     Limited Service listing in MLS and many Realtors will not even
>     show anything that?s not listed as an Exclusive Right To Sell.
>
>      
>
>     If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right
>     regardless of what method is used. I see you started pretty high
>     on the home when it was listed with Coldwell Banker and went down
>     to 279K and still no results. I would suggest you run a complete
>     analysis on the area that you?re in, including recent sales, days
>     on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties, online
>     analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking
>     place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home
>     accordingly. If you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks,
>     drop the price by at least 3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.
>
>      
>
>     Wish you all the best,
>
>      
>
>     -Naji
>
>      
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     *From:*
>     5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>     [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]
>     *On Behalf Of *Bill Effros
>     *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
>     *To:* How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
>     *Subject:* [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so
>     far....
>
>      
>
>     Tim,
>
>     What will you do if it doesn't work?
>
>     Bill Effros
>     Author
>
>     Tim Dever wrote:
>
>
>     Suzie,
>
>     I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a
>     handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at
>     realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the
>     buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating
>     than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will
>     sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I
>     will write a book and start a forum.
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>     On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:susies07 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>     If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than
>>     a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd )
>>     web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts.
>>     I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am
>>     going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me
>>     when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and
>>     the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
>>     on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They
>>     always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or
>>     olive garden as they always get that?
>>
>>     Susie
>>
>>      
>>
>>     *From:*
>>     5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>     <mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>>     [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>     <mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>] *On
>>     Behalf Of *Tim Dever
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
>>     *To:* How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
>>     *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>
>>      
>>
>>     I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from
>>     craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program
>>     whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with
>>     the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value
>>     of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
>>     the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and
>>     1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is
>>     massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have
>>     calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for
>>     this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself
>>     and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let
>>     all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to
>>     them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This
>>     way I will have them all interested in selling my home and
>>     beating their competitor to the punch. 
>>
>>      
>>
>>     Tim
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>         *From:* Janetislight at aol.com <mailto:Janetislight at aol.com>
>>
>>         *To:* 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>         <mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>>
>>         *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
>>
>>         *Subject:* [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>
>>          
>>
>>         I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. 
>>         So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs
>>         and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight
>>         to include the rest of today's calls.
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Janet
>>
>>          
>>
>>          
>>
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From tomwilson64 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 26 14:12:20 2009
From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:12:20 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
In-Reply-To: <4A450D44.600@effros.com>
References: <d07.57fed17c.37765613@aol.com> <4A450D44.600@effros.com>
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I agree with Bill.  The system assumes you will get calls on the weekend such that the 25 should represent what will turn into 50.  

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:03 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.  Your home is not currently worth anything near what you hope to get for it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day Method.  Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that succeeds, let us know.

Bill Effros
Author





Janetislight at aol.com wrote: 

I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the signs down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes.  Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said that she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend.   What to do, what to do?

 

Janet

 

 

In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:

It?s not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or bonuses or other incentives?

 

Remember, Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact a realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an Exclusive Right To Sell.

 

If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, including recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties, online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least 3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.

 

Wish you all the best,

 

-Naji

 


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From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote: 


Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

Susie

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
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I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 

 

Tim

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I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Jun 26 14:16:56 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:16:56 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <cb5.58c7001c.37766a98@aol.com>

I'm going to wait until this evening to decide.  Right now I have  15.  
Three real buyers that know what the house is worth and understand the  price 
is just to start bidders bidding.  I'll let you know if the number  climbs.
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:13:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tomwilson64 at yahoo.com writes:

 
I  agree with Bill.  The system assumes you will get calls on the weekend  
such that the 25 should represent what will turn into 50.    
 
 
From:  
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:03  PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.   Your home is not currently worth 
anything near what you hope to get for  it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day  Method.  
Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that  succeeds, let us know.

Bill Effros
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_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)  wrote:   
 
I don't know how my  thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 
contacts and two who I feel  are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the signs 
down.  I  think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes.  
 Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said that  
she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend.   What  to do, 
what to do?
 

 
Janet
 

 

 
 
In a message dated  6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_nkhouri at cfl.rr.com_ (mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com)   writes:

 
It?s  not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not 
support  the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or 
bonuses  or other incentives? 
Remember,  Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then 
contact a realtor  to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a 
flat fee  listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS 
and many  Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an 
Exclusive Right  To Sell. 
If  you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of 
what  method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was 
listed  with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I 
would  suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, 
including  recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned 
properties,  online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking 
place  in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you 
 don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least  
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks. 
Wish  you all the best, 
-Naji 
 
  
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Subject: [Norton  AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so  far....
Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill  Effros
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Tim Dever wrote:  
 

Suzie,
 
I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com  and a 
handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at  realtors offices 
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I  think cash is king 
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I  wrong 2.5 percent is 
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and  realtors will push my 
home. If this works I will write a book and start a  forum.
Sent from my iPhone
 

On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) >  wrote:

 
 
If I were  you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff 
in the  wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real 
 estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look  
into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this  
program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to  be a 
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and  
advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They  always 
go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden  as they 
always get that?  
Susie 
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11  PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 
I have had 4  emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do 
not  see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that  
price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any  
knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an  address. They only 
have the knowledge of the town and homes here  range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
here.  The phone is not ringing  because the inventory is massive.  Its 
that simple.   Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way 
too  thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to  now 
list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to  the buyers agent.  
I will let all realtors in the area know  a cash bonus paid directly to 
them of a few thousand is there if  they line up a buyer.  This way I will have 
them all interested  in selling my home and beating their competitor to the 
 punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
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To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
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Sent: Thursday,  June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
 
Subject: [5-DayForum]  How it's going so far....
 

 
I received  three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at  
6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two  from newspaper ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to include  the rest of today's calls.
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
  
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From bill at effros.com  Fri Jun 26 14:24:54 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:24:54 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals,

I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host 
whose firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they 
believe they can sell them for.

In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, 
somebody in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it 
on a home they had had in their inventory for too long.  They followed 
the book exactly.  It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been 
offered in all the time they held it.

And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other 
homes in their inventory.

Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the 
5-Day Method.  They sell to the top bidder every time.  Some of their 
homes are sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different 
home.

When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals 
using the 5-Day Method in their area.  Now, he says all of his 
competitors are using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to 
learn that it was not being used by all professionals, all over the 
country.  He can't imagine his firm will ever go back to the old method, 
and he believes that, over time, the 5-Day Method will become the method 
of choice for all professional home sellers.

As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals.  Originally I 
developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their 
current value.  It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of 
determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were 
pricing at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and 
getting no responses as a result.

If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is 
why I changed to this formulation.  Since FSBOs aim too high, the 
starting price is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low 
enough to attract a sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers.

It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest 
possible price.  Only if you price too high do you fail to get a 
sufficient number of real buyers, and you can tell because you get an 
insufficient number of initial responses.

I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play 
the method by the book.  I believe the professionals on this list do the 
FSBOs a disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for 
professionals that are known to not work for FSBOs.

I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can get 
more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided 
only that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder.

Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum 
who spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same 
questions over and over.  The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable 
to many members who never post to the list, and I often get back-channel 
compliments for all the work done by permanent Forum members.  I should 
mention it more often.

Thanks to all of you,

Bill Effros
Author

 

rosemarie-fred wrote:
> Tim -
> If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers.
> It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 
> 5-day sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are 
> not following the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I 
> have been following this have done this: They say that the system 
> doesn't work because they tried it except... (Insert your own 
> exception). You seem to be using common sense, which this system does 
> not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could advertise for less than 
> half the price and still sell at a price you can live with. But it 
> works for many of us, nonetheless.  Perhaps it's the competition of 
> bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love with the 
> house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It happens!
> Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to 
> Tim. It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you.
> Rosemarie
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Tim Dever <mailto:tdever at monkeysarcades.com>
>     *To:* How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
>     <mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>     *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>
>
>     Suzie,
>     I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a
>     handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at
>     realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the
>     buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating
>     than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will
>     sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I
>     will write a book and start a forum.
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:susies07 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>     If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than
>>     a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd )
>>     web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts.
>>     I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am
>>     going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me
>>     when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and
>>     the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
>>     on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They
>>     always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or
>>     olive garden as they always get that?
>>
>>     Susie
>>
>>     *From:*
>>     5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>     <mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>>     [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>     <mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>] *On
>>     Behalf Of *Tim Dever
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
>>     *To:* How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
>>     *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>
>>     I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from
>>     craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program
>>     whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with
>>     the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value
>>     of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
>>     the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and
>>     1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is
>>     massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have
>>     calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for
>>     this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself
>>     and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let
>>     all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to
>>     them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This
>>     way I will have them all interested in selling my home and
>>     beating their competitor to the punch. 
>>
>>     Tim
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>         *From:* Janetislight at aol.com <mailto:Janetislight at aol.com>
>>
>>         *To:* 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>         <mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
>>
>>         *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
>>
>>         *Subject:* [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>
>>         I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. 
>>         So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs
>>         and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight
>>         to include the rest of today's calls.
>>
>>         Janet
>>
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From bill at effros.com  Fri Jun 26 14:25:07 2009
From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:25:07 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] I need to change my email address.
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Amy,

You've got to do it for yourself.  Unsubscribe and then re-subscribe.  
(or the other way around -- you can post directly to the list under this 
email address.  When you change it you will have to post once before you 
can again post directly.)  Send a "test" message to the Forum from your 
new email address so I can set up your new account.

Here's a quick link to the process:

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yourself.

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Jun 26 14:29:49 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:29:49 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <d58.44efe86b.37766d9d@aol.com>

I priced the home at half the tax assessed value.  I guess I need to  have 
a fight with the assessor.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:26:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bill at effros.com writes:

Naji,  Rosemarie, Other Professionals,

I was on an hour-long radio interview  in Boston last week with a host 
whose firm buys thousands of homes each year  at roughly 65% of what they 
believe they can sell them for.

In 2006,  when they started to become unable to make their numbers, 
somebody in the  office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a home 
they had had  in their inventory for too long.  They followed the book 
exactly.   It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in all the 
time  they held it.

And, of course, they wound up with a list of active  buyers for other homes 
in their inventory.

Since then, they have  offered all homes in their inventory using the 5-Day 
Method.  They sell  to the top bidder every time.  Some of their homes are 
sold to buyers who  come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home.

When they started  doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals 
using the 5-Day Method in  their area.  Now, he says all of his competitors are 
using the 5-Day  Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it was 
not being used by  all professionals, all over the country.  He can't 
imagine his firm will  ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over 
time, the 5-Day  Method will become the method of choice for all 
professional home  sellers.

As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals.   Originally I 
developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of  their current 
value.  It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of  determining the 
actual current value of their homes, and they were pricing at  2/3 of what 
they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no responses as  a result.

If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night  -- which is 
why I changed to this formulation.  Since FSBOs aim too high,  the starting 
price is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low  enough to 
attract a sufficient number of initial responses and real  buyers.

It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the  highest possible 
price.  Only if you price too high do you fail to get a  sufficient number 
of real buyers, and you can tell because you get an  insufficient number of 
initial responses.

I believe FSBOs will get the  highest price for their homes if they play 
the method by the book.  I  believe the professionals on this list do the 
FSBOs a disservice when they  suggest techniques appropriate for professionals 
that are known to not work  for FSBOs.

I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes  themselves can get 
more for their homes than any professional can get for  them, provided only 
that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the  high bidder.

Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals  on this Forum 
who spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same  questions 
over and over.  The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable  to many members 
who never post to the list, and I often get back-channel  compliments for 
all the work done by permanent Forum members.  I should  mention it more 
often.

Thanks to all of you,

Bill  Effros
Author



rosemarie-fred wrote:  
Tim -
If this works, I hope you will let us all  know, with numbers.
It seems as if you have developed a chip on  you shoulder about the 5-day 
sale, which is your business, but it also seems  as if you are not following 
the system. Lots of people over the couple of  years I have been following 
this have done this: They say that the  system doesn't work because they 
tried it except... (Insert your own  exception). You seem to be using common 
sense, which this system does not!  It doesn't seem sensible that you could 
advertise for less than half the  price and still sell at a price you can live 
with. But it works for many of  us, nonetheless.  Perhaps it's the 
competition of bidding against other  buyers, but once someone falls in love with the 
house, they will often bid  way more than they expected to. It happens!
Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you  put into your response to Tim. 
It's people like you that make this forum  valuable. Thank you.
Rosemarie

-----  Original Message ----- 
From:  _Tim  Dever_ (mailto:tdever at monkeysarcades.com)  
To:  _How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)  
Sent:  Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....



Suzie,
I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a  
handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors  offices 
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think  cash is king 
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong  2.5 percent is 
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors  will push my 
home. If this works I will write a book and start a  forum.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) > wrote:




 
If I were  you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff 
in  the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for  
real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you  look 
into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up  if this 
program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks.  I used to be a 
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to  see it and 
advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses  with food! They always 
go for food and get creative with food. Not  subway or olive garden as they 
always get that?  
Susie 
 
 
From:  
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009  2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so  far....

 
I  have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from  craigslist.  I do 
not see any potential in this program  whatsoever.  I still contend that 
price has nothing to do with the  number of calls because no one has any 
knowledge of the value of my home  because they do not have an address. They only 
have the knowledge  of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
here.   The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its  
that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and  interest spread way 
too thin.  I had high hopes for this  program.  I think I am going to now 
list on the MLS myself and  offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  
I will let  all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to  
them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.   This way I will 
have them all interested in selling my home and beating  their competitor to 
the punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
-----  Original Message ----- 
 
From:  _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)   
 
To:  _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
 
Sent:  Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
 
Subject:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 

 
I  received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm  at 
6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and  two from newspaper ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to  include the rest of today's calls.
 

 
Janet
 

 
  
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From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com  Fri Jun 26 14:44:37 2009
From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:44:37 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
In-Reply-To: <d58.44efe86b.37766d9d@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <93A810DDD81842CFB7B884EB002F7942@NSKHome>

Janet,

 

I hate to say it, but the assessed value is not an accurate number either.
One of the homes that we own was assessed at 430K last year; this year's
assessment is at 304K!!! Another home was assessed at 284K and ended up
selling for 350K.

 

I would price it at 50% below what the last home in your neighborhood sold
(within the last 3 months) for and use a magic number
49,500.74,500.99,500.124,500.etc.

 

You can do a complete analysis on your home to get an idea of what it
"should" sell for, then take 50% off that number.

 

Best wishes,

 

-Naji

 

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From:
5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 2:30 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I priced the home at half the tax assessed value.  I guess I need to have a
fight with the assessor.

 

Janet

 

In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:26:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
bill at effros.com writes:

Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals,

I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host whose
firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they believe
they can sell them for.

In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, somebody
in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a home
they had had in their inventory for too long.  They followed the book
exactly.  It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in all
the time they held it.

And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other homes
in their inventory.

Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the 5-Day
Method.  They sell to the top bidder every time.  Some of their homes are
sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home.

When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals using
the 5-Day Method in their area.  Now, he says all of his competitors are
using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it was
not being used by all professionals, all over the country.  He can't imagine
his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over
time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all professional
home sellers.

As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals.  Originally I
developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their
current value.  It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of
determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were pricing
at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no
responses as a result.

If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is why
I changed to this formulation.  Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting price
is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to attract a
sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers.

It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest possible
price.  Only if you price too high do you fail to get a sufficient number of
real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of
initial responses.

I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play the
method by the book.  I believe the professionals on this list do the FSBOs a
disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals that
are known to not work for FSBOs.

I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can get
more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided only
that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder.

Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum who
spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions over
and over.  The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members who
never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for all the
work done by permanent Forum members.  I should mention it more often.

Thanks to all of you,

Bill Effros
Author

 

rosemarie-fred wrote: 

Tim -

If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers.

It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day
sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following
the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following
this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they
tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using common
sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could
advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can
live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless.  Perhaps it's the
competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love
with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It
happens!

Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim.
It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you.

Rosemarie

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Tim Dever <mailto:tdever at monkeysarcades.com>  

To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
<mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>  

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM

Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 


Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull
of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my
home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it's is a little more than a puff in
the wind. IF you don't have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real
estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into
Cen 21's click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program
doesn't work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go
for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they
always get that. 

Susie

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


Tim

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Janetislight at aol.com 

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

Janet



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From tomwilson64 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 26 14:48:08 2009
From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:48:08 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Absolutely wait til this evening.  The system is to wait til Friday night.  It took me til Friday night about 8 pm to get 27 legitimate calls so you should wait.  If you don?t get there though, make sure you call each one and let them know about cancelling should you decide to cancel.

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:17 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I'm going to wait until this evening to decide.  Right now I have 15.  Three real buyers that know what the house is worth and understand the price is just to start bidders bidding.  I'll let you know if the number climbs.

 

Janet

 

 

In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:13:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tomwilson64 at yahoo.com writes:

I agree with Bill.  The system assumes you will get calls on the weekend such that the 25 should represent what will turn into 50.  

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:03 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.  Your home is not currently worth anything near what you hope to get for it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day Method.  Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that succeeds, let us know.

Bill Effros
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Janetislight at aol.com wrote: 

I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the signs down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes.  Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said that she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend.   What to do, what to do?

 

Janet

 

 

In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:

It?s not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or bonuses or other incentives?

 

Remember, Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact a realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an Exclusive Right To Sell.

 

If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, including recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties, online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least 3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.

 

Wish you all the best,

 

-Naji

 


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Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
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Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote: 


Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

Susie

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 

 

Tim

----- Original Message ----- 

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To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Jun 26 15:00:53 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:00:53 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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This is below half price of a home that is exact same style that sold last  
month on same street without renovations.
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:47:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:

 
Janet, 
I hate to say it, but  the assessed value is not an accurate number either? 
One of the homes that we  own was assessed at 430K last year; this year?s 
assessment is at 304K!!!  Another home was assessed at 284K and ended up 
selling for  350K? 
I would price it at  50% below what the last home in your neighborhood sold 
(within the last 3  months) for and use a magic number  49,500?74,500?
99,500?124,500?etc. 
You can do a complete  analysis on your home to get an idea of what it ?
should? sell for, then take  50% off that number. 
Best  wishes, 
-Naji 
 

 
  
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of  Janetislight at aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 2:30  PM
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 
I priced the home at  half the tax assessed value.  I guess I need to have 
a fight with the  assessor.
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
In a message dated  6/26/2009 1:26:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
bill at effros.com  writes:

Naji, Rosemarie,  Other Professionals,

I was on an hour-long radio interview in  Boston last  week with a host 
whose firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65%  of what they 
believe they can sell them for.

In 2006, when they  started to become unable to make their numbers, 
somebody in the office  picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a home 
they had had in  their inventory for too long.  They followed the book 
exactly.  It  sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in all the 
time they  held it.

And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers  for other homes 
in their inventory.

Since then, they have offered all  homes in their inventory using the 5-Day 
Method.  They sell to the top  bidder every time.  Some of their homes are 
sold to buyers who come to  5-Day Sales looking for a different home.

When they started doing  this in 2006, they were the only professionals 
using the 5-Day Method in  their area.  Now, he says all of his competitors are 
using the 5-Day  Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it was 
not being used by  all professionals, all over the country.  He can't 
imagine his firm  will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over 
time, the  5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all 
professional home  sellers.

As you know, I didn't write the book for  professionals.  Originally I 
developed a complex formula for pricing  homes at roughly 2/3 of their current 
value.  It soon became obvious  that FSBOs were incapable of determining the 
actual current value of their  homes, and they were pricing at 2/3 of what 
they hoped for in their wildest  dreams and getting no responses as a result.

If you price at 50%  you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is 
why I changed to this  formulation.  Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting 
price is usually  more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to 
attract a sufficient  number of initial responses and real buyers.

It doesn't matter how  low you go, you will still get the highest possible 
price.  Only if you  price too high do you fail to get a sufficient number 
of real buyers, and  you can tell because you get an insufficient number of 
initial  responses.

I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes  if they play 
the method by the book.  I believe the professionals on  this list do the 
FSBOs a disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate  for professionals 
that are known to not work for FSBOs.

I continue to  believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can get 
more for their  homes than any professional can get for them, provided only 
that they follow  the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder.

Thanks to you  both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum 
who spend so much  time maintaining order, and answering the same questions 
over and  over.  The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members 
 who never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for 
all  the work done by permanent Forum members.  I should mention it more  
often.

Thanks to all of you,

Bill  Effros
Author



rosemarie-fred wrote:   
 
Tim  -
 
If this  works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers.
 
It seems  as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day 
sale, which  is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following 
the system.  Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following 
this have done  this: They say that the system doesn't work because they 
tried it  except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using common 
sense,  which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could  
advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can  live 
with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless.  Perhaps it's the  
competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love  with 
the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It  happens!
 
Naji - I  am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim. 
It's people  like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you.
 
Rosemarie

 
----- Original  Message ----- 
 
From: _Tim  Dever_ (mailto:tdever at monkeysarcades.com)  
 
To: _How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
 
Sent: Friday, June  26, 2009 8:50 AM
 
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 

 

Suzie,
 
I am using berg  properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a 
handfull of others. I  am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices 
indicating a  double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king 
and an  extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is 
 standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my  
home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my  iPhone
 

On Jun 26,  2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) >  wrote:

 
 
If I were  you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff 
in  the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for  
real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you  look 
into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up  if this 
program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks.  I used to be a 
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to  see it and 
advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses  with food! They always 
go for food and get creative with food. Not  subway or olive garden as they 
always get that?   
Susie 
 
 
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(mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) ]  On Behalf Of Tim  Dever
Sent: Thursday,  June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How  To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's  going so far....

 
I have had 4  emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do 
not  see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that  
price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any  
knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an  address. They only 
have the knowledge of the town and homes here  range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
here.  The phone is not ringing  because the inventory is massive.  Its 
that simple.   Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way 
too  thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going  to now 
list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to  the buyers agent.  
I will let all realtors in the area  know a cash bonus paid directly to 
them of a few thousand is there  if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have 
them all  interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the 
 punch. 
 
Tim

 
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To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
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Sent: Thursday,  June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
 
Subject:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 
I  received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm  at 
6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and  two from newspaper ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to  include the rest of today's calls.
 
Janet
 
 
  
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From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com  Fri Jun 26 10:35:38 2009
From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:35:38 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Tim,

 

The method works regardless. The only thing I disagree with Bill on is the
marketing aspect. I personally believe that the more advertising and market
you do, the more buyers will come across your home, however, that will not
change the final outcome. The true price of the home is what you will get
for it that weekend. That means that your home is worth X dollars on that
particular weekend, period. You may get more or less if you wait around or
try something different, but there is no guarantee it will be more than the
weekend sale nor is there any guarantee it will be less.

 

A house is nothing more than a commodity and its worth what someone is
willing to pay for it at a particular time.

 

-Naji

 

 

 

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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:17 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Rosemarie,

 

No chip herei just need to move before school starts I need to get my kids
registered. I'm just frustrated. I saw far to many forums with people
mentioning huge efforts with results that did not cut it. They consistently
made mention of the price falling short. They said the starting price was
too low. I priced a bit high but do not see how anyone could or would know
based on no address was mentioned. No real calls have come in and it's
Friday. I can only conclude and see that maybe bills statement in his book
may no longer be accurate. More buyers exist than homes Is now more homes
than buyers. I have not been in real estate but I joined foreclosure. Com
and realtytrac.Com and can see that the amount of inventory is stagering.
Selling anything at retail price or close is difficult when the wholesale
inventory is at these levels. I am sure the 5 day program works very well in
95 percent of the economies. This country is a mess right now. All rules and
conventional wisdom are a thing of the past. It's not bills book that's
wrong. It's the economy at large that is wrong. I put it in gods hands on
his time it will sell!

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On Jun 26, 2009, at 8:23 AM, "rosemarie-fred"
<rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com> wrote:

Tim -

If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers.

It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day
sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following
the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following
this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they
tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using common
sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could
advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can
live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless.  Perhaps it's the
competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love
with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It
happens!

Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim.
It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you.

Rosemarie

----- Original Message ----- 

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To: How To Sell Your Home
<mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>  in 5-Days 

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM

Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 


Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull
of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my
home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" < <mailto:susies07 at gmail.com>
susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it's is a little more than a puff in
the wind. IF you don't have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real
estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into
Cen 21's click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program
doesn't work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go
for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they
always get that. 

Susie

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Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


Tim

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Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Fri Jun 26 17:10:53 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:10:53 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Bill,

Please tell me why half price of a number that is unkown matters so  
much. I just see no logic in this at all. The people that see my  
listing have no idea what my home is really worth. As far as they are  
concerned my home is worth between zero and a million dollars.  The  
phone should ring based on a quality description and what seems to be  
a good deal.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:

> Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals,
>
> I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a  
> host whose firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of  
> what they believe they can sell them for.
>
> In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers,  
> somebody in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try  
> it on a home they had had in their inventory for too long.  They  
> followed the book exactly.  It sold in 5 days for more than they had  
> ever been offered in all the time they held it.
>
> And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other  
> homes in their inventory.
>
> Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the  
> 5-Day Method.  They sell to the top bidder every time.  Some of  
> their homes are sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a  
> different home.
>
> When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only  
> professionals using the 5-Day Method in their area.  Now, he says  
> all of his competitors are using the 5-Day Method as well, and he  
> was surprised to learn that it was not being used by all  
> professionals, all over the country.  He can't imagine his firm will  
> ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over time, the  
> 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all professional  
> home sellers.
>
> As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals.  Originally  
> I developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of  
> their current value.  It soon became obvious that FSBOs were  
> incapable of determining the actual current value of their homes,  
> and they were pricing at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest  
> dreams and getting no responses as a result.
>
> If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which  
> is why I changed to this formulation.  Since FSBOs aim too high, the  
> starting price is usually more than 50% of current value, but still  
> low enough to attract a sufficient number of initial responses and  
> real buyers.
>
> It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest  
> possible price.  Only if you price too high do you fail to get a  
> sufficient number of real buyers, and you can tell because you get  
> an insufficient number of initial responses.
>
> I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they  
> play the method by the book.  I believe the professionals on this  
> list do the FSBOs a disservice when they suggest techniques  
> appropriate for professionals that are known to not work for FSBOs.
>
> I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can  
> get more for their homes than any professional can get for them,  
> provided only that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to  
> the high bidder.
>
> Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this  
> Forum who spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the  
> same questions over and over.  The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely  
> valuable to many members who never post to the list, and I often get  
> back-channel compliments for all the work done by permanent Forum  
> members.  I should mention it more often.
>
> Thanks to all of you,
>
> Bill Effros
> Author
>
>
>
> rosemarie-fred wrote:
>>
>> Tim -
>> If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers.
>> It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the  
>> 5-day sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are  
>> not following the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I  
>> have been following this have done this: They say that the system  
>> doesn't work because they tried it except... (Insert your own  
>> exception). You seem to be using common sense, which this system  
>> does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could advertise for  
>> less than half the price and still sell at a price you can live  
>> with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless.  Perhaps it's the  
>> competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls  
>> in love with the house, they will often bid way more than they  
>> expected to. It happens!
>> Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response  
>> to Tim. It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank  
>> you.
>> Rosemarie
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Tim Dever
>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>
>>
>> Suzie,
>> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a  
>> handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at  
>> realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the  
>> buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating  
>> than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will  
>> sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I  
>> will write a book and start a forum.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more tha 
>>> n a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd 
>>>  ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and effor 
>>> ts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I a 
>>> m going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for  
>>> me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor an 
>>> d the two things you must do is get people to see it and adverti 
>>> se on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! Th 
>>> ey always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or  
>>> olive garden as they always get that?
>>>
>>> Susie
>>>
>>>
>>> From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>>>  [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>>
>>>
>>> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.   
>>> I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still  
>>> contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls  
>>> because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because  
>>> they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the  
>>> town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The  
>>> phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that  
>>> simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest  
>>> spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think  
>>> I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus  
>>> directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area  
>>> know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there  
>>> if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested  
>>> in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Janetislight at aol.com
>>>
>>> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>>
>>>
>>> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm  
>>> at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from  
>>> newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the  
>>> rest of today's calls.
>>>
>>>
>>> Janet
>>>
>>>
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Jun 26 17:21:41 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:21:41 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <d48.5455e979.377695e5@aol.com>

I'm constantly being asked if the property is a foreclosure or  trashed.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 4:14:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tdever at monkeysarcades.com writes:

Bill,


Please tell me why half price of a number that is unkown matters so much.  
I just see no logic in this at all. The people that see my listing have no  
idea what my home is really worth. As far as they are concerned my home is  
worth between zero and a million dollars.  The phone should ring based on  a 
quality description and what seems to be a good deal.

Sent from my  iPhone

On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Bill Effros <_bill at effros.com_ 
(mailto:bill at effros.com) > wrote:




Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals,

I was on an hour-long  radio interview in Boston last week with a host 
whose firm buys thousands of  homes each year at roughly 65% of what they 
believe they can sell them  for.

In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their  numbers, 
somebody in the office picked up my book and suggested that they  try it on a home 
they had had in their inventory for too long.  They  followed the book 
exactly.  It sold in 5 days for more than they had  ever been offered in all the 
time they held it.

And, of course, they  wound up with a list of active buyers for other homes 
in their  inventory.

Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory  using the 5-Day 
Method.  They sell to the top bidder every time.   Some of their homes are 
sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a  different home.

When they started doing this in 2006, they were the  only professionals 
using the 5-Day Method in their area.  Now, he says  all of his competitors are 
using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was  surprised to learn that it was 
not being used by all professionals, all over  the country.  He can't 
imagine his firm will ever go back to the old  method, and he believes that, over 
time, the 5-Day Method will become the  method of choice for all 
professional home sellers.

As you know, I  didn't write the book for professionals.  Originally I 
developed a  complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their current  
value.  It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of determining  the 
actual current value of their homes, and they were pricing at 2/3 of  what 
they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no responses as a  result.

If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night  -- which is 
why I changed to this formulation.  Since FSBOs aim too  high, the starting 
price is usually more than 50% of current value, but  still low enough to 
attract a sufficient number of initial responses and  real buyers.

It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the  highest possible 
price.  Only if you price too high do you fail to get  a sufficient number 
of real buyers, and you can tell because you get an  insufficient number of 
initial responses.

I believe FSBOs will get  the highest price for their homes if they play 
the method by the book.   I believe the professionals on this list do the 
FSBOs a disservice when they  suggest techniques appropriate for professionals 
that are known to not work  for FSBOs.

I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes  themselves can get 
more for their homes than any professional can get for  them, provided only 
that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to  the high bidder.

Thanks to you both, and to all of the other  professionals on this Forum 
who spend so much time maintaining order, and  answering the same questions 
over and over.  The 5-Day Forum has proved  extremely valuable to many members 
who never post to the list, and I often  get back-channel compliments for 
all the work done by permanent Forum  members.  I should mention it more 
often.

Thanks to all of  you,

Bill Effros
Author



rosemarie-fred wrote:   
Tim -
If this works, I hope you will let us all  know, with numbers.
It seems as if you have developed a chip on  you shoulder about the 5-day 
sale, which is your business, but it also  seems as if you are not following 
the system. Lots of people over the  couple of years I have been following 
this have done this: They say  that the system doesn't work because they 
tried it except... (Insert  your own exception). You seem to be using common 
sense, which this system  does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could 
advertise for less than  half the price and still sell at a price you can live 
with. But it works  for many of us, nonetheless.  Perhaps it's the 
competition of bidding  against other buyers, but once someone falls in love with the 
house, they  will often bid way more than they expected to. It happens!
Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you  put into your response to Tim. 
It's people like you that make this forum  valuable. Thank you.
Rosemarie

-----  Original Message ----- 
From:  _Tim  Dever_ (mailto:tdever at monkeysarcades.com)  
To:  _How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)  
Sent:  Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....



Suzie,
I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a  
handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors  offices 
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think  cash is king 
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong  2.5 percent is 
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and  realtors will push my 
home. If this works I will write a book and start  a forum.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) >  wrote:




 
If I were  you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff 
in  the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for  
real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you  look 
into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up  if this 
program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of  weeks. I used to be a 
realtor and the two things you must do is get  people to see it and 
advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor  open houses with food! They always 
go for food and get creative with  food. Not subway or olive garden as they 
always get that?   
Susie 
 
 
From:  
5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=_gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
[_mailto:5-dayforum-bounces_ (mailto:5-dayforum-bounces) 
+susies07=_gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) ]  On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009  2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in  5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so  far....

 
I  have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from  craigslist.  I do 
not see any potential in this program  whatsoever.  I still contend that 
price has nothing to do with  the number of calls because no one has any 
knowledge of the value of  my home because they do not have an address. They only 
have the  knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
 here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is  massive.  Its 
that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales  have calls and interest spread way 
too thin.  I had high  hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now 
list on the  MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers  agent. 
 I will let all realtors in the area know a cash  bonus paid directly to 
them of a few thousand is there if  they line up a buyer.  This way I will 
have them all  interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to 
the  punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
-----  Original Message ----- 
 
From:  _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)   
 
To:  _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
 
Sent:  Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
 
Subject:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 

 
I  received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So,  I'm at 
6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs  and two from newspaper ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight  to include the rest of today's calls.
 

 
Janet
 

 
  
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From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com  Fri Jun 26 17:35:40 2009
From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:35:40 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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The assessed value may have no relevance whasoever to the actual value of the house - value defined here as what someone will pay for it.  The assessed value is simply a mechanism for collecting taxes - they are sometimes priced way too high, sometimes right on, sometimes really low. The best way to know what to ask for the house is to look at similar houses in your area that have sold in the last few months. You can get that information from the tax assessor.
As far as this system is concerned, I think the price you advertise has to be the price that will attract people to your house. That's all. Bill has determined (after more research than any of us have done) that the magic number is half the market value. So that's why we use that - it's just to get traffic to your house.
Good luck
Rosemarie

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Janetislight at aol.com 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 2:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....


  I priced the home at half the tax assessed value.  I guess I need to have a fight with the assessor.

  Janet

  In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:26:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bill at effros.com writes:
    Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals,

    I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host whose firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they believe they can sell them for.

    In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, somebody in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a home they had had in their inventory for too long.  They followed the book exactly.  It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in all the time they held it.

    And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other homes in their inventory.

    Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the 5-Day Method.  They sell to the top bidder every time.  Some of their homes are sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home.

    When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals using the 5-Day Method in their area.  Now, he says all of his competitors are using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it was not being used by all professionals, all over the country.  He can't imagine his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all professional home sellers.

    As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals.  Originally I developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their current value.  It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were pricing at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no responses as a result.

    If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is why I changed to this formulation.  Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting price is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to attract a sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers.

    It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest possible price.  Only if you price too high do you fail to get a sufficient number of real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of initial responses.

    I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play the method by the book.  I believe the professionals on this list do the FSBOs a disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals that are known to not work for FSBOs.

    I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can get more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided only that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder.

    Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum who spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions over and over.  The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members who never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for all the work done by permanent Forum members.  I should mention it more often.

    Thanks to all of you,

    Bill Effros
    Author

     

    rosemarie-fred wrote: 
      Tim -
      If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers.
      It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using common sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless.  Perhaps it's the competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It happens!
      Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim. It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you.
      Rosemarie
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Tim Dever 
        To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days 
        Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM
        Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....



        Suzie,
        I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
        Sent from my iPhone

        On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:


          If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

          Susie


          From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
          Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
          To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
          Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....


          I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 


          Tim

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Janetislight at aol.com 

            To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

            Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

            Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....


            I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.


            Janet




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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Fri Jun 26 17:37:18 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:37:18 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Naji,

At 279k we had been getting 2 or 3 showings per week. Just no deal or  
offer. I am listing at 269k now with 4 percent comm. I know the buyer  
sends a handful of homes they want to see but often the realtor says I  
really would like to show you this other one I think you will like it.  
Every realtor I have dealt with has done this.  It's has often been a  
realtor friends home or somone that may have offered a direct cash  
bonus to. Maybe they just think it might just be the one. If I were in  
the biz I know I would try to sell something that pays almost a double  
comm. I will give it a shot and see what happens. All these agents are  
sending letters and emails to get the listing. I am going to call them  
and tell them a big comm is on the line if they line up a buyer. I do  
not think berg properties is a limited listing service. I will have to  
check. If they are would the 4 percent kind of tip the scales on that  
issue?

Regards Tim

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2009, at 9:25 AM, "Naji" <nkhouri at cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> It?s not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does 
>  not support the market price regardless of how much you offer in co 
> mmissions or bonuses or other incentives?
>
>
>
> Remember, Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then 
>  contact a realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when yo 
> u go with a flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Se 
> rvice listing in MLS and many Realtors will not even show anything t 
> hat?s not listed as an Exclusive Right To Sell.
>
>
>
> If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless  
> of what method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home  
> when it was listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and  
> still no results. I would suggest you run a complete analysis on the  
> area that you?re in, including recent sales, days on market, current 
>  foreclosures, bank owned properties, online analysis, and historica 
> l analysis to get an idea of what taking place in your neighborhood  
> right now, then price the home accordingly. If you don?t get any sho 
> wings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least 3%-5% and ree 
> valuate in 3 weeks.
>
>
>
> Wish you all the best,
>
>
>
> -Naji
>
>
>
> From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>  [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
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>
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> Tim,
>
> What will you do if it doesn't work?
>
> Bill Effros
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>
> Tim Dever wrote:
>
>
> Suzie,
>
> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a  
> handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at  
> realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the  
> buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating  
> than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will  
> sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will  
> write a book and start a forum.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than  
>> a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) w 
>> eb sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I  
>> would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going  
>> to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I  
>> try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two th 
>> ings you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the inte 
>> rnet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for 
>>  food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as th 
>> ey always get that?
>>
>> Susie
>>
>>
>>
>> From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>>  [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>
>>
>>
>> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.   
>> I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still  
>> contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls  
>> because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because  
>> they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the  
>> town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone  
>> is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.   
>> Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too  
>> thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to  
>> now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the  
>> buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash  
>> bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line  
>> up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my  
>> home and beating their competitor to the punch.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Janetislight at aol.com
>>
>> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
>>
>> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>
>>
>>
>> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm  
>> at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from  
>> newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the  
>> rest of today's calls.
>>
>>
>>
>> Janet
>>
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Jun 26 17:59:10 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:59:10 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <d26.34397c62.37769eae@aol.com>

18/25... still coming in
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:58:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tomwilson64 at yahoo.com writes:

 
Absolutely  wait til this evening.  The system is to wait til Friday night. 
 It  took me til Friday night about 8 pm to get 27 legitimate calls so you 
should  wait.  If you don?t get there though, make sure you call each one 
and let  them know about cancelling should you decide to cancel. 
 
 
From:  
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com  
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009  1:17 PM
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 
I'm  going to wait until this evening to decide.  Right now I have 15.   
Three real buyers that know what the house is worth and understand the price  
is just to start bidders bidding.  I'll let you know if the number  climbs.
 

 
Janet
 

 

 
 
In a  message dated 6/26/2009 1:13:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tomwilson64 at yahoo.com writes:

 
I  agree with Bill.  The system assumes you will get calls on the weekend  
such that the 25 should represent what will turn into 50.    
 
 
From:  
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com  
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:03  PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

Janet,

You will get killed  if you proceed.  Your home is not currently worth 
anything near what  you hope to get for it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth,  don't use the 5-Day Method.  
Do something else.  Use Tim's  method.

If that succeeds, let us know.

Bill  Effros
Author





_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)  wrote:   
 
I  don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12  
contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the  signs 
down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and  see how it goes. 
 Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done  5-day sales here said that 
she received most of her telephone calls during  the weekend.   What to do, 
what to do?
 

 
Janet
 

 

 
 
In  a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_nkhouri at cfl.rr.com_ (mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com)   writes:

 
It?s  not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not  
support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions  or 
bonuses or other incentives? 
Remember,  Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then 
contact a  realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a 
flat  fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS 
 and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an  
Exclusive Right To Sell. 
If  you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of 
what  method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was  
listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I  
would suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in,  
including recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned  
properties, online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of  what taking 
place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home  accordingly. If 
you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the  price by at least 
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks. 
Wish  you all the best, 
-Naji 
 
  
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Tim,

What will you do if  it doesn't work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote:   
 

Suzie,
 
I am using berg properties $299  flat fee gets me realtor.com and a 
handfull of others. I am then going to  email and drop flyers at realtors offices 
indicating a double commision  for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king 
and an extra $3000 is more  motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is 
standard here now 4 or 5  will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my 
home. If this works I will  write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my  iPhone
 

On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03  AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) >  wrote:

 
 
If I were  you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff 
in  the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for  
real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you  look 
into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up  if this 
program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks.  I used to be a 
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to  see it and 
advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses  with food! They always 
go for food and get creative with food. Not  subway or olive garden as they 
always get that?  
Susie 
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009  2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 
I  have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from  craigslist.  I do 
not see any potential in this program  whatsoever.  I still contend that 
price has nothing to do with the  number of calls because no one has any 
knowledge of the value of my home  because they do not have an address. They only 
have the knowledge  of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
here.   The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its  
that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and  interest spread way 
too thin.  I had high hopes for this  program.  I think I am going to now 
list on the MLS myself and  offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  
I will let  all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to  
them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.   This way I will 
have them all interested in selling my home and beating  their competitor to 
the punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
-----  Original Message ----- 
 
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I  received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm  at 
6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and  two from newspaper ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to  include the rest of today's calls.
 

 
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From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com  Fri Jun 26 19:00:22 2009
From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:00:22 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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References: <bfd.5bb7818a.377508c1@aol.com>	<005001c9f5c0$6edc0a10$6701a8c0@PC229962744102>	<002101c9f656$1f6bf940$5e43ebc0$@com><3266EEF7-375B-41B6-ACBF-1FF01BBC19C2@monkeysarcades.com><4A44CEBA.5030103@effros.com><11E1ABF785034F41956E1B4D4807D91A@NSKHome>
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Tim,

 

You're better off with the standard 3% commission plus a 1% bonus in that
case since the bonus part does not have to be shared with the broker. If you
are getting 2-3 showings per week and no offers are coming in that means the
house is overpriced for the condition it's in.

 

I personally would stick to dropping the price by 3%-5% every 3-5 weeks if
no offers come to fruition.

 

Best of luck,

 

-Naji

 

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From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:37 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Naji,

 

At 279k we had been getting 2 or 3 showings per week. Just no deal or offer.
I am listing at 269k now with 4 percent comm. I know the buyer sends a
handful of homes they want to see but often the realtor says I really would
like to show you this other one I think you will like it. Every realtor I
have dealt with has done this.  It's has often been a realtor friends home
or somone that may have offered a direct cash bonus to. Maybe they just
think it might just be the one. If I were in the biz I know I would try to
sell something that pays almost a double comm. I will give it a shot and see
what happens. All these agents are sending letters and emails to get the
listing. I am going to call them and tell them a big comm is on the line if
they line up a buyer. I do not think berg properties is a limited listing
service. I will have to check. If they are would the 4 percent kind of tip
the scales on that issue?

 

Regards Tim

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 9:25 AM, "Naji" <nkhouri at cfl.rr.com> wrote:

It's not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not
support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or
bonuses or other incentives.

 

Remember, Realtors don't find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact
a realtor to use his or her services. Additionally, when you go with a flat
fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and
many Realtors will not even show anything that's not listed as an Exclusive
Right To Sell.

 

If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what
method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed
with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would
suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you're in, including
recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties,
online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place
in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you
don't get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.

 

Wish you all the best,

 

-Naji

 


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From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
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Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote: 


Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull
of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my
home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" < <mailto:susies07 at gmail.com>
susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it's is a little more than a puff in
the wind. IF you don't have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real
estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into
Cen 21's click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program
doesn't work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go
for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they
always get that. 

Susie

 

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


 

Tim

----- Original Message ----- 

From:  <mailto:Janetislight at aol.com> Janetislight at aol.com 

To:  <mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Jun 26 19:23:38 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:23:38 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <d12.224533c3.3776b27a@aol.com>

still 18/25... but what I feel are 4 real buyers.  We have been  getting 
2-4 later calls at night so that will put me over 20.  Well,  Bill.... lets 
see if I'm dead on Monday.  
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:05:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bill at effros.com writes:

Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.  Your home  is not currently worth 
anything near what you hope to get for it.

If  you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day Method.  
 Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that succeeds, let us  know.

Bill Effros
Author





_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)  wrote:  
I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12  
contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the  signs 
down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and  see how it goes.  
Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done  5-day sales here said that 
she received most of her telephone calls during  the weekend.   What to do, 
what to do?
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_nkhouri at cfl.rr.com_ (mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com)  writes:

 
It?s not going to  work if you have a certain price in mind that does not 
support the market  price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or 
bonuses or other  incentives? 
Remember,  Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then 
contact a  realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a 
flat  fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS 
 and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an  
Exclusive Right To Sell. 
If you really  want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of 
what method is  used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was 
listed with  Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I 
would  suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, 
including  recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned 
properties,  online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking  
place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If  
you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at  least 
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks. 
Wish you all the  best, 
-Naji 
 
  

____________________________________
 
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Sent: Friday, June  26, 2009 9:36 AM
To:  How To Sell Your Home in  5-Days
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't  work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote:   
 

Suzie,
 
I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me  realtor.com and a 
handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop  flyers at realtors offices 
indicating a double commision for lineing up  the buyer. I think cash is king 
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than  food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is 
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the  pot and realtors will push my 
home. If this works I will write a book and  start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone
 

On Jun 26, 2009,  at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) >  wrote:

 
 
If I were  you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff 
in  the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for  
real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you  look 
into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up  if this 
program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks.  I used to be a 
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to  see it and 
advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses  with food! They always 
go for food and get creative with food. Not  subway or olive garden as they 
always get that?   
Susie 
 
 
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Sent: Thursday,  June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How  To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's  going so far....

 
I have had 4 emails that  have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do 
not see any  potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price 
 has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any  
knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an  address. They only 
have the knowledge of the town and homes here  range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
here.  The phone is not ringing  because the inventory is massive.  Its 
that simple.   Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way 
too  thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going  to now 
list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to  the buyers agent.  
I will let all realtors in the area  know a cash bonus paid directly to 
them of a few thousand is there  if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have 
them all  interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the 
 punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
----- Original Message  ----- 
 
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I received three calls  yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 
6/25.   Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from  newspaper ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to include the  rest of today's calls.
 

 
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Jun 26 20:11:43 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:11:43 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <c67.5783e3e7.3776bdbf@aol.com>

20 and counting.....
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:13:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tomwilson64 at yahoo.com writes:

 
I  agree with Bill.  The system assumes you will get calls on the weekend  
such that the 25 should represent what will turn into 50.    
 
 
From:  
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:03  PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.   Your home is not currently worth 
anything near what you hope to get for  it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day  Method.  
Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that  succeeds, let us know.

Bill Effros
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_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)  wrote:   
 
I don't know how my  thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 
contacts and two who I feel  are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the signs 
down.  I  think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes.  
 Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said that  
she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend.   What  to do, 
what to do?
 

 
Janet
 

 

 
 
In a message dated  6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_nkhouri at cfl.rr.com_ (mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com)   writes:

 
It?s  not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not 
support  the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or 
bonuses  or other incentives? 
Remember,  Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then 
contact a realtor  to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a 
flat fee  listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS 
and many  Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an 
Exclusive Right  To Sell. 
If  you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of 
what  method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was 
listed  with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I 
would  suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, 
including  recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned 
properties,  online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking 
place  in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you 
 don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least  
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks. 
Wish  you all the best, 
-Naji 
 
  
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Subject: [Norton  AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so  far....
Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill  Effros
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Tim Dever wrote:  
 

Suzie,
 
I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com  and a 
handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at  realtors offices 
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I  think cash is king 
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I  wrong 2.5 percent is 
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and  realtors will push my 
home. If this works I will write a book and start a  forum.
Sent from my iPhone
 

On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) >  wrote:

 
 
If I were  you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff 
in the  wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real 
 estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look  
into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this  
program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to  be a 
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and  
advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They  always 
go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden  as they 
always get that?  
Susie 
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11  PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 
I have had 4  emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do 
not  see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that  
price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any  knowle
dge of the value of my home because they do not have an  address. They only 
have the knowledge of the town and homes here  range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
here.  The phone is not ringing  because the inventory is massive.  Its 
that simple.   Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way 
too  thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to  now 
list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to  the buyers agent.  
I will let all realtors in the area know  a cash bonus paid directly to 
them of a few thousand is there if  they line up a buyer.  This way I will have 
them all interested  in selling my home and beating their competitor to the 
 punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
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Subject: [5-DayForum]  How it's going so far....
 

 
I received  three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at  
6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two  from newspaper ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to include  the rest of today's calls.
 

 
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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Fri Jun 26 20:51:14 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:51:14 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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I have been told state law has to be paid to broker I wanted to offer  
a cash bonus of 3000 paid directly to the buyer agent but was told no  
can do

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2009, at 6:00 PM, "Naji" <nkhouri at cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> Tim,
>
>
>
> You?re better off with the standard 3% commission plus a 1% bonus in 
>  that case since the bonus part does not have to be shared with the  
> broker. If you are getting 2-3 showings per week and no offers are c 
> oming in that means the house is overpriced for the condition it?s i 
> n.
>
>
>
> I personally would stick to dropping the price by 3%-5% every 3-5  
> weeks if no offers come to fruition.
>
>
>
> Best of luck,
>
>
>
> -Naji
>
>
>
> From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>  [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:37 PM
> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>
>
>
> Naji,
>
>
>
> At 279k we had been getting 2 or 3 showings per week. Just no deal  
> or offer. I am listing at 269k now with 4 percent comm. I know the  
> buyer sends a handful of homes they want to see but often the  
> realtor says I really would like to show you this other one I think  
> you will like it. Every realtor I have dealt with has done this.   
> It's has often been a realtor friends home or somone that may have  
> offered a direct cash bonus to. Maybe they just think it might just  
> be the one. If I were in the biz I know I would try to sell  
> something that pays almost a double comm. I will give it a shot and  
> see what happens. All these agents are sending letters and emails to  
> get the listing. I am going to call them and tell them a big comm is  
> on the line if they line up a buyer. I do not think berg properties  
> is a limited listing service. I will have to check. If they are  
> would the 4 percent kind of tip the scales on that issue?
>
>
>
> Regards Tim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2009, at 9:25 AM, "Naji" <nkhouri at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> It?s not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that do 
>> es not support the market price regardless of how much you offer i 
>> n commissions or bonuses or other incentives?
>>
>>
>>
>> Remember, Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and th 
>> en contact a realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, whe 
>> n you go with a flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limi 
>> ted Service listing in MLS and many Realtors will not even show an 
>> ything that?s not listed as an Exclusive Right To Sell.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right  
>> regardless of what method is used. I see you started pretty high on  
>> the home when it was listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to  
>> 279K and still no results. I would suggest you run a complete  
>> analysis on the area that you?re in, including recent sales, days  
>> on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties, online ana 
>> lysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place 
>>  in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly.  
>> If you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price 
>>  by at least 3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wish you all the best,
>>
>>
>>
>> -Naji
>>
>>
>>
>> From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>>  [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
>> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim,
>>
>> What will you do if it doesn't work?
>>
>> Bill Effros
>> Author
>>
>> Tim Dever wrote:
>>
>>
>> Suzie,
>>
>> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a  
>> handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at  
>> realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the  
>> buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating  
>> than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will  
>> sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I  
>> will write a book and start a forum.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more tha 
>>> n a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd 
>>>  ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and effor 
>>> ts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I a 
>>> m going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for  
>>> me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor an 
>>> d the two things you must do is get people to see it and adverti 
>>> se on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! Th 
>>> ey always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or  
>>> olive garden as they always get that?
>>>
>>> Susie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>>>  [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.   
>>> I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still  
>>> contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls  
>>> because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because  
>>> they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the  
>>> town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The  
>>> phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that  
>>> simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest  
>>> spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think  
>>> I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus  
>>> directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area  
>>> know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there  
>>> if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested  
>>> in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Janetislight at aol.com
>>>
>>> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm  
>>> at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from  
>>> newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the  
>>> rest of today's calls.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Janet
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com  Fri Jun 26 21:03:27 2009
From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:03:27 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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By state law (regarding real estate agents) all payments regarding real
estate transactions are paid to the broker and then the broker pays the
agent. If part of the payment is a bonus then that bonus is "usually" not
split with the broker, however, it all depends on the contractual agreement
between the broker and his/her agent.

Some brokers will only split commissions and give the entire bonus to their
agent while others split anything and everything.

-Naji

I

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From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:51 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have been told state law has to be paid to broker I wanted to offer a cash
bonus of 3000 paid directly to the buyer agent but was told no can do

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 6:00 PM, "Naji" <nkhouri at cfl.rr.com> wrote:

Tim,

 

You're better off with the standard 3% commission plus a 1% bonus in that
case since the bonus part does not have to be shared with the broker. If you
are getting 2-3 showings per week and no offers are coming in that means the
house is overpriced for the condition it's in.

 

I personally would stick to dropping the price by 3%-5% every 3-5 weeks if
no offers come to fruition.

 

Best of luck,

 

-Naji

 


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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:37 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Naji,

 

At 279k we had been getting 2 or 3 showings per week. Just no deal or offer.
I am listing at 269k now with 4 percent comm. I know the buyer sends a
handful of homes they want to see but often the realtor says I really would
like to show you this other one I think you will like it. Every realtor I
have dealt with has done this.  It's has often been a realtor friends home
or somone that may have offered a direct cash bonus to. Maybe they just
think it might just be the one. If I were in the biz I know I would try to
sell something that pays almost a double comm. I will give it a shot and see
what happens. All these agents are sending letters and emails to get the
listing. I am going to call them and tell them a big comm is on the line if
they line up a buyer. I do not think berg properties is a limited listing
service. I will have to check. If they are would the 4 percent kind of tip
the scales on that issue?

 

Regards Tim

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 9:25 AM, "Naji" < <mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com>
nkhouri at cfl.rr.com> wrote:

It's not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not
support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or
bonuses or other incentives.

 

Remember, Realtors don't find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact
a realtor to use his or her services. Additionally, when you go with a flat
fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and
many Realtors will not even show anything that's not listed as an Exclusive
Right To Sell.

 

If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what
method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed
with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would
suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you're in, including
recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties,
online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place
in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you
don't get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.

 

Wish you all the best,

 

-Naji

 


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Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote: 


Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull
of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my
home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" < <mailto:susies07 at gmail.com>
<mailto:susies07 at gmail.com> susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it's is a little more than a puff in
the wind. IF you don't have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real
estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into
Cen 21's click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program
doesn't work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go
for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they
always get that. 

Susie

 

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


 

Tim

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Fri Jun 26 21:50:01 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:50:01 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <cfd.59f66b54.3776d4c9@aol.com>

FYI, almost EVERY response came from the 20 signs we put up around Des  
Moines.  Only three were from newspaper ads.  Maybe this is a new  method to 
introduce to your 5-day Sale philosophy.  Oh no!  Does that  mean you might 
have to write another book?  
 
Janet
 
PS:  This idea was given to us by friends who have done this in other  
towns, but never tried here.  Boy, it DOES work.
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 6:25:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Janetislight at aol.com writes:

still 18/25... but what I feel are 4 real buyers.  We have been  getting 
2-4 later calls at night so that will put me over 20.  Well,  Bill.... lets 
see if I'm dead on Monday.  
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:05:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bill at effros.com writes:

Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.  Your home  is not currently worth 
anything near what you hope to get for it.

If  you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day Method.  
 Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that succeeds, let us  know.

Bill Effros
Author





_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)  wrote:  
I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have  12 
contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go  tear the signs 
down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's  advice and see how it goes.  
Am I wrong?  Plus, another person  who has done 5-day sales here said that 
she received most of her telephone  calls during the weekend.   What to do, 
what to do?
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_nkhouri at cfl.rr.com_ (mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com)  writes:

 
It?s not going  to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not 
support the  market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or 
bonuses  or other incentives? 
Remember,  Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then 
contact a  realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a  
flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in  
MLS and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as  an 
Exclusive Right To Sell. 
If you really  want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of 
what method is  used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was 
listed with  Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I 
would  suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in,  
including recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned  
properties, online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of  what taking 
place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home  accordingly. If 
you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop  the price by at least 
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3  weeks. 
Wish you all  the best, 
-Naji 
 
  
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From: 
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Sent: Friday,  June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
To: How  To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't  work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote:   
 

Suzie,
 
I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me  realtor.com and a 
handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop  flyers at realtors offices 
indicating a double commision for lineing up  the buyer. I think cash is king 
and an extra $3000 is more motivating  than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is 
standard here now 4 or 5 will  sweeten the pot and realtors will push my 
home. If this works I will  write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my  iPhone
 

On Jun 26,  2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) >  wrote:

 
 
If I were  you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff 
in  the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for  
real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you  look 
into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up  if this 
program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of  weeks. I used to be a 
realtor and the two things you must do is get  people to see it and 
advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor  open houses with food! They always 
go for food and get creative with  food. Not subway or olive garden as they 
always get that?   
Susie 
 
 
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Sent: Thursday,  June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How  To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How  it's going so  far....

 
I have had 4 emails that  have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do 
not see any  potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price 
 has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any  
knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an  address. They only 
have the knowledge of the town and homes here  range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
here.  The phone is not ringing  because the inventory is massive.  Its 
that simple.   Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way  
too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am  going to now 
list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to  the buyers agent.  
I will let all realtors in the area  know a cash bonus paid directly to 
them of a few thousand is  there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have 
them  all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the 
 punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
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To:  _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
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Sent:  Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07  PM
 
Subject:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so  far....
 

 
I received three calls  yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 
6/25.   Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from  newspaper ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to include the  rest of today's  calls.
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
  
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:02:27 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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The sense I have is you might be focusing too much on these ?four serious? buyers.  I can tell you from my experience that whatever perceptions I had on Friday, I soon learned I?m not as perceptive as I thought.  Just play it straight.  It will be too easy to treat people as serious or not serious.  You need to be a little more removed from trying to measure interest too much.  I had some who I thought weren?t so serious who were there at the end of the bidding.  Also some who sounded like great candidates dropped out a round or two into the round robin.  In the end, my buyer came from a mom who was looking for a house for her son and at 3 pm on Sunday she saw my ad and called.  She came out by 4 pm with her son and by 4:45 she was a bidder!

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com
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FYI, almost EVERY response came from the 20 signs we put up around Des Moines.  Only three were from newspaper ads.  Maybe this is a new method to introduce to your 5-day Sale philosophy.  Oh no!  Does that mean you might have to write another book?  Image removed by sender.

 

Janet

 

PS:  This idea was given to us by friends who have done this in other towns, but never tried here.  Boy, it DOES work.

 

In a message dated 6/26/2009 6:25:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Janetislight at aol.com writes:

still 18/25... but what I feel are 4 real buyers.  We have been getting 2-4 later calls at night so that will put me over 20.  Well, Bill.... lets see if I'm dead on Monday.  Image removed by sender.

 

In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:05:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bill at effros.com writes:

Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.  Your home is not currently worth anything near what you hope to get for it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day Method.  Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that succeeds, let us know.

Bill Effros
Author





Janetislight at aol.com wrote: 

I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the signs down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes.  Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said that she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend.   What to do, what to do?

 

Janet

 

 

In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:

It?s not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or bonuses or other incentives?

 

Remember, Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact a realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an Exclusive Right To Sell.

 

If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, including recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties, online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least 3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.

 

Wish you all the best,

 

-Naji

 

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Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill Effros
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Tim Dever wrote: 


Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

Susie

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 

 

Tim

----- Original Message ----- 

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

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I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Janetislight at aol.com 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....


  FYI, almost EVERY response came from the 20 signs we put up around Des Moines.  Only three were from newspaper ads.  Maybe this is a new method to introduce to your 5-day Sale philosophy.  Oh no!  Does that mean you might have to write another book?  

  Janet

  PS:  This idea was given to us by friends who have done this in other towns, but never tried here.  Boy, it DOES work.

  In a message dated 6/26/2009 6:25:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Janetislight at aol.com writes:
    still 18/25... but what I feel are 4 real buyers.  We have been getting 2-4 later calls at night so that will put me over 20.  Well, Bill.... lets see if I'm dead on Monday.  

    In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:05:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bill at effros.com writes:
      Janet,

      You will get killed if you proceed.  Your home is not currently worth anything near what you hope to get for it.

      If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day Method.  Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

      If that succeeds, let us know.

      Bill Effros
      Author





      Janetislight at aol.com wrote: 
        I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the signs down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes.  Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said that she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend.   What to do, what to do?

        Janet


        In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:
          It?s not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or bonuses or other incentives?

           

          Remember, Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact a realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an Exclusive Right To Sell.

           

          If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, including recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties, online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least 3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.

           

          Wish you all the best,

           

          -Naji

           


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          Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
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          Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

           

          Tim,

          What will you do if it doesn't work?

          Bill Effros
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          Tim Dever wrote: 


          Suzie,

          I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
          Sent from my iPhone


          On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

            If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

            Susie

             

            From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
            Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
            To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
            Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

             

            I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 

             

            Tim

              ----- Original Message ----- 

              From: Janetislight at aol.com 

              To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

              Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

              Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

               

              I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

               

              Janet

               

               


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From roxanneinvestments at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 01:46:40 2009
From: roxanneinvestments at gmail.com (Jill Greenberg)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:46:40 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Susie,

Can you tell me more about the Cen 21 click it program.  Is that available
for me as a FSBO or do you have to be working with a Cen 21 agent?

Tony

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Susie <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff
> in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real
> estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into
> Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program
> doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a
> realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
> on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go
> for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they
> always get that?
>
> Susie
>
>
>
> *From:* 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com@
> mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07<5-dayforum-bounces%2Bsusies07>
> =gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Dever
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
> *To:* How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
> *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>
>
>
> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
> see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
> has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
> of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
> the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
> here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
> simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
> thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
> the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
> let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
> few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
> all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the
> punch.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Janetislight at aol.com
>
> *To:* 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
>
> *Subject:* [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>
>
>
> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at
> 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper
> ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.
>
>
>
> Janet
>
>
>
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Bill, were you able to find out what type of advertising method they used to get the word out? Are they only using Craigslist? I am sure that they have built up an extensive list of prospective buyers over the years which they use everytime they do this which helps. Again my concern is not that your system does not work. I truly believe it does and it is the best and fastest way to sell a house at the highest price based on the market when you are selling the home. My only concern is getting the exposure though the proper advertising vehicle. Thanks Ari.
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sat Jun 27 08:43:34 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:43:34 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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I'll tell you here, I didn't get one e-mail from Craig's List.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/27/2009 7:36:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
akmihos at verizon.net writes:

Bill,  were you able to find out what type of advertising method they used 
to get the  word out? Are they only using Craigslist? I am sure that they 
have built up an  extensive list of prospective buyers over the years which 
they use everytime  they do this which helps. Again my concern is not that 
your system does not  work. I truly believe it does and it is the best and 
fastest way to sell a  house at the highest price based on the market when you 
are selling the home.  My only concern is getting the exposure though the 
proper advertising vehicle.  Thanks Ari.
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Sat Jun 27 19:03:34 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:03:34 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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We had some GREAT bids today and people coming back watching to see if  
someone has gone higher.  They aren't even waiting for the  Round-Robin.  So, 
no...... I'm not dead yet.... BILL.  
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:13:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tomwilson64 at yahoo.com writes:

 
I  agree with Bill.  The system assumes you will get calls on the weekend  
such that the 25 should represent what will turn into 50.    
 
 
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:03  PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.   Your home is not currently worth 
anything near what you hope to get for  it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day  Method.  
Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that  succeeds, let us know.

Bill Effros
Author





_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)  wrote:   
 
I don't know how my  thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 
contacts and two who I feel  are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the signs 
down.  I  think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes.  
 Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said that  
she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend.   What  to do, 
what to do?
 

 
Janet
 

 

 
 
In a message dated  6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_nkhouri at cfl.rr.com_ (mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com)   writes:

 
It?s  not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not 
support  the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or 
bonuses  or other incentives? 
Remember,  Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then 
contact a realtor  to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a 
flat fee  listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS 
and many  Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an 
Exclusive Right  To Sell. 
If  you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of 
what  method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was 
listed  with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I 
would  suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, 
including  recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned 
properties,  online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking 
place  in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you 
 don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least  
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks. 
Wish  you all the best, 
-Naji 
 
  
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Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill  Effros
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Tim Dever wrote:  
 

Suzie,
 
I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com  and a 
handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at  realtors offices 
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I  think cash is king 
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I  wrong 2.5 percent is 
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and  realtors will push my 
home. If this works I will write a book and start a  forum.
Sent from my iPhone
 

On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) >  wrote:

 
 
If I were  you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff 
in the  wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real 
 estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look  
into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this  
program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to  be a 
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and  
advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They  always 
go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden  as they 
always get that?  
Susie 
 
 
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I have had 4  emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do 
not  see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that  
price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any  
knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an  address. They only 
have the knowledge of the town and homes here  range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
here.  The phone is not ringing  because the inventory is massive.  Its 
that simple.   Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way 
too  thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to  now 
list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to  the buyers agent.  
I will let all realtors in the area know  a cash bonus paid directly to 
them of a few thousand is there if  they line up a buyer.  This way I will have 
them all interested  in selling my home and beating their competitor to the 
 punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
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I received  three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at  
6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two  from newspaper ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to include  the rest of today's calls.
 

 
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From susies07 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 22:57:36 2009
From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:57:36 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Hi Tim,

I am confused, you are paying double AND doing the work of a broker and not getting all the exposure that?s available?

Susie

 

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Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

Susie

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 

 

Tim

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I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

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From tdever at monkeysarcades.com  Sat Jun 27 23:19:30 2009
From: tdever at monkeysarcades.com (Tim Dever)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:19:30 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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ill be on realtor.com its the google of the real estate world all the rest combined don't compare to them.  I do not care about the work i just want to get it sold!  A conventional approach in this market can take forever. I do not have forever to sell.  I have letters, emails and phone calls from everyone wanting to have me list with them.  I am going to turn them into my sales team.  I feel a company that list many homes is not interested in selling my home so much.  I am interested in getting only my home sold!  I guess I am selfish but that's the way it is.  I will print the MLS with the $2500 bonus highlighted and hand deliver it and email it to everyone.  The race will be on to sell my home to get the prize.  Makes more sense than paying someone to really do a whole lotta nothing.  That's what has happened so far. I bet its sold in a month! 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Susie 
  To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' 
  Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....


  Hi Tim,

  I am confused, you are paying double AND doing the work of a broker and not getting all the exposure that?s available?

  Susie

   

  From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM
  To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

   


  Suzie,

  I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
  Sent from my iPhone


  On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

    If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

    Susie

     

    From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
    Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
    To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
    Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

     

    I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 

     

    Tim

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Janetislight at aol.com 

      To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

      Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

      Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

       

      I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

       

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From susies07 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 23:25:33 2009
From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:25:33 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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First, I would do the 5 day!

 If you do not want to continue or it doesn't work for some reason.. then it
is Century 21 click it. I found it on line $ 595 I believe with pictures,
mls and 30 some odd sites, a sign (not nearly enough). You will have to do
all the marketing and get the realtors in to see it and pay the 3% or
whatever it is in your area for buyers agents. 

Susie

 

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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Susie,

 

Can you tell me more about the Cen 21 click it program.  Is that available
for me as a FSBO or do you have to be working with a Cen 21 agent?

 

Tony

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Susie <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it's is a little more than a puff in
the wind. IF you don't have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real
estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into
Cen 21's click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program
doesn't work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go
for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they
always get that. 

Susie

 

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


 

Tim

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

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I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

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From susies07 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 23:28:43 2009
From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:28:43 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Ari,
Did you read what you wrote? What do you really believe? If you really want
to sell your house you might want to advertise every way possible to get the
most exposure..... Newspaper, web, Craig's list only reaches a few.... signs
etc.
If you were looking for a job would you only look on Craig's list?
Susie

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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:35 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

Bill, were you able to find out what type of advertising method they used to
get the word out? Are they only using Craigslist? I am sure that they have
built up an extensive list of prospective buyers over the years which they
use everytime they do this which helps. Again my concern is not that your
system does not work. I truly believe it does and it is the best and fastest
way to sell a house at the highest price based on the market when you are
selling the home. My only concern is getting the exposure though the proper
advertising vehicle. Thanks Ari.
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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:33:07 -0400
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I will be interested in knowing your results.

Susies07 at gmail.com

 

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ill be on realtor.com its the google of the real estate world all the rest combined don't compare to them.  I do not care about the work i just want to get it sold!  A conventional approach in this market can take forever. I do not have forever to sell.  I have letters, emails and phone calls from everyone wanting to have me list with them.  I am going to turn them into my sales team.  I feel a company that list many homes is not interested in selling my home so much.  I am interested in getting only my home sold!  I guess I am selfish but that's the way it is.  I will print the MLS with the $2500 bonus highlighted and hand deliver it and email it to everyone.  The race will be on to sell my home to get the prize.  Makes more sense than paying someone to really do a whole lotta nothing.  That's what has happened so far. I bet its sold in a month! 

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To: 'How To Sell Your Home <mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>  in 5-Days' 

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:57 PM

Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Hi Tim,

I am confused, you are paying double AND doing the work of a broker and not getting all the exposure that?s available?

Susie

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 


Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
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On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

Susie

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 

 

Tim

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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From akmihos at verizon.net  Sun Jun 28 00:23:00 2009
From: akmihos at verizon.net (akmihos at verizon.net)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:23:00 +0000
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Susie, that is not what Bill had suggested to me about a couple of weeks ago. He said that Craig's List would be the first place to advertise and may be the only one for a 5-day sale. He said that maybe he would stick an add or two in a couple of the local newspapers or internet but that would probably not change ny chances or price that the house would sell for. This is why I am asking the question again to Bill based on the interview that he had with that company. What type of advertising vehicles did they use other than Craig's List? Remember, you cannot advertise your house on the MLS for half of what is worth because if that is the only price you can get out of it, you are obligating to sell. You do not have to do this with your own add on Craig's List or an internet newspaper add, etc... Am I wrong in thinking this? 
Thanks, Ari. 
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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:28:43 
To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....


Ari,
Did you read what you wrote? What do you really believe? If you really want
to sell your house you might want to advertise every way possible to get the
most exposure..... Newspaper, web, Craig's list only reaches a few.... signs
etc.
If you were looking for a job would you only look on Craig's list?
Susie

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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:35 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

Bill, were you able to find out what type of advertising method they used to
get the word out? Are they only using Craigslist? I am sure that they have
built up an extensive list of prospective buyers over the years which they
use everytime they do this which helps. Again my concern is not that your
system does not work. I truly believe it does and it is the best and fastest
way to sell a house at the highest price based on the market when you are
selling the home. My only concern is getting the exposure though the proper
advertising vehicle. Thanks Ari.
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  Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:33 PM
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  I will be interested in knowing your results.

  Susies07 at gmail.com

   

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  ill be on realtor.com its the google of the real estate world all the rest combined don't compare to them.  I do not care about the work i just want to get it sold!  A conventional approach in this market can take forever. I do not have forever to sell.  I have letters, emails and phone calls from everyone wanting to have me list with them.  I am going to turn them into my sales team.  I feel a company that list many homes is not interested in selling my home so much.  I am interested in getting only my home sold!  I guess I am selfish but that's the way it is.  I will print the MLS with the $2500 bonus highlighted and hand deliver it and email it to everyone.  The race will be on to sell my home to get the prize.  Makes more sense than paying someone to really do a whole lotta nothing.  That's what has happened so far. I bet its sold in a month! 

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Susie 

    To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' 

    Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:57 PM

    Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

     

    Hi Tim,

    I am confused, you are paying double AND doing the work of a broker and not getting all the exposure that?s available?

    Susie

     

    From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
    Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM
    To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
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    Suzie,

    I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
    Sent from my iPhone


    On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

      If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

      Susie

       

      From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
      Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
      To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
      Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

       

      I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 

       

      Tim

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Janetislight at aol.com 

        To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

        Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

        Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

         

        I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

         

        Janet

         

         


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From jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 20:58:55 2009
From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com (James Fleming)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:58:55 -0700
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Dear Ari,

Here is a tip for you and for others who are considering listing your
properties on your local MLS.  There are some simple steps that you can
follow to deal with the issue of list price without compromising the concept
of the 5-Day sale.  

1.  Every MLS requires you to post a list price.  Enter the price that you
feel represents the market value of your house.  

2.  Every MLS also has a section in which you can write a message to the
public and another where you can write a message to members of the MLS
(Realtors).  In these two sections, write a variation of the following, one
that best fits your sale, "Round Robin this Sunday.  House will be sold to
the highest bidder. Bidding will start at $XX,XXX (one-half the list price).
House will be open for inspection Wed through Sun from noon until 5pm.
Contact Ari at 555-5555 for details."

This way, if you have priced your house properly, any real buyer has the
choice of either participating in the auction and taking his chances of
being outbid, or, before the auction, making an offer equal to or greater
than the listed price thus taking the house off the market before the 5-Day
sale.

In my experience...Limiting yourself to just the potential buyers who happen
to see your promotion during the 5 days that it is briefly advertised is
pretty risky.  No matter where you advertise you are going to reach only a
small cross section of active buyers who happen to catch your ads during the
short 5-day window of opportunity.  You will get better results if you
promote your round robin for a minimum of two weeks.  But if you are
desperate to sell by a certain date, and will take whatever you are offered,
it is a good way to make the best of a bad situation.

Good luck,

Jim

James Fleming NAR
Short Sale Manager, Principal 
Fleming Realty Group | Keller Williams Premier Partners Realty
915 Broadway, First Floor, Vancouver WA 98660    
' 360.771.3003 |  7 360.702.0777 
* jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com
 
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-----Original Message-----
From:
5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho
mein5days.com
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose
llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of akmihos at verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:23 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

Susie, that is not what Bill had suggested to me about a couple of weeks
ago. He said that Craig's List would be the first place to advertise and may
be the only one for a 5-day sale. He said that maybe he would stick an add
or two in a couple of the local newspapers or internet but that would
probably not change ny chances or price that the house would sell for. This
is why I am asking the question again to Bill based on the interview that he
had with that company. What type of advertising vehicles did they use other
than Craig's List? Remember, you cannot advertise your house on the MLS for
half of what is worth because if that is the only price you can get out of
it, you are obligating to sell. You do not have to do this with your own add
on Craig's List or an internet newspaper add, etc... Am I wrong in thinking
this? 
Thanks, Ari. 
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com>

Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:28:43 
To: 'How To Sell Your Home in
5-Days'<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....


Ari,
Did you read what you wrote? What do you really believe? If you really want
to sell your house you might want to advertise every way possible to get the
most exposure..... Newspaper, web, Craig's list only reaches a few.... signs
etc.
If you were looking for a job would you only look on Craig's list?
Susie

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of akmihos at verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:35 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

Bill, were you able to find out what type of advertising method they used to
get the word out? Are they only using Craigslist? I am sure that they have
built up an extensive list of prospective buyers over the years which they
use everytime they do this which helps. Again my concern is not that your
system does not work. I truly believe it does and it is the best and fastest
way to sell a house at the highest price based on the market when you are
selling the home. My only concern is getting the exposure though the proper
advertising vehicle. Thanks Ari.
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Mon Jun 29 11:31:42 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:31:42 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <cdc.4eaf4ad3.377a385e@aol.com>

Well, we are done with the sale and sold it for exactly what it was listed  
for with a realtor but couldn't sell it.  Very pleased with the  outcome.  
However, there was TONS of confusion based on the ad and the way  it was 
written.  I think the ad that Bill has put together needs some  work.  I 
received at least 1/2 calls after the open houses asking where the  auction was 
going to be held.  I need to think about this.  Any  thoughts from others?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/27/2009 6:04:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Janetislight at aol.com writes:

We had some GREAT bids today and people coming back watching to see if  
someone has gone higher.  They aren't even waiting for the  Round-Robin.  So, 
no...... I'm not dead yet.... BILL.  
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:13:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tomwilson64 at yahoo.com writes:

 
I  agree with Bill.  The system assumes you will get calls on the weekend  
such that the 25 should represent what will turn into 50.    
 
 
From:  
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com  
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:03  PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.   Your home is not currently worth 
anything near what you hope to get for  it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day  Method.  
Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that  succeeds, let us know.

Bill  Effros
Author





_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)  wrote:   
 
I don't know how  my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 
contacts and two who I  feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the signs 
down.  I  think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes.  
 Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said  that 
she received most of her telephone calls during the  weekend.   What to do, 
what to do?
 

 
Janet
 

 

 
 
In a message  dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_nkhouri at cfl.rr.com_ (mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com)   writes:

 
It?s  not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not  
support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions  or 
bonuses or other incentives? 
Remember,  Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then 
contact a  realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a 
flat  fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS 
 and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an  
Exclusive Right To Sell. 
If  you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of 
what  method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was  
listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I  
would suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in,  
including recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned  
properties, online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of  what taking 
place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home  accordingly. If 
you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the  price by at least 
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks. 
Wish  you all the best, 
-Naji 
 
  
____________________________________
 
From:  
_5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
[_mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) ]  On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36  AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject:  [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so  far....
Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't  work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote:  
 

Suzie,
 
I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me  realtor.com and a 
handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop  flyers at realtors offices 
indicating a double commision for lineing up  the buyer. I think cash is king 
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than  food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is 
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the  pot and realtors will push my 
home. If this works I will write a book and  start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone
 

On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) >  wrote:

 
 
If I were  you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff 
in  the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for  
real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you  look 
into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up  if this 
program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks.  I used to be a 
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to  see it and 
advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses  with food! They always 
go for food and get creative with food. Not  subway or olive garden as they 
always get that?  
Susie 
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009  2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so  far....

 
I have had 4  emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do 
not  see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that  
price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any  
knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an  address. They only 
have the knowledge of the town and homes here  range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
here.  The phone is not ringing  because the inventory is massive.  Its 
that simple.   Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way 
too  thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going  to now 
list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to  the buyers agent.  
I will let all realtors in the area  know a cash bonus paid directly to 
them of a few thousand is there  if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have 
them all  interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the 
 punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
-----  Original Message ----- 
 
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To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
 
Sent: Thursday,  June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
 
Subject:  [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 

 
I received  three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at  
6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two  from newspaper ads. 
 I will try to update you tonight to include  the rest of today's calls.
 

 
Janet
 

 
 
  
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From: soakupthesuninc at yahoo.com (Soak Up the Sun)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:01:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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From: "Janetislight at aol.com" <Janetislight at aol.com>
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:31:42 AM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

Well, we are done with the sale and sold it for exactly what it was listed
for with a realtor but couldn't sell it.  Very pleased with the
outcome.  However, there was TONS of confusion based on the ad and the way
it was written.  I think the ad that Bill has put together needs some
work.  I received at least 1/2 calls after the open houses asking where the
auction was going to be held.  I need to think about this.  Any
thoughts from others?
 
Janet
 
In a message dated 6/27/2009 6:04:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Janetislight at aol.com writes:
We had some GREAT bids today and people coming back watching to see if someone has gone higher.  They aren't even waiting for the Round-Robin.  So, no...... I'm not dead yet.... BILL.  
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:13:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tomwilson64 at yahoo.com writes:
I agree with Bill.  The system assumes you will get calls on the weekend such that the 25 should represent what will turn into 50.  
 
From:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:03 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 
Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.  Your home is not currently worth anything near what you hope to get for it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day Method.  Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that succeeds, let us know.

Bill Effros
Author





Janetislight at aol.com wrote: 
I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the signs down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes.  Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said that she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend.   What to do, what to do?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:
It?s not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or bonuses or other incentives?
 
Remember, Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact a realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an Exclusive Right To Sell.
 
If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, including recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties, online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least 3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.
 
Wish you all the best,
 
-Naji
 

________________________________
 
From:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 
Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote: 

Suzie,
I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:
If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 
Susie
 
From:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 
I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 
 
Tim
----- Original Message ----- 
From:Janetislight at aol.com 
To:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
Sent:Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
Subject:[5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
 
I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.
 
Janet
 
 

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From Aaron at eurofixonline.com  Mon Jun 29 13:00:35 2009
From: Aaron at eurofixonline.com (Aaron Stokes)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:00:35 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?
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When do you give directions to the home? Do you tell the prospects on wed night? Or do you wait until the friday before and call everyone? I would suspect some will come early and try to look at the home atleast from the street.....




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From Aaron at eurofixonline.com  Mon Jun 29 13:04:09 2009
From: Aaron at eurofixonline.com (Aaron Stokes)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:04:09 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
References: <cdc.4eaf4ad3.377a385e@aol.com>
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Janet, what did the ad say? Or did it match the book? I suspect that some confusion is good, that's what makes them call..... You obviously did something right!
Did you list for half exactly of what you thought it was worth or a little less?

That's awseome about your house! Congradulations! Hope mine goes as well....


Aaron 

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Janetislight at aol.com 
  To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....


  Well, we are done with the sale and sold it for exactly what it was listed for with a realtor but couldn't sell it.  Very pleased with the outcome.  However, there was TONS of confusion based on the ad and the way it was written.  I think the ad that Bill has put together needs some work.  I received at least 1/2 calls after the open houses asking where the auction was going to be held.  I need to think about this.  Any thoughts from others?

  Janet

  In a message dated 6/27/2009 6:04:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Janetislight at aol.com writes:
    We had some GREAT bids today and people coming back watching to see if someone has gone higher.  They aren't even waiting for the Round-Robin.  So, no...... I'm not dead yet.... BILL.  

    In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:13:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tomwilson64 at yahoo.com writes:
      I agree with Bill.  The system assumes you will get calls on the weekend such that the 25 should represent what will turn into 50.  

       

      From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
      Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:03 PM
      To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
      Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

       

      Janet,

      You will get killed if you proceed.  Your home is not currently worth anything near what you hope to get for it.

      If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day Method.  Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

      If that succeeds, let us know.

      Bill Effros
      Author





      Janetislight at aol.com wrote: 

      I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the signs down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes.  Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said that she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend.   What to do, what to do?

       

      Janet

       

       

      In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:

        It?s not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or bonuses or other incentives?

         

        Remember, Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact a realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an Exclusive Right To Sell.

         

        If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, including recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties, online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least 3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.

         

        Wish you all the best,

         

        -Naji

         


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        From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
        Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
        To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
        Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

         

        Tim,

        What will you do if it doesn't work?

        Bill Effros
        Author

        Tim Dever wrote: 


        Suzie,

        I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
        Sent from my iPhone


        On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

          If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

          Susie

           

          From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
          Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
          To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
          Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

           

          I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 

           

          Tim

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Janetislight at aol.com 

            To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

            Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

            Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

             

            I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

             

            Janet

             

             


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From Janetislight at aol.com  Mon Jun 29 13:09:43 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:09:43 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
Message-ID: <c75.54621bad.377a4f57@aol.com>

I actually listed it for a little more, as we had reduced the price  when 
well listed it.  And the ad matched the book exactly.  I was  getting calls 
up to 7:30 last night about when the auction was.  I was  pretty sad.
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/29/2009 12:06:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Aaron at eurofixonline.com writes:

Janet, what did the ad say? Or did it match the book? I suspect that some  
confusion is good, that's what makes them call..... You obviously did  
something right!
Did you list for half exactly of what you thought it was worth or a  little 
less?
 
That's awseome about your house! Congradulations! Hope mine goes as  
well....
 
 
Aaron 
 
----- Original Message ----- 

From:  _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)  
To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:31  AM
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's  going so far....


Well, we are done with the sale and sold it for exactly what it was  listed 
for with a realtor but couldn't sell it.  Very pleased with the  outcome.  
However, there was TONS of confusion based on the ad and the  way it was 
written.  I think the ad that Bill has put together needs  some work.  I 
received at least 1/2 calls after the open houses asking  where the auction was 
going to be held.  I need to think about  this.  Any thoughts from others?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/27/2009 6:04:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Janetislight at aol.com writes:

We had some GREAT bids today and people coming back watching to see  if 
someone has gone higher.  They aren't even waiting for the  Round-Robin.  So, 
no...... I'm not dead yet.... BILL.  
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:13:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
tomwilson64 at yahoo.com writes:

 
I  agree with Bill.  The system assumes you will get calls on the  weekend 
such that the 25 should represent what will turn into 50.    
 
 
From:  
5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com  
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009  1:03 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject:  Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so  far....

Janet,

You will get killed if you  proceed.  Your home is not currently worth 
anything near what you  hope to get for it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth,  don't use the 5-Day Method.  
Do something else.  Use Tim's  method.

If that succeeds, let us know.

Bill  Effros
Author





_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com)  wrote:   
 
I don't know  how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 
contacts and  two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the signs  
down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see  how it goes. 
 Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done  5-day sales here said that 
she received most of her telephone calls  during the weekend.   What to do, 
what to  do?
 

 
Janet
 

 

 
 
In a message  dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_nkhouri at cfl.rr.com_ (mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com)   writes:

 
It?s  not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not  
support the market price regardless of how much you offer in  commissions or 
bonuses or other incentives? 
Remember,  Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then 
contact a  realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a  
flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing  in 
MLS and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed  as an 
Exclusive Right To Sell. 
If  you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of  
what method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it  was 
listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no  results. I 
would suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that  you?re in, 
including recent sales, days on market, current  foreclosures, bank owned 
properties, online analysis, and historical  analysis to get an idea of what taking 
place in your neighborhood  right now, then price the home accordingly. If 
you don?t get any  showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least 
3%-5% and  reevaluate in 3 weeks. 
Wish  you all the best, 
-Naji 
 
  
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(mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
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Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009  9:36 AM
To: How To Sell Your Home in  5-Days
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Tim,

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Tim Dever wrote:   
 

Suzie,
 
I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me  realtor.com and a 
handfull of others. I am then going to email and  drop flyers at realtors offices 
indicating a double commision for  lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king 
and an extra $3000 is more  motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is 
standard here now 4 or  5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my 
home. If this works I  will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my  iPhone
 

On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) >  wrote:

 
 
If I were  you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff  
in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites  for 
real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would  suggest you look 
into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use  it as a back up if this 
program doesn?t work for me when I try it in  a couple of weeks. I used to be a 
realtor and the two things you  must do is get people to see it and 
advertise on the internet. Do as  many realtor open houses with food! They always 
go for food and get  creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they 
always get  that?  
Susie 
 
 
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I have  had 4 emails that have been only realtors from  craigslist.  I do 
not see any potential in this program  whatsoever.  I still contend that 
price has nothing to do with  the number of calls because no one has any 
knowledge of the value of  my home because they do not have an address. They only 
have the  knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil 
 here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is  massive.  Its 
that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales  have calls and interest spread way 
too thin.  I had high  hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now 
list on the  MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers  agent. 
 I will let all realtors in the area know a cash  bonus paid directly to 
them of a few thousand is there if  they line up a buyer.  This way I will 
have them all  interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to 
the  punch. 
 

 
Tim

 
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I  received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So,  I'm at 
6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from  signs and two from newspaper ads. 
 I will try to update you  tonight to include the rest of today's  calls.
 

 
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From tomwilson64 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 29 13:35:46 2009
From: tomwilson64 at yahoo.com (Tom Wilson)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:35:46 -0500
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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You?d have to specify more about the problems.  As I worked through the process I initially thought it should be different, but just did what the book said.  As I worked through it per the book, I began to understand the whys.  Having confused callers is normal.  You could word it any way you wish and someone will confuse it.  There?s no perfect solution, but I think the way that is recommended does the best job of considering things.  A round robin is a bidding process so it is correct to say it is sold to the highest bidder.    I?m not sure I understand what the challenges were, but understand that no matter how you write it, there will be people who assume wrong.  If you followed the ad in the book formulaically then I can?t see how there was TONS of confusion.  I spent a pretty good amount of time in advance deciding how I would interact with callers and how I would direct them.  I think being certain of those things having thought them through also helps tremendously.  Bottom line is this is your round robin bid and you dictate everything about it.  You have to have supreme confidence in what you?re saying, how you?re communicating it and why.  All the bidders confidence flows from the person they talk to and how they can decide to trust that interaction.   You had a good result so through it all you must have won them over, or at least enough of the right ones.  

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+tomwilson64=yahoo.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com
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Well, we are done with the sale and sold it for exactly what it was listed for with a realtor but couldn't sell it.  Very pleased with the outcome.  However, there was TONS of confusion based on the ad and the way it was written.  I think the ad that Bill has put together needs some work.  I received at least 1/2 calls after the open houses asking where the auction was going to be held.  I need to think about this.  Any thoughts from others?

 

Janet

 

In a message dated 6/27/2009 6:04:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Janetislight at aol.com writes:

We had some GREAT bids today and people coming back watching to see if someone has gone higher.  They aren't even waiting for the Round-Robin.  So, no...... I'm not dead yet.... BILL.  Image removed by sender.

 

In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:13:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tomwilson64 at yahoo.com writes:

I agree with Bill.  The system assumes you will get calls on the weekend such that the 25 should represent what will turn into 50.  

 

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Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.  Your home is not currently worth anything near what you hope to get for it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day Method.  Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that succeeds, let us know.

Bill Effros
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Janetislight at aol.com wrote: 

I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the signs down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes.  Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said that she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend.   What to do, what to do?

 

Janet

 

 

In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:

It?s not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or bonuses or other incentives?

 

Remember, Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact a realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an Exclusive Right To Sell.

 

If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, including recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties, online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least 3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.

 

Wish you all the best,

 

-Naji

 


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Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote: 


Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

Susie

 

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 

 

Tim

----- Original Message ----- 

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To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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From tgarter at comcast.net  Mon Jun 29 13:37:52 2009
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:37:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Janet, 
We had a successful sale. We followed Bill's book exactly. We too had people calling after the sale was over. I don't think anything needs to change. My goal was to sell my house. I don't really care if people where too stupid to read the ad correctly, mine very clearly stated Sat & Sun and the dates. Opps, not politically correct to call stupid people stupid. They were calling me AFTER the published date asking questions. I simply told them the sale was held on the day it was advertised. 
Tom 
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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:31:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
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Well, we are done with the sale and sold it for exactly what it was listed for with a realtor but couldn't sell it. Very pleased with the outcome. However, there was TONS of confusion based on the ad and the way it was written. I think the ad that Bill has put together needs some work. I received at least 1/2 calls after the open houses asking where the auction was going to be held. I need to think about this. Any thoughts from others? 

Janet 


In a message dated 6/27/2009 6:04:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Janetislight at aol.com writes: 


We had some GREAT bids today and people coming back watching to see if someone has gone higher. They aren't even waiting for the Round-Robin. So, no...... I'm not dead yet.... BILL. 


In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:13:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tomwilson64 at yahoo.com writes: 




I agree with Bill. The system assumes you will get calls on the weekend such that the 25 should represent what will turn into 50. 





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Janet, 

You will get killed if you proceed. Your home is not currently worth anything near what you hope to get for it. 

If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day Method. Do something else. Use Tim's method. 

If that succeeds, let us know. 

Bill Effros 
Author 





Janetislight at aol.com wrote: 


I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 contacts and two who I feel are real buyers. One wanted to go tear the signs down. I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes. Am I wrong? Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said that she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend. What to do, what to do? 





Janet 









In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes: 




It?s not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or bonuses or other incentives? 



Remember, Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact a realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an Exclusive Right To Sell. 



If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, including recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties, online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least 3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks. 



Wish you all the best, 



-Naji 






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What will you do if it doesn't work? 

Bill Effros 
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Tim Dever wrote: 



Suzie, 


I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum. 
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If I were you listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

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I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist. I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever. I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here. The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive. Its that simple. Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin. I had high hopes for this program. I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent. I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer. This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. 





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I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. So, I'm at 6/25. Nothing from Craig's List. Four from signs and two from newspaper ads. I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls. 





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From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:02:53 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?
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I would give them the address when they call. If they drive by, that's OK, isn't it? They may decide not to show up on Saturday, but that's the way it goes - they wouldn't have been your buyer in that case. If they drive by and like the neighborhood, like the house, they will be excited to come and make a bid at the weekend.
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  When do you give directions to the home? Do you tell the prospects on wed night? Or do you wait until the friday before and call everyone? I would suspect some will come early and try to look at the home atleast from the street.....




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From jcrafor at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 30 14:58:02 2009
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:58:02 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?
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Why would you follow everything else exactly, and ignore that one? 

One goal is to get as many people at the house at the same time, and Bill makes that very clear in the book. 

The exact address is given late Fri or early Saturday so people come Sat, not WED. 

You might give the subdivision name, or the main street corners, and maybe people will drive to the subdivision and look around, but still not see the house...

When I did mine, I called or emailed late Friday. 

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I would give them the address when they call. If they drive by, that's OK, isn't it? They may decide not to show up on Saturday, but that's the way it goes - they wouldn't have been your buyer in that case. If they drive by and like the neighborhood, like the house, they will be excited to come and make a bid at the weekend.
Rosemarie

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When do you give directions to the home? Do you tell the prospects on wed night? Or do you wait until the friday before and call everyone? I would suspect some will come early and try to look at the home atleast from the street.....
 
 
 
 
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From susies07 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 15:05:36 2009
From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:05:36 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?
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I am concerned as my house is by far the most updated and nicest in a not so
nice neighborhood but great access to downtown, college and retirement
center. Also re: directions, it is very hard to turn around on my street,
houses built early 1900's and it's a 

dead end with no real turn around and parking is limited. What are your
thoughts?

Signed,

 

Please help

 

From:
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of j crafor
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:58 PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?

 

Why would you follow everything else exactly, and ignore that one? 
One goal is to get as many people at the house at the same time, and Bill
makes that very clear in the book. 
The exact address is given late Fri or early Saturday so people come Sat,
not WED. 
You might give the subdivision name, or the main street corners, and maybe
people will drive to the subdivision and look around, but still not see the
house...
When I did mine, I called or emailed late Friday. 
JCrafor
 

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From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:02:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?

I would give them the address when they call. If they drive by, that's OK,
isn't it? They may decide not to show up on Saturday, but that's the way it
goes - they wouldn't have been your buyer in that case. If they drive by and
like the neighborhood, like the house, they will be excited to come and make
a bid at the weekend.

Rosemarie

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To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:00 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?

 

When do you give directions to the home? Do you tell the prospects on wed
night? Or do you wait until the friday before and call everyone? I would
suspect some will come early and try to look at the home atleast from the
street.....

 

 

 

 

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From Janetislight at aol.com  Tue Jun 30 15:47:46 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:47:46 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?
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Is it far from a cross street that people can park on?
 
Janet
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/30/2009 2:07:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
susies07 at gmail.com writes:

 
I am concerned as my  house is by far the most updated and nicest in a not 
so nice neighborhood but  great access to downtown, college and retirement 
center. Also re: directions,  it is very hard to turn around on my street, 
houses built early 1900?s and  it?s a  
dead end with no real  turn around and parking is limited. What are your  
thoughts? 
Signed, 
Please  help 
 
 
From:  
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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com]  On Behalf Of j crafor
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:58  PM
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home
Subject: Re:  [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?

Why would you  follow everything else exactly, and ignore that one? 
One goal is  to get as many people at the house at the same time, and Bill 
makes that  very clear in the book. 
The exact address is given late Fri or early  Saturday so people come Sat, 
not WED. 
You might give the subdivision  name, or the main street corners, and maybe 
people will drive to the  subdivision and look around, but still not see 
the house...
When I did  mine, I called or emailed late Friday.  
JCrafor
 
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From:  rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com
To:  5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009  08:02:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to  Home? 
 
I would give them  the address when they call. If they drive by, that's OK, 
isn't it? They may  decide not to show up on Saturday, but that's the way 
it goes - they wouldn't  have been your buyer in that case. If they drive by 
and like the neighborhood,  like the house, they will be excited to come and 
make a bid at the  weekend.
 
Rosemarie

 
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From: _Aaron Stokes_ (mailto:Aaron at eurofixonline.com)   
 
To: _5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ 
(mailto:5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com)   
 
Sent: Monday, June 29,  2009 1:00 PM
 
Subject: [5-DayForum]  Giving Directions to Home?
 

 
When do you give  directions to the home? Do you tell the prospects on wed 
night? Or do you  wait until the friday before and call everyone? I would 
suspect some will  come early and try to look at the home atleast from the  
street.....
 

 

 

 

 
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From Janetislight at aol.com  Tue Jun 30 15:48:55 2009
From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:48:55 EDT
Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?
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I gave the address when they called.  Didn't seem to be a  problem.  But I 
think either way would work.
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/30/2009 1:59:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jcrafor at hotmail.com writes:

Why  would you follow everything else exactly, and ignore that  one? 
One goal is to get as many people at the house at the same time,  and Bill 
makes that very clear in the book. 
The exact address is  given late Fri or early Saturday so people come Sat, 
not WED. 
You  might give the subdivision name, or the main street corners, and  
maybe people will drive to the subdivision and look around, but  still not see 
the house...
When I did mine, I called or emailed late  Friday. 
JCrafor

 
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009  08:02:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?

I would give them the address when they call.  If they drive by, that's OK, 
isn't it? They may decide not to show up on  Saturday, but that's the way 
it goes - they wouldn't have been your buyer in  that case. If they drive by 
and like the neighborhood, like the house, they  will be excited to come and 
make a bid at the weekend.
Rosemarie

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When do you give directions to the home? Do you  tell the prospects on wed 
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suspect some will come early and try to look at the  home atleast from the 
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From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:49:02 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?
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That won?t do either. Little narrow streets. I can park 3 cars at the most. 1 in my drive and 2 across the street which is one lane. It will be obvious that parking is a problem. 

 

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Is it far from a cross street that people can park on?

 

Janet

 

 

In a message dated 6/30/2009 2:07:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes:

I am concerned as my house is by far the most updated and nicest in a not so nice neighborhood but great access to downtown, college and retirement center. Also re: directions, it is very hard to turn around on my street, houses built early 1900?s and it?s a 

dead end with no real turn around and parking is limited. What are your thoughts?

Signed,

 

Please help

 

From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of j crafor
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To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?

 

Why would you follow everything else exactly, and ignore that one? 
One goal is to get as many people at the house at the same time, and Bill makes that very clear in the book. 
The exact address is given late Fri or early Saturday so people come Sat, not WED. 
You might give the subdivision name, or the main street corners, and maybe people will drive to the subdivision and look around, but still not see the house...
When I did mine, I called or emailed late Friday. 
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:02:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?

I would give them the address when they call. If they drive by, that's OK, isn't it? They may decide not to show up on Saturday, but that's the way it goes - they wouldn't have been your buyer in that case. If they drive by and like the neighborhood, like the house, they will be excited to come and make a bid at the weekend.

Rosemarie

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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:00 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home?

 

When do you give directions to the home? Do you tell the prospects on wed night? Or do you wait until the friday before and call everyone? I would suspect some will come early and try to look at the home atleast from the street.....

 

 

 

 

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Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Here is a program to check out. No Fico No Doc and up to 120k line of
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Susie <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  If I were you  listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff
> in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real
> estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into
> Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program
> doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a
> realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
> on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go
> for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they
> always get that?
>
> Susie
>
>
>
> *From:* 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com@
> mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07<5-dayforum-bounces%2Bsusies07>
> =gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Dever
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
> *To:* How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
> *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>
>
>
> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
> see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
> has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
> of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
> the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
> here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
> simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
> thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
> the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
> let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
> few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
> all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the
> punch.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Janetislight at aol.com
>
> *To:* 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM
>
> *Subject:* [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
>
>
>
> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at
> 6/25.  Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper
> ads.  I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.
>
>
>
> Janet
>
>
>
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From gltucker at sc.rr.com  Fri Jun 26 21:55:56 2009
From: gltucker at sc.rr.com (Ginny Tucker)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:55:56 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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Janet,
 
I'm thinking about doing this in Myrtle Beach, SC.  Can you give me an idea
as to what your signs said or looked like?
 
Wishing you the best on your 5-day sale this weekend!
 
Ginny

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[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+gltucker=sc.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
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Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....


FYI, almost EVERY response came from the 20 signs we put up around Des
Moines.  Only three were from newspaper ads.  Maybe this is a new method to
introduce to your 5-day Sale philosophy.  Oh no!  Does that mean you might
have to write another book?    <http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/2b00000232/08> 
 
Janet
 
PS:  This idea was given to us by friends who have done this in other towns,
but never tried here.  Boy, it DOES work.
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 6:25:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Janetislight at aol.com writes:


still 18/25... but what I feel are 4 real buyers.  We have been getting 2-4
later calls at night so that will put me over 20.  Well, Bill.... lets see
if I'm dead on Monday.    <http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/2b00000232/02> 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:05:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
bill at effros.com writes:

Janet,

You will get killed if you proceed.  Your home is not currently worth
anything near what you hope to get for it.

If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day Method.
Do something else.  Use Tim's method.

If that succeeds, let us know.

Bill Effros
Author





Janetislight at aol.com wrote: 


I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12
contacts and two who I feel are real buyers.  One wanted to go tear the
signs down.  I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it
goes.  Am I wrong?  Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said
that she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend.   What to
do, what to do?
 
Janet
 
 
In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes:



It's not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not
support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or
bonuses or other incentives.

 

Remember, Realtors don't find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact
a realtor to use his or her services. Additionally, when you go with a flat
fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and
many Realtors will not even show anything that's not listed as an Exclusive
Right To Sell.

 

If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what
method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed
with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would
suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you're in, including
recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties,
online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place
in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you
don't get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least
3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks.

 

Wish you all the best,

 

-Naji

 


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Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM
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Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

Tim,

What will you do if it doesn't work?

Bill Effros
Author

Tim Dever wrote: 


Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull
of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices
indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king
and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is
standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my
home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:

If I were you  listing in just the mls it's is a little more than a puff in
the wind. IF you don't have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real
estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into
Cen 21's click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program
doesn't work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a
realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise
on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go
for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they
always get that. 

Susie

 

From:
5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
[mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da
ys.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist.  I do not
see any potential in this program whatsoever.  I still contend that price
has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge
of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have
the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil
here.  The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.  Its that
simple.  Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too
thin.  I had high hopes for this program.  I think I am going to now list on
the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent.  I will
let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a
few thousand is there if they line up a buyer.  This way I will have them
all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.


 

Tim

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Janetislight at aol.com 

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM

Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....

 

I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.  So, I'm at 6/25.
Nothing from Craig's List.  Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.  I
will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.

 

Janet

 

 


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From stvgary at aol.com  Fri Jun 26 21:18:37 2009
From: stvgary at aol.com (stvgary at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:18:37 -0400
Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....
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anything wrong with putting the towns tax accessed value in very small print to give people an idea of how much of a bargain they might get?


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Dever <tdever at monkeysarcades.com>
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Fri, Jun 26, 2009 5:10 pm
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....



Bill,




Please tell me why half price of a number that is unkown matters so much. I just see no logic in this at all. The people that see my listing have no idea what my home is really worth. As far as they are concerned my home is worth between zero and a million dollars. ?The phone should ring based on a quality description and what seems to be a good deal.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:






Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals,

I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host whose firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they believe they can sell them for.

In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, somebody in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a home they had had in their inventory for too long.? They followed the book exactly.? It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in all the time they held it.

And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other homes in their 
inventory.

Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the 5-Day Method.? They sell to the top bidder every time.? Some of their homes are sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home.

When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals using the 5-Day Method in their area.? Now, he says all of his competitors are using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it was not being used by all professionals, all over the country.? He can't imagine his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all professional home sellers.

As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals.? Originally I developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their current value.? It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were pricing at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no responses as a result.

If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is why I changed to this formulation.? Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting price is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to attract a sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers.

It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest possible price.? Only if you price too high 
do you fail to get a sufficient number of real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of initial responses.

I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play the method by the book.? I believe the professionals on this list do the FSBOs a disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals that are known to not work for FSBOs.

I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can get more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided only that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder.

Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum who spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions over and over.? The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members who never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for all the work done by permanent Forum members.? I should mention it more often.

Thanks to all of you,

Bill Effros
Author

?

rosemarie-fred wrote: 

Tim -

If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers.

It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following this have done this: They say that?the system doesn't work because they tried it except... (Insert your own exception
). You seem to be using common sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless.? Perhaps it's the competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It happens!

Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim. It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you.

Rosemarie


----- Original Message ----- 

From: Tim Dever 

To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days 

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM

Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....





Suzie,

I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <susies07 at gmail.com> wrote:






If I were you? listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you 
are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? 

Susie





From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dever
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM
To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....






I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors?from craigslist.? I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever.? I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address.?They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here.? The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.? Its that simple.? Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest?spread way too thin.? I had high hopes for this program.? I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the0buyers agent.? I will let all realtors?in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them?of a few thousand is there if they?line up a buyer.? This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch.?







Tim




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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM



Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far....







I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.? So, I'm at 6/25.? Nothing from Craig's List.? Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.? I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls.







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From honore.associates at hotmail.co.uk  Sun Jun 21 02:45:41 2009
From: honore.associates at hotmail.co.uk (Adele Honore)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:45:41 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] Welcome to the "5-DayForum" mailing list (Digest
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From honore.associates at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 12:49:09 2009
From: honore.associates at hotmail.co.uk (Adele Honore)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:49:09 +0000
Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 27, Issue 22
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Hi I have been recommended the book from someone who is living in Germany and used this a year ago in Cyprus.

 

He was successful in obtaining his 3 top offers however due to delays of paying monies by the purchasers he sold it to someone from a source of recommendation. The auction buyers lost out due to their delay.

 

I am in the UK and just about to take delivery of a newly built golf villa in Cyprus. 

 

Does anyone have any experiance of using this system recently within the Europe or Cyprus.

 

I am wondering if the current climate is also effecting this system.

 

Thanks

 

Adele

 


 
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Subject: 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 27, Issue 22
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Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:38:18 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
From: Janetislight at aol.com









I am having my first 5-Day Sale this weekend.  Sooooooo..... jury is 
still out!  I plan to post to the public forum what happens starting 
Wednesday.

 

Janet

 



In a message dated 6/22/2009 10:38:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
jcrafor at hotmail.com writes:

The REASON for a public forum such as this one is so that 
people CAN ask questions and get answers. If you ask your questions 
privately, and someone answers them privately, that does not help anyone 
else.
 
Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we 
can all learn. 
Jcrafor
 

 




From: Leighann15 at comcast.net
To: jcrafor at hotmail.com; 
Janetislight at aol.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
Date: 
Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500








Does anyone know of a success story 
so I can email them any questions that I have?  Have either of you had 
success yet?

 

Leigh Ann



----- Original Message ----- 

 




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Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:59:23 +0000
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
From: leighann15 at comcast.net







I sent this to the 5 day forum as well.  I just hit reply all.  No need for CAPS.



----- Original Message -----
From: "j crafor" <jcrafor at hotmail.com>
To: "5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:34:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum





The REASON for a public forum such as this one is so that people CAN ask questions and get answers. If you ask your questions privately, and someone answers them privately, that does not help anyone else.
 
Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we can all learn. 
Jcrafor
 

 











From: Leighann15 at comcast.net
To: jcrafor at hotmail.com; Janetislight at aol.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500









Does anyone know of a success story so I can email them any questions that I have?  Have either of you had success yet?

 

Leigh Ann



----- Original Message ----- 
 




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Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:36:06 +0000
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
From: jcrafor at hotmail.com










Occassional words written in all capital letters denotes emphasis.

An entire post with all words written in all capital letters denotes anger.

 

I used caps in two words to denote emphasis on those words.

 

JCrafor
 




Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:59:23 +0000
From: leighann15 at comcast.net
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum








I sent this to the 5 day forum as well.  I just hit reply all.  No need for CAPS.


----- Original Message -----
From: "j crafor" <jcrafor at hotmail.com>
To: "5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:34:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum





The REASON for a public forum such as this one is so that people CAN ask questions and get answers. If you ask your questions privately, and someone answers them privately, that does not help anyone else.
 
Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we can all learn. 
Jcrafor
 

 










From: Leighann15 at comcast.net
To: jcrafor at hotmail.com; Janetislight at aol.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500









Does anyone know of a success story so I can email them any questions that I have?  Have either of you had success yet?

 

Leigh Ann



----- Original Message ----- 
 




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Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:13:21 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
From: Janetislight at aol.com









Can we stop this now and talk about selling houses?

 

Janet

 



In a message dated 6/22/2009 2:37:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
jcrafor at hotmail.com writes:

Occassional words written in all capital letters denotes 
emphasis.
An entire post with all words written in all capital letters 
denotes anger.
 
I used caps in two words to denote emphasis on 
those words.
 
JCrafor
 




Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:59:23 +0000
From: leighann15 at comcast.net
To: 
5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 
private emails vs public forum







I sent this 
to the 5 day forum as well.  I just hit reply all.  No need for 
CAPS.

----- Original Message -----
From: "j crafor" 
<jcrafor at hotmail.com>
To: "5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home" 
<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Monday, June 
22, 2009 10:34:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 
private emails vs public forum





The REASON for a public forum such as this one is so that people CAN 
ask questions and get answers. If you ask your questions privately, and 
someone answers them privately, that does not help anyone 
else.
 
Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we 
can all learn. 
Jcrafor
 

 








From: Leighann15 at comcast.net
To: jcrafor at hotmail.com; 
Janetislight at aol.com
Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
Date: 
Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500









Does anyone know of a success story 
so I can email them any questions that I have?  Have either of you had 
success yet?

 

Leigh Ann



----- Original Message ----- 

 




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how. 
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Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:13:51 -0500
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
From: roxanneinvestments at gmail.com


OK - so let's now start hearing success stories.  Let's see how many we can capture.

 

Tony



On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM, j crafor <jcrafor at hotmail.com> wrote:




Occassional words written in all capital letters denotes emphasis.
An entire post with all words written in all capital letters denotes anger.
 
I used caps in two words to denote emphasis on those words.

 
JCrafor
 




Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:59:23 +0000
From: leighann15 at comcast.net
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com

Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum



I sent this to the 5 day forum as well.  I just hit reply all.  No need for CAPS.

----- Original Message -----
From: "j crafor" <jcrafor at hotmail.com>

To: "5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:34:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central

Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum

The REASON for a public forum such as this one is so that people CAN ask questions and get answers. If you ask your questions privately, and someone answers them privately, that does not help anyone else.

 
Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we can all learn. 
Jcrafor
 

 








From: Leighann15 at comcast.net
To: jcrafor at hotmail.com; Janetislight at aol.com

Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500





Does anyone know of a success story so I can email them any questions that I have?  Have either of you had success yet?

 

Leigh Ann



----- Original Message ----- 
 






Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. See how. 
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--Forwarded Message Attachment--
Subject: [5-DayForum] Success Stories
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:11:27 -0400
To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com
From: bill at effros.com









The success stories are in the archives.



People who have just sold their homes are much too busy to spend a lot
of time on an Internet forum bragging about their success.  Many are
gracious enough to provide details once things have settled down.  Most
don't, although I get a lot of private email from people who lurked,
but chose to never post to the Forum.



Many professionals post to this forum who have sold scores of homes
using the 5-Day Method, and who continue to sell homes using this
method week in and week out.  They don't have either the time or the
inclination to answer every newbie, but they do pop up from time to
time, and whatever they choose to say can be found in the archives.



The bottom line is that this method has been used successfully for more
than 20 years, in good times and bad, everywhere in the country, on
every style and price home.  I believe the method detailed in the 3rd
edition of the book is the best method for newbies, although there are
many who feel otherwise.



We have developed an extensive archive that can be sorted, downloaded,
and perused.



Use it.



Bill Effros

Author











Jill Greenberg wrote:



OK - so let's now start hearing success stories.  Let's see how
many we can capture.

 

Tony





On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM, j crafor <jcrafor at hotmail.com>
wrote:




Occassional words written in all capital letters denotes
emphasis.

An entire post with all words written in all capital letters denotes
anger.

 

I used caps in two words to denote emphasis on those words.

 

JCrafor

 




Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:59:23 +0000

From: leighann15 at comcast.net

To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com

Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum




I
sent this to the 5 day forum as well.  I just hit reply all.  No need
for CAPS.



----- Original Message -----

From: "j crafor" <jcrafor at hotmail.com>

To: "5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>

Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:34:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central

Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] private emails vs public forum



The REASON for a public forum such as this one is so that people CAN
ask questions and get answers. If you ask your questions privately, and
someone answers them privately, that does not help anyone else.

 

Please, ask questions publicly, respond publically, so we can all
learn. 

Jcrafor

 



 









From: Leighann15 at comcast.net

To: jcrafor at hotmail.com; Janetislight at aol.com

Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-day sales in Iowa

Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:38:02 -0500










Does anyone know of a
success story so I can email them any questions that I have?  Have
either of you had success yet?

 

Leigh Ann



-----
Original Message ----- 


 






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From kmori at ci.springfield.oh.us  Sun Jun 28 20:48:19 2009
From: kmori at ci.springfield.oh.us (Korge Mori)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:48:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] the quick route to a short sale?
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Folks of The Forum: 

After reading the "How To Sell..." book over the weekend, I am left wanting to believe that this home sale strategy is what I need to do to sell my home.? I have one super-huge lingering question, however, that I can't seem to find addressed in the book or the Forum threads.? That is, in a real estate market that is depreciating like a rust-bucket Yugo, what am I to do if my highest bidder can't cover what I currently owe the bank?? I want to be able to tell all my potential buyers, "Yes,?this home will be sold?to the highest bidder on Sunday night!", but what if I'm stuck trying to negotiate a short sale or loan modification last-minute with the bank because the true market value of my home isn't what the highest bidder is willing to pay?? This "no-risk" strategy is suddenly starting to sound like I have EVERYTHING to lose if the right buyer doesn't come around... 

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From lgwatson04 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 30 11:59:00 2009
From: lgwatson04 at yahoo.com (L Watson)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:59:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [5-DayForum] Has this been used to sell land?
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I have a 14 ac hot artesian well property to sell any advice on add etc.
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