From Aaron at eurofixonline.com Wed Jul 1 12:14:53 2009 From: Aaron at eurofixonline.com (Aaron Stokes) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:14:53 -0500 Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home? References: <88CC83B492854821AD55598B03E978EA@aaroncomputer> Message-ID: Thanks. that helps alot! I'll probably just email everyone fri night then Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: j crafor To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home? Why would you follow everything else exactly, and ignore that one? One goal is to get as many people at the house at the same time, and Bill makes that very clear in the book. The exact address is given late Fri or early Saturday so people come Sat, not WED. You might give the subdivision name, or the main street corners, and maybe people will drive to the subdivision and look around, but still not see the house... When I did mine, I called or emailed late Friday. JCrafor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:02:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home? I would give them the address when they call. If they drive by, that's OK, isn't it? They may decide not to show up on Saturday, but that's the way it goes - they wouldn't have been your buyer in that case. If they drive by and like the neighborhood, like the house, they will be excited to come and make a bid at the weekend. Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: Aaron Stokes To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home? When do you give directions to the home? Do you tell the prospects on wed night? Or do you wait until the friday before and call everyone? 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Message-ID: <4d0090bd0907010947u708d37d7pdb7757453aed3736@mail.gmail.com> Bill and folks, I am a big fan of Bill's 5 day methods, however, my io insists using traditional methods. So, I would use a compromise describe below. Now I am speculating whether it is going to work: (1) To list the house at $549,500 on mls, realtors.com, etc. It is a very good price, but not half price. In the message section, I am going to put "Round Robin on Sunday 07/12. Bidding will start at $XXX,XXX (one-half the list price)." (2) On Craigslist, list starting bid as half of the price to attract crowd. We are at Secaucus(only 5 minutes to Lincoln Tunnel). According to bill, craigslist alone is going to attract enough crowd at NY metropolitan area. (3) Open for inspection on Saturday(7/11) and Sunday(7/12). Run the round-robin bidding on Sunday night. Give 2.25% commission to buyers agent and give 2.25% discount to individuals without agents. (5) If the top 3 does not meet our desired price, we are going to tell them and ask whether they are willing to match and buy the house with our price. (6) If a deal is made Sunday night , sign the contract with them Monday or Wednesday morning. Will that work? Jennifer On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Bill Effros wrote: > Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals, > > I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host whose > firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they believe > they can sell them for. > > In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, somebody > in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a home > they had had in their inventory for too long.? They followed the book > exactly.? It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in all > the time they held it. > > And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other homes > in their inventory. > > Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the 5-Day > Method.? They sell to the top bidder every time.? Some of their homes are > sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home. > > When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals using > the 5-Day Method in their area.? Now, he says all of his competitors are > using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it was > not being used by all professionals, all over the country.? He can't imagine > his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over > time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all professional > home sellers. > > As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals.? Originally I > developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their > current value.? It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of > determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were pricing > at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no > responses as a result. > > If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is why > I changed to this formulation.? Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting price > is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to attract a > sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers. > > It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest possible > price.? Only if you price too high do you fail to get a sufficient number of > real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of > initial responses. > > I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play the > method by the book.? I believe the professionals on this list do the FSBOs a > disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals that > are known to not work for FSBOs. > > I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can get > more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided only > that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder. > > Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum who > spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions over > and over.? The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members who > never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for all the > work done by permanent Forum members.? I should mention it more often. > > Thanks to all of you, > > Bill Effros > Author > > > > rosemarie-fred wrote: > > Tim - > If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers. > It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day > sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following > the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following > this have done this: They say that?the system doesn't work because they > tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using common > sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could > advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can > live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless.? Perhaps it's the > competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love > with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It > happens! > Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim. > It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you. > Rosemarie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Dever > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... > > Suzie, > I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull > of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices > indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king > and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is > standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my > home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum. > Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" wrote: > > If I were you? listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in > the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real > estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into > Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program > doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a > realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise > on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go > for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they > always get that? > > Susie > > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] > On Behalf Of Tim Dever > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... > > I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors?from craigslist.? I do not > see any potential in this program whatsoever.? I still contend that price > has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge > of the value of my home because they do not have an address.?They only have > the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil > here.? The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive.? Its that > simple.? Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest?spread way too > thin.? I had high hopes for this program.? I think I am going to now list on > the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the?buyers agent.? I will > let all realtors?in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them?of a > few thousand is there if they?line up a buyer.? This way I will have them > all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the > punch. > > Tim > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Janetislight at aol.com > > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM > > Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... > > I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today.? So, I'm at 6/25. > Nothing from Craig's List.? Four from signs and two from newspaper ads.? I > will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls. > > Janet > > ________________________________ > > Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > ________________________________ > > I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 2375 of my spam emails to date. > The Professional version does not have this message. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4189 (20090625) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4191 (20090626) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > From damian_colden at yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 12:56:09 2009 From: damian_colden at yahoo.com (Damian Colden) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] Will this work? In-Reply-To: <4d0090bd0907010947u708d37d7pdb7757453aed3736@mail.gmail.com> References: <4d0090bd0907010947u708d37d7pdb7757453aed3736@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <111345.66206.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Comments: (1) In the MLS comments section I would state that the house WILL be sold on Sunday night. (3) Why give the non-represented a 2.25% discount. Dac Colden ----- Original Message ---- From: Jennifer Wang To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:47:28 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] Will this work? Bill and folks, I am a big fan of Bill's 5 day methods, however, my io insists using traditional methods. So, I would use a compromise describe below. Now I am speculating whether it is going to work: (1) To list the house at $549,500 on mls, realtors.com, etc. It is a very good price, but not half price. In the message section, I am going to put "Round Robin on Sunday 07/12. Bidding will start at $XXX,XXX (one-half the list price)." (2) On Craigslist, list starting bid as half of the price to attract crowd. We are at Secaucus(only 5 minutes to Lincoln Tunnel). According to bill, craigslist alone is going to attract enough crowd at NY metropolitan area. (3) Open for inspection on Saturday(7/11) and Sunday(7/12). Run the round-robin bidding on Sunday night. Give 2.25% commission to buyers agent and give 2.25% discount to individuals without agents. (5) If the top 3 does not meet our desired price, we are going to tell them and ask whether they are willing to match and buy the house with our price. (6) If a deal is made Sunday night , sign the contract with them Monday or Wednesday morning. Will that work? Jennifer On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Bill Effros wrote: > Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals, > > I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host whose > firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they believe > they can sell them for. > > In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, somebody > in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a home > they had had in their inventory for too long. They followed the book > exactly. It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in all > the time they held it. > > And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other homes > in their inventory. > > Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the 5-Day > Method. They sell to the top bidder every time. Some of their homes are > sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home. > > When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals using > the 5-Day Method in their area. Now, he says all of his competitors are > using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it was > not being used by all professionals, all over the country. He can't imagine > his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over > time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all professional > home sellers. > > As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals. Originally I > developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their > current value. It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of > determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were pricing > at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no > responses as a result. > > If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is why > I changed to this formulation. Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting price > is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to attract a > sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers. > > It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest possible > price. Only if you price too high do you fail to get a sufficient number of > real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of > initial responses. > > I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play the > method by the book. I believe the professionals on this list do the FSBOs a > disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals that > are known to not work for FSBOs. > > I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can get > more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided only > that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder. > > Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum who > spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions over > and over. The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members who > never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for all the > work done by permanent Forum members. I should mention it more often. > > Thanks to all of you, > > Bill Effros > Author > > > > rosemarie-fred wrote: > > Tim - > If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers. > It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day > sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following > the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following > this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they > tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using common > sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could > advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can > live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless. Perhaps it's the > competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love > with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It > happens! > Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim. > It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you. > Rosemarie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Dever > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... > > Suzie, > I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull > of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices > indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king > and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is > standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my > home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum. > Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" wrote: > > If I were you listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in > the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real > estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into > Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program > doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a > realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise > on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go > for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they > always get that? > > Susie > > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] > On Behalf Of Tim Dever > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... > > I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist. I do not > see any potential in this program whatsoever. I still contend that price > has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge > of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have > the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil > here. The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive. Its that > simple. Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too > thin. I had high hopes for this program. I think I am going to now list on > the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent. I will > let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a > few thousand is there if they line up a buyer. This way I will have them > all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the > punch. > > Tim > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Janetislight at aol.com > > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM > > Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... > > I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. So, I'm at 6/25. > Nothing from Craig's List. Four from signs and two from newspaper ads. I > will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls. > > Janet > > ________________________________ > > Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > ________________________________ > > I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 2375 of my spam emails to date. > The Professional version does not have this message. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4189 (20090625) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4191 (20090626) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From jw012000 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 13:36:42 2009 From: jw012000 at gmail.com (Jennifer Wang) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:36:42 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Will this work? In-Reply-To: <111345.66206.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4d0090bd0907010947u708d37d7pdb7757453aed3736@mail.gmail.com> <111345.66206.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4d0090bd0907011036g5af2d523g1a5581c41f25bf17@mail.gmail.com> Dac, Thanks for the comments. To answer your comments: (1) the whole comprise I came up with is to avoid have to sell the house on Sunday night if a desire number does not come. ( I have all the faith in bill's method, but my io is not as certain as me. ) (2) I shall modify my practice to this: I would inform the Realtors of the bidding method and all bids are evaluated on a net to the seller basis; and I would be happy to add their fees to the final bid if their client is the highest bidder. Jennifer On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Damian Colden wrote: > > Comments: > > (1) In the MLS comments section I would state that the house WILL be sold on Sunday night. > > (3) Why give the non-represented a 2.25% discount. > > Dac Colden > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jennifer Wang > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:47:28 PM > Subject: [5-DayForum] Will this work? > > Bill and folks, > > I am a big fan of Bill's 5 day methods, however, my io insists using > traditional methods. So, I would use a compromise describe below. Now > I am speculating whether it is going to work: > > (1) To list the house at $549,500 on mls, realtors.com, etc. It is a > very good price, but not half price. In the message section, I am > going to put "Round Robin on Sunday 07/12. ?Bidding will start at > $XXX,XXX (one-half the list price)." > (2) On Craigslist, list starting bid as half of the price to attract > crowd. We are at Secaucus(only 5 minutes to Lincoln Tunnel). > According to bill, craigslist alone is going to attract enough crowd > at NY metropolitan area. > (3) Open for inspection on Saturday(7/11) and Sunday(7/12). Run the > round-robin bidding on Sunday night. Give 2.25% commission to buyers > agent and ?give 2.25% discount to individuals without agents. > (5) If the top 3 does not meet our desired price, we are going to tell > them and ask whether they are willing to match and buy the house with > our price. > (6) If a deal is made Sunday night , sign the contract with them > Monday or Wednesday morning. > > Will that work? > > Jennifer > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Bill Effros wrote: >> Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals, >> >> I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host whose >> firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they believe >> they can sell them for. >> >> In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, somebody >> in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a home >> they had had in their inventory for too long. ?They followed the book >> exactly. ?It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in all >> the time they held it. >> >> And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other homes >> in their inventory. >> >> Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the 5-Day >> Method. ?They sell to the top bidder every time. ?Some of their homes are >> sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home. >> >> When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals using >> the 5-Day Method in their area. ?Now, he says all of his competitors are >> using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it was >> not being used by all professionals, all over the country. ?He can't imagine >> his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over >> time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all professional >> home sellers. >> >> As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals. ?Originally I >> developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their >> current value. ?It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of >> determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were pricing >> at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no >> responses as a result. >> >> If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is why >> I changed to this formulation. ?Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting price >> is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to attract a >> sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers. >> >> It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest possible >> price. ?Only if you price too high do you fail to get a sufficient number of >> real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of >> initial responses. >> >> I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play the >> method by the book. ?I believe the professionals on this list do the FSBOs a >> disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals that >> are known to not work for FSBOs. >> >> I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can get >> more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided only >> that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder. >> >> Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum who >> spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions over >> and over. ?The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members who >> never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for all the >> work done by permanent Forum members. ?I should mention it more often. >> >> Thanks to all of you, >> >> Bill Effros >> Author >> >> >> >> rosemarie-fred wrote: >> >> Tim - >> If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers. >> It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day >> sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following >> the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following >> this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they >> tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using common >> sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could >> advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can >> live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless. ?Perhaps it's the >> competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love >> with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It >> happens! >> Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim. >> It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you. >> Rosemarie >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Tim Dever >> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >> >> Suzie, >> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull >> of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices >> indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king >> and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is >> standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my >> home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum. >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" wrote: >> >> If I were you ?listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in >> the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real >> estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into >> Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program >> doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a >> realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise >> on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go >> for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they >> always get that? >> >> Susie >> >> From: >> 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] >> On Behalf Of Tim Dever >> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM >> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >> >> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist. ?I do not >> see any potential in this program whatsoever. ?I still contend that price >> has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge >> of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have >> the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil >> here. ?The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive. ?Its that >> simple. ?Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too >> thin. ?I had high hopes for this program. ?I think I am going to now list on >> the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent. ?I will >> let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a >> few thousand is there if they line up a buyer. ?This way I will have them >> all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the >> punch. >> >> Tim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Janetislight at aol.com >> >> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM >> >> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >> >> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. ?So, I'm at 6/25. >> Nothing from Craig's List. ?Four from signs and two from newspaper ads. ?I >> will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls. >> >> Janet >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! >> >> ________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> >> ________________________________ >> >> I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter. >> We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. >> SPAMfighter has removed 2375 of my spam emails to date. >> The Professional version does not have this message. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >> database 4189 (20090625) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >> database 4191 (20090626) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> >> ________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> >> ________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > From jw012000 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 19:09:13 2009 From: jw012000 at gmail.com (Jennifer Wang) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:09:13 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Will this work? In-Reply-To: <4d0090bd0907011036g5af2d523g1a5581c41f25bf17@mail.gmail.com> References: <4d0090bd0907010947u708d37d7pdb7757453aed3736@mail.gmail.com> <111345.66206.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4d0090bd0907011036g5af2d523g1a5581c41f25bf17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4d0090bd0907011609j51715fddu8d8c2a2c5280e4cf@mail.gmail.com> when should I give the exact address? How do I screen a potential buyer before I give the exact address of the house? On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Jennifer Wang wrote: > Dac, > > Thanks for the comments. To answer your comments: > > (1) the whole comprise I came up with is to avoid have to sell the > house on Sunday night if a desire number does not come. ( I have all > the faith in bill's method, but my io is not as certain as me. ) > > (2) I shall modify my practice to this: I would inform the Realtors of > the bidding method and all bids are evaluated on a net to the seller > basis; and I would be happy to add their fees to the final bid if > their client is the highest bidder. > > Jennifer > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Damian Colden wrote: >> >> Comments: >> >> (1) In the MLS comments section I would state that the house WILL be sold on Sunday night. >> >> (3) Why give the non-represented a 2.25% discount. >> >> Dac Colden >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Jennifer Wang >> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:47:28 PM >> Subject: [5-DayForum] Will this work? >> >> Bill and folks, >> >> I am a big fan of Bill's 5 day methods, however, my io insists using >> traditional methods. So, I would use a compromise describe below. Now >> I am speculating whether it is going to work: >> >> (1) To list the house at $549,500 on mls, realtors.com, etc. It is a >> very good price, but not half price. In the message section, I am >> going to put "Round Robin on Sunday 07/12. ?Bidding will start at >> $XXX,XXX (one-half the list price)." >> (2) On Craigslist, list starting bid as half of the price to attract >> crowd. We are at Secaucus(only 5 minutes to Lincoln Tunnel). >> According to bill, craigslist alone is going to attract enough crowd >> at NY metropolitan area. >> (3) Open for inspection on Saturday(7/11) and Sunday(7/12). Run the >> round-robin bidding on Sunday night. Give 2.25% commission to buyers >> agent and ?give 2.25% discount to individuals without agents. >> (5) If the top 3 does not meet our desired price, we are going to tell >> them and ask whether they are willing to match and buy the house with >> our price. >> (6) If a deal is made Sunday night , sign the contract with them >> Monday or Wednesday morning. >> >> Will that work? >> >> Jennifer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Bill Effros wrote: >>> Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals, >>> >>> I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host whose >>> firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they believe >>> they can sell them for. >>> >>> In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, somebody >>> in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a home >>> they had had in their inventory for too long. ?They followed the book >>> exactly. ?It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in all >>> the time they held it. >>> >>> And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other homes >>> in their inventory. >>> >>> Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the 5-Day >>> Method. ?They sell to the top bidder every time. ?Some of their homes are >>> sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home. >>> >>> When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals using >>> the 5-Day Method in their area. ?Now, he says all of his competitors are >>> using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it was >>> not being used by all professionals, all over the country. ?He can't imagine >>> his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over >>> time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all professional >>> home sellers. >>> >>> As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals. ?Originally I >>> developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their >>> current value. ?It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of >>> determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were pricing >>> at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no >>> responses as a result. >>> >>> If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is why >>> I changed to this formulation. ?Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting price >>> is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to attract a >>> sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers. >>> >>> It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest possible >>> price. ?Only if you price too high do you fail to get a sufficient number of >>> real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of >>> initial responses. >>> >>> I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play the >>> method by the book. ?I believe the professionals on this list do the FSBOs a >>> disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals that >>> are known to not work for FSBOs. >>> >>> I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can get >>> more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided only >>> that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder. >>> >>> Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum who >>> spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions over >>> and over. ?The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members who >>> never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for all the >>> work done by permanent Forum members. ?I should mention it more often. >>> >>> Thanks to all of you, >>> >>> Bill Effros >>> Author >>> >>> >>> >>> rosemarie-fred wrote: >>> >>> Tim - >>> If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers. >>> It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day >>> sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following >>> the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following >>> this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they >>> tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using common >>> sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could >>> advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can >>> live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless. ?Perhaps it's the >>> competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love >>> with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It >>> happens! >>> Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim. >>> It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you. >>> Rosemarie >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Tim Dever >>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM >>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>> >>> Suzie, >>> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull >>> of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices >>> indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king >>> and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is >>> standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my >>> home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum. >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" wrote: >>> >>> If I were you ?listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in >>> the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real >>> estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into >>> Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program >>> doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a >>> realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise >>> on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go >>> for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they >>> always get that? >>> >>> Susie >>> >>> From: >>> 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] >>> On Behalf Of Tim Dever >>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM >>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>> >>> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist. ?I do not >>> see any potential in this program whatsoever. ?I still contend that price >>> has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge >>> of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have >>> the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil >>> here. ?The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive. ?Its that >>> simple. ?Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too >>> thin. ?I had high hopes for this program. ?I think I am going to now list on >>> the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent. ?I will >>> let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a >>> few thousand is there if they line up a buyer. ?This way I will have them >>> all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the >>> punch. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: Janetislight at aol.com >>> >>> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM >>> >>> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>> >>> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. ?So, I'm at 6/25. >>> Nothing from Craig's List. ?Four from signs and two from newspaper ads. ?I >>> will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls. >>> >>> Janet >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter. >>> We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. >>> SPAMfighter has removed 2375 of my spam emails to date. >>> The Professional version does not have this message. >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >>> database 4189 (20090625) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >>> database 4191 (20090626) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> > From jw012000 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 20:09:53 2009 From: jw012000 at gmail.com (Jennifer Wang) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:09:53 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] what trouble I am getting myself into? Message-ID: <4d0090bd0907011709y7438d4b4kcdaff1a8c59201d9@mail.gmail.com> Tom or any NJ realtors and your experienced folks, Tell me what kind of trouble I am getting myself into. I met a NJ realtor today and ask her to please list my house with $xxx,xxx and then in the description section put: Round Robin 07/12, bidding starts on $xxx,xxx (half of the listing price). She refused to do that. (a) She told me that even put "bidding" there is not legitimate unless I have a writing from an attorney. (b) she told me that I was putting 2 prices in mls which is not legitimate. So, can I use the word "bidding" at all? even at craigslist? What kind of trouble am I getting myself into? If I do an open end bidding (i.e., I do not say : will sell the house on Sunday night), am I getting myself into some sort of trouble? What kind of trouble I am getting myself into? Thanks, Jennifer --------------------------------------- Tom Hoffman tomhoffman at live.com Sat May 30 13:42:25 EDT 2009 Previous message: [5-DayForum] MLS Next message: [5-DayForum] Re 5 day sale results(my first choice?) Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Kyle for your input. I have been on this forum a long time and have done many five day sales in several different states and not once, even having been and am a Realtor(16+ years), placed a 5 day sale in the mls. Realtors don't get buyers from the MLS, they get buyers from marketing, marketing and marketing. The MLS is for Brokers to share property information and use the information to take their buyers who they got through marketing to those properties. If you want Brokers to bring their buyers then you need to figure out a way to pay them. I would not call a plumber or carpenter or painter and ask to borrow their tools nor would I ask to rent their tools. One more short lesson in reality, I as a Realtor, would not take my buyer to a FSBO unless they specifically asked because 1. I end up doing twice the work for half the pay because.... I am involved in the transaction the seller thinks the Realtor should handle the whole transaction and all of the liability. Some errors and omissions policiies have limitation on FSBO's 2.It has been my experience that FSBO's often have something to hide. There have been several writers on this forum asking when should the seller disclose defects or if they should disclose. There are other reasons and experiences I could share but the forum isn't long enough. OK. Now how do I or would I market to Realtors. I would save the money on the mls and make flyers or personal invitations to the Realtors within a 10 mile radius of the property. I would inform the Realtors of the bidding method and let them know all bids are evaluated on a net to the seller basis and that you would be happy to ad their fees to the final bid if their client is the highest bidder. It sounds like you are doing the internet, I do a great deal of marketing with POSTLETs and they distribute to many of the other sites. The last tip is to get laser specific about what the buyer for your property will look like. Age, education, income,habits, hobbies etc and direct your marketing and flyers specifically to them. The time you spend brainstorming about what the buyer or buyers look like will pay big dividend at sale time. Good luck, Tom Hoffman- Broker/Owner Top Priority Realty,LLC Licensed in Colorado >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Jennifer Wang >>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:47:28 PM >>> Subject: [5-DayForum] Will this work? >>> >>> Bill and folks, >>> >>> I am a big fan of Bill's 5 day methods, however, my io insists using >>> traditional methods. So, I would use a compromise describe below. Now >>> I am speculating whether it is going to work: >>> >>> (1) To list the house at $549,500 on mls, realtors.com, etc. It is a >>> very good price, but not half price. In the message section, I am >>> going to put "Round Robin on Sunday 07/12. ?Bidding will start at >>> $XXX,XXX (one-half the list price)." >>> (2) On Craigslist, list starting bid as half of the price to attract >>> crowd. We are at Secaucus(only 5 minutes to Lincoln Tunnel). >>> According to bill, craigslist alone is going to attract enough crowd >>> at NY metropolitan area. >>> (3) Open for inspection on Saturday(7/11) and Sunday(7/12). Run the >>> round-robin bidding on Sunday night. Give 2.25% commission to buyers >>> agent and ?give 2.25% discount to individuals without agents. >>> (5) If the top 3 does not meet our desired price, we are going to tell >>> them and ask whether they are willing to match and buy the house with >>> our price. >>> (6) If a deal is made Sunday night , sign the contract with them >>> Monday or Wednesday morning. >>> >>> Will that work? >>> >>> Jennifer >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Bill Effros wrote: >>>> Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals, >>>> >>>> I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host whose >>>> firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they believe >>>> they can sell them for. >>>> >>>> In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, somebody >>>> in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a home >>>> they had had in their inventory for too long. ?They followed the book >>>> exactly. ?It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in all >>>> the time they held it. >>>> >>>> And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other homes >>>> in their inventory. >>>> >>>> Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the 5-Day >>>> Method. ?They sell to the top bidder every time. ?Some of their homes are >>>> sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home. >>>> >>>> When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals using >>>> the 5-Day Method in their area. ?Now, he says all of his competitors are >>>> using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it was >>>> not being used by all professionals, all over the country. ?He can't imagine >>>> his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over >>>> time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all professional >>>> home sellers. >>>> >>>> As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals. ?Originally I >>>> developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their >>>> current value. ?It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of >>>> determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were pricing >>>> at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no >>>> responses as a result. >>>> >>>> If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is why >>>> I changed to this formulation. ?Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting price >>>> is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to attract a >>>> sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers. >>>> >>>> It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest possible >>>> price. ?Only if you price too high do you fail to get a sufficient number of >>>> real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of >>>> initial responses. >>>> >>>> I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play the >>>> method by the book. ?I believe the professionals on this list do the FSBOs a >>>> disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals that >>>> are known to not work for FSBOs. >>>> >>>> I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can get >>>> more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided only >>>> that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder. >>>> >>>> Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum who >>>> spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions over >>>> and over. ?The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members who >>>> never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for all the >>>> work done by permanent Forum members. ?I should mention it more often. >>>> >>>> Thanks to all of you, >>>> >>>> Bill Effros >>>> Author >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> rosemarie-fred wrote: >>>> >>>> Tim - >>>> If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers. >>>> It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day >>>> sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following >>>> the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following >>>> this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they >>>> tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using common >>>> sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could >>>> advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can >>>> live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless. ?Perhaps it's the >>>> competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love >>>> with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It >>>> happens! >>>> Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim. >>>> It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you. >>>> Rosemarie >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Tim Dever >>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>> >>>> Suzie, >>>> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull >>>> of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices >>>> indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king >>>> and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is >>>> standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my >>>> home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum. >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" wrote: >>>> >>>> If I were you ?listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in >>>> the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real >>>> estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into >>>> Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program >>>> doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a >>>> realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise >>>> on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go >>>> for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they >>>> always get that? >>>> >>>> Susie >>>> >>>> From: >>>> 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Tim Dever >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM >>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>> >>>> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist. ?I do not >>>> see any potential in this program whatsoever. ?I still contend that price >>>> has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge >>>> of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have >>>> the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil >>>> here. ?The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive. ?Its that >>>> simple. ?Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too >>>> thin. ?I had high hopes for this program. ?I think I am going to now list on >>>> the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent. ?I will >>>> let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a >>>> few thousand is there if they line up a buyer. ?This way I will have them >>>> all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the >>>> punch. >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> From: Janetislight at aol.com >>>> >>>> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM >>>> >>>> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>> >>>> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. ?So, I'm at 6/25. >>>> Nothing from Craig's List. ?Four from signs and two from newspaper ads. ?I >>>> will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls. >>>> >>>> Janet >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter. >>>> We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. >>>> SPAMfighter has removed 2375 of my spam emails to date. >>>> The Professional version does not have this message. >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >>>> database 4189 (20090625) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >>>> database 4191 (20090626) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >> > From jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 20:30:55 2009 From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com (James Fleming) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:30:55 -0700 Subject: [5-DayForum] what trouble I am getting myself into? In-Reply-To: <4d0090bd0907011709y7438d4b4kcdaff1a8c59201d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <4d0090bd0907011709y7438d4b4kcdaff1a8c59201d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: There are numerous Realtors in NJ who have done 5-day sales. The Realtor you contacted sounds to be either confused or misunderstands what you are planning. In any event, whether you use a Realtor or not, you would be wise to invest some time studying the archive of this forum. It is rich with information about conducting 5-day sales in NJ. Take your time, read all the threads, re-read Bill's book. This is not an event to rush into partially prepared. There are advantages and disadvantages to working with a Realtor just as there are advantages and disadvantages to trying to sell your house on your own. The good news is that a successful 5-day sale can be accomplished in either case. James Fleming NAR Short Sale Manager, Principal Fleming Realty Group | Keller Williams Premier Partners Realty 915 Broadway, First Floor, Vancouver WA 98660 ' 360.771.3003 | 7 360.702.0777 * jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com www.ShortSaleBulldog.com -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Wang Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:10 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] what trouble I am getting myself into? Tom or any NJ realtors and your experienced folks, Tell me what kind of trouble I am getting myself into. I met a NJ realtor today and ask her to please list my house with $xxx,xxx and then in the description section put: Round Robin 07/12, bidding starts on $xxx,xxx (half of the listing price). She refused to do that. (a) She told me that even put "bidding" there is not legitimate unless I have a writing from an attorney. (b) she told me that I was putting 2 prices in mls which is not legitimate. So, can I use the word "bidding" at all? even at craigslist? What kind of trouble am I getting myself into? If I do an open end bidding (i.e., I do not say : will sell the house on Sunday night), am I getting myself into some sort of trouble? What kind of trouble I am getting myself into? Thanks, Jennifer --------------------------------------- Tom Hoffman tomhoffman at live.com Sat May 30 13:42:25 EDT 2009 Previous message: [5-DayForum] MLS Next message: [5-DayForum] Re 5 day sale results(my first choice?) Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Thanks Kyle for your input. I have been on this forum a long time and have done many five day sales in several different states and not once, even having been and am a Realtor(16+ years), placed a 5 day sale in the mls. Realtors don't get buyers from the MLS, they get buyers from marketing, marketing and marketing. The MLS is for Brokers to share property information and use the information to take their buyers who they got through marketing to those properties. If you want Brokers to bring their buyers then you need to figure out a way to pay them. I would not call a plumber or carpenter or painter and ask to borrow their tools nor would I ask to rent their tools. One more short lesson in reality, I as a Realtor, would not take my buyer to a FSBO unless they specifically asked because 1. I end up doing twice the work for half the pay because.... I am involved in the transaction the seller thinks the Realtor should handle the whole transaction and all of the liability. Some errors and omissions policiies have limitation on FSBO's 2.It has been my experience that FSBO's often have something to hide. There have been several writers on this forum asking when should the seller disclose defects or if they should disclose. There are other reasons and experiences I could share but the forum isn't long enough. OK. Now how do I or would I market to Realtors. I would save the money on the mls and make flyers or personal invitations to the Realtors within a 10 mile radius of the property. I would inform the Realtors of the bidding method and let them know all bids are evaluated on a net to the seller basis and that you would be happy to ad their fees to the final bid if their client is the highest bidder. It sounds like you are doing the internet, I do a great deal of marketing with POSTLETs and they distribute to many of the other sites. The last tip is to get laser specific about what the buyer for your property will look like. Age, education, income,habits, hobbies etc and direct your marketing and flyers specifically to them. The time you spend brainstorming about what the buyer or buyers look like will pay big dividend at sale time. Good luck, Tom Hoffman- Broker/Owner Top Priority Realty,LLC Licensed in Colorado >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Jennifer Wang >>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:47:28 PM >>> Subject: [5-DayForum] Will this work? >>> >>> Bill and folks, >>> >>> I am a big fan of Bill's 5 day methods, however, my io insists using >>> traditional methods. So, I would use a compromise describe below. Now >>> I am speculating whether it is going to work: >>> >>> (1) To list the house at $549,500 on mls, realtors.com, etc. It is a >>> very good price, but not half price. In the message section, I am >>> going to put "Round Robin on Sunday 07/12. ?Bidding will start at >>> $XXX,XXX (one-half the list price)." >>> (2) On Craigslist, list starting bid as half of the price to attract >>> crowd. We are at Secaucus(only 5 minutes to Lincoln Tunnel). >>> According to bill, craigslist alone is going to attract enough crowd >>> at NY metropolitan area. >>> (3) Open for inspection on Saturday(7/11) and Sunday(7/12). Run the >>> round-robin bidding on Sunday night. Give 2.25% commission to buyers >>> agent and ?give 2.25% discount to individuals without agents. >>> (5) If the top 3 does not meet our desired price, we are going to tell >>> them and ask whether they are willing to match and buy the house with >>> our price. >>> (6) If a deal is made Sunday night , sign the contract with them >>> Monday or Wednesday morning. >>> >>> Will that work? >>> >>> Jennifer >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Bill Effros wrote: >>>> Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals, >>>> >>>> I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host whose >>>> firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they believe >>>> they can sell them for. >>>> >>>> In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, somebody >>>> in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a home >>>> they had had in their inventory for too long. ?They followed the book >>>> exactly. ?It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in all >>>> the time they held it. >>>> >>>> And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other homes >>>> in their inventory. >>>> >>>> Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the 5-Day >>>> Method. ?They sell to the top bidder every time. ?Some of their homes are >>>> sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home. >>>> >>>> When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals using >>>> the 5-Day Method in their area. ?Now, he says all of his competitors are >>>> using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it was >>>> not being used by all professionals, all over the country. ?He can't imagine >>>> his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over >>>> time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all professional >>>> home sellers. >>>> >>>> As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals. ?Originally I >>>> developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their >>>> current value. ?It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of >>>> determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were pricing >>>> at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no >>>> responses as a result. >>>> >>>> If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is why >>>> I changed to this formulation. ?Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting price >>>> is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to attract a >>>> sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers. >>>> >>>> It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest possible >>>> price. ?Only if you price too high do you fail to get a sufficient number of >>>> real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of >>>> initial responses. >>>> >>>> I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play the >>>> method by the book. ?I believe the professionals on this list do the FSBOs a >>>> disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals that >>>> are known to not work for FSBOs. >>>> >>>> I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can get >>>> more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided only >>>> that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder. >>>> >>>> Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum who >>>> spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions over >>>> and over. ?The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members who >>>> never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for all the >>>> work done by permanent Forum members. ?I should mention it more often. >>>> >>>> Thanks to all of you, >>>> >>>> Bill Effros >>>> Author >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> rosemarie-fred wrote: >>>> >>>> Tim - >>>> If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers. >>>> It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day >>>> sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following >>>> the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following >>>> this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they >>>> tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using common >>>> sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could >>>> advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can >>>> live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless. ?Perhaps it's the >>>> competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love >>>> with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It >>>> happens! >>>> Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim. >>>> It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you. >>>> Rosemarie >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Tim Dever >>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>> >>>> Suzie, >>>> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull >>>> of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices >>>> indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king >>>> and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is >>>> standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my >>>> home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum. >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" wrote: >>>> >>>> If I were you ?listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in >>>> the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real >>>> estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into >>>> Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program >>>> doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a >>>> realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise >>>> on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go >>>> for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they >>>> always get that >>>> >>>> Susie >>>> >>>> From: >>>> 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Tim Dever >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM >>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>> >>>> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist. ?I do not >>>> see any potential in this program whatsoever. ?I still contend that price >>>> has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge >>>> of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have >>>> the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil >>>> here. ?The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive. ?Its that >>>> simple. ?Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too >>>> thin. ?I had high hopes for this program. ?I think I am going to now list on >>>> the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent. ?I will >>>> let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a >>>> few thousand is there if they line up a buyer. ?This way I will have them >>>> all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the >>>> punch. >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> From: Janetislight at aol.com >>>> >>>> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM >>>> >>>> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>> >>>> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. ?So, I'm at 6/25. >>>> Nothing from Craig's List. ?Four from signs and two from newspaper ads. ?I >>>> will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls. >>>> >>>> Janet >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter. >>>> We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. >>>> SPAMfighter has removed 2375 of my spam emails to date. >>>> The Professional version does not have this message. >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >>>> database 4189 (20090625) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >>>> database 4191 (20090626) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >> > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com Thu Jul 2 09:50:48 2009 From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:50:48 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] what trouble I am getting myself into? References: <4d0090bd0907011709y7438d4b4kcdaff1a8c59201d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jennifer- What you are proposing to do is NOT a 5-day sale. You have changed the basics so much that you have created something else. It may work - who knows? What we do know is that Bill's system works. None of us can do any better than a guess at whether your "new" system will work, and none of us here can give you legal advice. If you want to know how the 5-day system works, and want advice on that, we are here to offer our experiences to you. I second the advice to read the archives and re-read the book. You are asking an impossible question here. Sorry we cannot answer it for you, Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Wang" To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] what trouble I am getting myself into? Tom or any NJ realtors and your experienced folks, Tell me what kind of trouble I am getting myself into. I met a NJ realtor today and ask her to please list my house with $xxx,xxx and then in the description section put: Round Robin 07/12, bidding starts on $xxx,xxx (half of the listing price). She refused to do that. (a) She told me that even put "bidding" there is not legitimate unless I have a writing from an attorney. (b) she told me that I was putting 2 prices in mls which is not legitimate. So, can I use the word "bidding" at all? even at craigslist? What kind of trouble am I getting myself into? If I do an open end bidding (i.e., I do not say : will sell the house on Sunday night), am I getting myself into some sort of trouble? What kind of trouble I am getting myself into? Thanks, Jennifer --------------------------------------- Tom Hoffman tomhoffman at live.com Sat May 30 13:42:25 EDT 2009 Previous message: [5-DayForum] MLS Next message: [5-DayForum] Re 5 day sale results(my first choice?) Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Kyle for your input. I have been on this forum a long time and have done many five day sales in several different states and not once, even having been and am a Realtor(16+ years), placed a 5 day sale in the mls. Realtors don't get buyers from the MLS, they get buyers from marketing, marketing and marketing. The MLS is for Brokers to share property information and use the information to take their buyers who they got through marketing to those properties. If you want Brokers to bring their buyers then you need to figure out a way to pay them. I would not call a plumber or carpenter or painter and ask to borrow their tools nor would I ask to rent their tools. One more short lesson in reality, I as a Realtor, would not take my buyer to a FSBO unless they specifically asked because 1. I end up doing twice the work for half the pay because.... I am involved in the transaction the seller thinks the Realtor should handle the whole transaction and all of the liability. Some errors and omissions policiies have limitation on FSBO's 2.It has been my experience that FSBO's often have something to hide. There have been several writers on this forum asking when should the seller disclose defects or if they should disclose. There are other reasons and experiences I could share but the forum isn't long enough. OK. Now how do I or would I market to Realtors. I would save the money on the mls and make flyers or personal invitations to the Realtors within a 10 mile radius of the property. I would inform the Realtors of the bidding method and let them know all bids are evaluated on a net to the seller basis and that you would be happy to ad their fees to the final bid if their client is the highest bidder. It sounds like you are doing the internet, I do a great deal of marketing with POSTLETs and they distribute to many of the other sites. The last tip is to get laser specific about what the buyer for your property will look like. Age, education, income,habits, hobbies etc and direct your marketing and flyers specifically to them. The time you spend brainstorming about what the buyer or buyers look like will pay big dividend at sale time. Good luck, Tom Hoffman- Broker/Owner Top Priority Realty,LLC Licensed in Colorado >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Jennifer Wang >>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>> <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:47:28 PM >>> Subject: [5-DayForum] Will this work? >>> >>> Bill and folks, >>> >>> I am a big fan of Bill's 5 day methods, however, my io insists using >>> traditional methods. So, I would use a compromise describe below. Now >>> I am speculating whether it is going to work: >>> >>> (1) To list the house at $549,500 on mls, realtors.com, etc. It is a >>> very good price, but not half price. In the message section, I am >>> going to put "Round Robin on Sunday 07/12. Bidding will start at >>> $XXX,XXX (one-half the list price)." >>> (2) On Craigslist, list starting bid as half of the price to attract >>> crowd. We are at Secaucus(only 5 minutes to Lincoln Tunnel). >>> According to bill, craigslist alone is going to attract enough crowd >>> at NY metropolitan area. >>> (3) Open for inspection on Saturday(7/11) and Sunday(7/12). Run the >>> round-robin bidding on Sunday night. Give 2.25% commission to buyers >>> agent and give 2.25% discount to individuals without agents. >>> (5) If the top 3 does not meet our desired price, we are going to tell >>> them and ask whether they are willing to match and buy the house with >>> our price. >>> (6) If a deal is made Sunday night , sign the contract with them >>> Monday or Wednesday morning. >>> >>> Will that work? >>> >>> Jennifer >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Bill Effros wrote: >>>> Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals, >>>> >>>> I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host >>>> whose >>>> firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they >>>> believe >>>> they can sell them for. >>>> >>>> In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, >>>> somebody >>>> in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a >>>> home >>>> they had had in their inventory for too long. They followed the book >>>> exactly. It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in >>>> all >>>> the time they held it. >>>> >>>> And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other >>>> homes >>>> in their inventory. >>>> >>>> Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the >>>> 5-Day >>>> Method. They sell to the top bidder every time. Some of their homes are >>>> sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home. >>>> >>>> When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals >>>> using >>>> the 5-Day Method in their area. Now, he says all of his competitors are >>>> using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it >>>> was >>>> not being used by all professionals, all over the country. He can't >>>> imagine >>>> his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, >>>> over >>>> time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all >>>> professional >>>> home sellers. >>>> >>>> As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals. Originally I >>>> developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their >>>> current value. It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of >>>> determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were >>>> pricing >>>> at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no >>>> responses as a result. >>>> >>>> If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is >>>> why >>>> I changed to this formulation. Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting >>>> price >>>> is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to >>>> attract a >>>> sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers. >>>> >>>> It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest >>>> possible >>>> price. Only if you price too high do you fail to get a sufficient >>>> number of >>>> real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of >>>> initial responses. >>>> >>>> I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play >>>> the >>>> method by the book. I believe the professionals on this list do the >>>> FSBOs a >>>> disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals >>>> that >>>> are known to not work for FSBOs. >>>> >>>> I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can >>>> get >>>> more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided >>>> only >>>> that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder. >>>> >>>> Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum >>>> who >>>> spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions >>>> over >>>> and over. The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members >>>> who >>>> never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for >>>> all the >>>> work done by permanent Forum members. I should mention it more often. >>>> >>>> Thanks to all of you, >>>> >>>> Bill Effros >>>> Author >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> rosemarie-fred wrote: >>>> >>>> Tim - >>>> If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers. >>>> It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the >>>> 5-day >>>> sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not >>>> following >>>> the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been >>>> following >>>> this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they >>>> tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using >>>> common >>>> sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you >>>> could >>>> advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you >>>> can >>>> live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless. Perhaps it's the >>>> competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in >>>> love >>>> with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It >>>> happens! >>>> Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to >>>> Tim. >>>> It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you. >>>> Rosemarie >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Tim Dever >>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>> >>>> Suzie, >>>> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a >>>> handfull >>>> of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices >>>> indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is >>>> king >>>> and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent >>>> is >>>> standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my >>>> home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum. >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" wrote: >>>> >>>> If I were you listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff >>>> in >>>> the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for >>>> real >>>> estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look >>>> into >>>> Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this >>>> program >>>> doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a >>>> realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and >>>> advertise >>>> on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always >>>> go >>>> for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they >>>> always get that? >>>> >>>> Susie >>>> >>>> From: >>>> 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Tim Dever >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM >>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>> >>>> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist. I do >>>> not >>>> see any potential in this program whatsoever. I still contend that >>>> price >>>> has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any >>>> knowledge >>>> of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only >>>> have >>>> the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil >>>> here. The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive. Its >>>> that >>>> simple. Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way >>>> too >>>> thin. I had high hopes for this program. I think I am going to now list >>>> on >>>> the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent. I >>>> will >>>> let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of >>>> a >>>> few thousand is there if they line up a buyer. This way I will have >>>> them >>>> all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the >>>> punch. >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> From: Janetislight at aol.com >>>> >>>> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM >>>> >>>> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>> >>>> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. So, I'm at >>>> 6/25. >>>> Nothing from Craig's List. Four from signs and two from newspaper ads. >>>> I >>>> will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls. >>>> >>>> Janet >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter. >>>> We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. >>>> SPAMfighter has removed 2375 of my spam emails to date. >>>> The Professional version does not have this message. >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>> signature >>>> database 4189 (20090625) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>> signature >>>> database 4191 (20090626) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >> > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From jcrafor at hotmail.com Thu Jul 2 11:02:46 2009 From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:02:46 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home? In-Reply-To: <015701c9f9e5$bfd93540$3f8b9fc0$@com> References: <015701c9f9e5$bfd93540$3f8b9fc0$@com> Message-ID: It wouyld seem to me that you need to make that clear when people call or email. Whatever, when you do respond, either send them a map or tell them where to get one, even a mapquest one, so they can see. If you use zillow for your address directions, they too provide a clear map (for my area) just be sure you let people know of the parking situation. JCrafor From: susies07 at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:49:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home? That won?t do either. Little narrow streets. I can park 3 cars at the most. 1 in my drive and 2 across the street which is one lane. It will be obvious that parking is a problem. From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:48 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home? Is it far from a cross street that people can park on? Janet In a message dated 6/30/2009 2:07:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I am concerned as my house is by far the most updated and nicest in a not so nice neighborhood but great access to downtown, college and retirement center. Also re: directions, it is very hard to turn around on my street, houses built early 1900?s and it?s a dead end with no real turn around and parking is limited. What are your thoughts? Signed, Please help From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of j crafor Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:58 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home? Why would you follow everything else exactly, and ignore that one? One goal is to get as many people at the house at the same time, and Bill makes that very clear in the book. The exact address is given late Fri or early Saturday so people come Sat, not WED. You might give the subdivision name, or the main street corners, and maybe people will drive to the subdivision and look around, but still not see the house... When I did mine, I called or emailed late Friday. JCrafor From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:02:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home? I would give them the address when they call. If they drive by, that's OK, isn't it? They may decide not to show up on Saturday, but that's the way it goes - they wouldn't have been your buyer in that case. If they drive by and like the neighborhood, like the house, they will be excited to come and make a bid at the weekend. Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: Aaron Stokes To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] Giving Directions to Home? When do you give directions to the home? Do you tell the prospects on wed night? Or do you wait until the friday before and call everyone? I would suspect some will come early and try to look at the home atleast from the street..... 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I put a lockbox from home depot on my door, which I had, rather than paying the $100 for a "real" approved mls keybox. I just got a ote from the listor that they can't refer to it even on the agents info, so tha agents apparently have to call the listor. I hope he is available and gives the info. Maybe I just gave $400 for nothing... I've asked for more info, but I may have to choose between no reference to a code box, or paying the $100 bucks for one. Even with the flat fee listing, I'm getting few calls on the house. There is very little movement here, at least in my area. And yes, I'm on craigslist. I'll change that to reflest there is a keybox, and will change my realtor.com one, and others, too, to reflect that. This is the "warning" the flat fee listor says they got. JCrafor Per MLS Rules and Regulations, Participant shall not indicate a property has a Keybox until the approved Keybox has physically been placed on the property. Only the approved keybox may be represented in the MLS. The only reference to a Keybox that is permitted in MLS is for the Board approved Keybox. The only Board approved keybox at this time is the iBox from GE/Supra. References to combination boxes or contractor boxes are not allowed. This includes statements such as call for code, etc. If there is no iBox on the listing, the MLS input should state TAR/MLS Keysafe = NO, with no other references to a box, codes, etc. in the MLS. Violation of this rule is subject to a minimum fine of $100.00 any ideas? Jcrafor _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Listing Price: Seller intructs Broker to market the Property at the following Listing Price: $_______. Seller agrees to sell the Property for the Listing Price or any other price acceptable to Seller. B. (2) Broker individually or in cooperation with another Broker procures a Buyer, ready, willing, and able to purchase the property at the Listing Price and on terms stated in Paragraph 3 or at any other price and on terms acceptable to Seller. In my experience, most Realtors haven't read the contract and would not agree with the bold print. RC Cutcher Realtor, Broker Austin Texas Homes, LLC www.austintexashomes.com 512-848-4449 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090702/43acae62/attachment.html From susies07 at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 20:18:01 2009 From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:18:01 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 28, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <148779.85386.qm@web39103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <148779.85386.qm@web39103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00c101c9fd06$0f6afa30$2e40ee90$@com> How did you get it in the mls? What did it cost? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Xinfa Ma Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:15 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 28, Issue 2 I finished my 5-day sale in Metro Boston with a success. The only thing makes people confusing is "low listing price" at MLS. I wish I had used the suggestion in this email reagrding to MLS listing suggestion: List the full price, start bid at half. 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Today's Topics: 1. Re: Giving Directions to Home? (Aaron Stokes) 2. Will this work? (Jennifer Wang) 3. Re: Will this work? (Damian Colden) 4. Re: Will this work? (Jennifer Wang) 5. Re: Will this work? (Jennifer Wang) 6. what trouble I am getting myself into? (Jennifer Wang) 7. Re: what trouble I am getting myself into? (James Fleming) 8. Re: what trouble I am getting myself into? (rosemarie-fred) 9. Re: Giving Directions to Home? (j crafor) 10. Re: Flat fee listing (j crafor) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4217 (20090704) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090704/0bbd79ec/attachment.html From jw012000 at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 00:14:01 2009 From: jw012000 at gmail.com (Jennifer Wang) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 00:14:01 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] what trouble I am getting myself into? In-Reply-To: References: <4d0090bd0907011709y7438d4b4kcdaff1a8c59201d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4d0090bd0907042114o134637b0n6cc5d95bbb062003@mail.gmail.com> Rosemarie, I do not agree with you that I have "changed the basic so much". I only did 2 changes and one of the change idea I got by reading the forum. (1) I read people on the forum using mls and giving agent fee. Also, some people with realtor background gave advise on how to do the 5 day sale wording in the mls. I was simple following their advises: put full price on the listing price and in the comments area put "round robin sale and bidding starts at $xxx,xxx (half of the listing price). (2) In the forum, a lot people are not comfortable of "the house WILL sell on Sunday night". So, instead of biting my tong and saying " the house WILL sell to the highest bidder" while I do not really mean it. I decide not to say that. Still, I like the idea of giving people a chance to bid the house. I will tell people that we definitely look to sell the house and maybe more which I will add after I re-read the book and the forum. Jennifer. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:50 AM, rosemarie-fred wrote: > Jennifer- > What you are proposing to do is NOT a 5-day sale. You have changed the > basics so much that you have created something else. It may work - who > knows? What we do know is that Bill's system works. None of us can do any > better than a guess at whether your "new" system will work, and none of us > here can give you legal advice. > If you want to know how the 5-day system works, and want advice on that, we > are here to offer our experiences to you. > I second the advice to read the archives and re-read the book. > You are asking an impossible question here. Sorry we cannot answer it for > you, > Rosemarie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer Wang" > To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" > <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:09 PM > Subject: [5-DayForum] what trouble I am getting myself into? > > > Tom or any NJ realtors and your experienced folks, > > Tell me what kind of trouble I am getting myself into. > > I met a NJ realtor today and ask her to please list my house with > $xxx,xxx and then in the description section put: Round Robin 07/12, > bidding starts on $xxx,xxx (half of the listing price). She refused to > do that. (a) She told me that even put "bidding" there is not > legitimate unless I have a writing from an attorney. (b) she told me > that I was putting 2 prices in mls which is not legitimate. > > So, can I use the word "bidding" at all? even at craigslist? What kind > of trouble am I getting myself into? > > If I do an open end bidding (i.e., I do not say : will sell the house > on Sunday night), am I getting myself into some sort of trouble? What > kind of trouble I am getting myself into? > > Thanks, > Jennifer > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > Tom Hoffman tomhoffman at live.com > Sat May 30 13:42:25 EDT 2009 > > Previous message: [5-DayForum] MLS > Next message: [5-DayForum] Re 5 day sale results(my first choice?) > Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks Kyle for your input. I have been on this forum a long time and > have done many five day sales in several different states and not > once, even having been and am a Realtor(16+ years), placed a 5 day > sale in the mls. Realtors don't get buyers from the MLS, they get > buyers from marketing, marketing and marketing. The MLS is for Brokers > ?to share property information and use the information to take their > buyers who they got through marketing to those properties. If you want > Brokers to bring their buyers then you need to figure out a way to pay > them. I would not call a plumber or carpenter or painter and ask to > borrow their tools nor would I ask to rent their tools. One more short > lesson in reality, I as a Realtor, would not take my buyer to a FSBO > unless they specifically asked because 1. I end up doing twice the > work for half the pay because.... I am involved in the transaction the > seller thinks the Realtor should handle the whole transaction and all > of the liability. Some errors and omissions policiies have limitation > on FSBO's 2.It has been my experience that FSBO's often have something > to hide. There have been several writers on this forum asking when > should the seller disclose defects or if they should disclose. There > are other reasons and experiences I could share but the forum isn't > long enough. > > OK. Now how do I or would I market to Realtors. I would save the money > on the mls and make flyers or personal invitations to the Realtors > within a 10 mile radius of the property. > > I would inform the Realtors of the bidding method and let them know > all bids are evaluated on a net to the seller basis and that you would > be happy to ad their fees to the final bid if their client is the > highest bidder. It sounds like you are doing the internet, I do a > great deal of marketing with POSTLETs and they distribute to many of > the other sites. The last tip is to get laser specific about what the > buyer for your property will look like. Age, education, income,habits, > hobbies etc and direct your marketing and flyers specifically to them. > The time you spend brainstorming about what the buyer or buyers look > like will pay big dividend at sale time. > > Good luck, > > Tom Hoffman- Broker/Owner > > Top Priority Realty,LLC > > Licensed in Colorado > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>> From: Jennifer Wang >>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>>> <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:47:28 PM >>>> Subject: [5-DayForum] Will this work? >>>> >>>> Bill and folks, >>>> >>>> I am a big fan of Bill's 5 day methods, however, my io insists using >>>> traditional methods. So, I would use a compromise describe below. Now >>>> I am speculating whether it is going to work: >>>> >>>> (1) To list the house at $549,500 on mls, realtors.com, etc. It is a >>>> very good price, but not half price. In the message section, I am >>>> going to put "Round Robin on Sunday 07/12. Bidding will start at >>>> $XXX,XXX (one-half the list price)." >>>> (2) On Craigslist, list starting bid as half of the price to attract >>>> crowd. We are at Secaucus(only 5 minutes to Lincoln Tunnel). >>>> According to bill, craigslist alone is going to attract enough crowd >>>> at NY metropolitan area. >>>> (3) Open for inspection on Saturday(7/11) and Sunday(7/12). Run the >>>> round-robin bidding on Sunday night. Give 2.25% commission to buyers >>>> agent and give 2.25% discount to individuals without agents. >>>> (5) If the top 3 does not meet our desired price, we are going to tell >>>> them and ask whether they are willing to match and buy the house with >>>> our price. >>>> (6) If a deal is made Sunday night , sign the contract with them >>>> Monday or Wednesday morning. >>>> >>>> Will that work? >>>> >>>> Jennifer >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Bill Effros wrote: >>>>> Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals, >>>>> >>>>> I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host >>>>> whose >>>>> firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they >>>>> believe >>>>> they can sell them for. >>>>> >>>>> In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, >>>>> somebody >>>>> in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a >>>>> home >>>>> they had had in their inventory for too long. They followed the book >>>>> exactly. It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in >>>>> all >>>>> the time they held it. >>>>> >>>>> And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other >>>>> homes >>>>> in their inventory. >>>>> >>>>> Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the >>>>> 5-Day >>>>> Method. They sell to the top bidder every time. Some of their homes are >>>>> sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home. >>>>> >>>>> When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals >>>>> using >>>>> the 5-Day Method in their area. Now, he says all of his competitors are >>>>> using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it >>>>> was >>>>> not being used by all professionals, all over the country. He can't >>>>> imagine >>>>> his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, >>>>> over >>>>> time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all >>>>> professional >>>>> home sellers. >>>>> >>>>> As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals. Originally I >>>>> developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their >>>>> current value. It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of >>>>> determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were >>>>> pricing >>>>> at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no >>>>> responses as a result. >>>>> >>>>> If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is >>>>> why >>>>> I changed to this formulation. Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting >>>>> price >>>>> is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to >>>>> attract a >>>>> sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers. >>>>> >>>>> It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest >>>>> possible >>>>> price. Only if you price too high do you fail to get a sufficient >>>>> number of >>>>> real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of >>>>> initial responses. >>>>> >>>>> I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play >>>>> the >>>>> method by the book. I believe the professionals on this list do the >>>>> FSBOs a >>>>> disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals >>>>> that >>>>> are known to not work for FSBOs. >>>>> >>>>> I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can >>>>> get >>>>> more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided >>>>> only >>>>> that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum >>>>> who >>>>> spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions >>>>> over >>>>> and over. The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members >>>>> who >>>>> never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for >>>>> all the >>>>> work done by permanent Forum members. I should mention it more often. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to all of you, >>>>> >>>>> Bill Effros >>>>> Author >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> rosemarie-fred wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Tim - >>>>> If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers. >>>>> It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the >>>>> 5-day >>>>> sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not >>>>> following >>>>> the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been >>>>> following >>>>> this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they >>>>> tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using >>>>> common >>>>> sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you >>>>> could >>>>> advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you >>>>> can >>>>> live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless. Perhaps it's the >>>>> competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in >>>>> love >>>>> with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It >>>>> happens! >>>>> Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to >>>>> Tim. >>>>> It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you. >>>>> Rosemarie >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Tim Dever >>>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>>> >>>>> Suzie, >>>>> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a >>>>> handfull >>>>> of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices >>>>> indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is >>>>> king >>>>> and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent >>>>> is >>>>> standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my >>>>> home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If I were you listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff >>>>> in >>>>> the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for >>>>> real >>>>> estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look >>>>> into >>>>> Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this >>>>> program >>>>> doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a >>>>> realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and >>>>> advertise >>>>> on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always >>>>> go >>>>> for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they >>>>> always get that? >>>>> >>>>> Susie >>>>> >>>>> From: >>>>> 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>> [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Tim Dever >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM >>>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>>> >>>>> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist. I do >>>>> not >>>>> see any potential in this program whatsoever. I still contend that >>>>> price >>>>> has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any >>>>> knowledge >>>>> of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only >>>>> have >>>>> the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil >>>>> here. The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive. Its >>>>> that >>>>> simple. Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way >>>>> too >>>>> thin. I had high hopes for this program. I think I am going to now list >>>>> on >>>>> the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent. I >>>>> will >>>>> let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of >>>>> a >>>>> few thousand is there if they line up a buyer. This way I will have >>>>> them >>>>> all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the >>>>> punch. >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>>> From: Janetislight at aol.com >>>>> >>>>> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM >>>>> >>>>> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>>> >>>>> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. So, I'm at >>>>> 6/25. >>>>> Nothing from Craig's List. 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In-Reply-To: <4d0090bd0907042114o134637b0n6cc5d95bbb062003@mail.gmail.com> References: <4d0090bd0907011709y7438d4b4kcdaff1a8c59201d9@mail.gmail.com> <4d0090bd0907042114o134637b0n6cc5d95bbb062003@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A50A4F2.2030309@effros.com> Jennifer, Listen to Rosemarie. If you are not prepared to sell to the high bidder use some other method. A lot of people join this Forum, modify the method, and then say "The 5-Day Method didn't work." Bill Effros Author Jennifer Wang wrote: > Rosemarie, > > I do not agree with you that I have "changed the basic so much". I > only did 2 changes and one of the change idea I got by reading the > forum. > > (1) I read people on the forum using mls and giving agent fee. Also, > some people with realtor background gave advise on how to do the 5 day > sale wording in the mls. I was simple following their advises: put > full price on the listing price and in the comments area put "round > robin sale and bidding starts at $xxx,xxx (half of the listing price). > > (2) In the forum, a lot people are not comfortable of "the house WILL > sell on Sunday night". So, instead of biting my tong and saying " the > house WILL sell to the highest bidder" while I do not really mean it. > I decide not to say that. Still, I like the idea of giving people a > chance to bid the house. I will tell people that we definitely look to > sell the house and maybe more which I will add after I re-read the > book and the forum. > > Jennifer. > > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:50 AM, > rosemarie-fred wrote: > >> Jennifer- >> What you are proposing to do is NOT a 5-day sale. You have changed the >> basics so much that you have created something else. It may work - who >> knows? What we do know is that Bill's system works. None of us can do any >> better than a guess at whether your "new" system will work, and none of us >> here can give you legal advice. >> If you want to know how the 5-day system works, and want advice on that, we >> are here to offer our experiences to you. >> I second the advice to read the archives and re-read the book. >> You are asking an impossible question here. Sorry we cannot answer it for >> you, >> Rosemarie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jennifer Wang" >> To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" >> <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:09 PM >> Subject: [5-DayForum] what trouble I am getting myself into? >> >> >> Tom or any NJ realtors and your experienced folks, >> >> Tell me what kind of trouble I am getting myself into. >> >> I met a NJ realtor today and ask her to please list my house with >> $xxx,xxx and then in the description section put: Round Robin 07/12, >> bidding starts on $xxx,xxx (half of the listing price). She refused to >> do that. (a) She told me that even put "bidding" there is not >> legitimate unless I have a writing from an attorney. (b) she told me >> that I was putting 2 prices in mls which is not legitimate. >> >> So, can I use the word "bidding" at all? even at craigslist? What kind >> of trouble am I getting myself into? >> >> If I do an open end bidding (i.e., I do not say : will sell the house >> on Sunday night), am I getting myself into some sort of trouble? What >> kind of trouble I am getting myself into? >> >> Thanks, >> Jennifer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------- >> Tom Hoffman tomhoffman at live.com >> Sat May 30 13:42:25 EDT 2009 >> >> Previous message: [5-DayForum] MLS >> Next message: [5-DayForum] Re 5 day sale results(my first choice?) >> Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Thanks Kyle for your input. I have been on this forum a long time and >> have done many five day sales in several different states and not >> once, even having been and am a Realtor(16+ years), placed a 5 day >> sale in the mls. Realtors don't get buyers from the MLS, they get >> buyers from marketing, marketing and marketing. The MLS is for Brokers >> to share property information and use the information to take their >> buyers who they got through marketing to those properties. If you want >> Brokers to bring their buyers then you need to figure out a way to pay >> them. I would not call a plumber or carpenter or painter and ask to >> borrow their tools nor would I ask to rent their tools. One more short >> lesson in reality, I as a Realtor, would not take my buyer to a FSBO >> unless they specifically asked because 1. I end up doing twice the >> work for half the pay because.... I am involved in the transaction the >> seller thinks the Realtor should handle the whole transaction and all >> of the liability. Some errors and omissions policiies have limitation >> on FSBO's 2.It has been my experience that FSBO's often have something >> to hide. There have been several writers on this forum asking when >> should the seller disclose defects or if they should disclose. There >> are other reasons and experiences I could share but the forum isn't >> long enough. >> >> OK. Now how do I or would I market to Realtors. I would save the money >> on the mls and make flyers or personal invitations to the Realtors >> within a 10 mile radius of the property. >> >> I would inform the Realtors of the bidding method and let them know >> all bids are evaluated on a net to the seller basis and that you would >> be happy to ad their fees to the final bid if their client is the >> highest bidder. It sounds like you are doing the internet, I do a >> great deal of marketing with POSTLETs and they distribute to many of >> the other sites. The last tip is to get laser specific about what the >> buyer for your property will look like. Age, education, income,habits, >> hobbies etc and direct your marketing and flyers specifically to them. >> The time you spend brainstorming about what the buyer or buyers look >> like will pay big dividend at sale time. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Tom Hoffman- Broker/Owner >> >> Top Priority Realty,LLC >> >> Licensed in Colorado >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> From: Jennifer Wang >>>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>>>> <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:47:28 PM >>>>> Subject: [5-DayForum] Will this work? >>>>> >>>>> Bill and folks, >>>>> >>>>> I am a big fan of Bill's 5 day methods, however, my io insists using >>>>> traditional methods. So, I would use a compromise describe below. Now >>>>> I am speculating whether it is going to work: >>>>> >>>>> (1) To list the house at $549,500 on mls, realtors.com, etc. It is a >>>>> very good price, but not half price. In the message section, I am >>>>> going to put "Round Robin on Sunday 07/12. Bidding will start at >>>>> $XXX,XXX (one-half the list price)." >>>>> (2) On Craigslist, list starting bid as half of the price to attract >>>>> crowd. We are at Secaucus(only 5 minutes to Lincoln Tunnel). >>>>> According to bill, craigslist alone is going to attract enough crowd >>>>> at NY metropolitan area. >>>>> (3) Open for inspection on Saturday(7/11) and Sunday(7/12). Run the >>>>> round-robin bidding on Sunday night. Give 2.25% commission to buyers >>>>> agent and give 2.25% discount to individuals without agents. >>>>> (5) If the top 3 does not meet our desired price, we are going to tell >>>>> them and ask whether they are willing to match and buy the house with >>>>> our price. >>>>> (6) If a deal is made Sunday night , sign the contract with them >>>>> Monday or Wednesday morning. >>>>> >>>>> Will that work? >>>>> >>>>> Jennifer >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Bill Effros wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals, >>>>>> >>>>>> I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host >>>>>> whose >>>>>> firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they >>>>>> believe >>>>>> they can sell them for. >>>>>> >>>>>> In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, >>>>>> somebody >>>>>> in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a >>>>>> home >>>>>> they had had in their inventory for too long. They followed the book >>>>>> exactly. It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in >>>>>> all >>>>>> the time they held it. >>>>>> >>>>>> And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other >>>>>> homes >>>>>> in their inventory. >>>>>> >>>>>> Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the >>>>>> 5-Day >>>>>> Method. They sell to the top bidder every time. Some of their homes are >>>>>> sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home. >>>>>> >>>>>> When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals >>>>>> using >>>>>> the 5-Day Method in their area. Now, he says all of his competitors are >>>>>> using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it >>>>>> was >>>>>> not being used by all professionals, all over the country. He can't >>>>>> imagine >>>>>> his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, >>>>>> over >>>>>> time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all >>>>>> professional >>>>>> home sellers. >>>>>> >>>>>> As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals. Originally I >>>>>> developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their >>>>>> current value. It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of >>>>>> determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were >>>>>> pricing >>>>>> at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no >>>>>> responses as a result. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is >>>>>> why >>>>>> I changed to this formulation. Since FSBOs aim too high, the starting >>>>>> price >>>>>> is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to >>>>>> attract a >>>>>> sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers. >>>>>> >>>>>> It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest >>>>>> possible >>>>>> price. Only if you price too high do you fail to get a sufficient >>>>>> number of >>>>>> real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of >>>>>> initial responses. >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play >>>>>> the >>>>>> method by the book. I believe the professionals on this list do the >>>>>> FSBOs a >>>>>> disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals >>>>>> that >>>>>> are known to not work for FSBOs. >>>>>> >>>>>> I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can >>>>>> get >>>>>> more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided >>>>>> only >>>>>> that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum >>>>>> who >>>>>> spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions >>>>>> over >>>>>> and over. The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members >>>>>> who >>>>>> never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for >>>>>> all the >>>>>> work done by permanent Forum members. I should mention it more often. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks to all of you, >>>>>> >>>>>> Bill Effros >>>>>> Author >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> rosemarie-fred wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim - >>>>>> If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers. >>>>>> It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the >>>>>> 5-day >>>>>> sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not >>>>>> following >>>>>> the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been >>>>>> following >>>>>> this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they >>>>>> tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using >>>>>> common >>>>>> sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you >>>>>> could >>>>>> advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you >>>>>> can >>>>>> live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless. Perhaps it's the >>>>>> competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in >>>>>> love >>>>>> with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It >>>>>> happens! >>>>>> Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to >>>>>> Tim. >>>>>> It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you. >>>>>> Rosemarie >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Tim Dever >>>>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>>>> >>>>>> Suzie, >>>>>> I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a >>>>>> handfull >>>>>> of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices >>>>>> indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is >>>>>> king >>>>>> and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent >>>>>> is >>>>>> standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my >>>>>> home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum. >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> If I were you listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff >>>>>> in >>>>>> the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for >>>>>> real >>>>>> estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look >>>>>> into >>>>>> Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this >>>>>> program >>>>>> doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a >>>>>> realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and >>>>>> advertise >>>>>> on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always >>>>>> go >>>>>> for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they >>>>>> always get that? >>>>>> >>>>>> Susie >>>>>> >>>>>> From: >>>>>> 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>>> [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Tim Dever >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM >>>>>> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >>>>>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>>>> >>>>>> I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist. I do >>>>>> not >>>>>> see any potential in this program whatsoever. I still contend that >>>>>> price >>>>>> has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any >>>>>> knowledge >>>>>> of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only >>>>>> have >>>>>> the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil >>>>>> here. The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive. Its >>>>>> that >>>>>> simple. Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way >>>>>> too >>>>>> thin. I had high hopes for this program. I think I am going to now list >>>>>> on >>>>>> the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent. I >>>>>> will >>>>>> let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of >>>>>> a >>>>>> few thousand is there if they line up a buyer. This way I will have >>>>>> them >>>>>> all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the >>>>>> punch. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Janetislight at aol.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... >>>>>> >>>>>> I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. So, I'm at >>>>>> 6/25. >>>>>> Nothing from Craig's List. Four from signs and two from newspaper ads. >>>>>> I >>>>>> will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls. >>>>>> >>>>>> Janet >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter. >>>>>> We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. >>>>>> SPAMfighter has removed 2375 of my spam emails to date. >>>>>> The Professional version does not have this message. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>>> signature >>>>>> database 4189 (20090625) __________ >>>>>> >>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>>> signature >>>>>> database 4191 (20090626) __________ >>>>>> >>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>>>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090705/ea98ee55/attachment.html From skyhighplanning at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 09:32:43 2009 From: skyhighplanning at gmail.com (SKY HIGH) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:32:43 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] the quick route to a short sale? In-Reply-To: <1385644940.2317011246236499600.JavaMail.root@webmail.ci.springfield.oh.us> References: <1385644940.2317011246236499600.JavaMail.root@webmail.ci.springfield.oh.us> Message-ID: Loan modification & Short Sale are the only SOLUTIONS to the current problem most homeowners are facing. Just to clarify: Loan modification is designed to help save your home. The terms of your loan are reworked to make it affordable based on your financial situation. To sell your home, even if your mortgage is higher than current values, then your only solution is a short sale where your bank will consider a lower offer as payoff of your existing balance. You have nothing to worry about because you need to dispose of the home anyway. This way at least you'll have an offer to present to your bank even if it's less than the full payoff. I recommend you have a professional handle the short sale process. If you're concerned about too low of an offer than you're probably in the same situation as many others where you owe too much. In the current market it is difficult to get even market value for your home due to depreciating values in most areas. The 5 day sale method is definitely one of the most effective ways to get the closest to current market value as possible. So don't worry so much about getting an offer high enough to cover what you owe. You need to get rid of that house as soon as possible as the value could drop further. I recommend a professional to handle the short sale because the process can be confusing & time consuming due to the bank being overwhelmed with Foreclosures. Also, there is an incredible amount of misorganization & bad communication that exists within the bank's infrastructure. From experience I can tell you that the bank sometimes does things that make absolutely no sense at all but there are ways to overcome these obstacles. This is why it's important to allow a specialist in this field to work with your bank on your behalf. It doesn't matter how much lower than your loan balance the offer is if that is what homes are selling for comparable to yours. If anyone has questions feel free to contact me anytime! Now is the time to buy! We have hundreds of Foreclosures & bank owned homes that have not been put on the market yet. If you're looking for your Dream Home or Investment this is the time to benefit from the current state of the market. Carlos A. Chica Sky High Planning, Inc. 7380 Sand Lake Rd. #500 Orlando, FL 32819 Office: (407) 352-3220 Fax: (407) 738-4816 Cell: (646) 552-0107 skyhighplanning at gmail.com Coming Soon: www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com "It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible" - Walt Disney On Jun 28, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Korge Mori wrote: > Folks of The Forum: > > After reading the "How To Sell..." book over the weekend, I am left > wanting to believe that this home sale strategy is what I need to do > to sell my home. I have one super-huge lingering question, however, > that I can't seem to find addressed in the book or the Forum > threads. That is, in a real estate market that is depreciating like > a rust-bucket Yugo, what am I to do if my highest bidder can't cover > what I currently owe the bank? I want to be able to tell all my > potential buyers, "Yes, this home will be sold to the highest bidder > on Sunday night!", but what if I'm stuck trying to negotiate a short > sale or loan modification last-minute with the bank because the true > market value of my home isn't what the highest bidder is willing to > pay? This "no-risk" strategy is suddenly starting to sound like I > have EVERYTHING to lose if the right buyer doesn't come around... > > -korge > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090705/8b46877c/attachment.html From skyhighplanning at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 09:34:08 2009 From: skyhighplanning at gmail.com (SKY HIGH) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:34:08 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] the quick route to a short sale? In-Reply-To: <1385644940.2317011246236499600.JavaMail.root@webmail.ci.springfield.oh.us> References: <1385644940.2317011246236499600.JavaMail.root@webmail.ci.springfield.oh.us> Message-ID: <1CB4EFB1-7C3A-441A-9D58-49253D46AC9E@gmail.com> You must disclose to buyers that the offer is subject to bank approval Carlos A. Chica Investor, Real Estate Solutions Co. Sky High Planning, Inc. 7380 Sand Lake Rd. #500 Orlando, FL 32819 Office: (407) 352-3220 Fax: (407) 738-4816 Cell: (646) 552-0107 skyhighplanning at gmail.com Coming Soon: www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com "It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible" - Walt Disney On Jun 28, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Korge Mori wrote: > Folks of The Forum: > > After reading the "How To Sell..." book over the weekend, I am left > wanting to believe that this home sale strategy is what I need to do > to sell my home. I have one super-huge lingering question, however, > that I can't seem to find addressed in the book or the Forum > threads. That is, in a real estate market that is depreciating like > a rust-bucket Yugo, what am I to do if my highest bidder can't cover > what I currently owe the bank? I want to be able to tell all my > potential buyers, "Yes, this home will be sold to the highest bidder > on Sunday night!", but what if I'm stuck trying to negotiate a short > sale or loan modification last-minute with the bank because the true > market value of my home isn't what the highest bidder is willing to > pay? This "no-risk" strategy is suddenly starting to sound like I > have EVERYTHING to lose if the right buyer doesn't come around... > > -korge > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090705/e9ae927a/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sun Jul 5 09:49:21 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:49:21 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Message-ID: I bought white plastic signs with hardware at $2.50 a piece from a local sign making company. I used a black permanent marker and then wrote the exact ad as stated in the book on them. Nothing fancy, and very homemade looking. But, it worked! Janet In a message dated 7/4/2009 9:43:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gltucker at sc.rr.com writes: Janet, I'm thinking about doing this in Myrtle Beach, SC. Can you give me an idea as to what your signs said or looked like? Wishing you the best on your 5-day sale this weekend! Ginny ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+gltucker=sc.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+gltucker=sc.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:50 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... FYI, almost EVERY response came from the 20 signs we put up around Des Moines. Only three were from newspaper ads. Maybe this is a new method to introduce to your 5-day Sale philosophy. Oh no! Does that mean you might have to write another book? Janet PS: This idea was given to us by friends who have done this in other towns, but never tried here. Boy, it DOES work. In a message dated 6/26/2009 6:25:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Janetislight at aol.com writes: still 18/25... but what I feel are 4 real buyers. We have been getting 2-4 later calls at night so that will put me over 20. Well, Bill.... lets see if I'm dead on Monday. In a message dated 6/26/2009 1:05:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bill at effros.com writes: Janet, You will get killed if you proceed. Your home is not currently worth anything near what you hope to get for it. If you won't take what it is currently worth, don't use the 5-Day Method. Do something else. Use Tim's method. If that succeeds, let us know. Bill Effros Author _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) wrote: I don't know how my thread became so convoluted, however... we have 12 contacts and two who I feel are real buyers. One wanted to go tear the signs down. I think we are going to NOT take Bill's advice and see how it goes. Am I wrong? Plus, another person who has done 5-day sales here said that she received most of her telephone calls during the weekend. What to do, what to do? Janet In a message dated 6/26/2009 9:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, _nkhouri at cfl.rr.com_ (mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com) writes: It?s not going to work if you have a certain price in mind that does not support the market price regardless of how much you offer in commissions or bonuses or other incentives? Remember, Realtors don?t find Buyers, the buyers find homes and then contact a realtor to use his or her services? Additionally, when you go with a flat fee listing, the listing is entered as a Limited Service listing in MLS and many Realtors will not even show anything that?s not listed as an Exclusive Right To Sell. If you really want to sell your home, then PRICE it right regardless of what method is used. I see you started pretty high on the home when it was listed with Coldwell Banker and went down to 279K and still no results. I would suggest you run a complete analysis on the area that you?re in, including recent sales, days on market, current foreclosures, bank owned properties, online analysis, and historical analysis to get an idea of what taking place in your neighborhood right now, then price the home accordingly. If you don?t get any showings in the first 3 weeks, drop the price by at least 3%-5% and reevaluate in 3 weeks. Wish you all the best, -Naji ____________________________________ From: _5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com@ mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) [_mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) ] On Behalf Of Bill Effros Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:36 AM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Tim, What will you do if it doesn't work? Bill Effros Author Tim Dever wrote: Suzie, I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ (mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) > wrote: If I were you listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=_gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) [_mailto:5-dayforum-bounces_ (mailto:5-dayforum-bounces) +susies07=_gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) ] On Behalf Of Tim Dever Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist. I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever. I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here. The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive. Its that simple. Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin. I had high hopes for this program. I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent. I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer. This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. So, I'm at 6/25. Nothing from Craig's List. Four from signs and two from newspaper ads. I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls. 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Central Daylight Time, stvgary at aol.com writes: anything wrong with putting the towns tax accessed value in very small print to give people an idea of how much of a bargain they might get? -----Original Message----- From: Tim Dever To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 26, 2009 5:10 pm Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Bill, Please tell me why half price of a number that is unkown matters so much. I just see no logic in this at all. The people that see my listing have no idea what my home is really worth. As far as they are concerned my home is worth between zero and a million dollars. The phone should ring based on a quality description and what seems to be a good deal. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Bill Effros <_bill at effros.com_ (mailto:bill at effros.com) > wrote: Naji, Rosemarie, Other Professionals, I was on an hour-long radio interview in Boston last week with a host whose firm buys thousands of homes each year at roughly 65% of what they believe they can sell them for. In 2006, when they started to become unable to make their numbers, somebody in the office picked up my book and suggested that they try it on a home they had had in their invent ory for too long. They followed the book exactly. It sold in 5 days for more than they had ever been offered in all the time they held it. And, of course, they wound up with a list of active buyers for other homes in their inventory. Since then, they have offered all homes in their inventory using the 5-Day Method. They sell to the top bidder every time. Some of their homes are sold to buyers who come to 5-Day Sales looking for a different home. When they started doing this in 2006, they were the only professionals using the 5-Day Method in their area. Now, he says all of his competitors are using the 5-Day Method as well, and he was surprised to learn that it was not being used by all professionals, all over the country. He can't imagine his firm will ever go back to the old method, and he believes that, over time, the 5-Day Method will become the method of choice for all professional home sellers. As you know, I didn't write the book for professionals. Originally I developed a complex formula for pricing homes at roughly 2/3 of their current value. It soon became obvious that FSBOs were incapable of determining the actual current value of their homes, and they were pricing at 2/3 of what they hoped for in their wildest dreams and getting no responses as a result. If you price at 50% you'll get 25 responses by Friday night -- which is why I changed to this formulation. Since FSBOs aim too h igh, the starting price is usually more than 50% of current value, but still low enough to attract a sufficient number of initial responses and real buyers. It doesn't matter how low you go, you will still get the highest possible price. Only if you price too high do you fail to get a sufficient number of real buyers, and you can tell because you get an insufficient number of initial responses. I believe FSBOs will get the highest price for their homes if they play the method by the book. I believe the professionals on this list do the FSBOs a disservice when they suggest techniques appropriate for professionals that are known to not work for FSBOs. I continue to believe that FSBOs who sell their homes themselves can get more for their homes than any professional can get for them, provided only that they follow the book exactly, and always sell to the high bidder. Thanks to you both, and to all of the other professionals on this Forum who spend so much time maintaining order, and answering the same questions over and over. The 5-Day Forum has proved extremely valuable to many members who never post to the list, and I often get back-channel compliments for all the work done by permanent Forum members. I should mention it more often. Thanks to all of you, Bill Effros Author rosemarie-fred wrote: Tim - If this works, I hope you will let us all know, with numbers. It seems as if you have developed a chip on you shoulder about the 5-day sale, which is your business, but it also seems as if you are not following the system. Lots of people over the couple of years I have been following this have done this: They say that the system doesn't work because they tried it except... (Insert your own exception). You seem to be using common sense, which this system does not! It doesn't seem sensible that you could advertise for less than half the price and still sell at a price you can live with. But it works for many of us, nonetheless. Perhaps it's the competition of bidding against other buyers, but once someone falls in love with the house, they will often bid way more than they expected to. It happens! Naji - I am so impressed by the effort you put into your response to Tim. It's people like you that make this forum valuable. Thank you. Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: _Tim Dever_ (mailto:tdever at monkeysarcades.com) To: _How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Suzie, I am using berg properties $299 flat fee gets me realtor.com and a handfull of others. I am then going to email and drop flyers at realtors offices indicating a double commision for lineing up the buyer. I think cash is king and an extra $3000 is more motivating than food. Am I wrong 2.5 percent is standard here now 4 or 5 will sweeten the pot and realtors will push my home. If this works I will write a book and start a forum. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, "Susie" <_susies07 at gmail.com_ (mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) > wrote: If I were you listing in just the mls it?s is a little more than a puff in the wind. IF you don?t have it with All (30 some odd ) web sites for real estate you are wasting your time and efforts. I would suggest you look into Cen 21?s click it program. I am going to use it as a back up if this program doesn?t work for me when I try it in a couple of weeks. I used to be a realtor and the two things you must do is get people to see it and advertise on the internet. Do as many realtor open houses with food! They always go for food and get creative with food. Not subway or olive garden as they always get that? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=_gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) [_mailto:5-dayforum-bounces_ (mailto:5-dayforum-bounces) +susies07=_gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:gmail.com at mailman.howtoselly%20%20ourhomein5days.com) ] On Behalf Of Tim Dever Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:11 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... I have had 4 emails that have been only realtors from craigslist. I do not see any potential in this program whatsoever. I still contend that price has nothing to do with the number of calls because no one has any knowledge of the value of my home because they do not have an address. They only have the knowledge of the town and homes here range between 150K and 1.5 Mil here. The phone is not ringing because the inventory is massive. Its that simple. Foreclosures and short sales have calls and interest spread way too thin. I had high hopes for this program. I think I am going to now list on the MLS myself and offer a cash bonus directly to the buyers agent. I will let all realtors in the area know a cash bonus paid directly to them of a few thousand is there if they line up a buyer. This way I will have them all interested in selling my home and beating their competitor to the punch. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... I received three calls yesterday, and so far three today. So, I'm at 6/25. Nothing from Craig's List. Four from signs and two from newspaper ads. I will try to update you tonight to include the rest of today's calls. 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Central Daylight Time, kmori at ci.springfield.oh.us writes: Folks of The Forum: After reading the "How To Sell..." book over the weekend, I am left wanting to believe that this home sale strategy is what I need to do to sell my home. I have one super-huge lingering question, however, that I can't seem to find addressed in the book or the Forum threads. That is, in a real estate market that is depreciating like a rust-bucket Yugo, what am I to do if my highest bidder can't cover what I currently owe the bank? I want to be able to tell all my potential buyers, "Yes, this home will be sold to the highest bidder on Sunday night!", but what if I'm stuck trying to negotiate a short sale or loan modification last-minute with the bank because the true market value of my home isn't what the highest bidder is willing to pay? This "no-risk" strategy is suddenly starting to sound like I have EVERYTHING to lose if the right buyer doesn't come around... -korge _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222887319x1201497660/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090705/a27a539b/attachment.html From lgwatson04 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 14:54:01 2009 From: lgwatson04 at yahoo.com (L Watson) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] Land sale help needed? Message-ID: <554391.88088.qm@web110614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I bought the third edition awhile back at the book store and ready to try it out. ?I have 13+ ac property with Hot artesian mineral wells that feed two big ponds with fish. ?This is Arizona high desert property that has lots of potential. ?The value is in the land and water but there is an old house, barn, bathhouse and manufactured home. ?I'm wanting to do a land sale because that is where the value is. ?Just took it off the market because of not one offer in over one year but lots of interest. ?Time to try 5-day... ?Any suggestions PLEASE. Oh! I'm willing to carry a first and not sure to handle this in the sale. ?Thanks much... Lon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090707/63f418ef/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Tue Jul 7 14:42:44 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:42:44 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Message-ID: Anyone who comes is good in my opinion. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 11:06:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I am confused. Do I just put open house or inspection on the signs for Fri and Sat. Do I put anything else on the signs? The book says open house but won?t that get stray people? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090707/4a9a569a/attachment.html From susies07 at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 16:32:47 2009 From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:32:47 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02f301c9ff42$1799f560$46cde020$@com> Do you just do open house sign on Sat / Sun or auction open house sat / sun? Can anyone be specific? I am a bit anal on trying to do it exactly like the book and yet I don?t know what to say? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:43 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Anyone who comes is good in my opinion. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 11:06:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I am confused. Do I just put open house or inspection on the signs for Fri and Sat. Do I put anything else on the signs? The book says open house but won?t that get stray people? Susie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4222 (20090707) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4222 (20090707) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090707/11da1a28/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Tue Jul 7 16:44:45 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:44:45 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Message-ID: What I put on my signs was the exact ad that I placed in the paper. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 3:33:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: Do you just do open house sign on Sat / Sun or auction open house sat / sun? Can anyone be specific? I am a bit anal on trying to do it exactly like the book and yet I don?t know what to say? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:43 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Anyone who comes is good in my opinion. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 11:06:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I am confused. Do I just put open house or inspection on the signs for Fri and Sat. Do I put anything else on the signs? The book says open house but won?t that get stray people? 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Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:45 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out What I put on my signs was the exact ad that I placed in the paper. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 3:33:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: Do you just do open house sign on Sat / Sun or auction open house sat / sun? Can anyone be specific? I am a bit anal on trying to do it exactly like the book and yet I don?t know what to say? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:43 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Anyone who comes is good in my opinion. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 11:06:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I am confused. Do I just put open house or inspection on the signs for Fri and Sat. Do I put anything else on the signs? The book says open house but won?t that get stray people? 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Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: Do you just do open house sign on Sat / Sun or auction open house sat / sun? Can anyone be specific? I am a bit anal on trying to do it exactly like the book and yet I don?t know what to say? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:43 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Anyone who comes is good in my opinion. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 11:06:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I am confused. Do I just put open house or inspection on the signs for Fri and Sat. Do I put anything else on the signs? The book says open house but won?t that get stray people? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090707/3cf2fed5/attachment.html From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com Tue Jul 7 19:01:38 2009 From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:01:38 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out References: <030901c9ff44$10634510$3129cf30$@com> Message-ID: Handwitten signs are better - if you print them it looks like you are a pro, instead of being a homeowner trying to sell the house. People respond better to handwritten signs. Good luck! Where are you located - would you include that in your next and going forward, please? Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: Susie To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out And you hand wrote it or had it printed? I am thinking I need about 20 signs? So far I have 9 ready to write on? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:45 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out What I put on my signs was the exact ad that I placed in the paper. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 3:33:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: Do you just do open house sign on Sat / Sun or auction open house sat / sun? Can anyone be specific? I am a bit anal on trying to do it exactly like the book and yet I don?t know what to say? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:43 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Anyone who comes is good in my opinion. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 11:06:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I am confused. Do I just put open house or inspection on the signs for Fri and Sat. Do I put anything else on the signs? The book says open house but won?t that get stray people? 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Instead of calling the bidders on the phone for the round robin part?how about have them?use ?Go To Meeting.com. ?There they are on the internet and it is a live bidding process and the excitment would be more intense. Just a thought. Please give me feedback before I try this idea. Robin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090707/7137db85/attachment.html From skyhighplanning at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 19:26:19 2009 From: skyhighplanning at gmail.com (SKY HIGH) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:26:19 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Ues Go to Meeting.com for the round robin bidding In-Reply-To: <388945.20490.qm@web43409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <388945.20490.qm@web43409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <91FD2115-64E6-44F4-9344-FE7C3D98B9FC@gmail.com> The bidding process will be more effective if you deal with each bidder privately. Carlos A. Chica Sky High Planning, Inc. Real Estate Solutions Co. 7380 Sand Lake Rd. #500 Orlando, FL 32819 Office: (407) 352-3220 Fax: (407) 738-4816 Cell: (646) 552-0107 skyhighplanning at gmail.com Coming Soon: www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com "It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible" - Walt Disney On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Robin Porter wrote: > Hello, > I just thought of a great idea. Instead of calling the bidders on > the phone for the round robin part how about have them use Go To Meeting.com > . There they are on the internet and it is a live bidding process > and the excitment would be more intense. Just a thought. Please give > me feedback before I try this idea. > > Robin > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090707/a1eef2a7/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Tue Jul 7 19:50:59 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:50:59 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Message-ID: I did 20 signs, HAND WRITTEN. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 6:03:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com writes: Handwitten signs are better - if you print them it looks like you are a pro, instead of being a homeowner trying to sell the house. People respond better to handwritten signs. Good luck! Where are you located - would you include that in your next and going forward, please? Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: _Susie_ (mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) To: _'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out And you hand wrote it or had it printed? I am thinking I need about 20 signs? So far I have 9 ready to write on? Susie From: _5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:45 PM To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out What I put on my signs was the exact ad that I placed in the paper. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 3:33:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: Do you just do open house sign on Sat / Sun or auction open house sat / sun? Can anyone be specific? I am a bit anal on trying to do it exactly like the book and yet I don?t know what to say? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:43 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Anyone who comes is good in my opinion. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 11:06:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I am confused. Do I just put open house or inspection on the signs for Fri and Sat. Do I put anything else on the signs? The book says open house but won?t that get stray people? Susie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4222 (20090707) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ____________________________________ An Excellent Credit Score is 750. _See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585089x1201462806/aol?redir=http://ww w.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=JulyExcfooter NO62) __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4222 (20090707) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4222 (20090707) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ____________________________________ An Excellent Credit Score is 750. _See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585089x1201462806/aol?redir=http://ww w.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=JulyExcfooter NO62) __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4222 (20090707) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) ____________________________________ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585089x1201462806/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090707/ac987e3c/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Tue Jul 7 19:51:42 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:51:42 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Message-ID: I put them out Wednesday/ Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 4:05:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: Thank you. Did you put the signs out Fri night or Tues night? From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:45 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out What I put on my signs was the exact ad that I placed in the paper. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 3:33:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: Do you just do open house sign on Sat / Sun or auction open house sat / sun? Can anyone be specific? I am a bit anal on trying to do it exactly like the book and yet I don?t know what to say? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:43 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Anyone who comes is good in my opinion. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 11:06:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I am confused. Do I just put open house or inspection on the signs for Fri and Sat. Do I put anything else on the signs? The book says open house but won?t that get stray people? 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See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585089x1201462806/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090707/b9593436/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Tue Jul 7 19:52:52 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:52:52 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Message-ID: If you go to a sign shop, you can get blank signs with hardware for very little. For 20 signs I paid under $100. And then next time I can use the hardware over again. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 3:48:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: And you hand wrote it or had it printed? I am thinking I need about 20 signs? So far I have 9 ready to write on? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:45 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out What I put on my signs was the exact ad that I placed in the paper. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 3:33:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: Do you just do open house sign on Sat / Sun or auction open house sat / sun? Can anyone be specific? I am a bit anal on trying to do it exactly like the book and yet I don?t know what to say? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:43 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] what to say on signs and when to put out Anyone who comes is good in my opinion. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 11:06:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I am confused. Do I just put open house or inspection on the signs for Fri and Sat. Do I put anything else on the signs? The book says open house but won?t that get stray people? 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See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585089x1201462806/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090707/67187975/attachment.html From patricialone at hotmail.com Tue Jul 7 19:59:03 2009 From: patricialone at hotmail.com (Patricia Lone) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:59:03 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Ues Go to Meeting.com for the round robin bidding In-Reply-To: <388945.20490.qm@web43409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <388945.20490.qm@web43409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's an idea, though you can never tell what people might do or say in that type of a forum. Probably good for a predictable business meeting, or a seminar but for the purpose of Round Robin bidding that would be too much familiarity for all of the bidders is my thought, and too much of not knowing how others would behave if they wanted to undermine to get a better price on the house. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:49:44 -0700 From: robinp43 at yahoo.com To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com CC: rporter3 at yahoo.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Ues Go to Meeting.com for the round robin bidding Hello, I just thought of a great idea. Instead of calling the bidders on the phone for the round robin part how about have them use Go To Meeting.com. There they are on the internet and it is a live bidding process and the excitment would be more intense. Just a thought. Please give me feedback before I try this idea. Robin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: Robin Porter To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Cc: rporter3 at yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 6:49 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] Ues Go to Meeting.com for the round robin bidding Hello, I just thought of a great idea. Instead of calling the bidders on the phone for the round robin part how about have them use Go To Meeting.com. There they are on the internet and it is a live bidding process and the excitment would be more intense. Just a thought. Please give me feedback before I try this idea. Robin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Susie in Asheville, NC From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:23 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] cost of advertising It's more than I paid, but not outrageous. I think you are in the right ball park. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 10:09:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tara at dastrup.com writes: How much did advertising cost for your 5 day sales? I'm looking at 2 newspapers (a more local one and the NY times), 2 penny savers (different areas), and yahoo realty for a total of $950 (plus some free internet sites). 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090708/fbc23085/attachment.html From flyingnutjob at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 20:52:45 2009 From: flyingnutjob at gmail.com (Dutch Revenboer) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:52:45 -0500 Subject: [5-DayForum] cost of advertising In-Reply-To: <042301ca002e$ae2e83a0$0a8b8ae0$@com> References: <042301ca002e$ae2e83a0$0a8b8ae0$@com> Message-ID: I'm sure there is a flat fee broker in your town that will LIST it in the MLS. But understand what the MLS is. It is a Multiple Listing Service FOR BROKERS/AGENTS to share their properties and help each other get them sold. It is NOT for the public use. It is OWNED and OPERATED by the Realtors. If an agent brings a buyer to you, you should be willing to pay for that service. Why would any realtor cart someones fat happy ass around for weeks showing them houses, then bring them to yours only for you to tell them that you're not going to pay them. Exactly how should this agent get paid? What exactly is a Qualified, ready to buy buyer worth to you to buy your home this weekend? If you are not willing to pay 1 to 3% for that service, then you should NOT list it in the MLS. I wouldn't list for you if you were NOT going to offer the buyers agent anything. Why would I? Why would anyone? Do YOU go to work for FREE? Dutch Revenboer Broker Associate Metro Brokers of Oklahoma www.DreamHomesOKC.com 405-590-6563 We Buy Houses - www.OKCash4Homes.com We Help Stop Foreclosure - www.OKHomesavers.com We Sell / Lease Homes - Specializing in Low Down Owner Carry Properties - No Credit, Bad Credit OK - www.BuySellRentHouses.com On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Susie wrote: > I am having trouble getting into mls. I found a ?deal? BUT now they want > a 1% commission for a buyers agent bringing a ready, willing and able buyer > at my low starting price. Are they nuts? Who wouldn?t want it at ? price. > Any suggestions? > > Susie in Asheville, NC > > > > *From:* 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com@ > mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07<5-dayforum-bounces%2Bsusies07> > =gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] *On Behalf Of * > Janetislight at aol.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:23 AM > *To:* 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > *Subject:* Re: [5-DayForum] cost of advertising > > > > It's more than I paid, but not outrageous. I think you are in the right > ball park. > > > > Janet > > > > In a message dated 7/7/2009 10:09:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > tara at dastrup.com writes: > > How much did advertising cost for your 5 day sales? I'm looking at 2 > newspapers (a more local one and the NY times), 2 penny savers (different > areas), and yahoo realty for a total of $950 (plus some free internet > sites). Is that a lot? thanks -tara > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > ------------------------------ > > Popular laptop deals plus free shipping! > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4224 (20090708) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4225 (20090708) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is a Multiple Listing Service FOR BROKERS/AGENTS to share their properties and help each other get them sold. It is NOT for the public use. It is OWNED and OPERATED by the Realtors. If an agent brings a buyer to you, you should be willing to pay for that service. Why would any realtor cart someones fat happy ass around for weeks showing them houses, then bring them to yours only for you to tell them that you're not going to pay them. Exactly how should this agent get paid? What exactly is a Qualified, ready to buy buyer worth to you to buy your home this weekend? If you are not willing to pay 1 to 3% for that service, then you should NOT list it in the MLS. I wouldn't list for you if you were NOT going to offer the buyers agent anything. Why would I? Why would anyone? Do YOU go to work for FREE? Dutch Revenboer Broker Associate Metro Brokers of Oklahoma www.DreamHomesOKC.com 405-590-6563 We Buy Houses - www.OKCash4Homes.com We Help Stop Foreclosure - www.OKHomesavers.com We Sell / Lease Homes - Specializing in Low Down Owner Carry Properties - No Credit, Bad Credit OK - www.BuySellRentHouses.com On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Susie wrote: I am having trouble getting into mls. I found a ?deal? BUT now they want a 1% commission for a buyers agent bringing a ready, willing and able buyer at my low starting price. Are they nuts? Who wouldn?t want it at ? price. Any suggestions? Susie in Asheville, NC From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07 =gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:23 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] cost of advertising It's more than I paid, but not outrageous. I think you are in the right ball park. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 10:09:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tara at dastrup.com writes: How much did advertising cost for your 5 day sales? I'm looking at 2 newspapers (a more local one and the NY times), 2 penny savers (different areas), and yahoo realty for a total of $950 (plus some free internet sites). Is that a lot? thanks -tara _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ Popular laptop deals plus free shipping! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4224 (20090708) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4225 (20090708) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090708/aa700ad2/attachment.html From peaceatlast at kellin.net Wed Jul 8 22:22:30 2009 From: peaceatlast at kellin.net (Patty Lorence) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:22:30 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] cost of advertising References: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59B99@phoo.dastrup.com> Message-ID: <007601ca003c$1cfe8340$0301a8c0@GATEWAYP4> A LOT more than you would expect. I spent $1,000 on ads in two major newspapers; $700 dollars in signs, $700 in post cards and $200 in color printing. After all that and 45 calls by Friday night, I had no bidders. I had near 100 people through my house but only 7 from the post card calls to whom I had sent information. The others were from highway signs and these people are NOT looking for a house and are NOT ready to make an offer. They are garage sale people and just curious. I was highly diappointed and I followed the book to the T. BTW not one call from Craigslist or the newspapers. I am in Denver/Colorado Springs CO. Be very careful. And to make it worse my lovely home that is 4,000 sq ft, 35 acres, new barn and horse property and one of the nicest properties in the county is now being referred to as the "Auction House". Not fun. Not fun at all. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tara Dastrup To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:08 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] cost of advertising How much did advertising cost for your 5 day sales? I'm looking at 2 newspapers (a more local one and the NY times), 2 penny savers (different areas), and yahoo realty for a total of $950 (plus some free internet sites). Is that a lot? thanks -tara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090708/54493d9f/attachment.html From tara at dastrup.com Thu Jul 9 14:46:34 2009 From: tara at dastrup.com (Tara Dastrup) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:46:34 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] cost of advertising In-Reply-To: <007601ca003c$1cfe8340$0301a8c0@GATEWAYP4> References: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59B99@phoo.dastrup.com>, <007601ca003c$1cfe8340$0301a8c0@GATEWAYP4> Message-ID: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59B9E@phoo.dastrup.com> Did you check those newspapers to see if they had a lot of real estate listed for your area? I just looked at a wed. newpaper of the NY times and there was about 2 houses is all... in the NY times (a ton of apartments)! I'll check it this weekend though. So did you get bidders, just no one bid high enough? thanks -tara ________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patty Lorence [peaceatlast at kellin.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:22 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] cost of advertising A LOT more than you would expect. I spent $1,000 on ads in two major newspapers; $700 dollars in signs, $700 in post cards and $200 in color printing. After all that and 45 calls by Friday night, I had no bidders. I had near 100 people through my house but only 7 from the post card calls to whom I had sent information. The others were from highway signs and these people are NOT looking for a house and are NOT ready to make an offer. They are garage sale people and just curious. I was highly diappointed and I followed the book to the T. BTW not one call from Craigslist or the newspapers. I am in Denver/Colorado Springs CO. Be very careful. And to make it worse my lovely home that is 4,000 sq ft, 35 acres, new barn and horse property and one of the nicest properties in the county is now being referred to as the "Auction House". Not fun. Not fun at all. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tara Dastrup To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:08 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] cost of advertising How much did advertising cost for your 5 day sales? I'm looking at 2 newspapers (a more local one and the NY times), 2 penny savers (different areas), and yahoo realty for a total of $950 (plus some free internet sites). Is that a lot? thanks -tara ________________________________ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090709/476b1e54/attachment.html From Aaron at eurofixonline.com Thu Jul 9 14:51:52 2009 From: Aaron at eurofixonline.com (Aaron Stokes) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:51:52 -0500 Subject: [5-DayForum] MY Experience! Message-ID: <06A7BAC3446E4EEBBCE804CB0283AD59@aaroncomputer> Ok, so I have thought alot about this idea... I have been planning for months, reading this forum and preparing for it. I truly believe this works and that it can be very quick and effective. But I believe there is another reason why homes don't sell with this method... And no one wants to mention it. I believe it's because of the owners... Some people are just good with people and some ar not. We all know some people out there that DO NOT need to sell their own house. We all probably have a cousin or brother that we KNOW would run everyone off. Now please understand I am not saying that ALL homes that try this method that don't work are because of this, but a good portion I would say could be blamed on this. Not all, but a large portion.... And I know other people are thinking about this but are afraid to say it. Now on to why I think this... I have started my sale.... I have 8 acres 3700 sq ft house and a large barn... I put an add on craigs list and mailed a postcard... I got 33 of my calls in the first 24 hours... I am now near 44 calls. I did things a little different... Placed my craigslist ad on monday instead of wed.... I also had my flyer hit mailboxes on monday. The flyer was professionally done by my marketing guy here at my business that I own. I then followed the book to the "T"... I also had a mailhouse do the mailing and hit only 75k income plus homes...And I mailed 1600 flyers.... I will send another email with the flyer attached.... I came up with a catchy by-line for the ad .... "BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES" I bought a pre-paid cell phone to operate off of.... I hired help to make sure the house is in top shape..... I have pictures running on my plasma tv of the home, from when we did weddings and party's here and construction pictures... I have copies of floor plans, land plat, property taxes, utility bills, home inspection report etc.... I have the attic open, crawl space open, my team of freinds are handing out free cold drinks to everyone.... I had some figure out where my place is and drive by over and over..... I have told everyone that I am not giving out the address until friday afternoon with more details because my wife is getting stressed out about all the people trying to come up the driveway and they have all respected it..... I am not giving any pictures of the inside out to anyone.... I don't think inside pictures ever look good, and furniture really plays a key roll in that. So I have stuck to good outside pics.... And my house is amazing inside... Today I replaced my ad at the top of craigs list and have already gotten more calls... I tell everyone to call who emails and then I just explain what I am doing as politely as possible and why I'm using this method... I have told everyone that it will go for a deal, but obviously not as low as the asking price... I started at 299,500.... It appraised for 740,000 in 2006.... I have no idea what it is worth now, but I am a realist and I am willing to take what ever the market can bear this weekend... I don't owe that much so we are not worried.... We don't have to sell, this is simply so we can proceed with another project that we have going.... To date I have spent about $1,100 on the flyers and that's it... I am borrowing some directional signs from a freind... So far 19 calls from flyers, and 25 from craigslist... I only used those two avenues.... You can find my craigslist ad under Nashville, TN.... type in "BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES" in the search box.... I will post the flyer ad in my next email... I will try to email progress nightly.... But something they don't say enough in the book is how emotionally exhausting this is.... Every phone call is 20-30 min long.... But I will give the whole story in detail, because that is what I desired when I read everyone elses stories.... And I rarely got it. We will be successful with this! Thanks, Aaron Franklin, Tenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If any of you would take a look at my ad and let me know if I'm doing something wrong, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'll paste the Craigslist link down below. Also, what are your thoughts on deleting an ad and reposting to get it to show up higher on the list? My assumption is that real buyers will find it as long as it's there. Opinions? Experiences? Thanks, everyone! - Holly http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/reo/1258997235.html (real estate - by owner) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090708/877c7f8c/attachment.html From lisagreatrice at yahoo.com Thu Jul 9 15:48:50 2009 From: lisagreatrice at yahoo.com (Lisa Johnson) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] MY Experience! Message-ID: <498257.8524.qm@web59003.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Thank you Aaron for taking the time to fill?us in!? Your description?is just what we were looking for on this forum.? We are gearing up to run our home in two weeks and I appreciate all of the time you are taking to keep up posted on everything!! --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Aaron Stokes wrote: From: Aaron Stokes Subject: [5-DayForum] MY Experience! To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 11:51 AM Ok, so I have thought alot about this idea... I have been planning for months, reading this forum?and preparing for it.?I truly believe this works and that it can be very quick and effective. ? But I believe there is another reason why homes don't sell with this method... And no one wants to mention it. I believe it's because of the owners... Some people are just good with people and some ar not. We all know some people out there that?DO NOT?need to sell their own house. We all probably have a cousin or brother that we KNOW would run everyone off.?Now please understand I am not saying that ALL homes that try this method that?don't work are?because of this, but a good portion I would say could be blamed on this.?Not all, but a large portion....?And I know other people are thinking about this but are?afraid to say it.? ? Now on to why I think this... I have started my sale.... I have 8 acres 3700 sq ft house and a large barn... I put an add on craigs list and mailed a postcard... I got 33 of my calls in the first 24 hours... I am now near 44 calls. ? I did things a little different... Placed my craigslist ad on monday?instead of wed.... I also had my flyer hit mailboxes on monday. The flyer was professionally done by my marketing guy here at my business that I own. I then followed the book to the "T"... I also had a mailhouse do the mailing and hit only 75k income plus homes...And I mailed 1600 flyers.... I will send another email with the flyer attached.... ? I came up with a catchy by-line for the ad?.... "BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES" ? I bought a pre-paid cell phone to operate off of.... I hired help to make sure the house is in top shape..... I have pictures running on my plasma tv of the home, from when we did weddings and party's here and construction pictures... I have copies of floor plans, land plat, property taxes, utility bills, home inspection report etc.... I have the attic open, crawl space open, my team of freinds are handing out free?cold drinks to everyone.... ? I had some figure out where my place is and drive by over and over..... I have told everyone that I am not giving out the address until friday afternoon with more details because my wife is getting stressed out about?all the people trying to come up the driveway and they have all respected it..... I am not giving any pictures of the inside out to anyone.... I don't think inside pictures ever look good, and furniture really plays a key roll in that. So I have stuck to good outside pics.... And my house is amazing inside... ? Today I replaced my ad at the top of craigs list and have already gotten more calls... I tell everyone to call who emails and then I just explain what I am doing as politely as possible and why I'm using this method... I have told everyone that it will go for a deal, but obviously not as low as the asking price... ? I started at 299,500.... It appraised for 740,000 in 2006.... I have no idea what it is worth now, but I am a realist and I am willing to take what ever the market can bear this weekend... I don't owe that much so we are not worried.... We don't have to sell, this is simply so we can proceed with another project that we have going.... ? To date I have spent about $1,100 on the flyers and that's it... I am borrowing some directional signs from a freind... ? So far 19 calls from flyers, and 25 from craigslist... I only used those two avenues.... ? You can find my craigslist ad under Nashville, TN.... type in "BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES" in the search box.... I will post the flyer ad in my next email... ? ? I will try to email progress nightly.... But something they don't say enough in the book is how emotionally exhausting this is.... Every phone call is 20-30 min long.... But I will give the whole story in detail, because that is what I desired when I read everyone elses stories.... And I rarely got it. We will be successful with this! ? Thanks, ? Aaron Franklin, Tenn -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090709/f2573957/attachment.html From lbicon at aol.com Thu Jul 9 17:49:51 2009 From: lbicon at aol.com (lbicon at aol.com) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:49:51 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? In-Reply-To: <1d6780b80907081637v7958be5cxb4b961c6098848c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d6780b80907081637v7958be5cxb4b961c6098848c3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CBCEF65223A819-1200-265D@WEBMAIL-MY28.sysops.aol.com> Holly, I am an agent in San Diego. I have used this method all over the county. The closest to your home was in South park in 07. ? Your add may have too much information about the house.?I'm sure that there will be plenty of interest.You can call me if you would like and I will give you some more info. Regards, Conrad Kuiken? House Hunter Realty 760-603-0100 www.househunter.com ? -----Original Message----- From: Holly Bookwalter To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:37 pm Subject: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? Hi, everyone. I'm doing a 5-day sale of my home in San Diego. I put the ad up through Postlets.com and then posted that ad on Craigslist (since CL doesn't allow Postlets to automatically post it for me). So far, I've received only ONE response from a person who is sincerely interested in attending. I put the ad up late last night, so I was expecting to be swamped with phone calls and emails today! If any of you would take a look at my ad and let me know if I'm doing something wrong, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'll paste the Craigslist link down below. Also, what are your thoughts on deleting an ad and reposting to get it to show up higher on the list? My assumption is that real buyers will find it as long as it's there. Opinions? Experiences? Thanks, everyone! - Holly http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/reo/1258997235.html (real estate - by owner) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090709/ec9cac24/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Thu Jul 9 18:35:07 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:35:07 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER Message-ID: Very nice flyer. Very NOT the method described in the book. Janet In a message dated 7/9/2009 4:22:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Aaron at eurofixonline.com writes: Here is my flyer... Aaron Franklin,TN _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************Dell Studio XPS Desktop: Save up to $400 - Limited Time Offer (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222466512x1201463496/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D3) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090709/29a0c098/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Thu Jul 9 18:36:36 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:36:36 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? Message-ID: I got 2 responses from the paper, none from Craig's List and ALL of the rest from 20 signs I put around the area. Good Luck! Janet In a message dated 7/9/2009 4:24:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hollybookwalter at gmail.com writes: Hi, everyone. I'm doing a 5-day sale of my home in San Diego. I put the ad up through Postlets.com and then posted that ad on Craigslist (since CL doesn't allow Postlets to automatically post it for me). So far, I've received only ONE response from a person who is sincerely interested in attending. I put the ad up late last night, so I was expecting to be swamped with phone calls and emails today! If any of you would take a look at my ad and let me know if I'm doing something wrong, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'll paste the Craigslist link down below. Also, what are your thoughts on deleting an ad and reposting to get it to show up higher on the list? My assumption is that real buyers will find it as long as it's there. Opinions? Experiences? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090709/5587840c/attachment.html From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com Thu Jul 9 18:42:37 2009 From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:42:37 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER References: Message-ID: <48DAE66B1F784434BCE44DB332599A30@rosemarifv6onv> Thank you for going to the trouble of sharing this. I will be looking forward to reading about your sale. Very best of luck to you! Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: Aaron Stokes To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER Here is my flyer... Aaron Franklin,TN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090709/1131fd59/attachment.html From mpcinvestments at yahoo.com Thu Jul 9 22:52:45 2009 From: mpcinvestments at yahoo.com (Michael Careaga) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] What happened with my sale so far. Message-ID: <155397.72056.qm@web37006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I originally planned my sale for the weekend of the 27th - 28th of June but had to postpone the sale as I only received a total of 3 calls by friday.? I received another 2 calls on Saturday and one mor call the following Tuesday.? I had originally placed me advertising in the regional newspaper that covered the Nashville area and also ran another ad in a local paper that covered my county.? I also placed an ad on Craigslist but got 1 confirmed response, all others were from the regional newspaper.? After the first day and a half of no response from?craigslist I modified the ad fro about a day and still got no response.? Aaron, from this forum, is a relative neighbor living only a 45 minutes from me, suggested I go back to the original format and I agreed.? I put the ad back to the standard of approx 1/2 the expected price of the property. This did shake my wife and I a bit, but I thought it through and came to the conclusion that the newspapers in our area just won't do.? I believe the realestate advertising for the nashville area has become to fragmented to allow for any real effective choice of location to successfully advertise real estate.? Craigslist for the type and location of my home is not effective.? I understand that Aaron is having some success with his current ad running on Craigslist for his ongoing sale, but I believe that is because of the location ond price range for his home.?? I believe there is no magic bullet, one size fits all for the method of advertising of a home.? One of the most common questions I have noted on these forums are the methods of advertising used by others.? I am sorry to suggest that though possible helpfull to some, everyone needs to do a good bit of research and inovative thinking to find the right tactic for their market. I am happy to report that I have set my postponed sale for this weekend and have had what I feel are outstanding results as to the response to the advertising method I have now used.? I have gone to the low end of the advertising method in that I have created my own flyer using a graphic program tbasically recreate bills newspaper ad onto the flyer.? I did not hire anyone to get the flyeer in to anyones hands.? I have gone out with my two oldest kids and gone door to door and hang the flyer on every house I can starting with the neighbors and work my way out in an organized manner, by tomorrow I will have hung about 3,500 flyers in my area.? I DID start handing out the flyers on Tuesday as I knew I was not going to be able to hand any out on Saturday and Sunday.? In effect I will only have the advertising run up to 4 days in some homes and one day less for each area I do on Wednesday, one day less for Thursday, so on and so forth.....?? It is a somewhat hot week to be out therre but the response to the flyers was extremely gratifying.? As of tonight, the third day of my leaflet campaign, ?I have 51 confirmed responses and another 5 to 7 that have been missed calls that I have yet to make contact with. My whole family is excited at the prospects of this weekend.? After having talked at length with most callers, I have a very good feeling about the possible outcome this weekend.? As Aaron mentioned in the thread of his house sale, this is an extremely exhausting process, but is sure is fun.? I am attaching a pdf containing the flyer as well as the short description, detailed description, and rules I am sending out via e-mail to the callers.? I would appreciate any thoughts on the attachment. Something I would appreciate a response from everyone here are thoughts on any earnest money deposit requirement at the time of the signing of any sales contract.? If so, how much, if not why.? I am wondering about it and must have a desicion made on that by Friday night so that I can include any detail on the point so as to include it on the rules page or a sepearte informational notice I have document table at the inspectiuon this weekend.? All thoughts are welcome and thanks before hand to any responses. Michael p.s.? I am tired and it is kind of late so forgive any incoherances in the text above, hehe. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090709/ecfb69d0/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Lavergne property info.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 51299 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090709/ecfb69d0/attachment.pdf From mpcinvestments at yahoo.com Thu Jul 9 23:03:43 2009 From: mpcinvestments at yahoo.com (Michael Careaga) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 20:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] What happened with my sale so far. Message-ID: <410507.83677.qm@web37003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sorry about that everyone, I told you I was tired and that it was kind of late.? Attached to this post is the complet pdf, tha last was missing the coppy of the flyer I am hanging on doors. Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090709/395a0e10/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Lavergne property info 2.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 71100 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090709/395a0e10/attachment.pdf From jcrafor at hotmail.com Fri Jul 10 02:47:38 2009 From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:47:38 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] cost of advertising... MLS price In-Reply-To: <042301ca002e$ae2e83a0$0a8b8ae0$@com> References: <042301ca002e$ae2e83a0$0a8b8ae0$@com> Message-ID: The house should NOT be listed on the MLS at half price--or, anywhere else, either. Only on your ads that are specifically for the five day sale. My house is listed on the MLS and other places at full price (149,500). I'm preparing to do a 5 day sale, (end of July)and will delete my present craigslist ads which have a notice of the mls number and full price, and all my 5 day sale ads will state somehow that the BIDDING will start at (about $75000) JCrafor From: susies07 at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:46:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] cost of advertising I am having trouble getting into mls. I found a ?deal? BUT now they want a 1% commission for a buyers agent bringing a ready, willing and able buyer at my low starting price. Are they nuts? Who wouldn?t want it at ? price. Any suggestions? Susie in Asheville, NC From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:23 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] cost of advertising It's more than I paid, but not outrageous. I think you are in the right ball park. Janet In a message dated 7/7/2009 10:09:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tara at dastrup.com writes: How much did advertising cost for your 5 day sales? I'm looking at 2 newspapers (a more local one and the NY times), 2 penny savers (different areas), and yahoo realty for a total of $950 (plus some free internet sites). 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090710/aba99497/attachment.html From flyingnutjob at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 08:34:16 2009 From: flyingnutjob at gmail.com (Dutch Revenboer) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:34:16 -0500 Subject: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? In-Reply-To: <1d6780b80907081637v7958be5cxb4b961c6098848c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d6780b80907081637v7958be5cxb4b961c6098848c3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My personal experience, yes, too much info. make them call you for more info. also, change the headline, don't include the price or put ONE PENNY, or something really stupid. Always make them wanting more info, like price, terms, location, bedrooms, etc. The ad is to draw calls, not sell the house. only people who come visit the house will buy it. this works for any type of sale, not just the 5-day. it's basic marketing 101. Dutch Revenboer Broker Associate Metro Brokers of Oklahoma www.DreamHomesOKC.com 405-590-6563 We Buy Houses - www.OKCash4Homes.com We Help Stop Foreclosure - www.OKHomesavers.com We Sell / Lease Homes - Specializing in Low Down Owner Carry Properties - No Credit, Bad Credit OK - www.BuySellRentHouses.com On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Holly Bookwalter wrote: > Hi, everyone. > I'm doing a 5-day sale of my home in San Diego. I put the ad up through > Postlets.com and then posted that ad on Craigslist (since CL doesn't allow > Postlets to automatically post it for me). So far, I've received only ONE > response from a person who is sincerely interested in attending. I put the > ad up late last night, so I was expecting to be swamped with phone calls and > emails today! > > If any of you would take a look at my ad and let me know if I'm doing > something wrong, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'll paste the Craigslist link > down below. Also, what are your thoughts on deleting an ad and reposting to > get it to show up higher on the list? My assumption is that real buyers will > find it as long as it's there. Opinions? Experiences? Thanks, everyone! > > - Holly > > http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/reo/1258997235.html (real estate - by > owner) > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090710/83255505/attachment.html From tara at dastrup.com Fri Jul 10 09:54:21 2009 From: tara at dastrup.com (Tara Dastrup) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:54:21 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? In-Reply-To: <1d6780b80907081637v7958be5cxb4b961c6098848c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d6780b80907081637v7958be5cxb4b961c6098848c3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BA0@phoo.dastrup.com> The book says not to post pictures or give specific locations until they call? maybe delight the pics? ________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Holly Bookwalter [hollybookwalter at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:37 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? Hi, everyone. I'm doing a 5-day sale of my home in San Diego. I put the ad up through Postlets.com and then posted that ad on Craigslist (since CL doesn't allow Postlets to automatically post it for me). So far, I've received only ONE response from a person who is sincerely interested in attending. I put the ad up late last night, so I was expecting to be swamped with phone calls and emails today! If any of you would take a look at my ad and let me know if I'm doing something wrong, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'll paste the Craigslist link down below. Also, what are your thoughts on deleting an ad and reposting to get it to show up higher on the list? My assumption is that real buyers will find it as long as it's there. Opinions? Experiences? Thanks, everyone! - Holly http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/reo/1258997235.html (real estate - by owner) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <1d6780b80907081637v7958be5cxb4b961c6098848c3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Howdy, Now that you have placed the postlets ad in craig's list do a little market research for all of us by placing the ad just as it is in the book on Craig's list without all of the postlet information and when they call ask which ad they saw. So the ad would look like: West University Hills, San Diego By Owner Classic Spanish 3bed 1 bath $299,500 or Best Rasonable Offer Inspection Sat & Sun, July 11 & 12 Home will be sold Suday night to HIGHEST BIDDER CALL 619XXXXXXXXXXX When you reenter the postlet ad reenter this ad and see which one brings results and let us all know. Thanks, Tom Hoffman Broker/Owner Top Priority Realty, LLC Licensed in Colorado Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:34:16 -0500 From: flyingnutjob at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? My personal experience, yes, too much info. make them call you for more info. also, change the headline, don't include the price or put ONE PENNY, or something really stupid. Always make them wanting more info, like price, terms, location, bedrooms, etc. The ad is to draw calls, not sell the house. only people who come visit the house will buy it. this works for any type of sale, not just the 5-day. it's basic marketing 101. Dutch Revenboer Broker Associate Metro Brokers of Oklahoma www.DreamHomesOKC.com 405-590-6563 We Buy Houses - www.OKCash4Homes.com We Help Stop Foreclosure - www.OKHomesavers.com We Sell / Lease Homes - Specializing in Low Down Owner Carry Properties - No Credit, Bad Credit OK - www.BuySellRentHouses.com On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Holly Bookwalter wrote: Hi, everyone. I'm doing a 5-day sale of my home in San Diego. I put the ad up through Postlets.com and then posted that ad on Craigslist (since CL doesn't allow Postlets to automatically post it for me). So far, I've received only ONE response from a person who is sincerely interested in attending. I put the ad up late last night, so I was expecting to be swamped with phone calls and emails today! If any of you would take a look at my ad and let me know if I'm doing something wrong, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'll paste the Craigslist link down below. Also, what are your thoughts on deleting an ad and reposting to get it to show up higher on the list? My assumption is that real buyers will find it as long as it's there. Opinions? Experiences? Thanks, everyone! - Holly http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/reo/1258997235.html (real estate - by owner) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090710/adbb3754/attachment.html From patricialone at hotmail.com Fri Jul 10 13:44:51 2009 From: patricialone at hotmail.com (Patricia Lone) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:44:51 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? In-Reply-To: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BA0@phoo.dastrup.com> References: <1d6780b80907081637v7958be5cxb4b961c6098848c3@mail.gmail.com> <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BA0@phoo.dastrup.com> Message-ID: I recall someone had posted that Bill suggested a picture of the INSIDE of the house. The most eye pleasing part of the house (theirs was a part of the kitchen). It's enough to tease and let them see the quality of the house and get them interested but it does not give away the outside of the house so they can identify it's exact location without contacting the seller. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: tara at dastrup.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:54:21 -0600 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? The book says not to post pictures or give specific locations until they call? maybe delight the pics? From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Holly Bookwalter [hollybookwalter at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:37 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? Hi, everyone. I'm doing a 5-day sale of my home in San Diego. I put the ad up through Postlets.com and then posted that ad on Craigslist (since CL doesn't allow Postlets to automatically post it for me). So far, I've received only ONE response from a person who is sincerely interested in attending. I put the ad up late last night, so I was expecting to be swamped with phone calls and emails today! If any of you would take a look at my ad and let me know if I'm doing something wrong, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'll paste the Craigslist link down below. Also, what are your thoughts on deleting an ad and reposting to get it to show up higher on the list? My assumption is that real buyers will find it as long as it's there. Opinions? Experiences? Thanks, everyone! - Holly http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/reo/1258997235.html (real estate - by owner) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090710/033807b2/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Fri Jul 10 13:52:16 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:52:16 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? Message-ID: I remember he also stated to do this ONLY if you have a really spectacular part of the inside to show. Janet In a message dated 7/10/2009 12:45:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, patricialone at hotmail.com writes: I recall someone had posted that Bill suggested a picture of the INSIDE of the house. The most eye pleasing part of the house (theirs was a part of the kitchen). It's enough to tease and let them see the quality of the house and get them interested but it does not give away the outside of the house so they can identify it's exact location without contacting the seller. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: tara at dastrup.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:54:21 -0600 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? The book says not to post pictures or give specific locations until they call? maybe delight the pics? ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Holly Bookwalter [hollybookwalter at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:37 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Is Something Wrong with My Ad? Hi, everyone. I'm doing a 5-day sale of my home in San Diego. I put the ad up through Postlets.com and then posted that ad on Craigslist (since CL doesn't allow Postlets to automatically post it for me). So far, I've received only ONE response from a person who is sincerely interested in attending. I put the ad up late last night, so I was expecting to be swamped with phone calls and emails today! If any of you would take a look at my ad and let me know if I'm doing something wrong, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'll paste the Craigslist link down below. Also, what are your thoughts on deleting an ad and reposting to get it to show up higher on the list? My assumption is that real buyers will find it as long as it's there. Opinions? Experiences? Thanks, everyone! - Holly http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/reo/1258997235.html (real estate - by owner) = _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323031x1201367232/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JulystepsfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090710/7d56c7a1/attachment.html From grantwriter at charter.net Fri Jul 10 20:37:53 2009 From: grantwriter at charter.net (Mary Lee Dunning) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:37:53 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Subject: [5-DayForum] What happened with my sale so far. References: <155397.72056.qm@web37006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A57DEE1.000003.03772@HOMEDESK> I AM SO EXCITED BY YOUR REPORT. MLD -------Original Message------- From: Michael Careaga Date: 7/9/2009 9:53:14 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] What happened with my sale so far. I originally planned my sale for the weekend of the 27th - 28th of June but had to postpone the sale as I only received a total of 3 calls by friday. I received another 2 calls on Saturday and one mor call the following Tuesday. I had originally placed me advertising in the regional newspaper that covered the Nashville area and also ran another ad in a local paper that covered my county. I also placed an ad on Craigslist but got 1 confirmed response, all others were from the regional newspaper. After the first day and a half of no response from craigslist I modified the ad fro about a day and still got no response. Aaron, from this forum, is a relative neighbor living only a 45 minutes from me, suggested I go back to the original format and I agreed. I put the ad back to the standard of approx 1/2 the expected price of the property. This did shake my wife and I a bit, but I thought it through and came to the conclusion that the newspapers in our area just won't do. I believe the realestate advertising for the nashville area has become to fragmented to allow for any real effective choice of location to successfully advertise real estate. Craigslist for the type and location of my home is not effective. I understand that Aaron is having some success with his current ad running on Craigslist for his ongoing sale, but I believe that is because of the location ond price range for his home. I believe there is no magic bullet, one size fits all for the method of advertising of a home. One of the most common questions I have noted on these forums are the methods of advertising used by others. I am sorry to suggest that though possible helpfull to some, everyone needs to do a good bit of research and inovative thinking to find the right tactic for their market. I am happy to report that I have set my postponed sale for this weekend and have had what I feel are outstanding results as to the response to the advertising method I have now used. I have gone to the low end of the advertising method in that I have created my own flyer using a graphic program tbasically recreate bills newspaper ad onto the flyer. I did not hire anyone to get the flyeer in to anyones hands. I have gone out with my two oldest kids and gone door to door and hang the flyer on every house I can starting with the neighbors and work my way out in an organized manner, by tomorrow I will have hung about 3,500 flyers in my area. I DID start handing out the flyers on Tuesday as I knew I was not going to be able to hand any out on Saturday and Sunday. In effect I will only have the advertising run up to 4 days in some homes and one day less for each area I do on Wednesday, one day less for Thursday, so on and so forth..... It is a somewhat hot week to be out therre but the response to the flyers was extremely gratifying. As of tonight, the third day of my leaflet campaign, I have 51 confirmed responses and another 5 to 7 that have been missed calls that I have yet to make contact with. My whole family is excited at the prospects of this weekend. After having talked at length with most callers, I have a very good feeling about the possible outcome this weekend. As Aaron mentioned in the thread of his house sale, this is an extremely exhausting process, but is sure is fun. I am attaching a pdf containing the flyer as well as the short description, detailed description, and rules I am sending out via e-mail to the callers. I would appreciate any thoughts on the attachment. Something I would appreciate a response from everyone here are thoughts on any earnest money deposit requirement at the time of the signing of any sales contract. If so, how much, if not why. I am wondering about it and must have a desicion made on that by Friday night so that I can include any detail on the point so as to include it on the rules page or a sepearte informational notice I have document table at the inspectiuon this weekend. All thoughts are welcome and thanks before hand to any responses. Michael p.s. I am tired and it is kind of late so forgive any incoherances in the text above, hehe. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090710/92837767/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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MLD -------Original Message------- From: _Michael Careaga_ (mailto:mpcinvestments at yahoo.com) Date: 7/9/2009 9:53:14 PM To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Subject: [5-DayForum] What happened with my sale so far. I originally planned my sale for the weekend of the 27th - 28th of June but had to postpone the sale as I only received a total of 3 calls by friday. I received another 2 calls on Saturday and one mor call the following Tuesday. I had originally placed me advertising in the regional newspaper that covered the Nashville area and also ran another ad in a local paper that covered my county. I also placed an ad on Craigslist but got 1 confirmed response, all others were from the regional newspaper. After the first day and a half of no response from craigslist I modified the ad fro about a day and still got no response. Aaron, from this forum, is a relative neighbor living only a 45 minutes from me, suggested I go back to the original format and I agreed. I put the ad back to the standard of approx 1/2 the expected price of the property. This did shake my wife and I a bit, but I thought it through and came to the conclusion that the newspapers in our area just won't do. I believe the realestate advertising for the nashville area has become to fragmented to allow for any real effective choice of location to successfully advertise real estate. Craigslist for the type and location of my home is not effective. I understand that Aaron is having some success with his current ad running on Craigslist for his ongoing sale, but I believe that is because of the location ond price range for his home. I believe there is no magic bullet, one size fits all for the method of advertising of a home. One of the most common questions I have noted on these forums are the methods of advertising used by others. I am sorry to suggest that though possible helpfull to some, everyone needs to do a good bit of research and inovative thinking to find the right tactic for their market. I am happy to report that I have set my postponed sale for this weekend and have had what I feel are outstanding results as to the response to the advertising method I have now used. I have gone to the low end of the advertising method in that I have created my own flyer using a graphic program tbasically recreate bills newspaper ad onto the flyer. I did not hire anyone to get the flyeer in to anyones hands. I have gone out with my two oldest kids and gone door to door and hang the flyer on every house I can starting with the neighbors and work my way out in an organized manner, by tomorrow I will have hung about 3,500 flyers in my area. I DID start handing out the flyers on Tuesday as I knew I was not going to be able to hand any out on Saturday and Sunday. In effect I will only have the advertising run up to 4 days in some homes and one day less for each area I do on Wednesday, one day less for Thursday, so on and so forth..... It is a somewhat hot week to be out therre but the response to the flyers was extremely gratifying. As of tonight, the third day of my leaflet campaign, I have 51 confirmed responses and another 5 to 7 that have been missed calls that I have yet to make contact with. My whole family is excited at the prospects of this weekend. After having talked at length with most callers, I have a very good feeling about the possible outcome this weekend. As Aaron mentioned in the thread of his house sale, this is an extremely exhausting process, but is sure is fun. I am attaching a pdf containing the flyer as well as the short description, detailed description, and rules I am sending out via e-mail to the callers. I would appreciate any thoughts on the attachment. Something I would appreciate a response from everyone here are thoughts on any earnest money deposit requirement at the time of the signing of any sales contract. If so, how much, if not why. I am wondering about it and must have a desicion made on that by Friday night so that I can include any detail on the point so as to include it on the rules page or a sepearte informational notice I have document table at the inspectiuon this weekend. All thoughts are welcome and thanks before hand to any responses. Michael p.s. I am tired and it is kind of late so forgive any incoherances in the text above, hehe. _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323031x1201367232/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JulystepsfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090710/645d4e06/attachment.html From susies07 at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 22:16:53 2009 From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:16:53 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] my latest Message-ID: <014a01ca01cd$a942a100$fbc7e300$@com> I have had 4 signs maybe more stolen so far. Over 45 cakks since Wed around noon. I was late in getting my signs up. It wasn't until 2 when I was finished. Craig's list has produced a few (maybe 4 or so) don't always ask. I forget! I caught a realtor stealing my sign. She said she couldn't read the number and was going to write it down..right.. I think I may have a few good ones. Hard to tell. I have had a lot of drive by's. The problem with my house is the area is not great (somewhat run down) and my house is completely redone and nicely 2 years ago and than I have stil done a lot. Definitely the best in the neighborhood. You don't get how nice it is until you walk in. If I can just get them in the door!!!!!!!!!!!! The close proximity and ease to town and the fact that this is a transitional area (being redone slowly) has it's tribulations for sure. I am optimistic and nervious at the same time. Not easy to solisite help in 3 hr incraments either. I definitely was not going to attempt this on myown. I know better. QUESTION: Do you think I should try to limit the # of people that come in at a time? It is not a big house 14oo sq ft. Could get really crowded fast. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Oh, I started @ 114,500 in Asheville, NC Susie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090710/823ae010/attachment.html From hollybookwalter at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 23:18:20 2009 From: hollybookwalter at gmail.com (Holly Bookwalter) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:18:20 -0700 Subject: [5-DayForum] Update on Ad (was Is Something Wrong with My Ad?) Message-ID: <1d6780b80907102018y72c3082fke2b9b0f369cfffea@mail.gmail.com> Hi, everyone. I wanted to give you an update on the ad situation. First of all, thank you all SO much for your valuable input! I've canceled the open house for this weekend, but I'm certain that I'll try this again in the future for this or another house. That being said, I just briefly wanted to mention that I definitely got much better response from my more basic Craigslist ad. I took down the Postlets version and replaced it with something that looked less polished. It still had a lot of the same information, but it didn't not have the fancy Postlets background and nice HTML layout. Next time, I would definitely follow the advice here. (I'd already put the ad up again before seeing the replies, so I just left it.) In particular, I believe I would: - include a photo, but only of the interior (One caveat about why I included the exterior photo is that the house had been listed by an agent before, and a lot of people are familiar with - and were interested in - this house; I wanted them to see it was, in fact, the one they'd seen already.) - not include the actual starting bid in the ad: make it $1 (I know it's not how you do it in the newspaper, but people recognize on CL that this means "a good price, and not really one dollar") - include less information about the house Maybe this will help others using CL. Oh, I also thought I'd mention, I decided against even advertising in the paper based on a post I'd seen Bill make to the effect of the real buyers will be looking at CL. I also had been talking with an agent, recently, and he mentioned that no one really reads the paper, anymore. This is true in our area, at least. If you look at our (one) major paper for the real estate section, you'll see hardly anyone puts ads there, these days. So, I decided to save the money. OK. That's it for now. I think we've got an offer through our listing agent (from before, when it was listed; someone came back around), so we'll probably sell it to those people. But I'll be using the 5-day Sale for investment properties in the future. Thanks again, Holly -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090710/894e38e8/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sat Jul 11 08:46:08 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:46:08 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] my latest Message-ID: Stolen, taken down signs is normal. Some people just don't want them around. The realtor story is a hoot! I would not limit the # of people inside. When they talk to one another they get kind of nervous they are going to be outbid. I had people standing and waiting for each other to bid to they could top them. Just my experience. Janet In a message dated 7/10/2009 9:20:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I have had 4 signs maybe more stolen so far. Over 45 cakks since Wed around noon. I was late in getting my signs up. It wasn?t until 2 when I was finished. Craig?s list has produced a few (maybe 4 or so) don?t always ask. I forget! I caught a realtor stealing my sign. She said she couldn?t read the number and was going to write it down?.right?. I think I may have a few good ones. Hard to tell. I have had a lot of drive by?s. The problem with my house is the area is not great (somewhat run down) and my house is completely redone and nicely 2 years ago and than I have stil done a lot. Definitely the best in the neighborhood. You don?t get how nice it is until you walk in. If I can just get them in the door!!!!!!!!!!!! The close proximity and ease to town and the fact that this is a transitional area (being redone slowly) has it?s tribulations for sure. I am optimistic and nervious at the same time. Not easy to solisite help in 3 hr incraments either. I definitely was not going to attempt this on myown. I know better. QUESTION: Do you think I should try to limit the # of people that come in at a time? It is not a big house 14oo sq ft. Could get really crowded fast. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Oh, I started @ 114,500 in Asheville, NC Susie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4232 (20090710) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823300x1201398714/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JulystepsfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090711/8d466411/attachment.html From susies07 at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 09:24:24 2009 From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:24:24 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] my latest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <017101ca022a$e98b6870$bca23950$@com> So far a new call they drove by and drove off. It is really cute from the outside but inside is a wow! got to get them in. like I said before it?s the rundown neighborhood but few new nicely done redo?s. Any help is appreciated. Had a 9Am apt, so far a no show too. What to do. Only been open 25 min Nervous, Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:46 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] my latest Stolen, taken down signs is normal. Some people just don't want them around. The realtor story is a hoot! I would not limit the # of people inside. When they talk to one another they get kind of nervous they are going to be outbid. I had people standing and waiting for each other to bid to they could top them. Just my experience. Janet In a message dated 7/10/2009 9:20:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I have had 4 signs maybe more stolen so far. Over 45 cakks since Wed around noon. I was late in getting my signs up. It wasn?t until 2 when I was finished. Craig?s list has produced a few (maybe 4 or so) don?t always ask. I forget! I caught a realtor stealing my sign. She said she couldn?t read the number and was going to write it down?.right?. I think I may have a few good ones. Hard to tell. I have had a lot of drive by?s. The problem with my house is the area is not great (somewhat run down) and my house is completely redone and nicely 2 years ago and than I have stil done a lot. Definitely the best in the neighborhood. You don?t get how nice it is until you walk in. If I can just get them in the door!!!!!!!!!!!! The close proximity and ease to town and the fact that this is a transitional area (being redone slowly) has it?s tribulations for sure. I am optimistic and nervious at the same time. Not easy to solisite help in 3 hr incraments either. I definitely was not going to attempt this on myown. I know better. QUESTION: Do you think I should try to limit the # of people that come in at a time? It is not a big house 14oo sq ft. Could get really crowded fast. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Oh, I started @ 114,500 in Asheville, NC Susie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4232 (20090710) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4234 (20090711) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090711/e71df2e7/attachment.html From damian_colden at yahoo.com Sat Jul 11 10:39:35 2009 From: damian_colden at yahoo.com (Damian Colden) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] my latest In-Reply-To: <017101ca022a$e98b6870$bca23950$@com> References: <017101ca022a$e98b6870$bca23950$@com> Message-ID: <148763.35674.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> How about a handwritten sign in front that says "I'm gorgeous inside"? Dac Colden ________________________________ From: Susie To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:24:24 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] my latest So far a new call they drove by and drove off. It is really cute from the outside but inside is a wow! got to get them in. like I said before it?s the rundown neighborhood but few new nicely done redo?s. Any help is appreciated. Had a 9Am apt, so far a no show too. What to do. Only been open 25 min Nervous, Susie From:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:46 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] my latest Stolen, taken down signs is normal. Some people just don't want them around. The realtor story is a hoot! I would not limit the # of people inside. When they talk to one another they get kind of nervous they are going to be outbid. I had people standing and waiting for each other to bid to they could top them. Just my experience. Janet In a message dated 7/10/2009 9:20:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: >I have had 4 signs maybe more stolen so far. Over 45 cakks >since Wed around noon. I was late in getting my signs up. It wasn?t until 2 >when I was finished. Craig?s list has produced a few (maybe 4 or so) don?t >always ask. I forget! I caught a realtor stealing my sign. She said she >couldn?t read the number and was going to write it down?.right?. >I think I may have a few good ones. Hard to tell. I have had a >lot of drive by?s. The problem with my house is the area is not great (somewhat >run down) and my house is completely redone and nicely 2 years ago and than I >have stil done a lot. Definitely the best in the neighborhood. You don?t get >how nice it is until you walk in. If I can just get them in the >door!!!!!!!!!!!! The close proximity and ease to town and the fact that this is >a transitional area (being redone slowly) has it?s tribulations for sure. >I am optimistic and nervious at the same time. Not easy to >solisite help in 3 hr incraments either. I definitely was not going to attempt >this on myown. I know better. >QUESTION: Do you think I should try to limit the # of people >that come in at a time? It is not a big house 14oo sq ft. Could get >really crowded fast. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! >Oh, I started @ 114,500 in Asheville, NC > >Susie > > > >>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >database 4232 (20090710) __________ > >>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com/ > > >>_______________________________________________ >>5-DayForum mailing list >>5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ________________________________ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4234 (20090711) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090711/70e0eaa7/attachment.html From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com Sat Jul 11 12:44:21 2009 From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:44:21 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] my latest References: <017101ca022a$e98b6870$bca23950$@com> Message-ID: <70BC50FD37AE4F2497CE24F75538F68C@rosemarifv6onv> Do you have a traffic pattern set up? We ushered people in to collect the literature, invited them to explore the upstairs and then steered them through the living/dining into the kitchen where I was waiting with the book, the inspection, and a comfy chair for them to sit and chat with me and build some rapport with a view to how to relate to them during the Round Robin. Then the Bidding forms were on the way out with someone there to encourage that effort. If you have lots of people there this should help. Good luck Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: Susie To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] my latest So far a new call they drove by and drove off. It is really cute from the outside but inside is a wow! got to get them in. like I said before it?s the rundown neighborhood but few new nicely done redo?s. Any help is appreciated. Had a 9Am apt, so far a no show too. What to do. Only been open 25 min Nervous, Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:46 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] my latest Stolen, taken down signs is normal. Some people just don't want them around. The realtor story is a hoot! I would not limit the # of people inside. When they talk to one another they get kind of nervous they are going to be outbid. I had people standing and waiting for each other to bid to they could top them. Just my experience. Janet In a message dated 7/10/2009 9:20:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I have had 4 signs maybe more stolen so far. Over 45 cakks since Wed around noon. I was late in getting my signs up. It wasn?t until 2 when I was finished. Craig?s list has produced a few (maybe 4 or so) don?t always ask. I forget! I caught a realtor stealing my sign. She said she couldn?t read the number and was going to write it down?.right?. I think I may have a few good ones. Hard to tell. I have had a lot of drive by?s. The problem with my house is the area is not great (somewhat run down) and my house is completely redone and nicely 2 years ago and than I have stil done a lot. Definitely the best in the neighborhood. You don?t get how nice it is until you walk in. If I can just get them in the door!!!!!!!!!!!! The close proximity and ease to town and the fact that this is a transitional area (being redone slowly) has it?s tribulations for sure. I am optimistic and nervious at the same time. Not easy to solisite help in 3 hr incraments either. I definitely was not going to attempt this on myown. I know better. QUESTION: Do you think I should try to limit the # of people that come in at a time? It is not a big house 14oo sq ft. Could get really crowded fast. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Oh, I started @ 114,500 in Asheville, NC Susie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4232 (20090710) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4234 (20090711) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090711/b70fc48a/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sat Jul 11 14:29:51 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:29:51 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] my latest Message-ID: 25 minutes...... ohhhhhhmmmmmmm. Janet In a message dated 7/11/2009 8:25:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: So far a new call they drove by and drove off. It is really cute from the outside but inside is a wow! got to get them in. like I said before it?s the rundown neighborhood but few new nicely done redo?s. Any help is appreciated. Had a 9Am apt, so far a no show too. What to do. Only been open 25 min Nervous, Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:46 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] my latest Stolen, taken down signs is normal. Some people just don't want them around. The realtor story is a hoot! I would not limit the # of people inside. When they talk to one another they get kind of nervous they are going to be outbid. I had people standing and waiting for each other to bid to they could top them. Just my experience. Janet In a message dated 7/10/2009 9:20:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I have had 4 signs maybe more stolen so far. Over 45 cakks since Wed around noon. I was late in getting my signs up. It wasn?t until 2 when I was finished. Craig?s list has produced a few (maybe 4 or so) don?t always ask. I forget! I caught a realtor stealing my sign. She said she couldn?t read the number and was going to write it down?.right?. I think I may have a few good ones. Hard to tell. I have had a lot of drive by?s. The problem with my house is the area is not great (somewhat run down) and my house is completely redone and nicely 2 years ago and than I have stil done a lot. Definitely the best in the neighborhood. You don?t get how nice it is until you walk in. If I can just get them in the door!!!!!!!!!!!! The close proximity and ease to town and the fact that this is a transitional area (being redone slowly) has it?s tribulations for sure. I am optimistic and nervious at the same time. Not easy to solisite help in 3 hr incraments either. I definitely was not going to attempt this on myown. I know better. QUESTION: Do you think I should try to limit the # of people that come in at a time? It is not a big house 14oo sq ft. Could get really crowded fast. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Oh, I started @ 114,500 in Asheville, NC Susie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4232 (20090710) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ____________________________________ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. _See yours in just 2 easy steps!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823300x1201398714/aol?redir=http:/ /www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Julystepsf ooterNO62) __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4234 (20090711) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823300x1201398714/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JulystepsfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090711/2d33456f/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sat Jul 11 14:32:55 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:32:55 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] my latest Message-ID: The signs, I'm gorgeous inside sounds cute. You could also have a friend run and get a couple potted outside flowers to dress it up. I ALWAYS landscape the front of a house I'm selling. It doesn't have to be expensive or fancy. Just kind of a welcome mat of flowers. Janet In a message dated 7/11/2009 11:45:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com writes: Do you have a traffic pattern set up? We ushered people in to collect the literature, invited them to explore the upstairs and then steered them through the living/dining into the kitchen where I was waiting with the book, the inspection, and a comfy chair for them to sit and chat with me and build some rapport with a view to how to relate to them during the Round Robin. Then the Bidding forms were on the way out with someone there to encourage that effort. If you have lots of people there this should help. Good luck Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: _Susie_ (mailto:susies07 at gmail.com) To: _'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] my latest So far a new call they drove by and drove off. It is really cute from the outside but inside is a wow! got to get them in. like I said before it?s the rundown neighborhood but few new nicely done redo?s. Any help is appreciated. Had a 9Am apt, so far a no show too. What to do. Only been open 25 min Nervous, Susie From: _5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:46 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] my latest Stolen, taken down signs is normal. Some people just don't want them around. The realtor story is a hoot! I would not limit the # of people inside. When they talk to one another they get kind of nervous they are going to be outbid. I had people standing and waiting for each other to bid to they could top them. Just my experience. Janet In a message dated 7/10/2009 9:20:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I have had 4 signs maybe more stolen so far. Over 45 cakks since Wed around noon. I was late in getting my signs up. It wasn?t until 2 when I was finished. Craig?s list has produced a few (maybe 4 or so) don?t always ask. I forget! I caught a realtor stealing my sign. She said she couldn?t read the number and was going to write it down?.right?. I think I may have a few good ones. Hard to tell. I have had a lot of drive by?s. The problem with my house is the area is not great (somewhat run down) and my house is completely redone and nicely 2 years ago and than I have stil done a lot. Definitely the best in the neighborhood. You don?t get how nice it is until you walk in. If I can just get them in the door!!!!!!!!!!!! The close proximity and ease to town and the fact that this is a transitional area (being redone slowly) has it?s tribulations for sure. I am optimistic and nervious at the same time. Not easy to solisite help in 3 hr incraments either. I definitely was not going to attempt this on myown. I know better. QUESTION: Do you think I should try to limit the # of people that come in at a time? It is not a big house 14oo sq ft. Could get really crowded fast. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Oh, I started @ 114,500 in Asheville, NC Susie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4232 (20090710) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ____________________________________ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. _See yours in just 2 easy steps!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823300x1201398714/aol?redir=http:/ /www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Julystepsf ooterNO62) __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4234 (20090711) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) ____________________________________ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823300x1201398714/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JulystepsfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090711/0d38d08c/attachment.html From susies07 at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 16:04:11 2009 From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:04:11 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] my latest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <019d01ca0262$c2e46900$48ad3b00$@com> I have lots of flowers, looks nice. I did put up the sign? I?m gorgeous inside, come in 9-6. Had 17 people last shift 12-3. Raining now so it?s quiet. Have 4 bids and 7 people on the list. I started @ 114,500 and it is up to 120,000. I told them I would not call if there wasn?t a bid. I also am gathering email addresses to send the inspection report. I have house copies for them to look at. Saving paper and time. I can see I need another trip to Kinko?s tonight. I have a very specific pattern I take people on? or have then travel. Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:33 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] my latest The signs, I'm gorgeous inside sounds cute. You could also have a friend run and get a couple potted outside flowers to dress it up. I ALWAYS landscape the front of a house I'm selling. It doesn't have to be expensive or fancy. Just kind of a welcome mat of flowers. Janet In a message dated 7/11/2009 11:45:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com writes: Do you have a traffic pattern set up? We ushered people in to collect the literature, invited them to explore the upstairs and then steered them through the living/dining into the kitchen where I was waiting with the book, the inspection, and a comfy chair for them to sit and chat with me and build some rapport with a view to how to relate to them during the Round Robin. Then the Bidding forms were on the way out with someone there to encourage that effort. If you have lots of people there this should help. Good luck Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: Susie To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] my latest So far a new call they drove by and drove off. It is really cute from the outside but inside is a wow! got to get them in. like I said before it?s the rundown neighborhood but few new nicely done redo?s. Any help is appreciated. Had a 9Am apt, so far a no show too. What to do. Only been open 25 min Nervous, Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:46 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] my latest Stolen, taken down signs is normal. Some people just don't want them around. The realtor story is a hoot! I would not limit the # of people inside. When they talk to one another they get kind of nervous they are going to be outbid. I had people standing and waiting for each other to bid to they could top them. Just my experience. Janet In a message dated 7/10/2009 9:20:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: I have had 4 signs maybe more stolen so far. Over 45 cakks since Wed around noon. I was late in getting my signs up. It wasn?t until 2 when I was finished. Craig?s list has produced a few (maybe 4 or so) don?t always ask. I forget! I caught a realtor stealing my sign. She said she couldn?t read the number and was going to write it down?.right?. I think I may have a few good ones. Hard to tell. I have had a lot of drive by?s. The problem with my house is the area is not great (somewhat run down) and my house is completely redone and nicely 2 years ago and than I have stil done a lot. Definitely the best in the neighborhood. You don?t get how nice it is until you walk in. If I can just get them in the door!!!!!!!!!!!! The close proximity and ease to town and the fact that this is a transitional area (being redone slowly) has it?s tribulations for sure. I am optimistic and nervious at the same time. Not easy to solisite help in 3 hr incraments either. I definitely was not going to attempt this on myown. I know better. QUESTION: Do you think I should try to limit the # of people that come in at a time? It is not a big house 14oo sq ft. Could get really crowded fast. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Oh, I started @ 114,500 in Asheville, NC Susie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4232 (20090710) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090711/d6b7d1dc/attachment.html From gantonj at yahoo.com Sat Jul 11 12:27:44 2009 From: gantonj at yahoo.com (Julie Ganton) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER Message-ID: <690683.923.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Aaron, How do you get people's name and address to send out your flyers? Thank you for sharing the details of your sale. I do wish that more people would do this. Sincerely, Julie --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Aaron Stokes wrote: > From: Aaron Stokes > Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER > To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:53 PM > > > > > > > > Here is my > flyer... > ? > Aaron > Franklin,TN > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > From gantonj at yahoo.com Sat Jul 11 12:29:14 2009 From: gantonj at yahoo.com (Julie Ganton) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] Anyone in Michigan Message-ID: <215203.35222.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is there anyone in Michigan that has tried this? If so, any advertising advice? From tlqness at yahoo.com Sun Jul 12 00:19:21 2009 From: tlqness at yahoo.com (Terri Quenzer) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] Help! Message-ID: <70437.70077.qm@web53504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> It's Saturday night and we are in the middle of a 5-Day sale. We expect to sell our house at around $600,000, so we priced it at $299,500.?Our advertising was successful - we received close to 120 responses by last night (Friday night) and had at least 40 people inspect the house today. The problem is that by 5 pm today, the bidding was only at $306,000. People are only bidding in $500 - $1000 increments. Is this normal? Will the serious buyers bring it up to market value or will they keep inching it up at minimal increments? Is there anything we can do to get larger jumps in the bidding? Please send any suggestions!!! Thanks!!! Terri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090711/4fc43670/attachment.html From damian_colden at yahoo.com Sun Jul 12 06:37:03 2009 From: damian_colden at yahoo.com (Damian Colden) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] Help! In-Reply-To: <70437.70077.qm@web53504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <70437.70077.qm@web53504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <729185.6276.qm@web53101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> The bid sheets are used to determine the order of phone calls for the Round Robin. Bidding really does not start until then. Dac Colden ________________________________ From: Terri Quenzer To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:19:21 AM Subject: [5-DayForum] Help! It's Saturday night and we are in the middle of a 5-Day sale. We expect to sell our house at around $600,000, so we priced it at $299,500. Our advertising was successful - we received close to 120 responses by last night (Friday night) and had at least 40 people inspect the house today. The problem is that by 5 pm today, the bidding was only at $306,000. People are only bidding in $500 - $1000 increments. Is this normal? Will the serious buyers bring it up to market value or will they keep inching it up at minimal increments? Is there anything we can do to get larger jumps in the bidding? Please send any suggestions!!! Thanks!!! Terri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090712/086a2b32/attachment.html From bill at effros.com Sun Jul 12 07:40:22 2009 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:40:22 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Help! In-Reply-To: <70437.70077.qm@web53504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <70437.70077.qm@web53504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A59CBA6.5010703@effros.com> Terri, This is completely normal. Don't worry about it. (Ha, ha -- of course you are going to worry about it -- I would, too, at this point in a 5-Day Sale. But this is what most of them look like. The buyers are trying to find out if you are a cheat, or if you really plan to sell your home for the high bid. Don't do anything to jump the bid. Let people bid less than $299,500 if they want to. You will get as much as anyone can get for your home this weekend. They will sort themselves out, and the real buyers will pop out of the crowd tonight.) I can't tell you if your home is worth $600,000 this weekend, but I can tell you that everyone who responded knew it was worth substantially more than $300,000. If you continue to play the 5-Day Method "straight" -- no weaseling, no false bids, you will sell your home tonight for the most you can get. Work with the high bidder, no matter what the final bid. If the high bid is $675,000 there is no problem. You'll try to close as fast as you can. But what if the high bid is $400,000? First of all you must deal with the fact that that is the current value of your home regardless of what you paid for it, or how much you have in it. You are running your 5-Day Sale properly, and you WILL get the high bid; like it or not. Let's say your mortgage is $450,000. You tell the high bidder you will take the $400,000 offer to the bank. If the bank won't take it, you can't close. The bank and the high bidder can see if they can arrive at a deal both will accept. If not, you must decide what you are going to do next. If you decide to keep the house, you have decided, in effect, to outbid all the buyers in the hope your home will be worth more in the future. Over the past 2 years almost everyone who has run a 5-Day Sale properly has lost money when they outbid all the buyers. The 5-Day Method, the way you are running it, will deliver all of the best current buyers to your doorstep and they WILL bid against each other if they believe you are really going to follow through. Once you have identified the top buyer, and the highest bid, it is up to you and the buyer to "close" the deal which will involve issues with your bank, the buyer's bank, etc. But you will know exactly what your home is worth in the current market, and you will put the most money in your pocket if you simply proceed and let the chips fall where they may. What you are seeing IS normal. A lot will happen over the next 12 hours. Bill Effros Author Terri Quenzer wrote: > It's Saturday night and we are in the middle of a 5-Day sale. We > expect to sell our house at around $600,000, so we priced it at > $299,500. Our advertising was successful - we received close to 120 > responses by last night (Friday night) and had at least 40 people > inspect the house today. The problem is that by 5 pm today, the > bidding was only at $306,000. People are only bidding in $500 - $1000 > increments. Is this normal? Will the serious buyers bring it up to > market value or will they keep inching it up at minimal increments? Is > there anything we can do to get larger jumps in the bidding? Please > send any suggestions!!! > > Thanks!!! > Terri > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have had four bidders specifically say they really want the house and two came back with family and or friends a second time. Two stated they have already been preapproved for financing, The whole thing today was a blast. Anyway, I only got the chance to deliver a total of about 2000 flyers in the neighborhood and have gotten a total of 60 calls as of today. I delivered them on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. I had planned to go out Friday but with all the work needed to prepare for all the last minute details of the sale, I didn't get the chance. I do have a craigslist ad I put out this evening for today and tomorrow. The ad can be found here http://nashville.craigslist.org/reo/1264283479.html. I will post the results of tomorrow as soon as I can. Until tomorrow. Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm telling everyone to bid then I will make a decision if they are the winner. So that I will have the most bidders included. And because some of them have some workable ideas.... I gave my 5 helpers a basic tour to memorize. Once they came to the front door I met them, gave them copies of all of the info and handed them off to one of my buddies... then they started our "route" through the home then out to the barn etc.... once completed they let them mosey around and take it all in... then they came and saw me at the end for the bidding etc... several signed up and said they would call tonight or come back tomorrow and see the house again and bid. I just said OK.... I didn't give any pressure and just taught about the home etc.... Then around 3 pm I got an email from an earlier visitor for 350k.... So that was good. And encouraging... I started getting nervous and stressed thinking about having to move all my crap back in and having to face defeat, so I started re-cleaning windows etc... All my buddies laughed at me.... Oh well. We had a slide show running on the plasma showing construction of the home and pictures of big parties.... Had the rules blown up and on the wall in the kitchen... Then had the fridge cleaned out and stocked with drinks for the guests.... food on the counter and music playing... Every light on and flowers everywhere.... It had a good feel.... I just found out that some had not gotten my email on friday.... So I had to re-call and confirm with some.... And it sprinkled most the day.... which was a bummer.... several said they almost didn't come so I'm sure that slowed me down on showings..... We ended up with 13 showings today.... I expected atleast 30.... oh well hopefully weather related. I wonder if it's common to have more on one day than the other? I hope sunday is bigger. Honestly it would be hard to have had much more though. We went out for pizza and just brought the kids home and put them straight to bed. I told my wife "no baths, put them straight to bed"... I was done. Laying on my bed and looking around I'm realizing that I am becoming detached from the house... It's a weird feeling. I'm taking a leap of faith here. But I believe it was no accident that I found this book and that God is in this for me all the way. I truly believe we will do well on this, I just need to learn to remember this confidence when things are slow. part 3 will be soon..... Aaron Franklin, Tenn From mpcinvestments at yahoo.com Sun Jul 12 09:44:35 2009 From: mpcinvestments at yahoo.com (Michael Careaga) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] What happened with my sale so far. Message-ID: <315905.2789.qm@web37002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In my previous post lising the address of the craigslist ad the period at the end of the sentence wass added to the web adress of the location so you will get the 404 error that the page can not be found. For the Craigslist ad go to http://nashville.craigslist.org/reo/1264283479.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090712/ce61c3ce/attachment.html From tlqness at yahoo.com Sun Jul 12 11:33:28 2009 From: tlqness at yahoo.com (Terri Quenzer) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] Thank You!!! Message-ID: <310968.55574.qm@web53510.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Bill, Thank you for posting such a detailed response to my question of last night! It gives me confidence that I've done my part correctly and that it's now up to the market. I'm really excited to see how this turns out tonight!!! Thanks again!!! Terri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090712/1d84140d/attachment.html From susies07 at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 13:25:19 2009 From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:25:19 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! Message-ID: <003401ca0315$bb9b15a0$32d140e0$@com> OK, I am trying NOT to panic BUT it is 1:20 Sunday afternoon. Signs still up, new ad on Craig's list (which brought several yesterday) and only had 4 people this Am and all were looking for a real deal or investment (not here). I have 4 bids from yesterday and had probably 7-9 calls this Am. 1 turned around and left a few min ago.maybe more. need a note of encouragement. Lots of church goers and lunch afterwards in these parts. but still not everyone! Most of the calls today were from investors, builder, realtor. Susie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090712/8908c282/attachment.html From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com Sun Jul 12 14:32:35 2009 From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:32:35 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! References: <003401ca0315$bb9b15a0$32d140e0$@com> Message-ID: <725157AE19E54CD38920EE67ADFEA236@rosemarifv6onv> During my successful sale, the buyer actually showed up at 4:45 pm Sunday. NO ONE came for all Sunday morning and I thought we were dead in the water. Take heart! Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: Susie To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! OK, I am trying NOT to panic BUT it is 1:20 Sunday afternoon. Signs still up, new ad on Craig's list (which brought several yesterday) and only had 4 people this Am and all were looking for a real deal or investment (not here). I have 4 bids from yesterday and had probably 7-9 calls this Am. 1 turned around and left a few min ago.maybe more. need a note of encouragement. Lots of church goers and lunch afterwards in these parts. but still not everyone! Most of the calls today were from investors, builder, realtor. Susie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4237 (20090712) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090712/cda3ba1a/attachment.html From susies07 at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 14:41:49 2009 From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:41:49 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <725157AE19E54CD38920EE67ADFEA236@rosemarifv6onv> References: <003401ca0315$bb9b15a0$32d140e0$@com> <725157AE19E54CD38920EE67ADFEA236@rosemarifv6onv> Message-ID: <003f01ca0320$6b5b41e0$4211c5a0$@com> Ahhhhh, thanks From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of rosemarie-fred Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:33 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! During my successful sale, the buyer actually showed up at 4:45 pm Sunday. NO ONE came for all Sunday morning and I thought we were dead in the water. Take heart! Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: Susie To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! OK, I am trying NOT to panic BUT it is 1:20 Sunday afternoon. Signs still up, new ad on Craig's list (which brought several yesterday) and only had 4 people this Am and all were looking for a real deal or investment (not here). I have 4 bids from yesterday and had probably 7-9 calls this Am. 1 turned around and left a few min ago.maybe more. need a note of encouragement. Lots of church goers and lunch afterwards in these parts. but still not everyone! Most of the calls today were from investors, builder, realtor. Susie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4237 (20090712) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _____ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4237 (20090712) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090712/3ca0b1d3/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sun Jul 12 18:25:18 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:25:18 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Help! Message-ID: You have probably gotten some very good answers to this..... but, I told people on Sunday afternoon... "Let's get serious. If you really want this house I don't want to have to call you 500 times to get $500 bids. And I said it in the nicest sweetest way possible, and people really responded. Good Luck, Janet In a message dated 7/11/2009 11:20:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tlqness at yahoo.com writes: It's Saturday night and we are in the middle of a 5-Day sale. We expect to sell our house at around $600,000, so we priced it at $299,500. Our advertising was successful - we received close to 120 responses by last night (Friday night) and had at least 40 people inspect the house today. The problem is that by 5 pm today, the bidding was only at $306,000. People are only bidding in $500 - $1000 increments. Is this normal? Will the serious buyers bring it up to market value or will they keep inching it up at minimal increments? Is there anything we can do to get larger jumps in the bidding? Please send any suggestions!!! Thanks!!! Terri _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377098x1201454399/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090712/2f38bc16/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sun Jul 12 18:32:17 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:32:17 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! Message-ID: You only have 4 bids?? Giving you a hug. Janet In a message dated 7/12/2009 12:26:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: OK, I am trying NOT to panic BUT it is 1:20 Sunday afternoon. Signs still up, new ad on Craig?s list (which brought several yesterday) and only had 4 people this Am and all were looking for a real deal or investment (not here). I have 4 bids from yesterday and had probably 7-9 calls this Am. 1 turned around and left a few min ago?maybe more? need a note of encouragement. Lots of church goers and lunch afterwards in these parts? but still not everyone! Most of the calls today were from investors, builder, realtor. 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090712/9900e053/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Mon Jul 13 08:25:56 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:25:56 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! Message-ID: Well, it's Monday morning.... how'd you end up? Janet In a message dated 7/12/2009 5:33:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Janetislight at aol.com writes: You only have 4 bids?? Giving you a hug. Janet In a message dated 7/12/2009 12:26:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: OK, I am trying NOT to panic BUT it is 1:20 Sunday afternoon. Signs still up, new ad on Craig?s list (which brought several yesterday) and only had 4 people this Am and all were looking for a real deal or investment (not here). I have 4 bids from yesterday and had probably 7-9 calls this Am. 1 turned around and left a few min ago?maybe more? need a note of encouragement. Lots of church goers and lunch afterwards in these parts? but still not everyone! Most of the calls today were from investors, builder, realtor. 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585090x1201462820/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090713/ef96fc45/attachment.html From susies07 at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 09:12:43 2009 From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:12:43 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000a01ca03bb$9c4cd890$d4e689b0$@com> TIRED! I did sell it and not for what I would have liked or what 2 realtors thought but I panicked in this market. The buyer is pre qualified which is at least a start and willing to close soon. 196 is where I ended. If it weren?t for this whacky neighborhood it would not have been such a problem. Most people drove off. It is absolutely darling on the inside, cute outside but a WOW when you get in. 10? ceilings, crown molding everywhere, 42? cabinets (wood) in the kitchen which is huge, master is 15.8 X 13.7 with fireplace (not working) The house was built in apx 1908. Lots of charm and open with lots of light. If it were in any other location it would have been 350. Need to get under contract today. It?s only talk until then. How about you? And where are you? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:26 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! Well, it's Monday morning.... how'd you end up? Janet In a message dated 7/12/2009 5:33:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Janetislight at aol.com writes: You only have 4 bids?? Giving you a hug. Janet In a message dated 7/12/2009 12:26:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: OK, I am trying NOT to panic BUT it is 1:20 Sunday afternoon. Signs still up, new ad on Craig?s list (which brought several yesterday) and only had 4 people this Am and all were looking for a real deal or investment (not here). I have 4 bids from yesterday and had probably 7-9 calls this Am. 1 turned around and left a few min ago?maybe more? need a note of encouragement. Lots of church goers and lunch afterwards in these parts? but still not everyone! Most of the calls today were from investors, builder, realtor. 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090713/6e9ee6a6/attachment.html From susies07 at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 09:15:04 2009 From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:15:04 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <725157AE19E54CD38920EE67ADFEA236@rosemarifv6onv> References: <003401ca0315$bb9b15a0$32d140e0$@com> <725157AE19E54CD38920EE67ADFEA236@rosemarifv6onv> Message-ID: <001201ca03bb$f08e8480$d1ab8d80$@com> I wound up selling to the 2nd person who saw it Sat. She came back yesterday with friends. I only had 4 bidders and soon 3. didn't get exactly what I was hoping for or as close as I would have liked but considering the market and my location, I went for it. Thanks for your help. Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of rosemarie-fred Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:33 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! During my successful sale, the buyer actually showed up at 4:45 pm Sunday. NO ONE came for all Sunday morning and I thought we were dead in the water. Take heart! Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: Susie To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! OK, I am trying NOT to panic BUT it is 1:20 Sunday afternoon. Signs still up, new ad on Craig's list (which brought several yesterday) and only had 4 people this Am and all were looking for a real deal or investment (not here). I have 4 bids from yesterday and had probably 7-9 calls this Am. 1 turned around and left a few min ago.maybe more. need a note of encouragement. Lots of church goers and lunch afterwards in these parts. but still not everyone! Most of the calls today were from investors, builder, realtor. 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090713/1a19076b/attachment.html From mpcinvestments at yahoo.com Mon Jul 13 09:16:49 2009 From: mpcinvestments at yahoo.com (Michael Careaga) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] What happened with my sale so far. (Michael Careaga) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <347156.80827.qm@web37001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It's done.? What a night.? The round robbin went for two and a half hours.? In the end I received the target price od $110,000, double my ad price of $54,500.? I have to be honest in saying I would have liked another 5 of 10 thousand, but my wife and I had said that a successfull sale would have been at least $110,000.? Given the facct that this was my first real attempt at a sale of this kind, we did alright.? We are happy. ? I am reasonable certain that we could have gotten another $5,000 had we gotten the process more efficiently planned from our part.? That is good news to us as I plan on using this sale to relaunch my house flipping business in Tennessee.? I was a house flipper in California before the lunacy of the last bull market crashed.? I did get out in time and now that I know the local middle Tennessee markets, especially the location of this sale, I feel confident that we can make a good go of it.? I did ask everyone that was in the sale after they withdrew if they would like to be invovled with the next sale I held and to a person they all said yes. ? The sale went slowly at first with everyone bidding only the required minimum advance of $500.? We had gotten a high initial bid of $80,000 at the very end of the Sunday inspection.? I did end up staying late as people just kept coming from 4:00pm through 7:00pm....How do you say no to someone who walks in while you are still with another prospective bidded.? With my families help, we got everything ready for the round robbin by 7:50pm at home and started on time at 8:00pm in any case. ? Homes in the local market are not getting over $118,000 and are taking from 6 to 14 months to sell.? I had previously had the house on the market for 9 months and nary a bite.? To be honest I had only had the property listed for the standard 6 months, but I discovered just yesterday that the house was still on the MLS.? The realtor had never taken the house off the market, something I was not very happy about.? I must call him today and make sure he removes it from the listings.? The original listing price had been $139,500 and had been set by the RE agent.? At the end of the 6 month listing, he had recomended that I list the property at $119,500.? It is on this basis that I came to the conclusion that a sale price of $110,000 was a successfull sale for the 5-day sale of my house.? Figuring the 6% agent fee plus the cost of carrying the property for another 6 months minimum the effective sale price would have to have been approx $124,000. ? In conclusion, I am ready to do use the 5-day sale process again on the next house I remodel.? That will be my own personal home. ? Michael Careaga -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090713/243a6f75/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Mon Jul 13 09:18:00 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:18:00 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! Message-ID: LOL, I didn't find the process exhausting at all. But I've been in sales my whole life and have put together parties for up to 500 people. I'm in Iowa. Peak price for the house I sold was 154,900... I received 152,000. Was very happy with the outcome as I saved so much in commissions. I have two more houses almost finished and am trying to get them on the market ASAP. The exact closing date on my house should be coming soon. Janet In a message dated 7/13/2009 8:13:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: TIRED! I did sell it and not for what I would have liked or what 2 realtors thought but I panicked in this market. The buyer is pre qualified which is at least a start and willing to close soon. 196 is where I ended. If it weren?t for this whacky neighborhood it would not have been such a problem. Most people drove off. It is absolutely darling on the inside, cute outside but a WOW when you get in. 10? ceilings, crown molding everywhere, 42? cabinets (wood) in the kitchen which is huge, master is 15.8 X 13.7 with fireplace (not working) The house was built in apx 1908. Lots of charm and open with lots of light. If it were in any other location it would have been 350. Need to get under contract today. It?s only talk until then. How about you? And where are you? Susie From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:26 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] HELP!!!!!! Well, it's Monday morning.... how'd you end up? Janet In a message dated 7/12/2009 5:33:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Janetislight at aol.com writes: You only have 4 bids?? Giving you a hug. Janet In a message dated 7/12/2009 12:26:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: OK, I am trying NOT to panic BUT it is 1:20 Sunday afternoon. Signs still up, new ad on Craig?s list (which brought several yesterday) and only had 4 people this Am and all were looking for a real deal or investment (not here). I have 4 bids from yesterday and had probably 7-9 calls this Am. 1 turned around and left a few min ago?maybe more? need a note of encouragement. Lots of church goers and lunch afterwards in these parts? but still not everyone! Most of the calls today were from investors, builder, realtor. Susie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4237 (20090712) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ____________________________________ An Excellent Credit Score is 750. _See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377098x1201454399/aol?redir=http://ww w.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=JulyExcfooter NO62) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ____________________________________ An Excellent Credit Score is 750. _See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585090x1201462820/aol?redir=http://ww w.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=JulyExcfooter NO62) __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4238 (20090713) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585090x1201462820/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090713/ca929916/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Mon Jul 13 09:23:10 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:23:10 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] What happened with my sale so far. (Michael Careaga) Message-ID: Congratulations!!!!! I am so very happy that you are happy with your sale! Sleep like a baby now, ok? I too am a house flipper and fortunately am in a stable market. There are still foreclosures out there with a great price, so once I settle this one I will again be on the hunt. Plus I have two others almost finished. I am so glad to see all the positive responses to using this method. Way to GO!!!!!! Janet In a message dated 7/13/2009 8:17:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mpcinvestments at yahoo.com writes: It's done. What a night. The round robbin went for two and a half hours. In the end I received the target price od $110,000, double my ad price of $54,500. I have to be honest in saying I would have liked another 5 of 10 thousand, but my wife and I had said that a successfull sale would have been at least $110,000. Given the facct that this was my first real attempt at a sale of this kind, we did alright. We are happy. I am reasonable certain that we could have gotten another $5,000 had we gotten the process more efficiently planned from our part. That is good news to us as I plan on using this sale to relaunch my house flipping business in Tennessee. I was a house flipper in California before the lunacy of the last bull market crashed. I did get out in time and now that I know the local middle Tennessee markets, especially the location of this sale, I feel confident that we can make a good go of it. I did ask everyone that was in the sale after they withdrew if they would like to be invovled with the next sale I held and to a person they all said yes. The sale went slowly at first with everyone bidding only the required minimum advance of $500. We had gotten a high initial bid of $80,000 at the very end of the Sunday inspection. I did end up staying late as people just kept coming from 4:00pm through 7:00pm....How do you say no to someone who walks in while you are still with another prospective bidded. With my families help, we got everything ready for the round robbin by 7:50pm at home and started on time at 8:00pm in any case. Homes in the local market are not getting over $118,000 and are taking from 6 to 14 months to sell. I had previously had the house on the market for 9 months and nary a bite. To be honest I had only had the property listed for the standard 6 months, but I discovered just yesterday that the house was still on the MLS. The realtor had never taken the house off the market, something I was not very happy about. I must call him today and make sure he removes it from the listings. The original listing price had been $139,500 and had been set by the RE agent. At the end of the 6 month listing, he had recomended that I list the property at $119,500. It is on this basis that I came to the conclusion that a sale price of $110,000 was a successfull sale for the 5-day sale of my house. Figuring the 6% agent fee plus the cost of carrying the property for another 6 months minimum the effective sale price would have to have been approx $124,000. In conclusion, I am ready to do use the 5-day sale process again on the next house I remodel. That will be my own personal home. Michael Careaga _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585090x1201462820/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090713/5956f18f/attachment.html From Aaron at eurofixonline.com Mon Jul 13 13:07:40 2009 From: Aaron at eurofixonline.com (Aaron Stokes) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:07:40 -0500 Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER References: <690683.923.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Julie, your local mail house can get that for you. Call a local print shop and they can tell you who they use for mail services. Most mail houses work for other businesses so they are not heavily advertised.... Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Ganton" To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER > > Aaron, > > How do you get people's name and address to send out your flyers? > > Thank you for sharing the details of your sale. I do wish that more > people would do this. > > Sincerely, > Julie > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Aaron Stokes wrote: > >> From: Aaron Stokes >> Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:53 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Here is my >> flyer... >> >> Aaron >> Franklin,TN >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> > > > > > > From tara at dastrup.com Mon Jul 13 13:59:57 2009 From: tara at dastrup.com (Tara Dastrup) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:59:57 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER In-Reply-To: References: <690683.923.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BA9@phoo.dastrup.com> Maybe I missed it, but isn't your sale finished Aaron? How did it go? We're going to do ours in 2 weeks. Thanks tara ________________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Stokes [Aaron at eurofixonline.com] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:07 AM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER Julie, your local mail house can get that for you. Call a local print shop and they can tell you who they use for mail services. Most mail houses work for other businesses so they are not heavily advertised.... Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Ganton" To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER > > Aaron, > > How do you get people's name and address to send out your flyers? > > Thank you for sharing the details of your sale. I do wish that more > people would do this. > > Sincerely, > Julie > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Aaron Stokes wrote: > >> From: Aaron Stokes >> Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:53 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Here is my >> flyer... >> >> Aaron >> Franklin,TN >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From susies07 at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 14:22:03 2009 From: susies07 at gmail.com (Susie) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:22:03 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER In-Reply-To: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BA9@phoo.dastrup.com> References: <690683.923.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BA9@phoo.dastrup.com> Message-ID: <009901ca03e6$d2abb430$78031c90$@com> Signs (hand made) did it for me and Craig's list! If I had it to do over I would do even more signs (down town, 6 min away). This system works, even in my case. Susie -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Tara Dastrup Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:00 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER Maybe I missed it, but isn't your sale finished Aaron? How did it go? We're going to do ours in 2 weeks. Thanks tara ________________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Stokes [Aaron at eurofixonline.com] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:07 AM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER Julie, your local mail house can get that for you. Call a local print shop and they can tell you who they use for mail services. Most mail houses work for other businesses so they are not heavily advertised.... Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Ganton" To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER > > Aaron, > > How do you get people's name and address to send out your flyers? > > Thank you for sharing the details of your sale. I do wish that more > people would do this. > > Sincerely, > Julie > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Aaron Stokes wrote: > >> From: Aaron Stokes >> Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:53 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Here is my >> flyer... >> >> Aaron >> Franklin,TN >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4240 (20090713) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4240 (20090713) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From JUDYHYMAN at aol.com Mon Jul 13 14:38:11 2009 From: JUDYHYMAN at aol.com (JUDYHYMAN at aol.com) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:38:11 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 28, Issue 14 REMOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090713/626d6346/attachment.html From Aaron at eurofixonline.com Mon Jul 13 16:42:11 2009 From: Aaron at eurofixonline.com (Aaron Stokes) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:42:11 -0500 Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER References: <690683.923.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BA9@phoo.dastrup.com> Message-ID: <84E7E7C0D0F84EFAB5E7C8E863D4D183@aaroncomputer> It is finished kinda.... I am still negotiating with the high bidder I will let everyone know the details soon as it's done.... Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tara Dastrup" To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER > Maybe I missed it, but isn't your sale finished Aaron? How did it go? > We're going to do ours in 2 weeks. Thanks > tara > > ________________________________________ > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] > On Behalf Of Aaron Stokes [Aaron at eurofixonline.com] > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:07 AM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER > > Julie, your local mail house can get that for you. Call a local print shop > and they can tell you who they use for mail services. Most mail houses > work > for other businesses so they are not heavily advertised.... > > > Aaron > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julie Ganton" > To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" > <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER > > >> >> Aaron, >> >> How do you get people's name and address to send out your flyers? >> >> Thank you for sharing the details of your sale. I do wish that more >> people would do this. >> >> Sincerely, >> Julie >> >> --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Aaron Stokes wrote: >> >>> From: Aaron Stokes >>> Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER >>> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:53 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Here is my >>> flyer... >>> >>> Aaron >>> Franklin,TN >>> >>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > From Janetislight at aol.com Mon Jul 13 17:23:23 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:23:23 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER Message-ID: The signs were key for me as well. Craig's List was zip. What's the song..... signs, signs everywhere...... LOL Janet In a message dated 7/13/2009 1:22:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, susies07 at gmail.com writes: Signs (hand made) did it for me and Craig's list! If I had it to do over I would do even more signs (down town, 6 min away). This system works, even in my case. Susie -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Tara Dastrup Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:00 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER Maybe I missed it, but isn't your sale finished Aaron? How did it go? We're going to do ours in 2 weeks. Thanks tara ________________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Stokes [Aaron at eurofixonline.com] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:07 AM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER Julie, your local mail house can get that for you. Call a local print shop and they can tell you who they use for mail services. Most mail houses work for other businesses so they are not heavily advertised.... Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Ganton" To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER > > Aaron, > > How do you get people's name and address to send out your flyers? > > Thank you for sharing the details of your sale. I do wish that more > people would do this. > > Sincerely, > Julie > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Aaron Stokes wrote: > >> From: Aaron Stokes >> Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:53 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Here is my >> flyer... >> >> Aaron >> Franklin,TN >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4240 (20090713) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4240 (20090713) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. 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See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585090x1201462820/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090713/9c57cab9/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Mon Jul 13 17:27:07 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:27:07 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER Message-ID: Oh please so let us know. You used a totally different method. It will be good to hear how everything works for you. Details, details, details. Janet In a message dated 7/13/2009 3:43:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Aaron at eurofixonline.com writes: It is finished kinda.... I am still negotiating with the high bidder I will let everyone know the details soon as it's done.... Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tara Dastrup" To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER > Maybe I missed it, but isn't your sale finished Aaron? How did it go? > We're going to do ours in 2 weeks. Thanks > tara > > ________________________________________ > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] > On Behalf Of Aaron Stokes [Aaron at eurofixonline.com] > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:07 AM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER > > Julie, your local mail house can get that for you. Call a local print shop > and they can tell you who they use for mail services. Most mail houses > work > for other businesses so they are not heavily advertised.... > > > Aaron > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julie Ganton" > To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" > <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER > > >> >> Aaron, >> >> How do you get people's name and address to send out your flyers? >> >> Thank you for sharing the details of your sale. I do wish that more >> people would do this. >> >> Sincerely, >> Julie >> >> --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Aaron Stokes wrote: >> >>> From: Aaron Stokes >>> Subject: [5-DayForum] BIG HOUSE BIG BARN 8 ACRES ---- FLYER >>> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:53 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Here is my >>> flyer... >>> >>> Aaron >>> Franklin,TN >>> >>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585090x1201462820/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090713/f8114f92/attachment.html From rhondawillis at live.com Mon Jul 13 18:05:02 2009 From: rhondawillis at live.com (Rhonda Willis) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:05:02 -0500 Subject: [5-DayForum] round robin bidding Message-ID: I have read Bill's book but am still confused by the round robin bidding part. From what I understand, you have the people who come view your house write open bids down on a piece of paper. Then you put them in order by amount offered. The next part I'm unsure of. Whom do you call first for the RR bidding? Will it always be the same order? Please explain. Thanks, Rhonda _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090713/fdbaa300/attachment.html From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com Tue Jul 14 07:16:38 2009 From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:16:38 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] round robin bidding References: Message-ID: Call them in order of their bid - highest first. I think there is a long explanation in the archives - it is a benefit to be called first. Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: Rhonda Willis To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] round robin bidding I have read Bill's book but am still confused by the round robin bidding part. From what I understand, you have the people who come view your house write open bids down on a piece of paper. Then you put them in order by amount offered. The next part I'm unsure of. Whom do you call first for the RR bidding? Will it always be the same order? Please explain. Thanks, Rhonda ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. Get it on your BlackBerry or iPhone. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/8d255e22/attachment.html From armymom13 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 07:21:06 2009 From: armymom13 at yahoo.com (Sharon) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] MLS Message-ID: <231181.38827.qm@web57307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Can someone tell me the best site to use to list my house on MLS plus additional sites for a flat fee.? Thank you. p.s. Great Forum, very informative... thanks Sharon Love, Live and Laugh ? "The soldier, above all other people, prays for peace, for he must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war" ?Douglas MacArthur ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/5f91b3ca/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Tue Jul 14 09:16:49 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:16:49 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] round robin bidding Message-ID: Start from largest bid and work your way down.... over and over and over LOL. Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 2:53:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rhondawillis at live.com writes: I have read Bill's book but am still confused by the round robin bidding part. From what I understand, you have the people who come view your house write open bids down on a piece of paper. Then you put them in order by amount offered. The next part I'm unsure of. Whom do you call first for the RR bidding? Will it always be the same order? Please explain. Thanks, Rhonda ____________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. _Get it on your BlackBerry or iPhone._ (http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009) = _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323036x1201367247/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/68e945ff/attachment.html From sterbert at yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 11:07:29 2009 From: sterbert at yahoo.com (Steven Herbert) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] MLS Message-ID: <299478.37107.qm@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> depends on where you live. I am just doing that now after a failed 5-day sale attempt. Different agencies specialize in different states or communities. I paid a little more ($700 vs $400) for a well-established reputable company (some brag about their credentials on their websites--ratings, history, Better Business Bureau). --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Sharon wrote: > From: Sharon > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] MLS > To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 6:21 AM > Can someone tell me the best site > to use to list my house on MLS plus additional sites for a > flat fee.? Thank you. > p.s. Great Forum, very informative... thanks > > > Sharon > Love, Live and Laugh > ? > "The soldier, above all other people, > prays for peace, for he must suffer and bear the deepest > wounds and scars of war" > ?Douglas > MacArthur > > ? > > > ? > > ? > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > From Janetislight at aol.com Tue Jul 14 11:53:15 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:53:15 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] MLS Message-ID: Where are you that your sale failed? Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 10:08:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sterbert at yahoo.com writes: depends on where you live. I am just doing that now after a failed 5-day sale attempt. Different agencies specialize in different states or communities. I paid a little more ($700 vs $400) for a well-established reputable company (some brag about their credentials on their websites--ratings, history, Better Business Bureau). --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Sharon wrote: > From: Sharon > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] MLS > To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 6:21 AM > Can someone tell me the best site > to use to list my house on MLS plus additional sites for a > flat fee. Thank you. > p.s. Great Forum, very informative... thanks > > > Sharon > Love, Live and Laugh > > "The soldier, above all other people, > prays for peace, for he must suffer and bear the deepest > wounds and scars of war" > Douglas > MacArthur > > > > > > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323036x1201367247/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/84b5fcd1/attachment.html From sterbert at yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 12:18:06 2009 From: sterbert at yahoo.com (Steven Herbert) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] MLS Message-ID: <496803.19890.qm@web30207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Washington state (tacoma area) Steven --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Janetislight at aol.com wrote: > From: Janetislight at aol.com > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] MLS > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 10:53 AM > > > > > > > Where are you that your sale failed? > ? > Janet > ? > > In a message dated 7/14/2009 10:08:27 A.M. Central > Daylight Time, > sterbert at yahoo.com writes: > > > depends on where you live. > > I am just doing that now > after a failed 5-day sale attempt. Different agencies > specialize in different > states or communities. I paid a little more ($700 vs > $400) for a > well-established reputable company (some brag about their > credentials on their > websites--ratings, history, Better Business Bureau). > > > --- On Tue, > 7/14/09, Sharon wrote: > > > From: Sharon > > > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] MLS > > To: > "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" > <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > > Date: Tuesday, > July 14, 2009, 6:21 AM > > Can someone tell me the best site > > to > use to list my house on MLS plus additional sites for a > > flat > fee.? Thank you. > > p.s. Great Forum, very informative... > thanks > > > > > > Sharon > > Love, Live and Laugh > > > ? > > "The soldier, above all other people, > > prays for peace, > for he must suffer and bear the deepest > > wounds and scars of > war" > > ?Douglas > > MacArthur > > > > ? > > > > > > > ? > > > > ? > > > > > > >? ? ?? > > -----Inline Attachment > Follows----- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 5-DayForum mailing > list > > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > > > ? ? ? > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing > list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum An Excellent Credit Score is > 750. See > Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > From tlqness at yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 12:57:27 2009 From: tlqness at yahoo.com (Terri Quenzer) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out Message-ID: <41355.42010.qm@web53508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> We held our 5-Day Sale over the weekend (I posted a question on the Forum Saturday night about the low bidding). The house is an investment property that we rehabbed?in Carlsbad, CA, and for advertising, I posted it daily on both San Diego and Orange County Craigslist, ran Fri-Sun ads in the North County Times and the Orange County Register, plus my partner and I walked flyers door-to-door mostly within a 1/2 mile radius (as far as 1 mile in some places), and posted 25 hand-written signs at major intersections throughout Carlsbad (they seemed to last longer than pre-printed signs). We had lots of responses (over 120), great turnout at the inspection (~40 groups each day), and 18 bids. The bidding started at $299,500 - we were hoping for around $600K?knowing that there are 4 comps within a 1 mile radius currently pending from $589K - $755K. By the end of the day on Saturday, the top bid was only at $306,000. We went into Sunday confident that the market would sort it out on Sunday night and?were not too worried when we shut down the open house on Sunday at 5 pm with the bidding at $323,000. What ended up happening in the round-robin bidding was that the initial bidders that actually answered their phones and advanced the bids were only advancing in $1,000 - $2,000 increments, which made the round-robin excruciatingly slow. We started at 7 pm and by 11 pm with only 3 bidders left, the bids were only at $353,000. We needed to get at least high $500s to recoup our costs into the property. At that point after telling each of remaining bidders what our bottom line is, two out of the three dropped out, and the third was iffy and has since backed out. In the meantime, we still have the house. Our original plan for selling the house was to give it our best shot on our own before bringing in a realtor, then, if that doesn't get a quality offer within 30 days, to make it into a rental and hang on to it for 5-7 years while the market turns around. I'm satisfied that we gave it our best shot. Oceanside, which is adjacent to Carlsbad,?has a high rate of foreclosures (as does several other parts of San Diego County and near-by Riverside County). I think that had an impact on our 5-Day sale because with all the foreclosures on the market in the San Diego area, people go to auctions around here expecting to pay half price for a home, and are willing to pay slightly more than that for a home that's been upgraded. In that respect, it's probably unlike other areas that have not been so hard-hit by foreclosures, where buyers know the full market value of homes and recognize not only that it's highly unlikely that they will actually buy the home at half price, but are very happy with any discount that brings them somewhat below full market price. On the other hand, this is my second 5-Day experience - I practiced a couple of weeks ago doing a 5-Day rental on a family house that I just renovated to rent out, and it worked beautifully! Interestingly, for the 5-Day rental, most of the responses came from Craigslist, whereas for the 5-Day sale, few came from Craigslist and most came from the flyers and signs. Terri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/f29434bf/attachment.html From tlqness at yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 12:57:27 2009 From: tlqness at yahoo.com (Terri Quenzer) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out Message-ID: <41355.42010.qm@web53508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> We held our 5-Day Sale over the weekend (I posted a question on the Forum Saturday night about the low bidding). The house is an investment property that we rehabbed?in Carlsbad, CA, and for advertising, I posted it daily on both San Diego and Orange County Craigslist, ran Fri-Sun ads in the North County Times and the Orange County Register, plus my partner and I walked flyers door-to-door mostly within a 1/2 mile radius (as far as 1 mile in some places), and posted 25 hand-written signs at major intersections throughout Carlsbad (they seemed to last longer than pre-printed signs). We had lots of responses (over 120), great turnout at the inspection (~40 groups each day), and 18 bids. The bidding started at $299,500 - we were hoping for around $600K?knowing that there are 4 comps within a 1 mile radius currently pending from $589K - $755K. By the end of the day on Saturday, the top bid was only at $306,000. We went into Sunday confident that the market would sort it out on Sunday night and?were not too worried when we shut down the open house on Sunday at 5 pm with the bidding at $323,000. What ended up happening in the round-robin bidding was that the initial bidders that actually answered their phones and advanced the bids were only advancing in $1,000 - $2,000 increments, which made the round-robin excruciatingly slow. We started at 7 pm and by 11 pm with only 3 bidders left, the bids were only at $353,000. We needed to get at least high $500s to recoup our costs into the property. At that point after telling each of remaining bidders what our bottom line is, two out of the three dropped out, and the third was iffy and has since backed out. In the meantime, we still have the house. Our original plan for selling the house was to give it our best shot on our own before bringing in a realtor, then, if that doesn't get a quality offer within 30 days, to make it into a rental and hang on to it for 5-7 years while the market turns around. I'm satisfied that we gave it our best shot. Oceanside, which is adjacent to Carlsbad,?has a high rate of foreclosures (as does several other parts of San Diego County and near-by Riverside County). I think that had an impact on our 5-Day sale because with all the foreclosures on the market in the San Diego area, people go to auctions around here expecting to pay half price for a home, and are willing to pay slightly more than that for a home that's been upgraded. In that respect, it's probably unlike other areas that have not been so hard-hit by foreclosures, where buyers know the full market value of homes and recognize not only that it's highly unlikely that they will actually buy the home at half price, but are very happy with any discount that brings them somewhat below full market price. On the other hand, this is my second 5-Day experience - I practiced a couple of weeks ago doing a 5-Day rental on a family house that I just renovated to rent out, and it worked beautifully! Interestingly, for the 5-Day rental, most of the responses came from Craigslist, whereas for the 5-Day sale, few came from Craigslist and most came from the flyers and signs. Terri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/f29434bf/attachment-0001.html From Janetislight at aol.com Tue Jul 14 13:13:47 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:13:47 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out Message-ID: I'm becoming VERY convinced that the market has a lot to do with whether or not this type of sale works. I honestly don't think we are in that type of market. There is no frenzy of buyers.... lots of window shopping though, as in all industries. I have been in sales my entire career and real estate related activities for about 15 years. It is cyclical. Period. Five years from now I think you can cut out the middle man and still get the buyers knocking your door down. Right now people are of a mind-set that there are bargains to be had and to wait for them. The stories I hear from the real estate selling side are horrific. People walking away for very little amounts of money, and being very nasty to the sellers. It's like the old joke, "I tell my mother I'm a piano player in a whore house because it's better than being in real estate." Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 12:03:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tlqness at yahoo.com writes: We held our 5-Day Sale over the weekend (I posted a question on the Forum Saturday night about the low bidding). The house is an investment property that we rehabbed in Carlsbad, CA, and for advertising, I posted it daily on both San Diego and Orange County Craigslist, ran Fri-Sun ads in the North County Times and the Orange County Register, plus my partner and I walked flyers door-to-door mostly within a 1/2 mile radius (as far as 1 mile in some places), and posted 25 hand-written signs at major intersections throughout Carlsbad (they seemed to last longer than pre-printed signs). We had lots of responses (over 120), great turnout at the inspection (~40 groups each day), and 18 bids. The bidding started at $299,500 - we were hoping for around $600K knowing that there are 4 comps within a 1 mile radius currently pending from $589K - $755K. By the end of the day on Saturday, the top bid was only at $306,000. We went into Sunday confident that the market would sort it out on Sunday night and were not too worried when we shut down the open house on Sunday at 5 pm with the bidding at $323,000. What ended up happening in the round-robin bidding was that the initial bidders that actually answered their phones and advanced the bids were only advancing in $1,000 - $2,000 increments, which made the round-robin excruciatingly slow. We started at 7 pm and by 11 pm with only 3 bidders left, the bids were only at $353,000. We needed to get at least high $500s to recoup our costs into the property. At that point after telling each of remaining bidders what our bottom line is, two out of the three dropped out, and the third was iffy and has since backed out. In the meantime, we still have the house. Our original plan for selling the house was to give it our best shot on our own before bringing in a realtor, then, if that doesn't get a quality offer within 30 days, to make it into a rental and hang on to it for 5-7 years while the market turns around. I'm satisfied that we gave it our best shot. Oceanside, which is adjacent to Carlsbad, has a high rate of foreclosures (as does several other parts of San Diego County and near-by Riverside County). I think that had an impact on our 5-Day sale because with all the foreclosures on the market in the San Diego area, people go to auctions around here expecting to pay half price for a home, and are willing to pay slightly more than that for a home that's been upgraded. In that respect, it's probably unlike other areas that have not been so hard-hit by foreclosures, where buyers know the full market value of homes and recognize not only that it's highly unlikely that they will actually buy the home at half price, but are very happy with any discount that brings them somewhat below full market price. On the other hand, this is my second 5-Day experience - I practiced a couple of weeks ago doing a 5-Day rental on a family house that I just renovated to rent out, and it worked beautifully! Interestingly, for the 5-Day rental, most of the responses came from Craigslist, whereas for the 5-Day sale, few came from Craigslist and most came from the flyers and signs. Terri _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323036x1201367247/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID =62&bcd=JulyExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/3e7a3010/attachment.html From bill at effros.com Tue Jul 14 13:23:34 2009 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:23:34 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out In-Reply-To: <41355.42010.qm@web53508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <41355.42010.qm@web53508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A5CBF16.1000903@effros.com> Terri, Too bad. I once attended a 5-Day Sale similar to yours. Top bid before the round-round was $256,000. Owner hoping for $500,000. Top bid at 11:00 pm Sunday night--$306,000. Only 2 bidders left, with identical bidding strategies: "My wife wants this house, and whatever you bid I'm going to bid $500 more." These 2 guys kept at it for 4 days. It was just call after call after call. But they were bulldogs. Thursday night the house sold for $726,000 or some number like that. You had the 3 real buyers. You shot yourself in the foot by trying to short circuit the process. The whole point is letting the buyers decide what your home is worth, and letting them get to that number honestly. Once they are sure you don't have your thumb on the scale they will fight it out among themselves. You can't re-run this house now -- the real buyers won't play. See what happens with the broker. Bill Effros Author Terri Quenzer wrote: > We held our 5-Day Sale over the weekend (I posted a question on the > Forum Saturday night about the low bidding). The house is an > investment property that we rehabbed in Carlsbad, CA, and for > advertising, I posted it daily on both San Diego and Orange County > Craigslist, ran Fri-Sun ads in the North County Times and the Orange > County Register, plus my partner and I walked flyers door-to-door > mostly within a 1/2 mile radius (as far as 1 mile in some places), and > posted 25 hand-written signs at major intersections throughout > Carlsbad (they seemed to last longer than pre-printed signs). We had > lots of responses (over 120), great turnout at the inspection (~40 > groups each day), and 18 bids. The bidding started at $299,500 - we > were hoping for around $600K knowing that there are 4 comps within a 1 > mile radius currently pending from $589K - $755K. By the end of the > day on Saturday, the top bid was only at $306,000. We went into Sunday > confident that the market would sort it out on Sunday night and were > not too worried when we shut down the open house on Sunday at 5 pm > with the bidding at $323,000. > > What ended up happening in the round-robin bidding was that the > initial bidders that actually answered their phones and advanced the > bids were only advancing in $1,000 - $2,000 increments, which made the > round-robin excruciatingly slow. We started at 7 pm and by 11 pm with > only 3 bidders left, the bids were only at > $353,000. We needed to get at least high $500s to recoup our costs > into the property. At that point after telling each of remaining > bidders what our bottom line is, two out of the three dropped out, and > the third was iffy and has since backed out. > > In the meantime, we still have the house. Our original plan for > selling the house was to give it our best shot on our own before > bringing in a realtor, then, if that > doesn't get a quality offer within 30 days, to make it into a rental > and hang on to it for 5-7 years while the market turns around. I'm > satisfied that we gave it our best shot. > > Oceanside, which is adjacent to Carlsbad, has a high rate of > foreclosures (as does several other parts of San Diego County and > near-by Riverside County). I think that had an impact on our 5-Day > sale because with all the foreclosures on the market in the San Diego > area, people go to auctions around here expecting to pay half price > for a home, and are willing to pay slightly more than that for a home > that's been upgraded. In that respect, it's probably unlike other > areas that have not been so hard-hit by foreclosures, where buyers > know the full market value of homes and recognize not only that it's > highly unlikely that they will actually buy the home at half price, > but are very happy with any discount that brings them somewhat below > full market price. > > On the other hand, this is my second 5-Day experience - I practiced a > couple of weeks ago doing a 5-Day rental on a family house that I just > renovated to rent out, and it worked beautifully! Interestingly, for > the 5-Day rental, most of the responses came from Craigslist, whereas > for the 5-Day sale, few came from Craigslist and most came from the > flyers and signs. > > Terri > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/896a67fd/attachment.html From skyhighplanning at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 13:45:40 2009 From: skyhighplanning at gmail.com (SKY HIGH) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:45:40 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <651219F1-B676-4BB7-AFD5-07FC89E73E7F@gmail.com> I believe that , although the purpose of 5day sale is to get market value, in this depreciating market you should be prepared to sell under market value if you want to sell fast. The 5 day sale method will get you as close to market value as possible. Sometimes even over market value! But, since everyone who uses this method is not experienced you will not always get the same results. Sellers who apply this method effectively will get a buyer to pay full market value or higher. Sellers who try this method not so effectively will get under market value. If you want to sell fast you have to accept what you get or have someone handle the sale more effectively. Carlos A. Chica Investor/Real Estate Solutions Co. Sky High Planning, Inc. 7380 Sand Lake Rd. #500 Orlando, FL 32819 Office: (407) 352-3220 Fax: (407) 738-4816 Cell: (646) 552-0107 skyhighplanning at gmail.com Coming Soon: www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com "It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible" - Walt Disney On Jul 14, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Janetislight at aol.com wrote: > I'm becoming VERY convinced that the market has a lot to do with > whether or not this type of sale works. I honestly don't think we > are in that type of market. There is no frenzy of buyers.... lots > of window shopping though, as in all industries. I have been in > sales my entire career and real estate related activities for about > 15 years. It is cyclical. Period. Five years from now I think you > can cut out the middle man and still get the buyers knocking your > door down. Right now people are of a mind-set that there are > bargains to be had and to wait for them. The stories I hear from > the real estate selling side are horrific. People walking away for > very little amounts of money, and being very nasty to the sellers. > It's like the old joke, "I tell my mother I'm a piano player in a > whore house because it's better than being in real estate." > > Janet > > > In a message dated 7/14/2009 12:03:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tlqness at yahoo.com > writes: > We held our 5-Day Sale over the weekend (I posted a question on the > Forum Saturday night about the low bidding). The house is an > investment property that we rehabbed in Carlsbad, CA, and for > advertising, I posted it daily on both San Diego and Orange County > Craigslist, ran Fri-Sun ads in the North County Times and the Orange > County Register, plus my partner and I walked flyers door-to-door > mostly within a 1/2 mile radius (as far as 1 mile in some places), > and posted 25 hand-written signs at major intersections throughout > Carlsbad (they seemed to last longer than pre-printed signs). We had > lots of responses (over 120), great turnout at the inspection (~40 > groups each day), and 18 bids. The bidding started at $299,500 - we > were hoping for around $600K knowing that there are 4 comps within a > 1 mile radius currently pending from $589K - $755K. By the end of > the day on Saturday, the top bid was only at $306,000. We went into > Sunday confident that the market would sort it out on Sunday night > and were not too worried when we shut down the open house on Sunday > at 5 pm with the bidding at $323,000. > > What ended up happening in the round-robin bidding was that the > initial bidders that actually answered their phones and advanced the > bids were only advancing in $1,000 - $2,000 increments, which made > the round-robin excruciatingly slow. We started at 7 pm and by 11 pm > with only 3 bidders left, the bids were only at > $353,000. We needed to get at least high $500s to recoup our costs > into the property. At that point after telling each of remaining > bidders what our bottom line is, two out of the three dropped out, > and the third was iffy and has since backed out. > > In the meantime, we still have the house. Our original plan for > selling the house was to give it our best shot on our own before > bringing in a realtor, then, if that > doesn't get a quality offer within 30 days, to make it into a rental > and hang on to it for 5-7 years while the market turns around. I'm > satisfied that we gave it our best shot. > > Oceanside, which is adjacent to Carlsbad, has a high rate of > foreclosures (as does several other parts of San Diego County and > near-by Riverside County). I think that had an impact on our 5-Day > sale because with all the foreclosures on the market in the San > Diego area, people go to auctions around here expecting to pay half > price for a home, and are willing to pay slightly more than that for > a home that's been upgraded. In that respect, it's probably unlike > other areas that have not been so hard-hit by foreclosures, where > buyers know the full market value of homes and recognize not only > that it's highly unlikely that they will actually buy the home at > half price, but are very happy with any discount that brings them > somewhat below full market price. > > On the other hand, this is my second 5-Day experience - I practiced > a couple of weeks ago doing a 5-Day rental on a family house that I > just renovated to rent out, and it worked beautifully! > Interestingly, for the 5-Day rental, most of the responses came from > Craigslist, whereas for the 5-Day sale, few came from Craigslist and > most came from the flyers and signs. > > Terri > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > An Excellent Credit Score is 750. 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Only 2 bidders left, with identical bidding strategies: "My wife wants this house, and whatever you bid I'm going to bid $500 more." These 2 guys kept at it for 4 days. It was just call after call after call. But they were bulldogs. Thursday night the house sold for $726,000 or some number like that. You had the 3 real buyers. You shot yourself in the foot by trying to short circuit the process. The whole point is letting the buyers decide what your home is worth, and letting them get to that number honestly. Once they are sure you don't have your thumb on the scale they will fight it out among themselves. You can't re-run this house now -- the real buyers won't play. See what happens with the broker. Bill Effros Author Terri Quenzer wrote: We held our 5-Day Sale over the weekend (I posted a question on the Forum Saturday night about the low bidding). The house is an investment property that we rehabbed in Carlsbad, CA, and for advertising, I posted it daily on both San Diego and Orange County Craigslist, ran Fri-Sun ads in the North County Times and the Orange County Register, plus my partner and I walked flyers door-to-door mostly within a 1/2 mile radius (as far as 1 mile in some places), and posted 25 hand-written signs at major intersections throughout Carlsbad (they seemed to last longer than pre-printed signs). We had lots of responses (over 120), great turnout at the inspection (~40 groups each day), and 18 bids. The bidding started at $299,500 - we were hoping for around $600K knowing that there are 4 comps within a 1 mile radius currently pending from $589K - $755K. By the end of the day on Saturday, the top bid was only at $306,000. We went into Sunday confident that the market would sort it out on Sunday night and were not too worried when we shut down the open house on Sunday at 5 pm with the bidding at $323,000. What ended up happening in the round-robin bidding was that the initial bidders that actually answered their phones and advanced the bids were only advancing in $1,000 - $2,000 increments, which made the round-robin excruciatingly slow. We started at 7 pm and by 11 pm with only 3 bidders left, the bids were only at $353,000. We needed to get at least high $500s to recoup our costs into the property. At that point after telling each of remaining bidders what our bottom line is, two out of the three dropped out, and the third was iffy and has since backed out. In the meantime, we still have the house. Our original plan for selling the house was to give it our best shot on our own before bringing in a realtor, then, if that doesn't get a quality offer within 30 days, to make it into a rental and hang on to it for 5-7 years while the market turns around. I'm satisfied that we gave it our best shot. Oceanside, which is adjacent to Carlsbad, has a high rate of foreclosures (as does several other parts of San Diego County and near-by Riverside County). I think that had an impact on our 5-Day sale because with all the foreclosures on the market in the San Diego area, people go to auctions around here expecting to pay half price for a home, and are willing to pay slightly more than that for a home that's been upgraded. In that respect, it's probably unlike other areas that have not been so hard-hit by foreclosures, where buyers know the full market value of homes and recognize not only that it's highly unlikely that they will actually buy the home at half price, but are very happy with any discount that brings them somewhat below full market price. On the other hand, this is my second 5-Day experience - I practiced a couple of weeks ago doing a 5-Day rental on a family house that I just renovated to rent out, and it worked beautifully! Interestingly, for the 5-Day rental, most of the responses came from Craigslist, whereas for the 5-Day sale, few came from Craigslist and most came from the flyers and signs. Terri ____________________________________ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list _5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) _http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _ (http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323036x1201367247/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/48429ec2/attachment.html From patricialone at hotmail.com Tue Jul 14 14:44:05 2009 From: patricialone at hotmail.com (Patricia Lone) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:44:05 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No explanation to substantiate your disagreement? So far I'm sold that what Bill is saying is right on the mark. The bidders came into this believing it was an auction then once they take the bait the game is changed on them. I can see how that would not work and cause the result that came abut for Terri. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: Janetislight at aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:44 -0400 To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out I disagree. Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 12:25:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bill at effros.com writes: Terri, Too bad. I once attended a 5-Day Sale similar to yours. Top bid before the round-round was $256,000. Owner hoping for $500,000. Top bid at 11:00 pm Sunday night--$306,000. Only 2 bidders left, with identical bidding strategies: "My wife wants this house, and whatever you bid I'm going to bid $500 more." These 2 guys kept at it for 4 days. It was just call after call after call. But they were bulldogs. Thursday night the house sold for $726,000 or some number like that. You had the 3 real buyers. You shot yourself in the foot by trying to short circuit the process. The whole point is letting the buyers decide what your home is worth, and letting them get to that number honestly. Once they are sure you don't have your thumb on the scale they will fight it out among themselves. You can't re-run this house now -- the real buyers won't play. See what happens with the broker. Bill Effros Author Terri Quenzer wrote: We held our 5-Day Sale over the weekend (I posted a question on the Forum Saturday night about the low bidding). The house is an investment property that we rehabbed in Carlsbad, CA, and for advertising, I posted it daily on both San Diego and Orange County Craigslist, ran Fri-Sun ads in the North County Times and the Orange County Register, plus my partner and I walked flyers door-to-door mostly within a 1/2 mile radius (as far as 1 mile in some places), and posted 25 hand-written signs at major intersections throughout Carlsbad (they seemed to last longer than pre-printed signs). We had lots of responses (over 120), great turnout at the inspection (~40 groups each day), and 18 bids. The bidding started at $299,500 - we were hoping for around $600K knowing that there are 4 comps within a 1 mile radius currently pending from $589K - $755K. By the end of the day on Saturday, the top bid was only at $306,000. We went into Sunday confident that the market would sort it out on Sunday night and were not too worried when we shut down the open house on Sunday at 5 pm with the bidding at $323,000. What ended up happening in the round-robin bidding was that the initial bidders that actually answered their phones and advanced the bids were only advancing in $1,000 - $2,000 increments, which made the round-robin excruciatingly slow. We started at 7 pm and by 11 pm with only 3 bidders left, the bids were only at $353,000. We needed to get at least high $500s to recoup our costs into the property. At that point after telling each of remaining bidders what our bottom line is, two out of the three dropped out, and the third was iffy and has since backed out. In the meantime, we still have the house. Our original plan for selling the house was to give it our best shot on our own before bringing in a realtor, then, if that doesn't get a quality offer within 30 days, to make it into a rental and hang on to it for 5-7 years while the market turns around. I'm satisfied that we gave it our best shot. Oceanside, which is adjacent to Carlsbad, has a high rate of foreclosures (as does several other parts of San Diego County and near-by Riverside County). I think that had an impact on our 5-Day sale because with all the foreclosures on the market in the San Diego area, people go to auctions around here expecting to pay half price for a home, and are willing to pay slightly more than that for a home that's been upgraded. In that respect, it's probably unlike other areas that have not been so hard-hit by foreclosures, where buyers know the full market value of homes and recognize not only that it's highly unlikely that they will actually buy the home at half price, but are very happy with any discount that brings them somewhat below full market price. On the other hand, this is my second 5-Day experience - I practiced a couple of weeks ago doing a 5-Day rental on a family house that I just renovated to rent out, and it worked beautifully! Interestingly, for the 5-Day rental, most of the responses came from Craigslist, whereas for the 5-Day sale, few came from Craigslist and most came from the flyers and signs. Terri _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/7cfbb74a/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Tue Jul 14 14:48:51 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:48:51 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out Message-ID: When I told the bidders to get serious, the bidding started moving an average of 7,500 per bid. Guess it's all in the way you present it. Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 1:45:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, patricialone at hotmail.com writes: No explanation to substantiate your disagreement? So far I'm sold that what Bill is saying is right on the mark. The bidders came into this believing it was an auction then once they take the bait the game is changed on them. I can see how that would not work and cause the result that came abut for Terri. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: Janetislight at aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:44 -0400 To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out I disagree. Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 12:25:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bill at effros.com writes: Terri, Too bad. I once attended a 5-Day Sale similar to yours. Top bid before the round-round was $256,000. Owner hoping for $500,000. Top bid at 11:00 pm Sunday night--$306,000. Only 2 bidders left, with identical bidding strategies: "My wife wants this house, and whatever you bid I'm going to bid $500 more." These 2 guys kept at it for 4 days. It was just call after call after call. But they were bulldogs. Thursday night the house sold for $726,000 or some number like that. You had the 3 real buyers. You shot yourself in the foot by trying to short circuit the process. The whole point is letting the buyers decide what your home is worth, and letting them get to that number honestly. Once they are sure you don't have your thumb on the scale they will fight it out among themselves. You can't re-run this house now -- the real buyers won't play. See what happens with the broker. Bill Effros Author Terri Quenzer wrote: We held our 5-Day Sale over the weekend (I posted a question on the Forum Saturday night about the low bidding). The house is an investment property that we rehabbed in Carlsbad, CA, and for advertising, I posted it daily on both San Diego and Orange County Craigslist, ran Fri-Sun ads in the North County Times and the Orange County Register, plus my partner and I walked flyers door-to-door mostly within a 1/2 mile radius (as far as 1 mile in some places), and posted 25 hand-written signs at major intersections throughout Carlsbad (they seemed to last longer than pre-printed signs). We had lots of responses (over 120), great turnout at the inspection (~40 groups each day), and 18 bids. The bidding started at $299,500 - we were hoping for around $600K knowing that there are 4 comps within a 1 mile radius currently pending from $589K - $755K. By the end of the day on Saturday, the top bid was only at $306,000. We went into Sunday confident that the market would sort it out on Sunday night and were not too worried when we shut down the open house on Sunday at 5 pm with the bidding at $323,000. What ended up happening in the round-robin bidding was that the initial bidders that actually answered their phones and advanced the bids were only advancing in $1,000 - $2,000 increments, which made the round-robin excruciatingly slow. We started at 7 pm and by 11 pm with only 3 bidders left, the bids were only at $353,000. We needed to get at least high $500s to recoup our costs into the property. At that point after telling each of remaining bidders what our bottom line is, two out of the three dropped out, and the third was iffy and has since backed out. In the meantime, we still have the house. Our original plan for selling the house was to give it our best shot on our own before bringing in a realtor, then, if that doesn't get a quality offer within 30 days, to make it into a rental and hang on to it for 5-7 years while the market turns around. I'm satisfied that we gave it our best shot. Oceanside, which is adjacent to Carlsbad, has a high rate of foreclosures (as does several other parts of San Diego County and near-by Riverside County). I think that had an impact on our 5-Day sale because with all the foreclosures on the market in the San Diego area, people go to auctions around here expecting to pay half price for a home, and are willing to pay slightly more than that for a home that's been upgraded. In that respect, it's probably unlike other areas that have not been so hard-hit by foreclosures, where buyers know the full market value of homes and recognize not only that it's highly unlikely that they will actually buy the home at half price, but are very happy with any discount that brings them somewhat below full market price. On the other hand, this is my second 5-Day experience - I practiced a couple of weeks ago doing a 5-Day rental on a family house that I just renovated to rent out, and it worked beautifully! Interestingly, for the 5-Day rental, most of the responses came from Craigslist, whereas for the 5-Day sale, few came from Craigslist and most came from the flyers and signs. Terri ____________________________________ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ____________________________________ An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! = _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323036x1201367247/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/4b7058e1/attachment.html From djbartz at msn.com Tue Jul 14 16:32:23 2009 From: djbartz at msn.com (jason vincent) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:32:23 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] 2nd 5-day sale success in a month Message-ID: All, We just ran our second 5-day sale here in Colorado in a month. The first was my primary home in Colorado Springs which we conducted in late April and closed in early June (should be in the archive). The second was this past weekend for a 2nd home that was located in a rural area on a reservoir 60 miles north of Denver. Two very different properties and two successful outcomes. Instead of sharing the details of the recent sale as there really isn't anything new, as we followed the method again precisely as prescribed, I thought I would share what I now believe to be fact: 1. You WILL sell your home using this method, so you must be ready to do so on Sunday night. If not, don't use this method 2. You must accept reality, the market has spoken through your bidders, YOU need to adjust your thinking. Most people base market value on numbers that are meaningless and don't apply to FSBO deals that take just a few days. (There is value in never having to "show" your house again and not having to pay your mortgage for the 200 more days on average that it takes to sell a home with a traditional method!!) 3. You WILL get 25 calls by Friday night with very little expense (we spent $100 the first time and $400 the second). For pete sake people, if you don't get 25 calls from advertising a property at HALF its value, something is obviously wrong. Get a clue. 4. Stay CLEAN, your integrity and trust is your greatest asset in the process, don't give in to temptations, keep the process pure and the bidding process will work itself. Also, you don't need to change the method or put your own spin on it, why do you think you know more about this method than the guy who has been perfecting it for 20 years anyway??) 5. You WILL have 3 serious bidders but EVERYONE else plays an important role in the process, YES, even the bottom feeder, and the unbelieving realtor and the guy who knows he can't afford it, but still does an initial bid of .01. So DO NOT blow these people off, they ARE worth your time. 6. You WILL sell to the highest bidder and you CAN negotiate with the highest bidder. If you've followed truth #4 the highest bidder will be willing to work with you, if you cheated, I believe they would know and you'd be on your own. 7. And final truth: If you don't like people and talking with people and making new friends, DO NOT DO THIS, you will fail, get yourself a realtor. I am signing off the forum now, thanks to Bill for being a pioneer and his willingness to support this cause. Keep the Faith, Deb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/5cce4939/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Tue Jul 14 16:39:24 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:39:24 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] 2nd 5-day sale success in a month Message-ID: On point #2. Different people are motivated differently. I have NO mortgages on any of the properties I own. I pay for all renovations with cash, period. So, your value does not match my value. I also do not live in these homes. So, it's not as if I have to "prepare" the home. That was done during renovations. I do not believe these are valid reasons for everyone. I'm paying a utility bill on an empty house. I'm not reducing my sales price for that. Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 3:33:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, djbartz at msn.com writes: All, We just ran our second 5-day sale here in Colorado in a month. The first was my primary home in Colorado Springs which we conducted in late April and closed in early June (should be in the archive). The second was this past weekend for a 2nd home that was located in a rural area on a reservoir 60 miles north of Denver. Two very different properties and two successful outcomes. Instead of sharing the details of the recent sale as there really isn't anything new, as we followed the method again precisely as prescribed, I thought I would share what I now believe to be fact: 1. You WILL sell your home using this method, so you must be ready to do so on Sunday night. If not, don't use this method 2. You must accept reality, the market has spoken through your bidders, YOU need to adjust your thinking. Most people base market value on numbers that are meaningless and don't apply to FSBO deals that take just a few days. (There is value in never having to "show" your house again and not having to pay your mortgage for the 200 more days on average that it takes to sell a home with a traditional method!!) 3. You WILL get 25 calls by Friday night with very little expense (we spent $100 the first time and $400 the second). For pete sake people, if you don't get 25 calls from advertising a property at HALF its value, something is obviously wrong. Get a clue. 4. Stay CLEAN, your integrity and trust is your greatest asset in the process, don't give in to temptations, keep the process pure and the bidding process will work itself. Also, you don't need to change the method or put your own spin on it, why do you think you know more about this method than the guy who has been perfecting it for 20 years anyway??) 5. You WILL have 3 serious bidders but EVERYONE else plays an important role in the process, YES, even the bottom feeder, and the unbelieving realtor and the guy who knows he can't afford it, but still does an initial bid of .01. So DO NOT blow these people off, they ARE worth your time. 6. You WILL sell to the highest bidder and you CAN negotiate with the highest bidder. If you've followed truth #4 the highest bidder will be willing to work with you, if you cheated, I believe they would know and you'd be on your own. 7. And final truth: If you don't like people and talking with people and making new friends, DO NOT DO THIS, you will fail, get yourself a realtor. I am signing off the forum now, thanks to Bill for being a pioneer and his willingness to support this cause. Keep the Faith, Deb = _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy St eps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323036x1201367247/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/44ccc0f1/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Tue Jul 14 18:35:15 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:35:15 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out Message-ID: I thought about this, and I believe the difference is that I did not give them a "drop dead" price. I just encouraged them to bid what they thought it was worth. Then things moved along more quickly. I am not new to auctions or sales. And this method, unlike in regular auctions, the "reserve" price is much higher than what Bill's method uses. And everyone knows about it up front. This is a bidding war, not an auction. A true auction, you shout out numbers. You move it along. When I have bought real estate at an auction the amounts jump 10K and then 5K. They work too. ;) Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 1:52:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Janetislight at aol.com writes: When I told the bidders to get serious, the bidding started moving an average of 7,500 per bid. Guess it's all in the way you present it. Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 1:45:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, patricialone at hotmail.com writes: No explanation to substantiate your disagreement? So far I'm sold that what Bill is saying is right on the mark. The bidders came into this believing it was an auction then once they take the bait the game is changed on them. I can see how that would not work and cause the result that came abut for Terri. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: Janetislight at aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:44 -0400 To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out I disagree. Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 12:25:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bill at effros.com writes: Terri, Too bad. I once attended a 5-Day Sale similar to yours. Top bid before the round-round was $256,000. Owner hoping for $500,000. Top bid at 11:00 pm Sunday night--$306,000. Only 2 bidders left, with identical bidding strategies: "My wife wants this house, and whatever you bid I'm going to bid $500 more." These 2 guys kept at it for 4 days. It was just call after call after call. But they were bulldogs. Thursday night the house sold for $726,000 or some number like that. You had the 3 real buyers. You shot yourself in the foot by trying to short circuit the process. The whole point is letting the buyers decide what your home is worth, and letting them get to that number honestly. Once they are sure you don't have your thumb on the scale they will fight it out among themselves. You can't re-run this house now -- the real buyers won't play. See what happens with the broker. Bill Effros Author Terri Quenzer wrote: We held our 5-Day Sale over the weekend (I posted a question on the Forum Saturday night about the low bidding). The house is an investment property that we rehabbed in Carlsbad, CA, and for advertising, I posted it daily on both San Diego and Orange County Craigslist, ran Fri-Sun ads in the North County Times and the Orange County Register, plus my partner and I walked flyers door-to-door mostly within a 1/2 mile radius (as far as 1 mile in some places), and posted 25 hand-written signs at major intersections throughout Carlsbad (they seemed to last longer than pre-printed signs). We had lots of responses (over 120), great turnout at the inspection (~40 groups each day), and 18 bids. The bidding started at $299,500 - we were hoping for around $600K knowing that there are 4 comps within a 1 mile radius currently pending from $589K - $755K. By the end of the day on Saturday, the top bid was only at $306,000. We went into Sunday confident that the market would sort it out on Sunday night and were not too worried when we shut down the open house on Sunday at 5 pm with the bidding at $323,000. What ended up happening in the round-robin bidding was that the initial bidders that actually answered their phones and advanced the bids were only advancing in $1,000 - $2,000 increments, which made the round-robin excruciatingly slow. We started at 7 pm and by 11 pm with only 3 bidders left, the bids were only at $353,000. We needed to get at least high $500s to recoup our costs into the property. At that point after telling each of remaining bidders what our bottom line is, two out of the three dropped out, and the third was iffy and has since backed out. In the meantime, we still have the house. Our original plan for selling the house was to give it our best shot on our own before bringing in a realtor, then, if that doesn't get a quality offer within 30 days, to make it into a rental and hang on to it for 5-7 years while the market turns around. I'm satisfied that we gave it our best shot. Oceanside, which is adjacent to Carlsbad, has a high rate of foreclosures (as does several other parts of San Diego County and near-by Riverside County). I think that had an impact on our 5-Day sale because with all the foreclosures on the market in the San Diego area, people go to auctions around here expecting to pay half price for a home, and are willing to pay slightly more than that for a home that's been upgraded. In that respect, it's probably unlike other areas that have not been so hard-hit by foreclosures, where buyers know the full market value of homes and recognize not only that it's highly unlikely that they will actually buy the home at half price, but are very happy with any discount that brings them somewhat below full market price. On the other hand, this is my second 5-Day experience - I practiced a couple of weeks ago doing a 5-Day rental on a family house that I just renovated to rent out, and it worked beautifully! Interestingly, for the 5-Day rental, most of the responses came from Craigslist, whereas for the 5-Day sale, few came from Craigslist and most came from the flyers and signs. Terri ____________________________________ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ____________________________________ An Excellent Credit Score is 750. 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323036x1201367247/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/b11a2c4a/attachment.html From akmihos at verizon.net Wed Jul 15 13:26:50 2009 From: akmihos at verizon.net (akmihos at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:26:50 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... In-Reply-To: <00A54B81C2124886B92D02897C31E02E@jamesfleming> References: <005001c9f5c0$6edc0a10$6701a8c0@PC229962744102><002101c9f656$1f6bf940$5e43ebc0$@com><3266EEF7-375B-41B6-ACBF-1FF01BBC19C2@monkeysarcades.com><4A451276.4000903@effros.com><1272289883-1246106153-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2100986478-@bxe1029.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><00ba01c9f7a0$8b986c20$a2c94460$@com><2053664556-1246163018-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1660185054-@bxe1029.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><00A54B81C2124886B92D02897C31E02E@jamesfleming> Message-ID: <701597707-1247678859-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-792044388-@bxe1029.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Jim, thanks for the input on this. Can you put in the MLS section where the buyers will see that a you are holding a Round Robin bidding at a specific price or can this only be put in the realtor section? Regards, Ari. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "James Fleming" Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:58:55 To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Dear Ari, Here is a tip for you and for others who are considering listing your properties on your local MLS. There are some simple steps that you can follow to deal with the issue of list price without compromising the concept of the 5-Day sale. 1. Every MLS requires you to post a list price. Enter the price that you feel represents the market value of your house. 2. Every MLS also has a section in which you can write a message to the public and another where you can write a message to members of the MLS (Realtors). In these two sections, write a variation of the following, one that best fits your sale, "Round Robin this Sunday. House will be sold to the highest bidder. Bidding will start at $XX,XXX (one-half the list price). House will be open for inspection Wed through Sun from noon until 5pm. Contact Ari at 555-5555 for details." This way, if you have priced your house properly, any real buyer has the choice of either participating in the auction and taking his chances of being outbid, or, before the auction, making an offer equal to or greater than the listed price thus taking the house off the market before the 5-Day sale. In my experience...Limiting yourself to just the potential buyers who happen to see your promotion during the 5 days that it is briefly advertised is pretty risky. No matter where you advertise you are going to reach only a small cross section of active buyers who happen to catch your ads during the short 5-day window of opportunity. You will get better results if you promote your round robin for a minimum of two weeks. But if you are desperate to sell by a certain date, and will take whatever you are offered, it is a good way to make the best of a bad situation. Good luck, Jim James Fleming NAR Short Sale Manager, Principal Fleming Realty Group | Keller Williams Premier Partners Realty 915 Broadway, First Floor, Vancouver WA 98660 ' 360.771.3003 | 7 360.702.0777 * jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com www.ShortSaleBulldog.com -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of akmihos at verizon.net Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:23 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Susie, that is not what Bill had suggested to me about a couple of weeks ago. He said that Craig's List would be the first place to advertise and may be the only one for a 5-day sale. He said that maybe he would stick an add or two in a couple of the local newspapers or internet but that would probably not change ny chances or price that the house would sell for. This is why I am asking the question again to Bill based on the interview that he had with that company. What type of advertising vehicles did they use other than Craig's List? Remember, you cannot advertise your house on the MLS for half of what is worth because if that is the only price you can get out of it, you are obligating to sell. You do not have to do this with your own add on Craig's List or an internet newspaper add, etc... Am I wrong in thinking this? Thanks, Ari. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Susie" Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:28:43 To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Ari, Did you read what you wrote? What do you really believe? If you really want to sell your house you might want to advertise every way possible to get the most exposure..... Newspaper, web, Craig's list only reaches a few.... signs etc. If you were looking for a job would you only look on Craig's list? Susie -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of akmihos at verizon.net Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:35 AM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Bill, were you able to find out what type of advertising method they used to get the word out? Are they only using Craigslist? I am sure that they have built up an extensive list of prospective buyers over the years which they use everytime they do this which helps. Again my concern is not that your system does not work. I truly believe it does and it is the best and fastest way to sell a house at the highest price based on the market when you are selling the home. My only concern is getting the exposure though the proper advertising vehicle. Thanks Ari. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Bill Effros Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:24:54 To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4193 (20090626) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4193 (20090626) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 13:36:01 2009 From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com (James Fleming) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:36:01 -0700 Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... In-Reply-To: <701597707-1247678859-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-792044388-@bxe1029.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <005001c9f5c0$6edc0a10$6701a8c0@PC229962744102><002101c9f656$1f6bf940$5e43ebc0$@com><3266EEF7-375B-41B6-ACBF-1FF01BBC19C2@monkeysarcades.com><4A451276.4000903@effros.com><1272289883-1246106153-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2100986478-@bxe1029.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><00ba01c9f7a0$8b986c20$a2c94460$@com><2053664556-1246163018-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1660185054-@bxe1029.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><00A54B81C2124886B92D02897C31E02E@jamesfleming> <701597707-1247678859-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-792044388-@bxe1029.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Ari, You can put it in both sections. Jim James Fleming NAR Short Sale Manager, Principal Fleming Realty Group | Keller Williams Premier Partners Realty 915 Broadway, First Floor, Vancouver WA 98660 ' 360.771.3003 | 7 360.702.0777 * jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com www.ShortSaleBulldog.com -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of akmihos at verizon.net Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:27 AM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Jim, thanks for the input on this. Can you put in the MLS section where the buyers will see that a you are holding a Round Robin bidding at a specific price or can this only be put in the realtor section? Regards, Ari. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "James Fleming" Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:58:55 To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Dear Ari, Here is a tip for you and for others who are considering listing your properties on your local MLS. There are some simple steps that you can follow to deal with the issue of list price without compromising the concept of the 5-Day sale. 1. Every MLS requires you to post a list price. Enter the price that you feel represents the market value of your house. 2. Every MLS also has a section in which you can write a message to the public and another where you can write a message to members of the MLS (Realtors). In these two sections, write a variation of the following, one that best fits your sale, "Round Robin this Sunday. House will be sold to the highest bidder. Bidding will start at $XX,XXX (one-half the list price). House will be open for inspection Wed through Sun from noon until 5pm. Contact Ari at 555-5555 for details." This way, if you have priced your house properly, any real buyer has the choice of either participating in the auction and taking his chances of being outbid, or, before the auction, making an offer equal to or greater than the listed price thus taking the house off the market before the 5-Day sale. In my experience...Limiting yourself to just the potential buyers who happen to see your promotion during the 5 days that it is briefly advertised is pretty risky. No matter where you advertise you are going to reach only a small cross section of active buyers who happen to catch your ads during the short 5-day window of opportunity. You will get better results if you promote your round robin for a minimum of two weeks. But if you are desperate to sell by a certain date, and will take whatever you are offered, it is a good way to make the best of a bad situation. Good luck, Jim James Fleming NAR Short Sale Manager, Principal Fleming Realty Group | Keller Williams Premier Partners Realty 915 Broadway, First Floor, Vancouver WA 98660 ' 360.771.3003 | 7 360.702.0777 * jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com www.ShortSaleBulldog.com -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of akmihos at verizon.net Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:23 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Susie, that is not what Bill had suggested to me about a couple of weeks ago. He said that Craig's List would be the first place to advertise and may be the only one for a 5-day sale. He said that maybe he would stick an add or two in a couple of the local newspapers or internet but that would probably not change ny chances or price that the house would sell for. This is why I am asking the question again to Bill based on the interview that he had with that company. What type of advertising vehicles did they use other than Craig's List? Remember, you cannot advertise your house on the MLS for half of what is worth because if that is the only price you can get out of it, you are obligating to sell. You do not have to do this with your own add on Craig's List or an internet newspaper add, etc... Am I wrong in thinking this? Thanks, Ari. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Susie" Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:28:43 To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Ari, Did you read what you wrote? What do you really believe? If you really want to sell your house you might want to advertise every way possible to get the most exposure..... Newspaper, web, Craig's list only reaches a few.... signs etc. If you were looking for a job would you only look on Craig's list? Susie -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of akmihos at verizon.net Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:35 AM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Bill, were you able to find out what type of advertising method they used to get the word out? Are they only using Craigslist? I am sure that they have built up an extensive list of prospective buyers over the years which they use everytime they do this which helps. Again my concern is not that your system does not work. I truly believe it does and it is the best and fastest way to sell a house at the highest price based on the market when you are selling the home. My only concern is getting the exposure though the proper advertising vehicle. Thanks Ari. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Bill Effros Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:24:54 To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4193 (20090626) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4193 (20090626) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From Janetislight at aol.com Wed Jul 15 13:37:03 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:37:03 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Message-ID: This makes A LOT of sense. Janet In a message dated 7/15/2009 12:29:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, akmihos at verizon.net writes: Jim, thanks for the input on this. Can you put in the MLS section where the buyers will see that a you are holding a Round Robin bidding at a specific price or can this only be put in the realtor section? Regards, Ari. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "James Fleming" Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:58:55 To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Dear Ari, Here is a tip for you and for others who are considering listing your properties on your local MLS. There are some simple steps that you can follow to deal with the issue of list price without compromising the concept of the 5-Day sale. 1. Every MLS requires you to post a list price. Enter the price that you feel represents the market value of your house. 2. Every MLS also has a section in which you can write a message to the public and another where you can write a message to members of the MLS (Realtors). In these two sections, write a variation of the following, one that best fits your sale, "Round Robin this Sunday. House will be sold to the highest bidder. Bidding will start at $XX,XXX (one-half the list price). House will be open for inspection Wed through Sun from noon until 5pm. Contact Ari at 555-5555 for details." This way, if you have priced your house properly, any real buyer has the choice of either participating in the auction and taking his chances of being outbid, or, before the auction, making an offer equal to or greater than the listed price thus taking the house off the market before the 5-Day sale. In my experience...Limiting yourself to just the potential buyers who happen to see your promotion during the 5 days that it is briefly advertised is pretty risky. No matter where you advertise you are going to reach only a small cross section of active buyers who happen to catch your ads during the short 5-day window of opportunity. You will get better results if you promote your round robin for a minimum of two weeks. But if you are desperate to sell by a certain date, and will take whatever you are offered, it is a good way to make the best of a bad situation. Good luck, Jim James Fleming NAR Short Sale Manager, Principal Fleming Realty Group | Keller Williams Premier Partners Realty 915 Broadway, First Floor, Vancouver WA 98660 ' 360.771.3003 | 7 360.702.0777 * jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com www.ShortSaleBulldog.com -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of akmihos at verizon.net Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:23 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Susie, that is not what Bill had suggested to me about a couple of weeks ago. He said that Craig's List would be the first place to advertise and may be the only one for a 5-day sale. He said that maybe he would stick an add or two in a couple of the local newspapers or internet but that would probably not change ny chances or price that the house would sell for. This is why I am asking the question again to Bill based on the interview that he had with that company. What type of advertising vehicles did they use other than Craig's List? Remember, you cannot advertise your house on the MLS for half of what is worth because if that is the only price you can get out of it, you are obligating to sell. You do not have to do this with your own add on Craig's List or an internet newspaper add, etc... Am I wrong in thinking this? Thanks, Ari. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Susie" Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:28:43 To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Ari, Did you read what you wrote? What do you really believe? If you really want to sell your house you might want to advertise every way possible to get the most exposure..... Newspaper, web, Craig's list only reaches a few.... signs etc. If you were looking for a job would you only look on Craig's list? Susie -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+susies07=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of akmihos at verizon.net Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:35 AM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... Bill, were you able to find out what type of advertising method they used to get the word out? Are they only using Craigslist? I am sure that they have built up an extensive list of prospective buyers over the years which they use everytime they do this which helps. Again my concern is not that your system does not work. I truly believe it does and it is the best and fastest way to sell a house at the highest price based on the market when you are selling the home. My only concern is getting the exposure though the proper advertising vehicle. Thanks Ari. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Bill Effros Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:24:54 To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days<5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How it's going so far.... _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4193 (20090626) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4193 (20090626) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great laptop deals from Dell! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223081934x1201714279/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D819 39%2D1629%2D4) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090715/c730f15c/attachment.html From tlqness at yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 14:24:02 2009 From: tlqness at yahoo.com (Terri Quenzer) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out Message-ID: <192127.19390.qm@web53501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> That's a great story. You said that we shot ourselves in the foot by disclosing our bottom line, but in this case, I don't think that's true. It turned out that our top three buyers also had their bottom line, that being $375,000 - $400,000, which is how much they were qualified to buy. We could have continued the bidding into the next day, but it still would have ended up well short of our own bottom line. So in the end, we would have been in the same place we are now. I can see how we would have shot ourselves in the foot had the buyers been qualified and willing to bid higher through the natural bidding process, and I think the lesson for future 5-Day Sales is to let the process run its natural course. This has been an amazing learning experience and it's something that I will do again! Terri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090715/b8883037/attachment.html From tlqness at yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 14:24:02 2009 From: tlqness at yahoo.com (Terri Quenzer) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out Message-ID: <192127.19390.qm@web53501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> That's a great story. You said that we shot ourselves in the foot by disclosing our bottom line, but in this case, I don't think that's true. It turned out that our top three buyers also had their bottom line, that being $375,000 - $400,000, which is how much they were qualified to buy. We could have continued the bidding into the next day, but it still would have ended up well short of our own bottom line. So in the end, we would have been in the same place we are now. I can see how we would have shot ourselves in the foot had the buyers been qualified and willing to bid higher through the natural bidding process, and I think the lesson for future 5-Day Sales is to let the process run its natural course. This has been an amazing learning experience and it's something that I will do again! Terri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090715/b8883037/attachment-0001.html From Janetislight at aol.com Wed Jul 15 14:28:31 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:28:31 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out Message-ID: Right now the number of "qualified" buyers is such a smaller percentage of home buyers that the market has narrowed considerably. I think you did fine. You saved yourself a lot of angst. Janet Better luck next time! In a message dated 7/15/2009 1:25:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tlqness at yahoo.com writes: That's a great story. You said that we shot ourselves in the foot by disclosing our bottom line, but in this case, I don't think that's true. It turned out that our top three buyers also had their bottom line, that being $375,000 - $400,000, which is how much they were qualified to buy. We could have continued the bidding into the next day, but it still would have ended up well short of our own bottom line. So in the end, we would have been in the same place we are now. I can see how we would have shot ourselves in the foot had the buyers been qualified and willing to bid higher through the natural bidding process, and I think the lesson for future 5-Day Sales is to let the process run its natural course. This has been an amazing learning experience and it's something that I will do again! Terri _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great laptop deals from Dell! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223081934x1201714279/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D819 39%2D1629%2D4) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090715/f1dfee95/attachment.html From bill at effros.com Wed Jul 15 14:30:07 2009 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:30:07 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5E202F.5000306@effros.com> Janet, There are many kinds of auctions other than "outcry" auctions. In most states "outcry auctions" must be run by professional licensed auctioneers. In some states it is not legal to run multiple auctions of any type in a single year without first obtaining an auctioneer's license. Unstated reserves are also illegal in many states. In most "outcry auctions" you are effectively bidding against the auctioneer, not the other people in the room. Round Robins are not "bidding wars". They are effective to the extent the bidders believe they are bidding against each other, and not against you. If you state in your rules that bids must be $500 apart, you have no business changing your rule in the middle of bidding. You will always lose bids if you do this. Always. What's the rush? If you follow this technique to the letter you will sell your home in 5 days, and both you and the buyer will believe a fair deal was struck. So it takes an hour longer to get the highest price. Is your time so valuable that you will give away thousands of dollars because you want to "move them along more quickly"? In a previous lifetime I ran an auction house. "Regular" auctions are not pretty when seen from behind the scenes, and I would never, ever buy anything at a "regular" auction unless I were part of the "syndicate" that actually determines the prices paid by the "marks" in the audience. The beauty of a properly run 5-Day Sale is that neither side is able to take advantage of the other, so a fair deal is mutually agreed. No single buyer is separated from the pack, or induced to bid far more than the property is currently worth. If the high bidder is unable to close the deal, for any reason, there is another, at virtually the same price, ready willing and able to buy the house. You buy real estate at "regular" auctions because you believe the method allows you to buy property for less than it is worth at the current time. Then you turn around and try to sell the property for more by using a different method. It takes a lot of "nerve" to be a real auctioneer. You've got to be very fast on your feet, willing to take risks, able to calculate quickly, and it helps if you've got a long dishonesty streak. Most of the people on this Forum don't fit that description, and it does them a disservice to suggest that changing the rules in the middle of the game will benefit the average first-time 5-Day Home Seller. Bill Effros Author Janetislight at aol.com wrote: > I thought about this, and I believe the difference is that I did not > give them a "drop dead" price. I just encouraged them to bid what > they thought it was worth. Then things moved along more quickly. I > am not new to auctions or sales. And this method, unlike in regular > auctions, the "reserve" price is much higher than what Bill's method > uses. And everyone knows about it up front. This is a bidding war, > not an auction. A true auction, you shout out numbers. You move it > along. When I have bought real estate at an auction the amounts jump > 10K and then 5K. They work too. ;) > > Janet > > In a message dated 7/14/2009 1:52:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > Janetislight at aol.com writes: > > When I told the bidders to get serious, the bidding started moving > an average of 7,500 per bid. Guess it's all in the way you > present it. > > Janet > > > In a message dated 7/14/2009 1:45:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > patricialone at hotmail.com writes: > > *No explanation to substantiate your disagreement? So far I'm > sold that what Bill is saying is right on the mark. The > bidders came into this believing it was an auction then once > they take the bait the game is changed on them. I can see how > that would not work and cause the result that came abut for Terri. > > Patricia > (please, "not Pat") > * > *"Aspire to inspire before you expire!" > Seasons > (Powerpoint) > > ** * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: Janetislight at aol.com > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:44 -0400 > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out > > > I disagree. > > Janet > > In a message dated 7/14/2009 12:25:37 P.M. Central Daylight > Time, bill at effros.com writes: > > Terri, > > Too bad. > > I once attended a 5-Day Sale similar to yours. Top bid > before the round-round was $256,000. Owner hoping for > $500,000. Top bid at 11:00 pm Sunday night--$306,000. > Only 2 bidders left, with identical bidding strategies: > "My wife wants this house, and whatever you bid I'm going > to bid $500 more." > > These 2 guys kept at it for 4 days. It was just call > after call after call. But they were bulldogs. Thursday > night the house sold for $726,000 or some number like that. > > You had the 3 real buyers. You shot yourself in the foot > by trying to short circuit the process. The whole point > is letting the buyers decide what your home is worth, and > letting them get to that number honestly. Once they are > sure you don't have your thumb on the scale they will > fight it out among themselves. > > You can't re-run this house now -- the real buyers won't > play. See what happens with the broker. > > Bill Effros > Author > > Terri Quenzer wrote: > > We held our 5-Day Sale over the weekend (I posted a > question on the Forum Saturday night about the low > bidding). The house is an investment property that we > rehabbed in Carlsbad, CA, and for advertising, I > posted it daily on both San Diego and Orange County > Craigslist, ran Fri-Sun ads in the North County Times > and the Orange County Register, plus my partner and I > walked flyers door-to-door mostly within a 1/2 mile > radius (as far as 1 mile in some places), and posted > 25 hand-written signs at major intersections > throughout Carlsbad (they seemed to last longer than > pre-printed signs). We had lots of responses (over > 120), great turnout at the inspection (~40 groups each > day), and 18 bids. The bidding started at $299,500 - > we were hoping for around $600K knowing that there are > 4 comps within a 1 mile radius currently pending from > $589K - $755K. By the end of the day on Saturday, the > top bid was only at $306,000. We went into Sunday > confident that the market would sort it out on Sunday > night and were not too worried when we shut down the > open house on Sunday at 5 pm with the bidding at $323,000. > > What ended up happening in the round-robin bidding was > that the initial bidders that actually answered their > phones and advanced the bids were only advancing in > $1,000 - $2,000 increments, which made the round-robin > excruciatingly slow. We started at 7 pm and by 11 pm > with only 3 bidders left, the bids were only at > $353,000. We needed to get at least high $500s to > recoup our costs into the property. At that point > after telling each of remaining bidders what our > bottom line is, two out of the three dropped out, and > the third was iffy and has since backed out. > > In the meantime, we still have the house. Our original > plan for selling the house was to give it our best > shot on our own before bringing in a realtor, then, if > that > doesn't get a quality offer within 30 days, to make it > into a rental and hang on to it for 5-7 years while > the market turns around. I'm satisfied that we gave it > our best shot. > > Oceanside, which is adjacent to Carlsbad, has a high > rate of foreclosures (as does several other parts of > San Diego County and near-by Riverside County). I > think that had an impact on our 5-Day sale because > with all the foreclosures on the market in the San > Diego area, people go to auctions around here > expecting to pay half price for a home, and are > willing to pay slightly more than that for a home > that's been upgraded. In that respect, it's probably > unlike other areas that have not been so hard-hit by > foreclosures, where buyers know the full market value > of homes and recognize not only that it's highly > unlikely that they will actually buy the home at half > price, but are very happy with any discount that > brings them somewhat below full market price. > > On the other hand, this is my second 5-Day experience > - I practiced a couple of weeks ago doing a 5-Day > rental on a family house that I just renovated to rent > out, and it worked beautifully! Interestingly, for the > 5-Day rental, most of the responses came from > Craigslist, whereas for the 5-Day sale, few came from > Craigslist and most came from the flyers and signs. > > Terri > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *An Excellent Credit Score is 750. 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See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090715/2cd67d12/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Wed Jul 15 14:41:54 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:41:54 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out Message-ID: Yes, reserves are stated, which is implied until you tell the prospects differently that your reserve price is not the price on the sign/ad. In this state, you have to have written all over the place that the house will not sell for that price, check with any Iowa attorney you know. Be my guest. I only checked with two and felt it sufficient. I also did not say change the rules. I said I just asked them what they thought the house was worth to them. I did not say to rush the process. I got very positive responses to this approach and I'm sure it was in the presentation which you are obviously missing here in the written format. Round Robin vs. bidding wars.... all in the perception. Sorry you took it in a way in which I didn't mean. And where you got the idea I called anyone on here and auctioneer completely stymies me. Janet In a message dated 7/15/2009 1:31:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bill at effros.com writes: Janet, There are many kinds of auctions other than "outcry" auctions. In most states "outcry auctions" must be run by professional licensed auctioneers. In some states it is not legal to run multiple auctions of any type in a single year without first obtaining an auctioneer's license. Unstated reserves are also illegal in many states. In most "outcry auctions" you are effectively bidding against the auctioneer, not the other people in the room. Round Robins are not "bidding wars". They are effective to the extent the bidders believe they are bidding against each other, and not against you. If you state in your rules that bids must be $500 apart, you have no business changing your rule in the middle of bidding. You will always lose bids if you do this. Always. What's the rush? If you follow this technique to the letter you will sell your home in 5 days, and both you and the buyer will believe a fair deal was struck. So it takes an hour longer to get the highest price. Is your time so valuable that you will give away thousands of dollars because you want to "move them along more quickly"? In a previous lifetime I ran an auction house. "Regular" auctions are not pretty when seen from behind the scenes, and I would never, ever buy anything at a "regular" auction unless I were part of the "syndicate" that actually determines the prices paid by the "marks" in the audience. The beauty of a properly run 5-Day Sale is that neither side is able to take advantage of the other, so a fair deal is mutually agreed. No single buyer is separated from the pack, or induced to bid far more than the property is currently worth. If the high bidder is unable to close the deal, for any reason, there is another, at virtually the same price, ready willing and able to buy the house. You buy real estate at "regular" auctions because you believe the method allows you to buy property for less than it is worth at the current time. Then you turn around and try to sell the property for more by using a different method. It takes a lot of "nerve" to be a real auctioneer. You've got to be very fast on your feet, willing to take risks, able to calculate quickly, and it helps if you've got a long dishonesty streak. Most of the people on this Forum don't fit that description, and it does them a disservice to suggest that changing the rules in the middle of the game will benefit the average first-time 5-Day Home Seller. Bill Effros Author _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) wrote: I thought about this, and I believe the difference is that I did not give them a "drop dead" price. I just encouraged them to bid what they thought it was worth. Then things moved along more quickly. I am not new to auctions or sales. And this method, unlike in regular auctions, the "reserve" price is much higher than what Bill's method uses. And everyone knows about it up front. This is a bidding war, not an auction. A true auction, you shout out numbers. You move it along. When I have bought real estate at an auction the amounts jump 10K and then 5K. They work too. ;) Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 1:52:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) writes: When I told the bidders to get serious, the bidding started moving an average of 7,500 per bid. Guess it's all in the way you present it. Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 1:45:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _patricialone at hotmail.com_ (mailto:patricialone at hotmail.com) writes: No explanation to substantiate your disagreement? So far I'm sold that what Bill is saying is right on the mark. The bidders came into this believing it was an auction then once they take the bait the game is changed on them. I can see how that would not work and cause the result that came abut for Terri. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:44 -0400 To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out I disagree. Janet In a message dated 7/14/2009 12:25:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _bill at effros.com_ (mailto:bill at effros.com) writes: Terri, Too bad. I once attended a 5-Day Sale similar to yours. Top bid before the round-round was $256,000. Owner hoping for $500,000. Top bid at 11:00 pm Sunday night--$306,000. Only 2 bidders left, with identical bidding strategies: "My wife wants this house, and whatever you bid I'm going to bid $500 more." These 2 guys kept at it for 4 days. It was just call after call after call. But they were bulldogs. Thursday night the house sold for $726,000 or some number like that. You had the 3 real buyers. You shot yourself in the foot by trying to short circuit the process. The whole point is letting the buyers decide what your home is worth, and letting them get to that number honestly. Once they are sure you don't have your thumb on the scale they will fight it out among themselves. You can't re-run this house now -- the real buyers won't play. See what happens with the broker. Bill Effros Author Terri Quenzer wrote: We held our 5-Day Sale over the weekend (I posted a question on the Forum Saturday night about the low bidding). The house is an investment property that we rehabbed in Carlsbad, CA, and for advertising, I posted it daily on both San Diego and Orange County Craigslist, ran Fri-Sun ads in the North County Times and the Orange County Register, plus my partner and I walked flyers door-to-door mostly within a 1/2 mile radius (as far as 1 mile in some places), and posted 25 hand-written signs at major intersections throughout Carlsbad (they seemed to last longer than pre-printed signs). We had lots of responses (over 120), great turnout at the inspection (~40 groups each day), and 18 bids. The bidding started at $299,500 - we were hoping for around $600K knowing that there are 4 comps within a 1 mile radius currently pending from $589K - $755K. By the end of the day on Saturday, the top bid was only at $306,000. We went into Sunday confident that the market would sort it out on Sunday night and were not too worried when we shut down the open house on Sunday at 5 pm with the bidding at $323,000. What ended up happening in the round-robin bidding was that the initial bidders that actually answered their phones and advanced the bids were only advancing in $1,000 - $2,000 increments, which made the round-robin excruciatingly slow. We started at 7 pm and by 11 pm with only 3 bidders left, the bids were only at $353,000. We needed to get at least high $500s to recoup our costs into the property. At that point after telling each of remaining bidders what our bottom line is, two out of the three dropped out, and the third was iffy and has since backed out. In the meantime, we still have the house. Our original plan for selling the house was to give it our best shot on our own before bringing in a realtor, then, if that doesn't get a quality offer within 30 days, to make it into a rental and hang on to it for 5-7 years while the market turns around. I'm satisfied that we gave it our best shot. Oceanside, which is adjacent to Carlsbad, has a high rate of foreclosures (as does several other parts of San Diego County and near-by Riverside County). I think that had an impact on our 5-Day sale because with all the foreclosures on the market in the San Diego area, people go to auctions around here expecting to pay half price for a home, and are willing to pay slightly more than that for a home that's been upgraded. In that respect, it's probably unlike other areas that have not been so hard-hit by foreclosures, where buyers know the full market value of homes and recognize not only that it's highly unlikely that they will actually buy the home at half price, but are very happy with any discount that brings them somewhat below full market price. On the other hand, this is my second 5-Day experience - I practiced a couple of weeks ago doing a 5-Day rental on a family house that I just renovated to rent out, and it worked beautifully! 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We now live in Midland, TX, about 9 hours away (in the desert where it is really dry). We kept the house because McAllen was one of the fastest growing housing markets in the country and was expected to grow in value about 25% within the next 5 years. Well, we all know what has happened to the housing market recently. Renting the house has been a disaster. We've lost more money than we can count trying to repair everything our last renters destroyed ($3,000 on the pool alone because, despite the fact that we were paying for pool maintenance, what we didn't know was that the renters wouldn't let the pool company access the pool... of course the pool company didn't bother to tell us that. They just kept billing us and we kept paying the bill. By the time we finally found out what was going on, the pool had become a putting green). Anyhow, my latest renters are moving out on August 1 and I need to sell the house ASAP. We bought another house in Midland 2 years ago and cannot afford to pay both mortgages for more than a couple of months. I have ordered all new carpet and granite countertops to be installed as soon as the renters move out. I am going to McAllen to do some painting and whatever else I may discover that needs to be fixed. I'm really nervous about all of this, but feel much more positive than I did about hiring a realtor and hoping for the best. A few of the questions I have are: 1.) I read in the book to have different info sheets in different colors throughout the house...but I don't know what is supposed to be on those sheets. The only thing I have seen examples of is the one major info sheet with all the dimensions and stuff on it. 2.) I have heard that vacant houses are harder to sell than houses that are lived in or "staged". Is that true? I wanted to stage the house, but with all the other expenses, I don't think I am going to have any money left to do it. 3.) The timing is concerning to me as well. Being that my open house will have to be the weekend before schools starts, I'm afraid that the prospective buyers will be distracted. I wanted to get it sold sooner, but the renters couldn't get out in time. Do you think that will be a negative factor? 4.) Do I need a settlement agent? I have searched in the area and cannot find one, though I'm not really sure exactly what I am looking for. I've only searched online. If the buyers are financing the house, which I assume they will, they will have a settlement agent. Is that sufficient? 5.) I read where someone was offering a $500 bonus if the buyers successfully close the sale within 2 weeks. Is that common practice? I would be happy to do it if it would help. Another concern that I have, nothing that you can probably help me with, is the fact that McAllen is a primarily Spanish speaking city and I do not speak Spanish. I don't really know anyone in the area and am afraid I will not be able to communicate with the prospective buyers. I can use Word to translate all the info sheets, but that doesn't help me in the Round-Robin process. I may have to try to hire a neighbor or something to help me with that... Sorry for rambling on so long... I guess I am just feeling overwhelmed and wanted to share my story to see if anyone has any advice for me. I am open to anything that will help. My plan is to advertise in the local paper and on Craigslist. I have looked at Craigslist in the McAllen area and it seems to be pretty active. Apparently quite a few people use it. I will also make some signs to put out on the street. It is more difficult because I live so far away and won't have much time in the area. I am taking a week off work to go down there and will have to drive back first thing Monday morning after the open house. Thanks for any advice!!! 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/eab09067/attachment.html From vchirco at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 14:54:21 2009 From: vchirco at gmail.com (Vito Chirco) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:54:21 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] confirm 0cd4f5c9a052d0fe7e8abea961532acfb6690043 Message-ID: <73c07210907141154x15d22886n44ef09cc60be2315@mail.gmail.com> confirm 0cd4f5c9a052d0fe7e8abea961532acfb6690043 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090714/11b7f262/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Wed Jul 15 17:44:47 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:44:47 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] New to this... Message-ID: There is a section with all the info to put on the individual sheets you will be making up. Additionally, the web site has word documents for you to modify with your info. I really wish you much luck with this. I think it's a good idea to have them in Spanish and English, as well as to have someone translate for you. You shouldn't be the only one there in any event, because you will need help. I flip houses for a living and have not found staging a necessity. Everything is renovated though, so I want them to see every detail, new floor vents, etc. I am so sorry all of this has happened to you, but I don't think it's an accident that the book found it's way to you. There are a lot of people on here with great advice, and the author involves himself as well, so you won't be alone. Ask all the questions you would like and there will be several very knowledgeable people with great advice. Start with the checklist in the book. That should give you a good starting point in getting organized. Keep the faith!!! Janet In a message dated 7/15/2009 2:37:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rpreston at cnbtx.com writes: Hello everyone? I am new to this concept, just discovered the book by accident while shopping at Barnes & Noble and found it interesting. My husband and I bought our dream home about 4 years ago in McAllen, TX? We were new to the area and within a year my then 6 year old daughter had had 5 sinus surgeries. She has Cystic Fibrosis and apparently the humidity in the area was just too much for her. So we had to move again. We now live in Midland, TX, about 9 hours away (in the desert where it is really dry). We kept the house because McAllen was one of the fastest growing housing markets in the country and was expected to grow in value about 25% within the next 5 years. Well, we all know what has happened to the housing market recently. Renting the house has been a disaster. We?ve lost more money than we can count trying to repair everything our last renters destroyed ($3,000 on the pool alone because, despite the fact that we were paying for pool maintenance, what we didn?t know was that the renters wouldn?t let the pool company access the pool? of course the pool company didn?t bother to tell us that. They just kept billing us and we kept paying the bill. By the time we finally found out what was going on, the pool had become a putting green). Anyhow, my latest renters are moving out on August 1 and I need to sell the house ASAP. We bought another house in Midland 2 years ago and cannot afford to pay both mortgages for more than a couple of months. I have ordered all new carpet and granite countertops to be installed as soon as the renters move out. I am going to McAllen to do some painting and whatever else I may discover that needs to be fixed. I?m really nervous about all of this, but feel much more positive than I did about hiring a realtor and hoping for the best. A few of the questions I have are: 1.) I read in the book to have different info sheets in different colors throughout the house?but I don?t know what is supposed to be on those sheets. The only thing I have seen examples of is the one major info sheet with all the dimensions and stuff on it. 2.) I have heard that vacant houses are harder to sell than houses that are lived in or ?staged?. Is that true? I wanted to stage the house, but with all the other expenses, I don?t think I am going to have any money left to do it. 3.) The timing is concerning to me as well. Being that my open house will have to be the weekend before schools starts, I?m afraid that the prospective buyers will be distracted. I wanted to get it sold sooner, but the renters couldn?t get out in time. Do you think that will be a negative factor? 4.) Do I need a settlement agent? I have searched in the area and cannot find one, though I?m not really sure exactly what I am looking for. I? ve only searched online. If the buyers are financing the house, which I assume they will, they will have a settlement agent. Is that sufficient? 5.) I read where someone was offering a $500 bonus if the buyers successfully close the sale within 2 weeks. Is that common practice? I would be happy to do it if it would help. Another concern that I have, nothing that you can probably help me with, is the fact that McAllen is a primarily Spanish speaking city and I do not speak Spanish. I don?t really know anyone in the area and am afraid I will not be able to communicate with the prospective buyers. I can use Word to translate all the info sheets, but that doesn?t help me in the Round-Robin process. I may have to try to hire a neighbor or something to help me with that? Sorry for rambling on so long? I guess I am just feeling overwhelmed and wanted to share my story to see if anyone has any advice for me. I am open to anything that will help. My plan is to advertise in the local paper and on Craigslist. I have looked at Craigslist in the McAllen area and it seems to be pretty active. Apparently quite a few people use it. I will also make some signs to put out on the street. It is more difficult because I live so far away and won?t have much time in the area. I am taking a week off work to go down there and will have to drive back first thing Monday morning after the open house. Thanks for any advice!!! Renee Preston Credit Analyst CNB Energy Team ********** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE*************** This message contains information that may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee or authorized to receive for the addressee, you may not use, copy or disclose the message or any information contained in the message to anyone. 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Central Daylight Time, vchirco at gmail.com writes: confirm 0cd4f5c9a052d0fe7e8abea961532acfb6690043 _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great laptop deals from Dell! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223081934x1201714279/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D819 39%2D1629%2D4) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090715/d1f93e60/attachment.html From tara at dastrup.com Thu Jul 16 15:36:07 2009 From: tara at dastrup.com (Tara Dastrup) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:36:07 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] New to this... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BAF@phoo.dastrup.com> If you read the last 1/2 of the book again, a lot of your questions will be answered. It's a lot the first time through (like what goes on the other papers that are different colors). A settlement agent is simply a real estate lawyer. Just call and find one that can do his part quickly. Tell him/her what you're doing and if that'll work with them. You need your own agent. That timing might be a factor. Bill says avoid holidays, super bowl, etc. Starting school is kind of major i think. good luck -tara ________________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Renee Preston [rpreston at CNBTX.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:35 AM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] New to this... Hello everyone? I am new to this concept, just discovered the book by accident while shopping at Barnes & Noble and found it interesting. My husband and I bought our dream home about 4 years ago in McAllen, TX? We were new to the area and within a year my then 6 year old daughter had had 5 sinus surgeries. She has Cystic Fibrosis and apparently the humidity in the area was just too much for her. So we had to move again. We now live in Midland, TX, about 9 hours away (in the desert where it is really dry). We kept the house because McAllen was one of the fastest growing housing markets in the country and was expected to grow in value about 25% within the next 5 years. Well, we all know what has happened to the housing market recently. Renting the house has been a disaster. We?ve lost more money than we can count trying to repair everything our last renters destroyed ($3,000 on the pool alone because, despite the fact that we were paying for pool maintenance, what we didn?t know was that the renters wouldn?t let the pool company access the pool? of course the pool company didn?t bother to tell us that. They just kept billing us and we kept paying the bill. By the time we finally found out what was going on, the pool had become a putting green). Anyhow, my latest renters are moving out on August 1 and I need to sell the house ASAP. We bought another house in Midland 2 years ago and cannot afford to pay both mortgages for more than a couple of months. I have ordered all new carpet and granite countertops to be installed as soon as the renters move out. I am going to McAllen to do some painting and whatever else I may discover that needs to be fixed. I?m really nervous about all of this, but feel much more positive than I did about hiring a realtor and hoping for the best. A few of the questions I have are: 1.) I read in the book to have different info sheets in different colors throughout the house?but I don?t know what is supposed to be on those sheets. The only thing I have seen examples of is the one major info sheet with all the dimensions and stuff on it. 2.) I have heard that vacant houses are harder to sell than houses that are lived in or ?staged?. Is that true? I wanted to stage the house, but with all the other expenses, I don?t think I am going to have any money left to do it. 3.) The timing is concerning to me as well. Being that my open house will have to be the weekend before schools starts, I?m afraid that the prospective buyers will be distracted. I wanted to get it sold sooner, but the renters couldn?t get out in time. Do you think that will be a negative factor? 4.) Do I need a settlement agent? I have searched in the area and cannot find one, though I?m not really sure exactly what I am looking for. I?ve only searched online. If the buyers are financing the house, which I assume they will, they will have a settlement agent. Is that sufficient? 5.) I read where someone was offering a $500 bonus if the buyers successfully close the sale within 2 weeks. Is that common practice? I would be happy to do it if it would help. Another concern that I have, nothing that you can probably help me with, is the fact that McAllen is a primarily Spanish speaking city and I do not speak Spanish. I don?t really know anyone in the area and am afraid I will not be able to communicate with the prospective buyers. I can use Word to translate all the info sheets, but that doesn?t help me in the Round-Robin process. I may have to try to hire a neighbor or something to help me with that? Sorry for rambling on so long? I guess I am just feeling overwhelmed and wanted to share my story to see if anyone has any advice for me. I am open to anything that will help. My plan is to advertise in the local paper and on Craigslist. I have looked at Craigslist in the McAllen area and it seems to be pretty active. Apparently quite a few people use it. I will also make some signs to put out on the street. It is more difficult because I live so far away and won?t have much time in the area. I am taking a week off work to go down there and will have to drive back first thing Monday morning after the open house. Thanks for any advice!!! Renee Preston Credit Analyst CNB Energy Team ********** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE*************** This message contains information that may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee or authorized to receive for the addressee, you may not use, copy or disclose the message or any information contained in the message to anyone. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply and delete the message. From Pearlkeeper at live.com Fri Jul 17 20:27:50 2009 From: Pearlkeeper at live.com (Billie Hall) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:27:50 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] charleston, WV Message-ID: I'm looking for the best places to post adds in Charleston, WV. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090717/3cea008f/attachment.html From Pearlkeeper at live.com Fri Jul 17 20:27:50 2009 From: Pearlkeeper at live.com (Billie Hall) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:27:50 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Message-ID: I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I'll hold the contract. I don't want to hold, but will if that's my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? Billie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090717/c9eefbf8/attachment.html From jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 21:51:00 2009 From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com (James Fleming) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Billie, You've boxed yourself in. You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer. You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation. Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you've received their final offers. Good luck. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I'll hold the contract. I don't want to hold, but will if that's my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? Billie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090717/fbde863f/attachment.html From patricialone at hotmail.com Fri Jul 17 22:21:02 2009 From: patricialone at hotmail.com (Patricia Lone) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You're a realtor James, but I'm questioning this. She has two offers on the table, she hasn't agreed to take either of them at this point. Can't Billie wait and see what happens then take the best of any of the offers or bids she gets?? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Billie, You?ve boxed yourself in. You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer. You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation. Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you?ve received their final offers. Good luck. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I?ll hold the contract. I don?t want to hold, but will if that?s my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? Billie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090717/b387928f/attachment.html From patricialone at hotmail.com Fri Jul 17 23:44:54 2009 From: patricialone at hotmail.com (Patricia Lone) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:44:54 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And just thinking too, is this something that might vary state-by-state so any person would have to look into the laws and ordinances of their own state, or wherever it is the house/property is for sale? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: patricialone at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers You're a realtor James, but I'm questioning this. She has two offers on the table, she hasn't agreed to take either of them at this point. Can't Billie wait and see what happens then take the best of any of the offers or bids she gets?? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Billie, You?ve boxed yourself in. You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer. You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation. Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you?ve received their final offers. Good luck. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I?ll hold the contract. I don?t want to hold, but will if that?s my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? Billie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090717/db472899/attachment.html From jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 02:04:39 2009 From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com (James Fleming) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:39 -0700 Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If Billie doesn't disclose the existence of the offers to the participants of the round robin, Billie is not bargaining in good faith. In essence Billie is being deceitful - lying through omission. I am not licensed to give legal advice, but I suspect Billie would have exposure here. Setting aside the potential legal issues, this is unethical. On the other hand, if the offers are disclosed, who in their right mind will want to bid? What's the point in starting at half the market value when there are two pre-existing offers that are at or near market value? Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:45 PM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers And just thinking too, is this something that might vary state-by-state so any person would have to look into the laws and ordinances of their own state, or wherever it is the house/property is for sale? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) _____ From: patricialone at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers You're a realtor James, but I'm questioning this. She has two offers on the table, she hasn't agreed to take either of them at this point. Can't Billie wait and see what happens then take the best of any of the offers or bids she gets?? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) _____ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Billie, You've boxed yourself in. You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer. You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation. Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you've received their final offers. Good luck. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I'll hold the contract. I don't want to hold, but will if that's my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? Billie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090717/00301b8d/attachment.html From patricialone at hotmail.com Sat Jul 18 03:34:18 2009 From: patricialone at hotmail.com (Patricia Lone) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:34:18 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Okay, thanks for explaining... she never did say what the offers were. Houses have been selling for ridiculous prices these days. I've spoken with one realtor who had a real nice redone house listed at $124,000, it finally sold for $42,000... Houses are selling at crazy prices these days. I'd be curious whatthe contract prices are, but ultimately, it's Billie's decision. If the contract prices are close to market, why go through the 5-day process and risk losing the contracts. Give them up, they might change their minds. It happens.... Thanks again James for explaining things so well for me. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers If Billie doesn?t disclose the existence of the offers to the participants of the round robin, Billie is not bargaining in good faith. In essence Billie is being deceitful ? lying through omission. I am not licensed to give legal advice, but I suspect Billie would have exposure here. Setting aside the potential legal issues, this is unethical. On the other hand, if the offers are disclosed, who in their right mind will want to bid? What?s the point in starting at half the market value when there are two pre-existing offers that are at or near market value? Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:45 PM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers And just thinking too, is this something that might vary state-by-state so any person would have to look into the laws and ordinances of their own state, or wherever it is the house/property is for sale? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: patricialone at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers You're a realtor James, but I'm questioning this. She has two offers on the table, she hasn't agreed to take either of them at this point. Can't Billie wait and see what happens then take the best of any of the offers or bids she gets?? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Billie, You?ve boxed yourself in. You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer. You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation. Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you?ve received their final offers. Good luck. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I?ll hold the contract. I don?t want to hold, but will if that?s my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? Billie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:34 AM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Okay, thanks for explaining... she never did say what the offers were. Houses have been selling for ridiculous prices these days. I've spoken with one realtor who had a real nice redone house listed at $124,000, it finally sold for $42,000... Houses are selling at crazy prices these days. I'd be curious whatthe contract prices are, but ultimately, it's Billie's decision. If the contract prices are close to market, why go through the 5-day process and risk losing the contracts. Give them up, they might change their minds. It happens.... Thanks again James for explaining things so well for me. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) _____ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers If Billie doesn't disclose the existence of the offers to the participants of the round robin, Billie is not bargaining in good faith. In essence Billie is being deceitful - lying through omission. I am not licensed to give legal advice, but I suspect Billie would have exposure here. Setting aside the potential legal issues, this is unethical. On the other hand, if the offers are disclosed, who in their right mind will want to bid? What's the point in starting at half the market value when there are two pre-existing offers that are at or near market value? Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:45 PM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers And just thinking too, is this something that might vary state-by-state so any person would have to look into the laws and ordinances of their own state, or wherever it is the house/property is for sale? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) _____ From: patricialone at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers You're a realtor James, but I'm questioning this. She has two offers on the table, she hasn't agreed to take either of them at this point. Can't Billie wait and see what happens then take the best of any of the offers or bids she gets?? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) _____ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Billie, You've boxed yourself in. You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer. You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation. Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you've received their final offers. Good luck. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I'll hold the contract. I don't want to hold, but will if that's my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? Billie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090718/1c2bd307/attachment.html From patricialone at hotmail.com Sat Jul 18 04:02:11 2009 From: patricialone at hotmail.com (Patricia Lone) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:02:11 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "... who will pay a discounted price..." being something key to look at and consider when making a decision. It's amazing the money that's out there if we look for it. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:50:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I think that Billie?s goal is to complete a sale that doesn?t require Billie to carry a contract. But if Billie does end up having to carry a contract, real estate contracts are relatively simple to liquidate. There are many buyers who will pay a discounted price for a stream of income backed by real estate. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:34 AM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Okay, thanks for explaining... she never did say what the offers were. Houses have been selling for ridiculous prices these days. I've spoken with one realtor who had a real nice redone house listed at $124,000, it finally sold for $42,000... Houses are selling at crazy prices these days. I'd be curious whatthe contract prices are, but ultimately, it's Billie's decision. If the contract prices are close to market, why go through the 5-day process and risk losing the contracts. Give them up, they might change their minds. It happens.... Thanks again James for explaining things so well for me. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers If Billie doesn?t disclose the existence of the offers to the participants of the round robin, Billie is not bargaining in good faith. In essence Billie is being deceitful ? lying through omission. I am not licensed to give legal advice, but I suspect Billie would have exposure here. Setting aside the potential legal issues, this is unethical. On the other hand, if the offers are disclosed, who in their right mind will want to bid? What?s the point in starting at half the market value when there are two pre-existing offers that are at or near market value? Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:45 PM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers And just thinking too, is this something that might vary state-by-state so any person would have to look into the laws and ordinances of their own state, or wherever it is the house/property is for sale? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: patricialone at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers You're a realtor James, but I'm questioning this. She has two offers on the table, she hasn't agreed to take either of them at this point. Can't Billie wait and see what happens then take the best of any of the offers or bids she gets?? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Billie, You?ve boxed yourself in. You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer. You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation. Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you?ve received their final offers. Good luck. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I?ll hold the contract. I don?t want to hold, but will if that?s my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? Billie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090718/8d687577/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sat Jul 18 10:20:09 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:20:09 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Message-ID: Everyone wants you to hold the paper these days. From personal experience, actually my parents, what a nightmare holding paper can be. I wouldn't do it with my houses because everything is new and I when it goes from my hands to the buyers then I DON'T want it back. I would say not to disclose those offers because they aren't part of your process, they outside of the process. Did they make the offers because of your ads? If so, have them come by and bid. Good luck, and I hope you sell this house outright to someone who can qualify for it. Janet In a message dated 7/17/2009 7:31:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Pearlkeeper at live.com writes: I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I?ll hold the contract. I don?t want to hold, but will if that?s my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? Billie _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377099x1201454424/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JulystepsfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090718/14a493bf/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sat Jul 18 10:25:13 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:25:13 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Message-ID: This would all depend on how strong the paper is. Most people offer contracts when they CAN'T get a conforming mortgage. There is a difference between selling paper to a REIT or something, but this kind of paper hardly ever qualifies. Janet In a message dated 7/18/2009 3:04:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, patricialone at hotmail.com writes: "... who will pay a discounted price..." being something key to look at and consider when making a decision. It's amazing the money that's out there if we look for it. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:50:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I think that Billie?s goal is to complete a sale that doesn?t require Billie to carry a contract. But if Billie does end up having to carry a contract, real estate contracts are relatively simple to liquidate. There are many buyers who will pay a discounted price for a stream of income backed by real estate. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:34 AM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Okay, thanks for explaining... she never did say what the offers were. Houses have been selling for ridiculous prices these days. I've spoken with one realtor who had a real nice redone house listed at $124,000, it finally sold for $42,000... Houses are selling at crazy prices these days. I'd be curious whatthe contract prices are, but ultimately, it's Billie's decision. If the contract prices are close to market, why go through the 5-day process and risk losing the contracts. Give them up, they might change their minds. It happens.... Thanks again James for explaining things so well for me. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers If Billie doesn?t disclose the existence of the offers to the participants of the round robin, Billie is not bargaining in good faith. In essence Billie is being deceitful ? lying through omission. I am not licensed to give legal advice, but I suspect Billie would have exposure here. Setting aside the potential legal issues, this is unethical. On the other hand, if the offers are disclosed, who in their right mind will want to bid? What?s the point in starting at half the market value when there are two pre-existing offers that are at or near market value? Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:45 PM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers And just thinking too, is this something that might vary state-by-state so any person would have to look into the laws and ordinances of their own state, or wherever it is the house/property is for sale? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: patricialone at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers You're a realtor James, but I'm questioning this. She has two offers on the table, she hasn't agreed to take either of them at this point. Can't Billie wait and see what happens then take the best of any of the offers or bids she gets?? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Billie, You?ve boxed yourself in. You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer. You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation. Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you?ve received their final offers. Good luck. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I?ll hold the contract. I don?t want to hold, but will if that?s my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? Billie = _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377099x1201454424/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JulystepsfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090718/32d95058/attachment.html From jcrafor at hotmail.com Sat Jul 18 16:11:22 2009 From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:11:22 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't know about that, but I agree completely. I've had numerous requests to do a lease option, or owner carry, or some angle, and I've always refused. Some have been from companies, who say their buyers are really terrific, just need a little time--6-8 months to get their credit straightened out, and they'll get a regular mortgage and pay me off. Yeah, right! If they're that great, let that company fund them. I won't do it. My exit strategy (I think) if the house does not sell, and so far there have been no responses to my ad, is either to hold it FSBO for a while, or, list it with an agency and rent while keeping it for sale. Not the best, but... JCrafor From: Janetislight at aol.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:25:13 -0400 To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers This would all depend on how strong the paper is. Most people offer contracts when they CAN'T get a conforming mortgage. There is a difference between selling paper to a REIT or something, but this kind of paper hardly ever qualifies. Janet In a message dated 7/18/2009 3:04:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, patricialone at hotmail.com writes: "... who will pay a discounted price..." being something key to look at and consider when making a decision. It's amazing the money that's out there if we look for it. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:50:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I think that Billie?s goal is to complete a sale that doesn?t require Billie to carry a contract. But if Billie does end up having to carry a contract, real estate contracts are relatively simple to liquidate. There are many buyers who will pay a discounted price for a stream of income backed by real estate. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:34 AM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Okay, thanks for explaining... she never did say what the offers were. Houses have been selling for ridiculous prices these days. I've spoken with one realtor who had a real nice redone house listed at $124,000, it finally sold for $42,000... Houses are selling at crazy prices these days. I'd be curious whatthe contract prices are, but ultimately, it's Billie's decision. If the contract prices are close to market, why go through the 5-day process and risk losing the contracts. Give them up, they might change their minds. It happens.... Thanks again James for explaining things so well for me. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers If Billie doesn?t disclose the existence of the offers to the participants of the round robin, Billie is not bargaining in good faith. In essence Billie is being deceitful ? lying through omission. I am not licensed to give legal advice, but I suspect Billie would have exposure here. Setting aside the potential legal issues, this is unethical. On the other hand, if the offers are disclosed, who in their right mind will want to bid? What?s the point in starting at half the market value when there are two pre-existing offers that are at or near market value? Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:45 PM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers And just thinking too, is this something that might vary state-by-state so any person would have to look into the laws and ordinances of their own state, or wherever it is the house/property is for sale? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: patricialone at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers You're a realtor James, but I'm questioning this. She has two offers on the table, she hasn't agreed to take either of them at this point. Can't Billie wait and see what happens then take the best of any of the offers or bids she gets?? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Billie, You?ve boxed yourself in. You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer. You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation. Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you?ve received their final offers. Good luck. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I?ll hold the contract. I don?t want to hold, but will if that?s my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090718/6b0b7ef6/attachment.html From jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 18:02:57 2009 From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com (James Fleming) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:02:57 -0700 Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C03DC2F3CFD4DBFB7E9AECAF61598C0@jamesfleming> Both of you make very good points. Sellers should always be cautious in considering offers that ask for seller financing. As a general rule, a receptive seller should compensate for the risk of carrying a contract by 1) setting the interest rate accordingly, 2) writing the contract with standard amortization but with a relatively short term cash-out (i.e., 2 to 5 years), and 3) limiting the amount of the contract to no more than 80% of the purchase price. Assuming that the Seller has done a thorough background check, including a credit report, structuring the contract appropriately will reduce significantly the financial risk associated with carrying a contract. There are legitimate circumstances under which Buyers offer contracts. There are also legitimate reasons why some Sellers prefer, or need, to carry contracts. When real estate contracts are employed under such circumstances and under the guidelines above, there are many investors who will buy them. Remember too that just as investors will buy entire contracts, investors will also buy components of contracts. You might consider selling the monthly payments but not the balloon payment, or the balloon payment but not the monthly payments. Another variation might be to sell only a portion of the payments for a specified period of time. For example, if the payment is $1200 per month, you might consider selling half of the monthly payment, or $600, each month for 24 months, and so on. The possibilities and variations are many. If the contract is strong, you will get favorable terms from your investor. If the contract is not strong, you will have trouble finding an investor; if you do find one, the terms will be stiff. Who buys contracts? The list of investors includes individuals, partnerships, trusts, retirement plans, finance companies, insurance companies, and many others. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of j crafor Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 1:11 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I don't know about that, but I agree completely. I've had numerous requests to do a lease option, or owner carry, or some angle, and I've always refused. Some have been from companies, who say their buyers are really terrific, just need a little time--6-8 months to get their credit straightened out, and they'll get a regular mortgage and pay me off. Yeah, right! If they're that great, let that company fund them. I won't do it. My exit strategy (I think) if the house does not sell, and so far there have been no responses to my ad, is either to hold it FSBO for a while, or, list it with an agency and rent while keeping it for sale. Not the best, but... JCrafor _____ From: Janetislight at aol.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:25:13 -0400 To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers This would all depend on how strong the paper is. Most people offer contracts when they CAN'T get a conforming mortgage. There is a difference between selling paper to a REIT or something, but this kind of paper hardly ever qualifies. Janet In a message dated 7/18/2009 3:04:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, patricialone at hotmail.com writes: "... who will pay a discounted price..." being something key to look at and consider when making a decision. It's amazing the money that's out there if we look for it. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) _____ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:50:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I think that Billie's goal is to complete a sale that doesn't require Billie to carry a contract. But if Billie does end up having to carry a contract, real estate contracts are relatively simple to liquidate. There are many buyers who will pay a discounted price for a stream of income backed by real estate. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:34 AM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Okay, thanks for explaining... she never did say what the offers were. Houses have been selling for ridiculous prices these days. I've spoken with one realtor who had a real nice redone house listed at $124,000, it finally sold for $42,000... Houses are selling at crazy prices these days. I'd be curious whatthe contract prices are, but ultimately, it's Billie's decision. If the contract prices are close to market, why go through the 5-day process and risk losing the contracts. Give them up, they might change their minds. It happens.... Thanks again James for explaining things so well for me. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) _____ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers If Billie doesn't disclose the existence of the offers to the participants of the round robin, Billie is not bargaining in good faith. In essence Billie is being deceitful - lying through omission. I am not licensed to give legal advice, but I suspect Billie would have exposure here. Setting aside the potential legal issues, this is unethical. On the other hand, if the offers are disclosed, who in their right mind will want to bid? What's the point in starting at half the market value when there are two pre-existing offers that are at or near market value? Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:45 PM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers And just thinking too, is this something that might vary state-by-state so any person would have to look into the laws and ordinances of their own state, or wherever it is the house/property is for sale? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) _____ From: patricialone at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers You're a realtor James, but I'm questioning this. She has two offers on the table, she hasn't agreed to take either of them at this point. Can't Billie wait and see what happens then take the best of any of the offers or bids she gets?? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) _____ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Billie, You've boxed yourself in. You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer. You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation. Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you've received their final offers. Good luck. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I'll hold the contract. I don't want to hold, but will if that's my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? Billie = _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! _____ Windows LiveT SkyDriveT: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090718/2531505b/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sat Jul 18 18:27:00 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:27:00 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Message-ID: I agree. It's all in how strong the paper is. But you really need to do your due diligence if you are going to enter into one of these. I don't even rent without a credit report and references any more. You need a financial statement as well, which you need to verify EVERYTHING on it. People can say what they want if you aren't going to check them. If they approach you and tell you they need time to get their credit straight.... back away very slowly.... turn around.... and then run. Others would disagree with me, I just remember my parents doing this a couple of times, neither time worked out. And I'm sure you've seen the condition of enough foreclosures/evictions to know what you are getting into when things don't work out. Janet In a message dated 7/18/2009 5:04:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com writes: Both of you make very good points. Sellers should always be cautious in considering offers that ask for seller financing. As a general rule, a receptive seller should compensate for the risk of carrying a contract by 1) setting the interest rate accordingly, 2) writing the contract with standard amortization but with a relatively short term cash-out (i.e., 2 to 5 years), and 3) limiting the amount of the contract to no more than 80% of the purchase price. Assuming that the Seller has done a thorough background check, including a credit report, structuring the contract appropriately will reduce significantly the financial risk associated with carrying a contract. There are legitimate circumstances under which Buyers offer contracts. There are also legitimate reasons why some Sellers prefer, or need, to carry contracts. When real estate contracts are employed under such circumstances and under the guidelines above, there are many investors who will buy them. Remember too that just as investors will buy entire contracts, investors will also buy components of contracts. You might consider selling the monthly payments but not the balloon payment, or the balloon payment but not the monthly payments. Another variation might be to sell only a portion of the payments for a specified period of time. For example, if the payment is $1200 per month, you might consider selling half of the monthly payment, or $600, each month for 24 months, and so on. The possibilities and variations are many. If the contract is strong, you will get favorable terms from your investor. If the contract is not strong, you will have trouble finding an investor; if you do find one, the terms will be stiff. Who buys contracts? The list of investors includes individuals, partnerships, trusts, retirement plans, finance companies, insurance companies, and many others. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of j crafor Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 1:11 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I don't know about that, but I agree completely. I've had numerous requests to do a lease option, or owner carry, or some angle, and I've always refused. Some have been from companies, who say their buyers are really terrific, just need a little time--6-8 months to get their credit straightened out, and they'll get a regular mortgage and pay me off. Yeah, right! If they're that great, let that company fund them. I won't do it. My exit strategy (I think) if the house does not sell, and so far there have been no responses to my ad, is either to hold it FSBO for a while, or, list it with an agency and rent while keeping it for sale. Not the best, but... JCrafor ____________________________________ From: Janetislight at aol.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:25:13 -0400 To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers This would all depend on how strong the paper is. Most people offer contracts when they CAN'T get a conforming mortgage. There is a difference between selling paper to a REIT or something, but this kind of paper hardly ever qualifies. Janet In a message dated 7/18/2009 3:04:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, patricialone at hotmail.com writes: "... who will pay a discounted price..." being something key to look at and consider when making a decision. It's amazing the money that's out there if we look for it. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:50:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I think that Billie?s goal is to complete a sale that doesn?t require Billie to carry a contract. But if Billie does end up having to carry a contract, real estate contracts are relatively simple to liquidate. There are many buyers who will pay a discounted price for a stream of income backed by real estate. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:34 AM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Okay, thanks for explaining... she never did say what the offers were. Houses have been selling for ridiculous prices these days. I've spoken with one realtor who had a real nice redone house listed at $124,000, it finally sold for $42,000... Houses are selling at crazy prices these days. I'd be curious whatthe contract prices are, but ultimately, it's Billie's decision. If the contract prices are close to market, why go through the 5-day process and risk losing the contracts. Give them up, they might change their minds. It happens.... Thanks again James for explaining things so well for me. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers If Billie doesn?t disclose the existence of the offers to the participants of the round robin, Billie is not bargaining in good faith. In essence Billie is being deceitful ? lying through omission. I am not licensed to give legal advice, but I suspect Billie would have exposure here. Setting aside the potential legal issues, this is unethical. On the other hand, if the offers are disclosed, who in their right mind will want to bid? What?s the point in starting at half the market value when there are two pre-existing offers that are at or near market value? Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:45 PM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers And just thinking too, is this something that might vary state-by-state so any person would have to look into the laws and ordinances of their own state, or wherever it is the house/property is for sale? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: patricialone at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers You're a realtor James, but I'm questioning this. She has two offers on the table, she hasn't agreed to take either of them at this point. Can't Billie wait and see what happens then take the best of any of the offers or bids she gets?? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Billie, You?ve boxed yourself in. You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer. You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation. Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you?ve received their final offers. Good luck. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I?ll hold the contract. I don?t want to hold, but will if that?s my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? 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Sara From 2283657926 at vzwmail.net Wed Jul 15 20:12:23 2009 From: 2283657926 at vzwmail.net (Dr. Gruich) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:12:23 -0500 Subject: [5-DayForum] Local 5-Day Sale Message-ID: I've read the book and would like to visit/talk with someone in my area who is or has conducted a 5-Day sale. I may be missing it but I fail to see on the website how to locate a nearby 5-Day sale, although the book refers readers to the website for this information. Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks. Charlie Gruich From makingchangesinc at comcast.net Tue Jul 21 14:10:38 2009 From: makingchangesinc at comcast.net (Mary Ochoa) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:10:38 -0700 Subject: [5-DayForum] Ad for over a million $ home? Message-ID: <003e01ca0a2e$8d8557a0$a89006e0$@net> CARMEL VALLEY BY OWNER 4BR House in Perfect Location Gorgous!! Ms Bd & Fam w/fp 3.5 Ba Pool 3 Car $1,150,500 or Best Offer Open / Inspection 10-5 Sat-Sun Home Will Be Sold to HIGHEST BIDDER (858) 205-3570 Hello, My ad is costing $500 for the 5 days in San Diego Union Tribune and the home values are $1,300,000 and up. My questions after reading your book & viewing the web page samples are; Should I put this price in ad? Is it to much info? Should I place it their Open House Section of newspaper as well? (they've included it with the $500 cost) BusinessCard Photo Signature Making Changes Inc. Sharing an Amazing Opportunity for a... Healthier, Happier, Richer You!! Mary Ochoa Founder 858 205-3570 "The greatest, greatest change you'll ever make" http://media.monavie.com/VIDEO/Momentum/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090721/228b0b0e/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Gary ________________________________ From: "Janetislight at aol.com" To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:44:47 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] New to this... There is a section with all the info to put on the individual sheets you will be making up.? Additionally, the web site has word documents for you to modify with your info.? I really wish you much luck with this.? I think it's a good idea to have them in Spanish and English, as well as to have someone translate for you.? You shouldn't be the only one there in any event, because you will need help. I flip houses for a living and have not found staging a necessity.? Everything is renovated though, so I want them to see every detail, new floor vents, etc. I am so sorry all of this has happened to you, but I don't think it's an accident that the book found it's way to you.? There are a lot of people on here with great advice, and the author involves himself as well, so you won't be alone.? Ask all the questions you would like and there will be several very knowledgeable people with great advice.? Start with the checklist in the book.? That should give you a good starting point in getting organized. Keep the faith!!! Janet? In a message dated 7/15/2009 2:37:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rpreston at cnbtx.com writes: Hello everyone? > >I am new to this concept, just discovered the book by accident while shopping at Barnes & Noble and found it interesting.? My husband and I bought our dream home about 4 years ago in McAllen , TX ? We were new to the area and within a year my then 6 year old daughter had had 5 sinus surgeries.? She has Cystic Fibrosis and apparently the humidity in the area was just too much for her.? So we had to move again.? We now live in Midland , TX , about 9 hours away (in the desert where it is really dry).? We kept the house because McAllen was one of the fastest growing housing markets in the country and was expected to grow in value about 25% within the next 5 years.? Well, we all know what has happened to the housing market recently.? Renting the house has been a disaster.? We?ve lost more money than we can count trying to repair everything our last renters destroyed ($3,000 on the pool alone because, despite the fact that we were paying for pool maintenance, what we didn?t know was that the renters wouldn?t let the pool company access the pool? of course the pool company didn?t bother to tell us that.? They just kept billing us and we kept paying the bill.? By the time we finally found out what was going on, the pool had become a putting green).? >? >Anyhow, my latest renters are moving out on August 1 and I need to sell the house ASAP.? We bought another house in Midland 2 years ago and cannot afford to pay both mortgages for more than a couple of months.? I have ordered all new carpet and granite countertops to be installed as soon as the renters move out.? I am going to McAllen to do some painting and whatever else I may discover that needs to be fixed.? I?m really nervous about all of this, but feel much more positive than I did about hiring a realtor and hoping for the best.? >? >A few of the questions I have are: >? >1.)???? I read in the book to have different info sheets in different colors throughout the house?but I don?t know what is supposed to be on those sheets.? The only thing I have seen examples of is the one major info sheet with all the dimensions and stuff on it. >2.)???? I have heard that vacant houses are harder to sell than houses that are lived in or ?staged?.? Is that true?? I wanted to stage the house, but with all the other expenses, I don?t think I am going to have any money left to do it.? >3.)???? The timing is concerning to me as well.? Being that my open house will have to be the weekend before schools starts, I?m afraid that the prospective buyers will be distracted.? I wanted to get it sold sooner, but the renters couldn?t get out in time.? Do you think that will be a negative factor? >4.)???? Do I need a settlement agent?? I have searched in the area and cannot find one, though I?m not really sure exactly what I am looking for.? I?ve only searched online.? If the buyers are financing the house, which I assume they will, they will have a settlement agent.? Is that sufficient? >5.)???? I read where someone was offering a $500 bonus if the buyers successfully close the sale within 2 weeks.? Is that common practice?? I would be happy to do it if it would help. >? >Another concern that I have, nothing that you can probably help me with, is the fact that McAllen is a primarily Spanish speaking city and I do not speak Spanish.? I don?t really know anyone in the area and am afraid I will not be able to communicate with the prospective buyers.? I can use Word to translate all the info sheets, but that doesn?t help me in the Round-Robin process.? I may have to try to hire a neighbor or something to help me with that? >? >Sorry for rambling on so long? I guess I am just feeling overwhelmed and wanted to share my story to see if anyone has any advice for me.? I am open to anything that will help.? My plan is to advertise in the local paper and on Craigslist.? I have looked at Craigslist in the McAllen area and it seems to be pretty active.? Apparently quite a few people use it.? I will also make some signs to put out on the street.? It is more difficult because I live so far away and won?t have much time in the area.? 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Check out great laptop deals from Dell! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090715/85535fd4/attachment.html From gnoel88 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 16 10:57:05 2009 From: gnoel88 at yahoo.com (Gary Noel) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out In-Reply-To: <4A5E202F.5000306@effros.com> References: <4A5E202F.5000306@effros.com> Message-ID: <310568.57498.qm@web59510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Hi Bill, Some one from a group I belong to has blocked everyone in the group from sending "mass emails".? I believe it has effected this group also because I'm no longer getting any email on the 5 day forum. I put a question out there for someone to give me some feed back on but I am no longer getting any 5 day forum emails. My question:? I'm an investor who is doing a round robin this week end.? I've only received 3 calls so far.? I've put it in one of the major papers, on craigs list, signs on street corners, and flyers in grocery store.?? Since this is a short sale and the fnal price is determined by the what the bank will accept.? When people ask the question about what the minimum reserve amount is, I tell them it depends on the banks approval.? They don't even want to know the address, they just hang up.? Is there a way to answer their question without them loosing interest? Gary ________________________________ From: Bill Effros To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:30:07 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out Janet, There are many kinds of auctions other than "outcry" auctions.? In most states "outcry auctions" must be run by professional licensed auctioneers. In some states it is not legal to run multiple auctions of? any type in a single year without first obtaining an auctioneer's license. Unstated reserves are also illegal in many states. In most "outcry auctions" you are effectively bidding against the auctioneer, not the other people in the room. Round Robins are not "bidding wars". They are effective to the extent the bidders believe they are bidding against each other, and not against you.? If you state in your rules that bids must be $500 apart, you have no business changing your rule in the middle of bidding.? You will always lose bids if you do this. Always. What's the rush?? If you follow this technique to the letter you will sell your home in 5 days, and both you and the buyer will believe a fair deal was struck.? So it takes an hour longer to get the highest price.? Is your time so valuable that you will give away thousands of dollars because you want to "move them along more quickly"? In a previous lifetime I ran an auction house.? "Regular" auctions are not pretty when seen from behind the scenes, and I would never, ever buy anything at a "regular" auction unless I were part of the "syndicate" that actually determines the prices paid by the "marks" in the audience. The beauty of a properly run 5-Day Sale is that neither side is able to take advantage of the other, so a fair deal is mutually agreed.? No single buyer is separated from the pack, or induced to bid far more than the property is currently worth.? If the high bidder is unable to close the deal, for any reason, there is another, at virtually the same price, ready willing and able to buy the house. You buy real estate at "regular" auctions because you believe the method allows you to buy property for less than it is worth at the current time.? Then you turn around and try to sell the property for more by using a different method. It takes a lot of "nerve" to be a real auctioneer.? You've got to be very fast on your feet, willing to take risks, able to calculate quickly, and it helps if you've got a long dishonesty streak.? Most of the people on this Forum don't fit that description, and it does them a disservice to suggest that changing the rules in the middle of the game will benefit the average first-time 5-Day Home Seller. Bill Effros Author Janetislight at aol.com wrote: I thought about this, and I believe the difference is that I did not give them a "drop dead" price.? I just encouraged them to bid what they thought it was worth.? Then things moved along more quickly.? I am not new to auctions or sales.? And this method, unlike in regular auctions, the "reserve" price is?much higher than?what Bill's method uses.? And everyone knows about it up front.? This is a bidding war, not an auction.? A true auction, you shout out numbers.? You move it along.? When I have bought real estate at an auction the amounts jump 10K and then 5K.? They work too.? ;) >? >Janet >? >In a message dated 7/14/2009 1:52:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Janetislight at aol.com writes: >When I told the bidders to get serious, the bidding started moving an average of 7,500 per bid.? Guess it's all in the way you present it. >>? >>Janet >>? >>? >>In a message dated 7/14/2009 1:45:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, patricialone at hotmail.com writes: >>No explanation to substantiate your disagreement?? So far I'm sold that what Bill is saying is right on the mark.? The bidders came into this believing it was an auction then once they take the bait the game is changed on them.? I can see how that would not work and cause the result that came abut for Terri. >>> >>>Patricia? >>>(please, "not Pat")?? >>> >>>???????????"Aspire to inspire before you expire!" >>>????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Seasons (Powerpoint) >>> >>> ________________________________ From: Janetislight at aol.com >>>Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:44 -0400 >>>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] How my 5-day sale turned out >>> >>> >>>I?disagree. >>> >>>Janet >>> >>>In a message dated 7/14/2009 12:25:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bill at effros.com writes: >>>Terri, >>>> >>>>Too bad. >>>> >>>>I once attended a 5-Day Sale similar to yours. Top bid before the round-round was $256,000.? Owner hoping for $500,000.? Top bid at 11:00 pm Sunday night--$306,000.? Only 2 bidders left, with identical bidding strategies:? "My wife wants this house, and whatever you bid I'm going to bid $500 more." >>>> >>>>These 2 guys kept at it for 4 days.? It was just call after call after call.? But they were bulldogs.? Thursday night the house sold for $726,000 or some number like that. >>>> >>>>You had the 3 real buyers.? You shot yourself in the foot by trying to short circuit the process.? The whole point is letting the buyers decide what your home is worth, and letting them get to that number honestly.? Once they are sure you don't have your thumb on the scale they will fight it out among themselves. >>>> >>>>You can't re-run this house now -- the real buyers won't play.? See what happens with the broker. >>>> >>>>Bill Effros >>>>Author >>>> >>>>Terri Quenzer wrote: >>>>We held our 5-Day Sale over the weekend (I posted a question on the Forum Saturday night about the low bidding). The house is an investment property that we rehabbed?in Carlsbad, CA, and for advertising, I posted it daily on both San Diego and Orange County Craigslist, ran Fri-Sun ads in the North County Times and the Orange County Register, plus my partner and I walked flyers door-to-door mostly within a 1/2 mile radius (as far as 1 mile in some places), and posted 25 hand-written signs at major intersections throughout Carlsbad (they seemed to last longer than pre-printed signs). We had lots of responses (over 120), great turnout at the inspection (~40 groups each day), and 18 bids. The bidding started at $299,500 - we were hoping for around $600K?knowing that there are 4 comps within a 1 mile radius currently pending from $589K - $755K. By the end of the day on Saturday, the top bid was only at $306,000. We went into Sunday confident that the market would sort it out on Sunday night and?were not too worried when we shut down the open house on Sunday at 5 pm with the bidding at $323,000. >>>>> >>>>>What ended up happening in the round-robin bidding was that the initial bidders that actually answered their phones and advanced the bids were only advancing in $1,000 - $2,000 increments, which made the round-robin excruciatingly slow. We started at 7 pm and by 11 pm with only 3 bidders left, the bids were only at >>>>>$353,000. We needed to get at least high $500s to recoup our costs into the property. At that point after telling each of remaining bidders what our bottom line is, two out of the three dropped out, and the third was iffy and has since backed out. >>>>> >>>>>In the meantime, we still have the house. Our original plan for selling the house was to give it our best shot on our own before bringing in a realtor, then, if that >>>>>doesn't get a quality offer within 30 days, to make it into a rental and hang on to it for 5-7 years while the market turns around. I'm satisfied that we gave it our best shot. >>>>> >>>>>Oceanside, which is adjacent to Carlsbad,?has a high rate of foreclosures (as does several other parts of San Diego County and near-by Riverside County). I think that had an impact on our 5-Day sale because with all the foreclosures on the market in the San Diego area, people go to auctions around here expecting to pay half price for a home, and are willing to pay slightly more than that for a home that's been upgraded. In that respect, it's probably unlike other areas that have not been so hard-hit by foreclosures, where buyers know the full market value of homes and recognize not only that it's highly unlikely that they will actually buy the home at half price, but are very happy with any discount that brings them somewhat below full market price. >>>>> >>>>>On the other hand, this is my second 5-Day experience - I practiced a couple of weeks ago doing a 5-Day rental on a family house that I just renovated to rent out, and it worked beautifully! Interestingly, for the 5-Day rental, most of the responses came from Craigslist, whereas for the 5-Day sale, few came from Craigslist and most came from the flyers and signs. >>>>> >>>>>Terri >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>5-DayForum mailing list >>>>>5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>5-DayForum mailing list >>>>5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>>>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>>> >>> >>> ________________________________ An Excellent Credit Score is 750. 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I don't get it. ________________________________ From: "Janetislight at aol.com" To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 5:27:00 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I agree.? It's all in how strong the paper is.??But you really need to do your due diligence if you are going to enter into one of these.? I don't even rent without a credit report and references any more.? You need a financial statement as well, which you need to verify EVERYTHING on it.? People can say what they want if you aren't going to check them.? If they approach you and tell you they need time to get their credit straight.... back away very slowly.... turn around.... and then run.? Others would disagree with me, I just remember my parents doing this a couple of times, neither time worked out.? And I'm sure you've seen the condition of enough foreclosures/evictions to know what you are getting into when things don't work out. Janet In a message dated 7/18/2009 5:04:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com writes: Both of you make very good points.? Sellers should always be cautious in considering offers that ask for seller financing.? >? >As a general rule, a receptive seller should compensate for the risk of carrying a contract by 1) setting the interest rate accordingly, 2) writing the contract with standard amortization but with a relatively short term cash-out (i.e., 2 to 5 years), and 3) limiting the amount of the contract to no more than 80% of the purchase price.? Assuming that the Seller has done a thorough background check, including a credit report, structuring the contract appropriately will reduce significantly the financial risk associated with carrying a contract. >? >There are legitimate circumstances under which Buyers offer contracts.? There are also legitimate reasons why some Sellers prefer, or need, to carry contracts.? When real estate contracts are employed under such circumstances and under the guidelines above, there are many investors who will buy them.? >? >Remember too that just as investors will buy entire contracts, investors will also buy components of contracts.? You might consider selling the monthly payments but not the balloon payment, or the balloon payment but not the monthly payments.? Another variation might be to sell only a portion of the payments for a specified period of time. ?For example, if the payment is $1200 per month, you might consider selling half of the monthly payment, or $600, each month for 24 months, and so on.? The possibilities and variations are many.? >? >If the contract is strong, you will get favorable terms from your investor.? If the contract is not strong, you will have trouble finding an investor; if you do find one, the terms will be stiff.? >? >Who buys contracts?? The list of investors includes individuals, partnerships, trusts, retirement plans, finance companies, insurance companies, and many others. >? >Jim, Realtor >Vancouver WA >? > ________________________________ >From:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of j crafor >Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 1:11 PM >To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home >Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers >? >I don't know about that, but I agree completely. I've had numerous requests to do a lease option, or owner carry, or some angle, and I've always refused. Some have been from companies, who say their buyers?are really terrific, just need a little time--6-8 months to get their credit straightened out, and they'll get a regular mortgage and pay me off. >? >Yeah, right! >? >If they're that great, let that company fund them. >? >I?won't do it. My exit strategy (I think) if the house does not sell, and so far there have been no responses to?my ad, is either to hold it FSBO for? a while, or, list it with an agency?and rent while keeping it for sale. Not the best, but... >?JCrafor > ________________________________ >From: Janetislight at aol.com >Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:25:13 -0400 >To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers > > > >This would all depend on how strong the paper is.? Most people offer contracts when they CAN'T get a conforming mortgage.? There is a difference between selling paper to a REIT or something, but this kind of paper hardly ever qualifies. >? >Janet >? >? >In a message dated 7/18/2009 3:04:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, patricialone at hotmail.com writes: >"... who will pay a discounted price..." being something key to look at and consider when making a decision.? It's amazing the money that's out there if we look for it. >> >>Patricia? >>(please, "not Pat")?? >> >>???????????"Aspire to inspire before you expire!" >>????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Seasons (Powerpoint) >> ________________________________ >>From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com >>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:50:46 -0700 >>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers >>I think that Billie?s goal is to complete a sale that doesn?t require Billie to carry a contract.? But if Billie does end up having to carry a contract, real estate contracts are relatively simple to liquidate.? There are many buyers who will pay a discounted price for a stream of income backed by real estate. >>? >>Jim, Realtor >>VancouverWA? >>? >> ________________________________ >>From:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone >>Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:34 AM >>To: 5-Day Forum >>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers >>? >>Okay, thanks for explaining... she never did say what the offers were.? Houses have been selling for ridiculous prices these days.? I've spoken with one realtor who had a real nice redone house listed at $124,000, it finally sold for $42,000... Houses are selling at crazy prices these days.? I'd be curious whatthe contract prices are, but ultimately, it's Billie's decision.? If the contract prices are close to market, why go through the 5-day process and risk losing the contracts.? Give them up, they might change their minds.? It happens.... >> >>Thanks again James for explaining things so?well for me. >> >>Patricia? >>(please, "not Pat")?? >> >>???????????"Aspire to inspire before you expire!" >>????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Seasons (Powerpoint) >> ________________________________ >> >>From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com >>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:39 -0700 >>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers >>If Billie doesn?t disclose the existence of the offers to the participants of the round robin, Billie is not bargaining in good faith.? In essence Billie is being deceitful ? lying through omission.? I am not licensed to give legal advice, but I suspect Billie would have exposure here.? Setting aside the potential legal issues, this is unethical. >>? >>On the other hand, if the offers are disclosed, who in their right mind will want to bid?? What?s the point in starting at half the market value when there are two pre-existing offers that are at or near market value? >>? >>Jim, Realtor >>VancouverWA >>? >> ________________________________ >>From:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone >>Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:45 PM >>To: 5-Day Forum >>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers >>? >>And just thinking too, is this something that might vary state-by-state so any person would have to look into the laws and ordinances of their own state, or wherever it is the house/property is for sale? >> >>Patricia? >>(please, "not Pat")?? >> >>???????????"Aspire to inspire before you expire!" >>????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Seasons (Powerpoint) >> ________________________________ >>From: patricialone at hotmail.com >>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:21:02 -0400 >>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers >> >>You're?a realtor James, but I'm questioning this.? She has two offers on the table, she hasn't agreed to take either of them at this point.? Can't Billie wait and see what happens then take the best of any of the offers or bids she gets?? >> >>Patricia? >>(please, "not Pat")?? >> >>???????????"Aspire to inspire before you expire!" >>????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Seasons (Powerpoint) >> ________________________________ >>? >> >>From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com >>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 >>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers >>Billie, >>? >>You?ve boxed yourself in.? You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. >>? >>If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer.? You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. >>? >>If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation.? Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you?ve received their final offers. >>? >>Good luck. >>? >>Jim, Realtor >>VancouverWA >>? >> ________________________________ >>From:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall >>Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM >>To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers >>? >>I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I?ll hold the contract.? I don?t want to hold, but will if that?s my best offer.? 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Name: Tamara Tarr.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 203 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090721/30fd60fd/attachment.vcf From bill at effros.com Tue Jul 21 23:08:40 2009 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:08:40 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Ad for over a million $ home? In-Reply-To: <003e01ca0a2e$8d8557a0$a89006e0$@net> References: <003e01ca0a2e$8d8557a0$a89006e0$@net> Message-ID: <4A6682B8.3040104@effros.com> idiosyncratic spelling of "gorgeous" price not a magic number home probably not currently worth $2,250,000. Bill Effros Author Mary Ochoa wrote: > > CARMEL VALLEY BY OWNER > > 4BR House in Perfect Location > > Gorgous!! Ms Bd & Fam w/fp 3.5 Ba Pool 3 Car > > $1,150,500 or Best Offer > > Open / Inspection 10-5 Sat-Sun > > Home Will Be Sold to > > HIGHEST BIDDER (858) 205-3570 > > > > > > Hello, > > My ad is costing $500 for the 5 days in San Diego Union Tribune and > the home values are $1,300,000 and up. My questions after reading > your book & viewing the web page samples are; > > Should I put this price in ad? > > Is it to much info? > > Should I place it their Open House Section of newspaper as well? > (they've included it with the $500 cost) > > > > > > > > BusinessCard Photo Signature > > Making Changes Inc. > > /Sharing an Amazing Opportunity for a.../ > > *Healthier, Happier, Richer You!!* > > *Mary Ochoa* > > *Founder* > > 858 205-3570 > > / / > > /"//The greatest, greatest change you'll ever make" / > > /http://media.monavie.com/VIDEO/Momentum// > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I also emailed some Real Estate Investors I met at a Real Estate Investing conference in Toronto about 2yrs ago. (about 25 people). You never know, right? I also posted an ad on an internet site called "Kijiji" ( www.kijiji.ca , or www.kijiji.com in the U.S.). Craig's List is big here in Canada too but so is Kijiji. I didn't find Craig's List to be very user friendly. So far all my calls have been from the flyers. I will continue to track ad source and see if the internet ads generated any hits. It is day one and I have received about 15 calls so far and 3 emails. I am going nuts trying to get everything together...thank goodness I have helpful friends...! To be continued... Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090721/346a324b/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sky High Planning, Inc. 7380 Sand Lake Rd. #500 Orlando, FL 32819 Office: (407) 352-3220 Fax: (407) 738-4816 Cell: (646) 552-0107 skyhighplanning at gmail.com Coming Soon: www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com "It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible" - Walt Disney On Jul 15, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Gary Noel wrote: > I have a question.... I am an investor who is doing a 5 Day auction > on a short sale property. First 5 day. The final sale price is > subject to the lenders' approval. I haven't received a lot of calls > but the fact the final price is subject to the lenders' approval is > causing people to stop before they begin. When people ask the > questions I give them the truth. Is there a way to give them the > truth so they will want to show up and bid this week end? Please > advise. Thank you in advance for your help, wisdom and guidance. > > Gary > > From: "Janetislight at aol.com" > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:44:47 PM > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] New to this... > > There is a section with all the info to put on the individual sheets > you will be making up. Additionally, the web site has word > documents for you to modify with your info. I really wish you much > luck with this. I think it's a good idea to have them in Spanish > and English, as well as to have someone translate for you. You > shouldn't be the only one there in any event, because you will need > help. > > I flip houses for a living and have not found staging a necessity. > Everything is renovated though, so I want them to see every detail, > new floor vents, etc. > > I am so sorry all of this has happened to you, but I don't think > it's an accident that the book found it's way to you. There are a > lot of people on here with great advice, and the author involves > himself as well, so you won't be alone. Ask all the questions you > would like and there will be several very knowledgeable people with > great advice. Start with the checklist in the book. That should > give you a good starting point in getting organized. > > Keep the faith!!! > > Janet > > In a message dated 7/15/2009 2:37:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rpreston at cnbtx.com > writes: > Hello everyone? > > > I am new to this concept, just discovered the book by accident while > shopping at Barnes & Noble and found it interesting. My husband and > I bought our dream home about 4 years ago in McAllen , TX ? We were > new to the area and within a year my then 6 year old daughter had ha > d 5 sinus surgeries. She has Cystic Fibrosis and apparently the hum > idity in the area was just too much for her. So we had to move agai > n. We now live in Midland , TX , about 9 hours away (in the desert > where it is really dry). We kept the house because McAllen was one > of the fastest growing housing markets in the country and was expect > ed to grow in value about 25% within the next 5 years. Well, we all > know what has happened to the housing market recently. Renting the > house has been a disaster. We?ve lost more money than we can count > trying to repair everything our last renters destroyed ($3,000 on t > he pool alone because, despite the fact that we were paying for pool > maintenance, what we didn?t know was that the renters wouldn?t > let the pool company access the pool? of course the pool company did > n?t bother to tell us that. They just kept billing us and we kept p > aying the bill. By the time we finally found out what was going on, > the pool had become a putting green). > > > > Anyhow, my latest renters are moving out on August 1 and I need to > sell the house ASAP. We bought another house in Midland 2 years ago > and cannot afford to pay both mortgages for more than a couple of > months. I have ordered all new carpet and granite countertops to be > installed as soon as the renters move out. I am going to McAllen to > do some painting and whatever else I may discover that needs to be > fixed. I?m really nervous about all of this, but feel much more pos > itive than I did about hiring a realtor and hoping for the best. > > > > A few of the questions I have are: > > > > 1.) I read in the book to have different info sheets in > different colors throughout the house?but I don?t know what is > supposed to be on those sheets. The only thing I have seen examples > of is the one major info sheet with all the dimensions and stuff on > it. > > 2.) I have heard that vacant houses are harder to sell than > houses that are lived in or ?staged?. Is that true? I wanted to > stage the house, but with all the other expenses, I don?t think I am > going to have any money left to do it. > > 3.) The timing is concerning to me as well. Being that my open > house will have to be the weekend before schools starts, I?m afraid > that the prospective buyers will be distracted. I wanted to get it > sold sooner, but the renters couldn?t get out in time. Do you think > that will be a negative factor? > > 4.) Do I need a settlement agent? I have searched in the area > and cannot find one, though I?m not really sure exactly what I am lo > oking for. I?ve only searched online. If the buyers are financing > the house, which I assume they will, they will have a settlement age > nt. Is that sufficient? > > 5.) I read where someone was offering a $500 bonus if the buyers > successfully close the sale within 2 weeks. Is that common > practice? I would be happy to do it if it would help. > > > > Another concern that I have, nothing that you can probably help me > with, is the fact that McAllen is a primarily Spanish speaking city > and I do not speak Spanish. I don?t really know anyone in the area > and am afraid I will not be able to communicate with the prospective > buyers. I can use Word to translate all the info sheets, but that > doesn?t help me in the Round-Robin process. I may have to try to hi > re a neighbor or something to help me with that? > > > > Sorry for rambling on so long? I guess I am just feeling overwhelmed > and wanted to share my story to see if anyone has any advice for me > . I am open to anything that will help. My plan is to advertise in > the local paper and on Craigslist. I have looked at Craigslist in > the McAllen area and it seems to be pretty active. Apparently quite > a few people use it. I will also make some signs to put out on the > street. It is more difficult because I live so far away and won?t > have much time in the area. I am taking a week off work to go down > there and will have to drive back first thing Monday morning after t > he open house. > > > > Thanks for any advice!!! > > > > Renee Preston > > Credit Analyst > > CNB Energy Team > > > > > > > > ********** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE*************** This message > contains information that may be confidential and privileged. Unless > you are the addressee or authorized to receive for the addressee, > you may not use, copy or disclose the message or any information > contained in the message to anyone. If you have received the message > in error, please advise the sender by reply and delete the message. > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great laptop > deals from Dell! > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/3d0e3f1c/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Wed Jul 22 09:10:15 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:10:15 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] The add is fraudulent Message-ID: That was my attorney's first reaction until I told him I would tell every person that walked in the door that no bid is binding on either side until a contract is signed. Attorneys are very, very leery of this method. But I was given to go ahead once I explained that I would do this. Janet In a message dated 7/21/2009 10:04:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rpagel at hotmail.com writes: Hi, I talked with a local attorney about running the 5-day add and he's telling me that it's fraudulent. His comment is that you never intend to sell the house for the amount listed and could be sued if you don't sell it if that your only offer or could be sued anyway just for running the add if it wasn't your intention. Any body else hear this? Now I feel like I can't run the add or need to change it to make it clear there is a minimum. Suggestions or thoughts? Thanks Rich = _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************Dell Deals: Treat yourself to a sweet deal on popular laptops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223096155x1201715982/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D6) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/dc2f7ea3/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Wed Jul 22 09:13:50 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:13:50 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Message-ID: This would have happened to me if someone didn't step up with a contract early for the price I had it listed for. I think there IS a certain type of property and economic condition that this method is suited for. Janet In a message dated 7/21/2009 10:07:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gnoel88 at yahoo.com writes: I had 20 people show up to the auction. Ten people left bids. The property is a townhouse and the other town houses in the complex are selling from the high 150's (foreclosures) to the low 180's. We adverised $84,500 and the bidding started at $85,500. Unfortunitely the bidding stopped at $94,000. Any ideas on what might have gone wrong? It came down to three people bidding against each other, after one dropped out shortly there after the other one dropped out. I didn't tell any of them how many bidders were left. I don't get it. ____________________________________ From: "Janetislight at aol.com" To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 5:27:00 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I agree. It's all in how strong the paper is. But you really need to do your due diligence if you are going to enter into one of these. I don't even rent without a credit report and references any more. You need a financial statement as well, which you need to verify EVERYTHING on it. People can say what they want if you aren't going to check them. If they approach you and tell you they need time to get their credit straight.... back away very slowly.... turn around.... and then run. Others would disagree with me, I just remember my parents doing this a couple of times, neither time worked out. And I'm sure you've seen the condition of enough foreclosures/evictions to know what you are getting into when things don't work out. Janet In a message dated 7/18/2009 5:04:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com writes: Both of you make very good points. Sellers should always be cautious in considering offers that ask for seller financing. As a general rule, a receptive seller should compensate for the risk of carrying a contract by 1) setting the interest rate accordingly, 2) writing the contract with standard amortization but with a relatively short term cash-out (i.e., 2 to 5 years), and 3) limiting the amount of the contract to no more than 80% of the purchase price. Assuming that the Seller has done a thorough background check, including a credit report, structuring the contract appropriately will reduce significantly the financial risk associated with carrying a contract. There are legitimate circumstances under which Buyers offer contracts. There are also legitimate reasons why some Sellers prefer, or need, to carry contracts. When real estate contracts are employed under such circumstances and under the guidelines above, there are many investors who will buy them. Remember too that just as investors will buy entire contracts, investors will also buy components of contracts. You might consider selling the monthly payments but not the balloon payment, or the balloon payment but not the monthly payments. Another variation might be to sell only a portion of the payments for a specified period of time. For example, if the payment is $1200 per month, you might consider selling half of the monthly payment, or $600, each month for 24 months, and so on. The possibilities and variations are many. If the contract is strong, you will get favorable terms from your investor. If the contract is not strong, you will have trouble finding an investor; if you do find one, the terms will be stiff. Who buys contracts? The list of investors includes individuals, partnerships, trusts, retirement plans, finance companies, insurance companies, and many others. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of j crafor Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 1:11 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I don't know about that, but I agree completely. I've had numerous requests to do a lease option, or owner carry, or some angle, and I've always refused. Some have been from companies, who say their buyers are really terrific, just need a little time--6-8 months to get their credit straightened out, and they'll get a regular mortgage and pay me off. Yeah, right! If they're that great, let that company fund them. I won't do it. My exit strategy (I think) if the house does not sell, and so far there have been no responses to my ad, is either to hold it FSBO for a while, or, list it with an agency and rent while keeping it for sale. Not the best, but... JCrafor ____________________________________ From: Janetislight at aol.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:25:13 -0400 To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers This would all depend on how strong the paper is. Most people offer contracts when they CAN'T get a conforming mortgage. There is a difference between selling paper to a REIT or something, but this kind of paper hardly ever qualifies. Janet In a message dated 7/18/2009 3:04:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, patricialone at hotmail.com writes: "... who will pay a discounted price..." being something key to look at and consider when making a decision. It's amazing the money that's out there if we look for it. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:50:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I think that Billie?s goal is to complete a sale that doesn?t require Billie to carry a contract. But if Billie does end up having to carry a contract, real estate contracts are relatively simple to liquidate. There are many buyers who will pay a discounted price for a stream of income backed by real estate. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:34 AM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Okay, thanks for explaining... she never did say what the offers were. Houses have been selling for ridiculous prices these days. I've spoken with one realtor who had a real nice redone house listed at $124,000, it finally sold for $42,000... Houses are selling at crazy prices these days. I'd be curious whatthe contract prices are, but ultimately, it's Billie's decision. If the contract prices are close to market, why go through the 5-day process and risk losing the contracts. Give them up, they might change their minds. It happens.... Thanks again James for explaining things so well for me. Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers If Billie doesn?t disclose the existence of the offers to the participants of the round robin, Billie is not bargaining in good faith. In essence Billie is being deceitful ? lying through omission. I am not licensed to give legal advice, but I suspect Billie would have exposure here. Setting aside the potential legal issues, this is unethical. On the other hand, if the offers are disclosed, who in their right mind will want to bid? What?s the point in starting at half the market value when there are two pre-existing offers that are at or near market value? Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Lone Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:45 PM To: 5-Day Forum Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers And just thinking too, is this something that might vary state-by-state so any person would have to look into the laws and ordinances of their own state, or wherever it is the house/property is for sale? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: patricialone at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:21:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers You're a realtor James, but I'm questioning this. She has two offers on the table, she hasn't agreed to take either of them at this point. Can't Billie wait and see what happens then take the best of any of the offers or bids she gets?? Patricia (please, "not Pat") "Aspire to inspire before you expire!" Seasons (Powerpoint) ____________________________________ From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers Billie, You?ve boxed yourself in. You should either reject both offers immediately or cancel your sale. If you reject both offers, you can go ahead with your sale and honestly tell your bidders that you will accept the best offer. You can even invite the people who made the rejected contract offers to participate. If you cancel your sale, you can go back to the people who made the contract offers and tell them that they are in a multiple offer situation. Give them two days to make their best offer. Tell them that you will make your decision as to whether to accept one of their offers or to go forward with a 5-day sale after you?ve received their final offers. Good luck. Jim, Realtor Vancouver WA ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Billie Hall Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Previous Offers I am going into a 5-day sell this weekend and I have 2 offers on the table if I?ll hold the contract. I don?t want to hold, but will if that?s my best offer. My question is, do I need to reveal these offers from the beginning, or do I wait till the biddings over and see how it goes? 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Chica Investor/ Real Estate Solutions Co. Sky High Planning, Inc. 7380 Sand Lake Rd. #500 Orlando, FL 32819 Office: (407) 352-3220 Fax: (407) 738-4816 Cell: (646) 552-0107 _skyhighplanning at gmail.com_ (mailto:skyhighplanning at gmail.com) Coming Soon: _www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com_ (http://www.skyhighplanning.com/) "It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible" - Walt Disney On Jul 15, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Gary Noel <_gnoel88 at yahoo.com_ (mailto:gnoel88 at yahoo.com) > wrote: I have a question.... I am an investor who is doing a 5 Day auction on a short sale property. First 5 day. The final sale price is subject to the lenders' approval. I haven't received a lot of calls but the fact the final price is subject to the lenders' approval is causing people to stop before they begin. When people ask the questions I give them the truth. Is there a way to give them the truth so they will want to show up and bid this week end? Please advise. Thank you in advance for your help, wisdom and guidance. Gary ____________________________________ From: "_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) " <_Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) > To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:44:47 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] New to this... There is a section with all the info to put on the individual sheets you will be making up. Additionally, the web site has word documents for you to modify with your info. I really wish you much luck with this. I think it's a good idea to have them in Spanish and English, as well as to have someone translate for you. You shouldn't be the only one there in any event, because you will need help. I flip houses for a living and have not found staging a necessity. Everything is renovated though, so I want them to see every detail, new floor ven ts, etc. I am so sorry all of this has happened to you, but I don't think it's an accident that the book found it's way to you. There are a lot of people on here with great advice, and the author involves himself as well, so you won't be alone. Ask all the questions you would like and there will be several very knowledgeable people with great advice. Start with the checklist in the book. That should give you a good starting point in getting organized. Keep the faith!!! Janet In a message dated 7/15/2009 2:37:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _rpreston at cnbtx.com_ (mailto:rpreston at cnbtx.com) writes: Hello everyone? I am new to this concept, just discovered the book by accident while shopping at Barnes & Noble and found it interesting. My husband and I bought our dream home about 4 years ago in McAllen , TX ? We were new to the area and within a year my then 6 year old daughter had had 5 sinus surgeries. She has Cystic Fibrosis and apparently the humidity in the area was just too much for her. So we had to move again. We now live in Midland , TX , about 9 hours away (in the desert where it is really dry). We kept the house because McAllen was one of the fastest growing housing markets in the country and was expected to grow in value about 25% within the next 5 years. Well, we all know what has happened to the housing market recently. Renting the house has been a disaster. We?ve lost more money than we can count trying to repair everything our last renters destroyed ($3,000 on the pool alone because, despite the fact that we were paying for pool maintenance, what we didn?t know was that the renters wouldn?t let the pool company access the pool? of course the pool company didn?t bother to tell us that. They just kept billing us and we kept paying the bill. By the time we finally found out what was going on, the pool had become a putting green). Anyhow, my latest renters are moving out on August 1 and I need to sell the house ASAP. We bought another house in Midland 2 years ago and cannot afford to pay both mortgages for more than a couple of months. I have ordered all new carpet and granite countertops to be installed as soon as the renters move out. I am going to McAllen to do some painting and whatever else I may discover that needs to be fixed. I?m really nervous about all of this, but feel much more positive than I did about hiring a realtor and hoping for the best. A few of the questions I have are: 1.) I read in the book to have different info sheets in different colors throughout the house?but I don?t know what is supposed to be on those sheets. The only thing I have seen examples of is the one major info sheet with all the dimensions and stuff on it. 2.) I have heard that vacant houses are harder to sell than houses that are lived in or ?staged?. Is that true? I wanted to stage the house, but with all the other expenses, I don?t think I am going to have any money left to do it. 3.) The timing is concerning to me as well. Being that my open house will have to be the weekend before schools starts, I?m afraid that the prospective buyers will be distracted. I wanted to get it sold sooner, but the renters couldn?t get out in time. Do you think that will be a negative factor? 4.) Do I need a settlement agent? I have searched in the area and cannot find one, though I?m not really sure exactly what I am looking for. I? ve only searched online. If the buyers are financing the house, which I assume they will, they will have a settlement agent. Is that sufficient? 5.) I read where someone was offering a $500 bonus if the buyers successfully close the sale within 2 weeks. Is that common practice? I would be happy to do it if it would help. Another concern that I have, nothing that you can probably help me with, is the fact that McAllen is a primarily Spanish speaking city and I do not speak Spanish. I don?t really know anyone in the area and am afraid I will not be able to communicate with the prospective buyers. I can use Word to translate all the info sheets, but that doesn?t help me in the Round-Robin process. I may have to try to hire a neighbor or something to help me with that? Sorry for rambling on so long? I guess I am just feeling overwhelmed and wanted to share my story to see if anyone has any advice for me. I am open to anything that will help. My plan is to advertise in the local paper and on Craigslist. I have looked at Craigslist in the McAllen area and it seems to be pretty active. Apparently quite a few people use it. I will also make some signs to put out on the street. It is more difficult because I live so far away and won?t have much time in the area. 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Mine has printed on it that the title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific questions, bring them here. As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was waiting THAT MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the buyer wants to do, at the least. JCrafor > From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 > Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please > > I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything ready. The > one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid Sunday > night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I contacted a > Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good but I am > a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. > Suggestions? > > Sara > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest sports videos. 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I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a question, I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that the title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific questions, bring them here. As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was waiting THAT MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the buyer wants to do, at the least. JCrafor > From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 > Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please > > I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything ready. The > one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid Sunday > night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I contacted a > Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good but I am > a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. > Suggestions? > > Sara > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ____________________________________ Windows Live? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/56bcef46/attachment.html From jcrafor at hotmail.com Wed Jul 22 10:08:17 2009 From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:08:17 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] The add is fraudulent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm susre more people will respond, but, basically I think He's right-if he's talking about a price you have listed on the mls, and people here suggest that you remove it from there a few days before. On your 5day sale ads, make it clear to people the house will be sold via round robin bidding and you fully expect that people will bid more than that after they see it. That amount is to get attention. Tell them there is an undisclosed minimum reserve (if your state law allows it--look up that statute) Some people will ask what the minimum reserve is, I just answer, it's undisclosed. If they push, "Sorry, I'm not telling anyone, it's undisclosed." Depends partly on your state law. Look up your state statute regarding auctions. In my state, an auction has an automatic minimum reserve unless it's specifically stated that it does not. I change my wording from "will be sold" to "will be offered" I don't use highest bidder, I use Best bidder I also generally indicate there is a minimum reserve. and I have on just about every sheet of info that neighte the buyer or the seller is obligated until the final signatures are written, that either can withdraw at any point. I make it clear-in fact, "the seller may withdraw the house at any time until he announces the completion of the sale. A bidder may retract his bid until the seller's announcement of completion of the sale is written at the bottom of the bidding method sheets, the descriptions, and the rules sheets in a separate paragraph. Mine is on the mls at a price, and I have in my sale ads, bidding starts at (half) that, just in case my lister does not get it removed in time. Best wishes. JCrafor From: rpagel at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:53:53 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] The add is fraudulent Hi, I talked with a local attorney about running the 5-day add and he's telling me that it's fraudulent. His comment is that you never intend to sell the house for the amount listed and could be sued if you don't sell it if that your only offer or could be sued anyway just for running the add if it wasn't your intention. Any body else hear this? Now I feel like I can't run the add or need to change it to make it clear there is a minimum. Suggestions or thoughts? Thanks Rich _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. 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Chica Investor/Real Estate Solutions Co Sky High Planning, Inc. 7380 Sand Lake Rd. #500 Orlando, FL 32819 Office: (407) 352-3220 Fax: (407) 738-4816 Cell: (646) 552-0107 skyhighplanning at gmail.com Coming Soon: www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com "It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible" - Walt Disney On Jul 22, 2009, at 9:58 AM, Janetislight at aol.com wrote: > Yes, they do need to inspect the house prior to closing. As least > most settlement agents will require this. It is usually done "just" > before closing. > > Janet > > In a message dated 7/22/2009 8:54:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jcrafor at hotmail.com > writes: > > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for > the buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always > loike to have another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on > the good one, to turn in. > > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a > question, I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed > on it that the title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did > answer a few questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you > have specific questions, bring them here. > > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was > waiting THAT MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the > buyer could check me if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the > originals out.) > > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a > coffee shop or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my > case) get the earnest money, and either you go alone, or both of you > go to the title company and turn the papers in. Ask there what you > do next. They'll guide you. > I would guess you need to make the house available for any > inspections the buyer wants to do, at the least. > > JCrafor > > From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > > To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 > > Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please > > > > I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost > everything ready. The > > one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid > Sunday > > night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I > contacted a > > Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and > good but I am > > a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms > properly. > > Suggestions? > > > > Sara > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 5-DayForum mailing list > > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest > sports videos. 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/0367cbeb/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Wed Jul 22 11:17:40 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:17:40 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please Message-ID: My settlement agent required it in case there were funds to be escrowed for fixing whatever it is that might need to be fixed. I think they are all different. Janet In a message dated 7/22/2009 9:28:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, skyhighplanning at gmail.com writes: The settlemet agent shouldn't require it but the buyer may want to have one before closing is scheduled. Carlos A. Chica Investor/Real Estate Solutions Co Sky High Planning, Inc. 7380 Sand Lake Rd. #500 Orlando, FL 32819 Office: (407) 352-3220 Fax: (407) 738-4816 Cell: (646) 552-0107 _skyhighplanning at gmail.com_ (mailto:skyhighplanning at gmail.com) Coming Soon: _www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com_ (http://www.skyhighplanning.com/) "It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible" - Walt Disney On Jul 22, 2009, at 9:58 AM, _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) wrote: Yes, they do need to inspect the house prior to closing. As least most settlement agents will require this. It is usually done "just" before closing. Janet In a message dated 7/22/2009 8:54:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, _jcrafor at hotmail.com_ (mailto:jcrafor at hotmail.com) writes: What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to have another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to turn in. I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a question, I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that the title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific questions, bring them here. As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was waiting THAT MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the buyer wants to do, at the least. JCrafor > From: _dsmtj at bresnan.net_ (mailto:dsmtj at bresnan.net) > To: _5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com) > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 > Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please > > I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything ready. The > one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid Sunday > night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I contacted a > Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good but I am > a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. > Suggestions? > > Sara > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > _5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) > _http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum_ (http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum) ____________________________________ Windows Live? 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Thanks, Linda On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:05 AM, John Paul Perez wrote: > Linda, > > your right, there is a solution.. I'll be posting my version of this system > soon.. Keep a look out... > > Thanks, > Jp > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:57:16 -0500 > > From: go.jelinco at gmail.com > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] not so fast > > No worries JP...I'm not disappointed at all. Since you agree that what I > say is true, then there must be some sort of solution to this > problem....there always is. I'm just wondering if anyone knows if there is > a way to actually get the top price that the top bidder is willing to pay > for the house...not just where the bidding stops. I think that sellers > don't want to leave any money on the table when all is said and done. > > Also, what education do you propose in educating ourselves and more > importantly, our buyers (bidders)? > > Thanks, > Linda > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:03 PM, John Paul Perez wrote: > > I have notice a trend on this forum. The biggest compliant I seem to to > hear over and over again, is the "true Market Value" of the property. Linda > what you say is true. Do you really expect your buyers to pay more than they > have to? I hate to disappoint you, but they wont. There is only one (1) > solution to this problem......EDUCATION!!!! Sellers and Buyers both, need to > be educated on what exactly Fair market value is. > > As I have stated earlier, I have been selling homes using a method similar > to this for a while now and have been very successful. > > best of luck, > Jp > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:49:55 -0500 > From: go.jelinco at gmail.com > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] not so fast > > I've been thinking about this quite a bit lately. I've been comparing it > to what happens on eBay. I think that you are most likely not going to get > what the top bidder is willing to bid. It only stands to reason that if the > second place bidder stops bidding, the top bidder will also...even if they > were willing to go ten, twenty, fifty thousand dollars more. The last two > bidders would have to be only $500.00 apart in their minds to get to what > the top bidder was willing to bid. This has been my personal experience on > eBay. I have been willing to pay more (sometimes quite a bit more)...but > didn't have to because the other bidders dropped out early. > > Also the marketing can bring very wide variations in the final result. I > have seen wildly different ending prices on the exact same items (and of > course houses are more subjective and no two properties are identical). I > think much of the difference was in how it was presented (marketed). Of > course it's also the luck of the draw about who happens to be looking when > you are selling, how savvy they are and how willing they are to wait for > something else to come along. > > ~Linda Gray > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:03 AM, SKY HIGH wrote: > > Once the bidding begins. They will bid up to get the home & it will not > matter how low others started bidding. You have to understand that this has > worked for others & it could work for you. I agree with Kyle, there could > be several factors that caused the disappointing results. You have to be > clear on what it takes & avoid many common mistakes that will decrease > chances of getting the buyers you need. If you can convince people that the > home will be sold Sunday night & your marketing is strong then those owner > occupant buyers will do anything possible to get the home. > > Carlos A. Chica Investor, Real Estate Solutions Co. > 646-552-0107 > > Coming Soon: > > www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com > > "It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible" > > - Walt Disney > > On May 19, 2009, at 9:41 AM, M A wrote: > > or... when you offer your house at crazy low price, the real buyers who > actually fell in love with your house, get a quick eduction from low ballers > that come to the auction and refuse to pay fair market value, because they > don't want to look stupid and overbid seeing that the low ballers are > offering little to nothing. > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 5/19/09, SKY HIGH * wrote: > > > From: SKY HIGH > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] not so fast > To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" < > 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 1:30 PM > > The key is to understand that there may always be Investors bidding > hoping to get a deal. It's natural because the "low ballers" are searching > for an exceptional deal. But you need to be concerned with the two or three > buyers that fall in love with the property & will pay as close to market > value as you can get them to through the bidding process. If you only are > getting buyers who aren't motivated enough to pay market value then it's > very possible that the marketing could use some work. > The actual market value is only determined by the most recent comparable > sales. That means real buyers have recently paid those prices forsimilar > properties. If you only get low offers that means your either unclear about > curret market value or the buyers were trying to buy under market value. > Carlos A. Chica Sky High Planning, Inc. > 7380 Sand Lake Rd. #500 > Orlando, FL 32819 > Office: (407) 352-3220 > Fax: (407) 738-4816 > Cell: (646) 552-0107 > skyhighplanning at gmail.com > > Coming Soon: > > www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com > > "It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible" > > - Walt Disney > > On May 19, 2009, at 9:16 AM, M A < > macycles at yahoo.com> wrote: > > you know "fair market value" and "true market value" are all a matter > of semantics actually. the honest reason WHY people are attracted to the > system is because they are looking for "FAIR" market value, at least that > was my reason for it. i don't believe there is such a thing as true market > value per se. you get a bunch of low ballers together, and they will NOT > bid up to fair market value, only true market value for them, and thats > never true because its not true for all parties concerned, thats why the > sellers are disspointed. so you have to question, wether the auction system > attracts low ballers and not real buyers... its kind of like what you put > out in the world, if you are going to dress up like a 2 penny whore but > expect to be paid a few dollars, you are going to attract a customer who is > going to expect to pay you 2 pennies not a few dollars. > > --- On *Tue, 5/19/09, Kyle Cascioli < > real.estate.professor at hotmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: Kyle Cascioli < > real.estate.professor at hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] not so fast > To: > 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 12:57 PM > > Market's are not fair. I don't believe Bill uses the term "fair > market value." > > If you have a successful pre-5 Day Sale marketing campaign and a sufficient > base of owner-buyer bidders you will get "true market" offers. > > Auctioning is nothing new. Our entire economy is based on the principle. > This is why we auction of T-Bills. > > We would all need to know more about the specifics of your property, > market, sub-market, etc., to know why you achieved the result that you did. > > We want your feedback, understand your disappointment, but question your > belief that the method doesn't work. It does work. It just didn't work for > you given your expectation on a given day. Why do you think it didn't work > for you that day? > > Best, > > Kyle Cascioli > > www.AuctionBySeller.com > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 05:49:15 -0700 > From: > macycles at yahoo.com > To: > 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Subject: [5-DayForum] not so fast > > that does not make sense what you said Kyle, of course it generated an > offer. i can get an offer any day on my property at 30% below market, i > don't need to do an auction for that. the 5 day auction says that at the end > you should at least generate fare market value, that's the whole point of > its proclaimed success, and thats why people are attracted to it, by the > promise of generating a fair market value. There is nothing successful > about being low balled and now being pressured into selling it at that > price, like this woman below was describing. if that happened to me after > all the effort and work of organizing an auction, i would as well be pretty > disspointed. but then again, may be for you Kyle, selling at a low ball > price is a success, i just can't see it how its a success for most people. > > --- On *Tue, 5/19/09, Kyle Cascioli < > real.estate.professor at hotmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: Kyle Cascioli < > real.estate.professor at hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Did the Open House this weekend and bidding > To: > > 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 12:29 PM > > If the process generated an offer where none was generated before, then by > definition "it worked." > > The market spoke to you , but you didn;t like what it had to say. You are > not alone. > > Best luck moving forward. > > Kyle Cascioli > > www.AuctionBySeller.com > > > Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 22:31:43 -0400 > > From: > patrycja at MIT.EDU > > To: > > 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > Subject: [5-DayForum] Did the Open House this weekend and bidding > > > > Hi, > > > > My husband and I did everything by the book. We live and own a condo in > > Cambridge, MA which is still a good market. Got over 25 calls and over 60 > > different people in 2 days. We just finished the bidding at 280K which is > way > > below the market price for a condo in Cambridge of the kind we are > selling - > > the lowest one can expect for this is 320K, the average is like $350K. > Most > > people who came in were looking for a bargain, they were smart but they > just > > could not get over the enormous price difference jump from 174,500 which > we > > listed it at. There is something wrong here when the top bidder is a real > > estate agent who is now pressuring us to sell it to him b/c he knows it > is way > > under market value. > > > > The method does not work and it needs serious tweaks. It was an > enormously > > draining experience for us. > > > > Please keep this in mind. > > Patricia and Dmitry > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 5-DayForum mailing list > > 5-DayForum at mailman..howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > ------------------------------ > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. 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Renee Preston ********** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE*************** This message contains information that may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee or authorized to receive for the addressee, you may not use, copy or disclose the message or any information contained in the message to anyone. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply and delete the message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/393da144/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Wed Jul 22 12:32:01 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:32:01 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Success Stories Message-ID: I can't tell you what you need to hear. And this method is NOT for every home in every market. Bill, will disagree, but this is his livelihood. Janet In a message dated 7/22/2009 10:36:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rpreston at cnbtx.com writes: I have been reading through the forum for a while now looking for examples of success stories with this method. I am planning my sale for the 3rd week of August. I was completely gung ho on this idea but the more I read the forums, the more scared I get. I have read example after example of people getting bids but nowhere near what they expected. I have also read stories of no bids at all. And there have been some where people consider it a success because they got ?close? to what they expected. But I can?t find one story where someone was really ?happy? with the outcome. Can someone share a few so I can start to feel good about this again? Thanks! Renee Preston ********** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE*************** This message contains information that may be confidential and privileged. 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/6c0b2b33/attachment.html From tara at dastrup.com Wed Jul 22 14:24:52 2009 From: tara at dastrup.com (Tara Dastrup) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:24:52 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] Rules List In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BB4@phoo.dastrup.com> If someone hasn't done it already, here is is ( I erased the stuff he put in about his settlement agent and i can't find the original): BIDDING METHOD & RULES 1. The sale is not binding on the buyers or sellers until a contract is signed. All bids can be withdrawn at any time. 2. Only people who have inspected our home will be allowed to bid on it. 3. To enter the Round-Robin bidding you must leave a bid prior to 8:00p.m. Sunday night 4. Your bid can be any amount. One dollar is sufficient. 5. You must leave a phone number where you can be reached Sunday Night at 8:00p.m. with your initial bid. 6. Initial bids can be telephoned in and or changed any time before 8:00p.m. Sunday night. 7. Sunday night at 8:00p.m. I will call all bidders, by order from highest to lowest bid, notifying them of the current high bid and allow each bidder to advance the bid by a minimum of $500 over the current high bid. If the bidder declines to advance the bid further at that time, they are withdrawn from the process. 8. Our Home will be sold to the highest bidder on Sunday night. 9. We do not protect brokers....(for real estate agents) 10.Offers of rent/lease to own are not acceptable. The sale must be complete. 11. The sale is not binding on the buyers or sellers until a contract is signed. All bids can be withdrawn at any time and the seller is not obligated to take the highest bid. ________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy [tammytarr at sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:18 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Rules List Hey there all, I just read recently someone's rules list that they posted. For the life of me I cannot find that list. Would someone mind re-posting that please? Thanks a bunch, Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/f67421ae/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Wed Jul 22 15:09:02 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:09:02 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Rules List Message-ID: This is the exact example from the web site. There are copies of everything there that you need with the exception of your inspection. Bidding Method 123 Old Pond Road Anytown, USA (608) 555-3138 You at YourEmailAddress.com ? Only buyers who have seen the house may bid. ? Bids may be left at any level, at any time prior to 8:00 pm Sunday Evening. ? No one can enter the bidding after 8:00 pm Sunday Evening. ? The bidding will be open. We will tell anyone the status of the bids at any time. ? Our home will be sold to the highest qualifying bidder in round-robin bidding Sunday night. ? The highest bidder prior to the round-robin bidding will have the opportunity to make the first bid when the final bidding begins. Then the next highest bidder will get the second call, and so on down the list. ? Every bidder will have the opportunity to top the high bid until the highest bidder is established ? If there is more than 1 bid at the same level, the earliest bid will be honored. ? Bids must be at least $500 apart. ($149,500/$150,000/$150,500 -- Etc.) ? The highest bidder will be offered the home at the bid price. Open for Inspection 10 to 5 Saturday and Sunday Will Be Sold to the High Bidder Sunday Night Copyright 2007 Bill Effros--How to Sell Your Home in 5 Days In a message dated 7/22/2009 1:28:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tara at dastrup.com writes: If someone hasn't done it already, here is is ( I erased the stuff he put in about his settlement agent and i can't find the original): BIDDING METHOD & RULES 1. The sale is not binding on the buyers or sellers until a contract is signed. All bids can be withdrawn at any time. 2. Only people who have inspected our home will be allowed to bid on it. 3. To enter the Round-Robin bidding you must leave a bid prior to 8:00p.m. Sunday night 4. Your bid can be any amount. One dollar is sufficient. 5. You must leave a phone number where you can be reached Sunday Night at 8:00p.m. with your initial bid. 6. Initial bids can be telephoned in and or changed any time before 8:00p.m. Sunday night. 7. Sunday night at 8:00p.m. I will call all bidders, by order from highest to lowest bid, notifying them of the current high bid and allow each bidder to advance the bid by a minimum of $500 over the current high bid. If the bidder declines to advance the bid further at that time, they are withdrawn from the process. 8. Our Home will be sold to the highest bidder on Sunday night. 9. We do not protect brokers....(for real estate agents) 10.Offers of rent/lease to own are not acceptable. The sale must be complete. 11. The sale is not binding on the buyers or sellers until a contract is signed. All bids can be withdrawn at any time and the seller is not obligated to take the highest bid. ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy [tammytarr at sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:18 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Rules List Hey there all, I just read recently someone's rules list that they posted. For the life of me I cannot find that list. Would someone mind re-posting that please? Thanks a bunch, Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************Dell Deals: Treat yourself to a sweet deal on popular laptops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223096155x1201715982/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D6) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/1b9f3e70/attachment.html From dsmtj at bresnan.net Wed Jul 22 16:18:42 2009 From: dsmtj at bresnan.net (sara Bailey) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:18:42 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please Message-ID: Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and practice. I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I say if they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it appraised or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" Thanks- Sara --- the forwarded message follows --- -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: j crafor Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] assistance please Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:52:00 +0000 Size: 10009 Url: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/6c58cc44/attachment.mht From Janetislight at aol.com Wed Jul 22 16:23:12 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please Message-ID: I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. Janet In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and practice. I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I say if they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it appraised or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" Thanks- Sara --- the forwarded message follows --- Return-Path: <5-dayforum-bounces+dsmtj=bresnan.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Received: from [69.145.248.1] (HELO blnmtdc1svavs) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 1376641255 for dsmtj at bresnan.net; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:54:17 -0600 Return-Path: <5-dayforum-bounces+dsmtj=bresnan.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> X-CM-Legit: Yes X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=fDyTth49A2UA:10 a=OwHHjOh6PQEA:10 a=qrqso71NAAAA:8 a=97eYG3siAAAA:8 a=DPdd6oeZAAAA:8 a=aVOj56O69goJ0L4IEc8A:9 a=jbwLYDBUZ1L1j-gW_ssA:7 a=hgO5Hr6UIMM9U8qz4rjz6QmZyEYA:4 a=_x6GTltEcL4A:10 a=h1EU0YiFzB4A:10 a=J9b65OMsQ0U5Db-Z:21 a=2ByDJjLakpPl5LXn:21 a=pnzqxn94ELqb0F0PTcAA:9 a=AWHF4hI3UZuORWhOqmYA:7 a=vytKOZTH_FfHtooMjR7vcgspHV0A:4 a=R-w9uWl0CPpJNeqD:21 a=UaWjVRZW9lgb6X-p:21 a=Ll3zEmMdZIEUDodbbyMA:9 a=pWpTefll_KoxqP9aeQXQpfT7OBQA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [63.216.184.10] ([63.216.184.10:55766] helo=intel1.peregrinehw.com) by blnmtdc1svavs.pmx0.bresnan.net (envelope-from <5-dayforum-bounces+dsmtj=bresnan.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r()) with ESMTP id 27/85-06922-80A176A4; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:54:16 +0000 Received: from intel1.peregrinehw.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by intel1.peregrinehw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n6MDrr7q024095 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:54:13 -0400 Received: from snt0-omc3-s1.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc3-s1.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.140]) by intel1.peregrinehw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n6MDq0fR022405 for <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com>; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:52:02 -0400 Received: from SNT116-W29 ([65.55.90.137]) by snt0-omc3-s1.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:52:00 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [72.200.112.56] From: j crafor To: "5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:52:00 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2009 13:52:00.0954 (UTC) FILETIME=[964DD1A0:01CA0AD3] X-KAM-Reverse: Passed - Reverse DNS of snt0-omc3-s1.snt0.hotmail.com/65.55.90.140 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=7.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE,KAM_RPTR_PASSED,SPF_PASS version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 63.216.184.10 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 63.216.184.6 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] assistance please X-BeenThere: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> List-Id: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum.mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0232157802==" Sender: 5-dayforum-bounces+dsmtj=bresnan.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Errors-To: 5-dayforum-bounces+dsmtj=bresnan.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com X-Pop-Before-SMTP-Auth: 127.0.0.1 X-KAM-Reverse-DEBUG: n6MDrr7q024095: Exempt - 127.0.0.1 is an Authorized Sender What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to have another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to turn in. I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a question, I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that the title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific questions, bring them here. As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was waiting THAT MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the buyer wants to do, at the least. JCrafor > From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 > Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please > > I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything ready. The > one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid Sunday > night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I contacted a > Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good but I am > a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. > Suggestions? > > Sara > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ____________________________________ Windows Live? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/5c08d380/attachment.html From dsmtj at bresnan.net Wed Jul 22 16:45:53 2009 From: dsmtj at bresnan.net (sara Bailey) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:53 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: thank you Janet. I have not had the house appraised and I can use the assessed value, that is a great idea. Next question: What phrasing would be best used to answer when they ask for the address. I feel like I sound unrehersed when I try to answer this question. I do give them somewhat close cross streets so they know about where it is. Sara On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT Janetislight at aol.com wrote: > I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed > value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. > > Janet > > > In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: > > Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and practice. > > I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I > say if > they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it > appraised > or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" > Thanks- Sara > > previous message: > > > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the > buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to have > another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to turn >in. > > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a question, > I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that the > title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few > questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific >questions, bring > them here. > > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was waiting >THAT > MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me > if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) > > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop > or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest > money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and > turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. > I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the > buyer wants to do, at the least. > > JCrafor >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 >> Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please >> >> I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything > ready. The >> one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid > Sunday >> night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I > contacted a >> Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good > but I am >> a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. >> Suggestions? >> >> Sara >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > ____________________________________ > Windows Live? 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This was one thing that I didn't do as the book stated. But pretty much everyone that called was at the open house, plus tons who didn't call. So, I would say it's up to you. By house was amazing both inside and out, so the outside intrigued those that drove by and probably peeked in the windows. New paint, new landscaping, new numbers on the side of the house, new mailbox.... the outside was a draw, not a deterrent and was located in a beautiful neighborhood. I don't know if this helps you or not. Here's rooting for you!!!!!! Janet In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:47:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: thank you Janet. I have not had the house appraised and I can use the assessed value, that is a great idea. Next question: What phrasing would be best used to answer when they ask for the address. I feel like I sound unrehersed when I try to answer this question. I do give them somewhat close cross streets so they know about where it is. Sara On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT Janetislight at aol.com wrote: > I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed > value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. > > Janet > > > In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: > > Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and practice. > > I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I > say if > they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it > appraised > or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" > Thanks- Sara > > previous message: > > > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the > buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to have > another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to turn >in. > > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a question, > I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that the > title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few > questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific >questions, bring > them here. > > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was waiting >THAT > MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me > if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) > > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop > or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest > money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and > turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. > I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the > buyer wants to do, at the least. > > JCrafor >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 >> Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please >> >> I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything > ready. The >> one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid > Sunday >> night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I > contacted a >> Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good > but I am >> a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. >> Suggestions? >> >> Sara >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > ____________________________________ > Windows Live? 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223096155x1201715982/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D6) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/652a0995/attachment.html From pnj442 at bresnan.net Wed Jul 22 18:02:41 2009 From: pnj442 at bresnan.net (Peter) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:02:41 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] The add is fraudulent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F313184AA2D4CFC917F8757F5146DDD@Peter> ----- Original Message ----- From: j crafor To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] The add is fraudulent I'm susre more people will respond, but, basically I think He's right-if he's talking about a price you have listed on the mls, and people here suggest that you remove it from there a few days before. On your 5day sale ads, make it clear to people the house will be sold via round robin bidding and you fully expect that people will bid more than that after they see it. That amount is to get attention. Tell them there is an undisclosed minimum reserve (if your state law allows it--look up that statute) Some people will ask what the minimum reserve is, I just answer, it's undisclosed. If they push, "Sorry, I'm not telling anyone, it's undisclosed." Depends partly on your state law. Look up your state statute regarding auctions. In my state, an auction has an automatic minimum reserve unless it's specifically stated that it does not. I change my wording from "will be sold" to "will be offered" I don't use highest bidder, I use Best bidder I also generally indicate there is a minimum reserve. and I have on just about every sheet of info that neighte the buyer or the seller is obligated until the final signatures are written, that either can withdraw at any point. I make it clear-in fact, "the seller may withdraw the house at any time until he announces the completion of the sale. A bidder may retract his bid until the seller's announcement of completion of the sale is written at the bottom of the bidding method sheets, the descriptions, and the rules sheets in a separate paragraph. Mine is on the mls at a price, and I have in my sale ads, bidding starts at (half) that, just in case my lister does not get it removed in time. Best wishes. JCrafor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: rpagel at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:53:53 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] The add is fraudulent Hi, I talked with a local attorney about running the 5-day add and he's telling me that it's fraudulent. His comment is that you never intend to sell the house for the amount listed and could be sued if you don't sell it if that your only offer or could be sued anyway just for running the add if it wasn't your intention. Any body else hear this? Now I feel like I can't run the add or need to change it to make it clear there is a minimum. Suggestions or thoughts? Thanks Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. Having done a few of these, I have gotten around the potential problems by stating that the bids will start at $x dollars. Granted that this is a departure from what Bill advocates but I have found that it works. With that in mind, make sure that if you are prepared to sell the property at the X dollar amount. If you can, make the starting bid the bare minimum you can take for the property and be realistic with respect to the bare minimum. Best Peter Junggren -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/6516b259/attachment.html From ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 22 22:03:14 2009 From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca (Parcel Property Investments) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:03:14 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Rules List In-Reply-To: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BB4@phoo.dastrup.com> References: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BB4@phoo.dastrup.com> Message-ID: Thank you!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Tara Dastrup To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Rules List If someone hasn't done it already, here is is ( I erased the stuff he put in about his settlement agent and i can't find the original): BIDDING METHOD & RULES 1. The sale is not binding on the buyers or sellers until a contract is signed. All bids can be withdrawn at any time. 2. Only people who have inspected our home will be allowed to bid on it. 3. To enter the Round-Robin bidding you must leave a bid prior to 8:00p.m. Sunday night 4. Your bid can be any amount. One dollar is sufficient. 5. You must leave a phone number where you can be reached Sunday Night at 8:00p.m. with your initial bid. 6. Initial bids can be telephoned in and or changed any time before 8:00p.m. Sunday night. 7. Sunday night at 8:00p.m. I will call all bidders, by order from highest to lowest bid, notifying them of the current high bid and allow each bidder to advance the bid by a minimum of $500 over the current high bid. If the bidder declines to advance the bid further at that time, they are withdrawn from the process. 8. Our Home will be sold to the highest bidder on Sunday night. 9. We do not protect brokers....(for real estate agents) 10.Offers of rent/lease to own are not acceptable. The sale must be complete. 11. The sale is not binding on the buyers or sellers until a contract is signed. All bids can be withdrawn at any time and the seller is not obligated to take the highest bid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy [tammytarr at sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:18 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Rules List Hey there all, I just read recently someone's rules list that they posted. For the life of me I cannot find that list. Would someone mind re-posting that please? Thanks a bunch, Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/84590883/attachment.html From ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 22 22:40:33 2009 From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca (Parcel Property Investments) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:40:33 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Purchase Conditions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does anyone have any experience with what kind of purchase conditions would be best with regards to financing, sale of currently owned house, inspection? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/1ae73302/attachment.html From ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 22 22:43:57 2009 From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca (Parcel Property Investments) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:43:57 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] My 5-day Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: DAY 2 -there have been almost 60 people who have called/emailed so far -many responding very positively -feedback is that "everyone" I mailed flyers to is "talking it up" in their neighbourhoods...I'm hearing from more than one source that people are telling/emailing/phoning people they know and word is getting out. Neighbours are talking to one another about the flyers they got, it's getting everyone hyped up -flyers so far definitely the best method..I've gotten the best response from them. (I spend about $1000 CDN having Canada Post "target mail" 5,000 flyers.) I'm getting very excited!!! 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Everyone that comes is bargain shopping. ----- Original Message ----- From: Parcel Property Investments To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] My 5-day Sale DAY 2 -there have been almost 60 people who have called/emailed so far -many responding very positively -feedback is that "everyone" I mailed flyers to is "talking it up" in their neighbourhoods...I'm hearing from more than one source that people are telling/emailing/phoning people they know and word is getting out. Neighbours are talking to one another about the flyers they got, it's getting everyone hyped up -flyers so far definitely the best method..I've gotten the best response from them. (I spend about $1000 CDN having Canada Post "target mail" 5,000 flyers.) I'm getting very excited!!! Tammy Barrie, Ontario CANADA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090722/87a46b60/attachment.html From tomhoffman at live.com Thu Jul 23 00:21:39 2009 From: tomhoffman at live.com (Tom Hoffman) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:21:39 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] The add is fraudulent In-Reply-To: <5F313184AA2D4CFC917F8757F5146DDD@Peter> References: <5F313184AA2D4CFC917F8757F5146DDD@Peter> Message-ID: If you are going to list in the MLS put the full retail price. Change the word "Sold" to "Offered". "Property will be offered Sunday night to the HIghest Bidder". Run that by your attorney and if he/she doesn't like it find another attorney who knows real estate law. Curious to know what state you are in. Good Luck, Tom Hoffman- Broker/Owner Top Priority Realty, LLC Licensed in Colorado From: pnj442 at bresnan.net To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:02:41 -0600 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] The add is fraudulent ----- Original Message ----- From: j crafor To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] The add is fraudulent I'm susre more people will respond, but, basically I think He's right-if he's talking about a price you have listed on the mls, and people here suggest that you remove it from there a few days before. On your 5day sale ads, make it clear to people the house will be sold via round robin bidding and you fully expect that people will bid more than that after they see it. That amount is to get attention. Tell them there is an undisclosed minimum reserve (if your state law allows it--look up that statute) Some people will ask what the minimum reserve is, I just answer, it's undisclosed. If they push, "Sorry, I'm not telling anyone, it's undisclosed." Depends partly on your state law. Look up your state statute regarding auctions. In my state, an auction has an automatic minimum reserve unless it's specifically stated that it does not. I change my wording from "will be sold" to "will be offered" I don't use highest bidder, I use Best bidder I also generally indicate there is a minimum reserve. and I have on just about every sheet of info that neighte the buyer or the seller is obligated until the final signatures are written, that either can withdraw at any point. I make it clear-in fact, "the seller may withdraw the house at any time until he announces the completion of the sale. A bidder may retract his bid until the seller's announcement of completion of the sale is written at the bottom of the bidding method sheets, the descriptions, and the rules sheets in a separate paragraph. Mine is on the mls at a price, and I have in my sale ads, bidding starts at (half) that, just in case my lister does not get it removed in time. Best wishes. JCrafor From: rpagel at hotmail.com To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:53:53 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] The add is fraudulent Hi, I talked with a local attorney about running the 5-day add and he's telling me that it's fraudulent. His comment is that you never intend to sell the house for the amount listed and could be sued if you don't sell it if that your only offer or could be sued anyway just for running the add if it wasn't your intention. Any body else hear this? Now I feel like I can't run the add or need to change it to make it clear there is a minimum. Suggestions or thoughts? Thanks Rich Windows Live? Hotmail?: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. Having done a few of these, I have gotten around the potential problems by stating that the bids will start at $x dollars. Granted that this is a departure from what Bill advocates but I have found that it works. With that in mind, make sure that if you are prepared to sell the property at the X dollar amount. If you can, make the starting bid the bare minimum you can take for the property and be realistic with respect to the bare minimum. Best Peter Junggren _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I feel okay with conditional upon financing and inspection, but I want to move quickly so I don't want to wait for the sale of another house. Or perhaps I should only accept unconditional offers. Any insights? Tammy Barrie, Ontario CANADA _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************Dell Deals: Treat yourself to a sweet deal on popular laptops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223100673x1201716527/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D7) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(I spend about $1000 CDN having Canada Post "target mail" 5,000 flyers.) I'm getting very excited!!! Tammy Barrie, Ontario CANADA _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************Dell Deals: Treat yourself to a sweet deal on popular laptops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223100673x1201716527/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D7) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090723/da1ec8db/attachment.html From jcrafor at hotmail.com Thu Jul 23 10:17:01 2009 From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:17:01 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A major goal is to get as many people TO the house at the same time to generate interest and bids. If they can drive by on wednesday, if not interested, they won't show up on the days when you want as many people there at the same time as possible. YOu want NUMBERS. THAT's why you list the house at half price--to get NUMBERS. If everybody looks at it before the inspection time, it's possible only 2-3 will return to bid. Follow the book. Take contact information, tell them you'll call or email Friday night or Sat AM with the address and driving directions. When I did it, no one had a problem. The fact that there are several people looking at it at the same time is crucial. JCrafor > From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:53 -0600 > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please > > thank you Janet. I have not had the house appraised and I can use the assessed > value, that is a great idea. > Next question: What phrasing would be best used to answer when they ask for > the address. I feel like I sound unrehersed when I try to answer this > question. I do give them somewhat close cross streets so they know about where > it is. > Sara > > > On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT > Janetislight at aol.com wrote: > > I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed > > value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. > > > > Janet > > > > > > In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: > > > > Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and practice. > > > > I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I > > say if > > they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it > > appraised > > or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" > > Thanks- Sara > > > > > > > > > previous message: > > > > > > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the > > buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to have > > another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to turn > >in. > > > > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a question, > > I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that the > > title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few > > questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific > >questions, bring > > them here. > > > > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was > > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was waiting > >THAT > > MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me > > if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) > > > > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop > > or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest > > money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and > > turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. > > I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the > > buyer wants to do, at the least. > > > > JCrafor > >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 > >> Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please > >> > >> I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything > > ready. The > >> one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid > > Sunday > >> night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I > > contacted a > >> Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good > > but I am > >> a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. > >> Suggestions? > >> > >> Sara > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 5-DayForum mailing list > >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > > > ____________________________________ > > Windows Live? 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JCrafor From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:40:33 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Purchase Conditions Does anyone have any experience with what kind of purchase conditions would be best with regards to financing, sale of currently owned house, inspection? I feel okay with conditional upon financing and inspection, but I want to move quickly so I don't want to wait for the sale of another house. Or perhaps I should only accept unconditional offers. Any insights? Tammy Barrie, Ontario CANADA _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090723/cc89a9bf/attachment.html From dsmtj at bresnan.net Thu Jul 23 11:38:33 2009 From: dsmtj at bresnan.net (sara Bailey) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:38:33 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for the info. I am not giving the callers the address, I am following the book. I understand the importance of NUMBERS. What my question was about phrasing when telling them I am not giving the address until Friday night. It just sounded abrupt the first time I answered the question and was looking for suggestions for a softer answer for callers. Believe me I want to follow the book exactly- I want this to work and sell my house in these 5 days. Sara On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:17:01 +0000 j crafor wrote: > > A major goal is to get as many people TO the house at the same time to >generate interest and bids. If they can drive by on wednesday, if not >interested, they won't show up on the days when you want as many people there >at the same time as possible. YOu want NUMBERS. THAT's why you list the house >at half price--to get NUMBERS. > > If everybody looks at it before the inspection time, it's possible only 2-3 >will return to bid. > > > >Follow the book. Take contact information, tell them you'll call or email >Friday night or Sat AM with the address and driving directions. When I did >it, no one had a problem. The fact that there are several people looking at >it at the same time is crucial. > > JCrafor > >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:53 -0600 >> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please >> >> thank you Janet. I have not had the house appraised and I can use the >>assessed >> value, that is a great idea. >> Next question: What phrasing would be best used to answer when they ask for >> the address. I feel like I sound unrehersed when I try to answer this >> question. I do give them somewhat close cross streets so they know about >>where >> it is. >> Sara >> >> >> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT >> Janetislight at aol.com wrote: >> > I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed >> > value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. >> > >> > Janet >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >> > dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: >> > >> > Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and >>practice. >> > >> > I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I >> > say if >> > they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it >> > appraised >> > or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" >> > Thanks- Sara >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> previous message: >> > >> > >> > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the >> > buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to have >> > another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to turn >> >in. >> > >> > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a question, >> > I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that the >> > title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few >> > questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific >> >questions, bring >> > them here. >> > >> > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was >> > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was >>waiting >> >THAT >> > MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me >> > if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) >> > >> > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop >> > or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest >> > money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and >> > turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. >> > I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the >> > buyer wants to do, at the least. >> > >> > JCrafor >> >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net >> >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 >> >> Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please >> >> >> >> I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything >> > ready. The >> >> one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid >> > Sunday >> >> night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I >> > contacted a >> >> Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good >> > but I am >> >> a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. >> >> Suggestions? >> >> >> >> Sara >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> >> >> > >>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________ >> > Windows Live? 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Hotmail?: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. >Check it out. > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports From jcrafor at hotmail.com Thu Jul 23 13:25:46 2009 From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:25:46 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You're right, it can sound abrupt. Preface it with something like, You know, I'm using the Five Day Sale Method, and following the directions to the best of my ability. They say to not give out the address or directions to the house until Friday night or Saturday, I hope you understand. So, let me read your phone number/email address back to you to be sure I have it correct." I called/emailed late enough Friday that it was about dark, too dark to see the place well. On Sat, they're just as likely to wait for the sale time to go, as before. That way they get to see the inside, too, and their curiosity will get the best of them. JCrafor > From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:38:33 -0600 > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please > > Thank you for the info. I am not giving the callers the address, I am > following the book. I understand the importance of NUMBERS. What my question > was about phrasing when telling them I am not giving the address until Friday > night. It just sounded abrupt the first time I answered the question and was > looking for suggestions for a softer answer for callers. > Believe me I want to follow the book exactly- I want this to work and sell my > house in these 5 days. > > Sara > > > On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:17:01 +0000 > j crafor wrote: > > > > A major goal is to get as many people TO the house at the same time to > >generate interest and bids. If they can drive by on wednesday, if not > >interested, they won't show up on the days when you want as many people there > >at the same time as possible. YOu want NUMBERS. THAT's why you list the house > >at half price--to get NUMBERS. > > > > If everybody looks at it before the inspection time, it's possible only 2-3 > >will return to bid. > > > > > > > >Follow the book. Take contact information, tell them you'll call or email > >Friday night or Sat AM with the address and driving directions. When I did > >it, no one had a problem. The fact that there are several people looking at > >it at the same time is crucial. > > > > JCrafor > > > >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:53 -0600 > >> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please > >> > >> thank you Janet. I have not had the house appraised and I can use the > >>assessed > >> value, that is a great idea. > >> Next question: What phrasing would be best used to answer when they ask for > >> the address. I feel like I sound unrehersed when I try to answer this > >> question. I do give them somewhat close cross streets so they know about > >>where > >> it is. > >> Sara > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT > >> Janetislight at aol.com wrote: > >> > I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed > >> > value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. > >> > > >> > Janet > >> > > >> > > >> > In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > >> > dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: > >> > > >> > Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and > >>practice. > >> > > >> > I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I > >> > say if > >> > they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it > >> > appraised > >> > or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" > >> > Thanks- Sara > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> previous message: > >> > > >> > > >> > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the > >> > buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to have > >> > another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to turn > >> >in. > >> > > >> > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a question, > >> > I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that the > >> > title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few > >> > questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific > >> >questions, bring > >> > them here. > >> > > >> > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was > >> > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was > >>waiting > >> >THAT > >> > MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me > >> > if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) > >> > > >> > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop > >> > or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest > >> > money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and > >> > turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. > >> > I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the > >> > buyer wants to do, at the least. > >> > > >> > JCrafor > >> >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > >> >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 > >> >> Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please > >> >> > >> >> I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything > >> > ready. The > >> >> one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid > >> > Sunday > >> >> night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I > >> > contacted a > >> >> Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good > >> > but I am > >> >> a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. > >> >> Suggestions? > >> >> > >> >> Sara > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> 5-DayForum mailing list > >> >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> >> > >> > > >>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > >> > > >> > > >> > ____________________________________ > >> > Windows Live? 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It just sounded abrupt the first time I answered the question and was looking for suggestions for a softer answer for callers. Believe me I want to follow the book exactly- I want this to work and sell my house in these 5 days. Sara On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:17:01 +0000 j crafor wrote: > > A major goal is to get as many people TO the house at the same time to >generate interest and bids. If they can drive by on wednesday, if not >interested, they won't show up on the days when you want as many people there >at the same time as possible. YOu want NUMBERS. THAT's why you list the house >at half price--to get NUMBERS. > > If everybody looks at it before the inspection time, it's possible only 2-3 >will return to bid. > > > >Follow the book. Take contact information, tell them you'll call or email >Friday night or Sat AM with the address and driving directions. When I did >it, no one had a problem. The fact that there are several people looking at >it at the same time is crucial. > > JCrafor > >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:53 -0600 >> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please >> >> thank you Janet. I have not had the house appraised and I can use the >>assessed >> value, that is a great idea. >> Next question: What phrasing would be best used to answer when they ask for >> the address. I feel like I sound unrehersed when I try to answer this >> question. I do give them somewhat close cross streets so they know about >>where >> it is. >> Sara >> >> >> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT >> Janetislight at aol.com wrote: >> > I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed >> > value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. >> > >> > Janet >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >> > dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: >> > >> > Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and >>practice. >> > >> > I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I >> > say if >> > they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it >> > appraised >> > or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" >> > Thanks- Sara >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> previous message: >> > >> > >> > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the >> > buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to have >> > another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to turn >> >in. >> > >> > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a question, >> > I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that the >> > title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few >> > questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific >> >questions, bring >> > them here. >> > >> > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was >> > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was >>waiting >> >THAT >> > MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me >> > if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) >> > >> > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop >> > or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest >> > money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and >> > turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. >> > I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the >> > buyer wants to do, at the least. >> > >> > JCrafor >> >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net >> >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 >> >> Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please >> >> >> >> I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything >> > ready. The >> >> one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid >> > Sunday >> >> night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I >> > contacted a >> >> Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good >> > but I am >> >> a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. >> >> Suggestions? >> >> >> >> Sara >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> >> >> > >>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforu m >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________ >> > Windows Live? 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I understand the importance of NUMBERS. What my question was about phrasing when telling them I am not giving the address until Friday night. It just sounded abrupt the first time I answered the question and was looking for suggestions for a softer answer for callers. Believe me I want to follow the book exactly- I want this to work and sell my house in these 5 days. Sara On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:17:01 +0000 j crafor wrote: > > A major goal is to get as many people TO the house at the same time to >generate interest and bids. If they can drive by on wednesday, if not >interested, they won't show up on the days when you want as many people >there >at the same time as possible. YOu want NUMBERS. THAT's why you list the >house >at half price--to get NUMBERS. > > If everybody looks at it before the inspection time, it's possible only > 2-3 >will return to bid. > > > >Follow the book. Take contact information, tell them you'll call or email >Friday night or Sat AM with the address and driving directions. When I did >it, no one had a problem. The fact that there are several people looking at >it at the same time is crucial. > > JCrafor > >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:53 -0600 >> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please >> >> thank you Janet. I have not had the house appraised and I can use the >>assessed >> value, that is a great idea. >> Next question: What phrasing would be best used to answer when they ask >> for >> the address. I feel like I sound unrehersed when I try to answer this >> question. I do give them somewhat close cross streets so they know about >>where >> it is. >> Sara >> >> >> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT >> Janetislight at aol.com wrote: >> > I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed >> > value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. >> > >> > Janet >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >> > dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: >> > >> > Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and >>practice. >> > >> > I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I >> > say if >> > they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it >> > appraised >> > or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" >> > Thanks- Sara >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> previous message: >> > >> > >> > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the >> > buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to >> > have >> > another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to >> > turn >> >in. >> > >> > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a >> > question, >> > I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that >> > the >> > title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few >> > questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific >> >questions, bring >> > them here. >> > >> > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was >> > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was >>waiting >> >THAT >> > MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check >> > me >> > if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) >> > >> > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee >> > shop >> > or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the >> > earnest >> > money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company >> > and >> > turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. >> > I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections >> > the >> > buyer wants to do, at the least. >> > >> > JCrafor >> >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net >> >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 >> >> Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please >> >> >> >> I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything >> > ready. The >> >> one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid >> > Sunday >> >> night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I >> > contacted a >> >> Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good >> > but I am >> >> a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms >> >> properly. >> >> Suggestions? >> >> >> >> Sara >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> >> >> > >>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________ >> > Windows Live? 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"we will be deciding on Friday whether or not we have enough > interest to hold the open house, so I will call you then with the address > and all the details..." > I actually gave the address as people called, because I knew I would be busy >Friday night getting ready for Saturday. > Good luck with your sale. Where are you? I hope you will keep us informed. > Rosemarie > > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "sara Bailey" > To: <5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:38 AM > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please > > > Thank you for the info. I am not giving the callers the address, I am > following the book. I understand the importance of NUMBERS. What my question > was about phrasing when telling them I am not giving the address until >Friday > night. It just sounded abrupt the first time I answered the question and was > looking for suggestions for a softer answer for callers. > Believe me I want to follow the book exactly- I want this to work and sell > my > house in these 5 days. > > Sara > > > On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:17:01 +0000 > j crafor wrote: >> >> A major goal is to get as many people TO the house at the same time to >>generate interest and bids. If they can drive by on wednesday, if not >>interested, they won't show up on the days when you want as many people >>there >>at the same time as possible. YOu want NUMBERS. THAT's why you list the >>house >>at half price--to get NUMBERS. >> >> If everybody looks at it before the inspection time, it's possible only >> 2-3 >>will return to bid. >> >> >> >>Follow the book. Take contact information, tell them you'll call or email >>Friday night or Sat AM with the address and driving directions. When I did >>it, no one had a problem. The fact that there are several people looking at >>it at the same time is crucial. >> >> JCrafor >> >>> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net >>> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:53 -0600 >>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please >>> >>> thank you Janet. I have not had the house appraised and I can use the >>>assessed >>> value, that is a great idea. >>> Next question: What phrasing would be best used to answer when they ask >>> for >>> the address. I feel like I sound unrehersed when I try to answer this >>> question. I do give them somewhat close cross streets so they know about >>>where >>> it is. >>> Sara >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT >>> Janetislight at aol.com wrote: >>> > I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed >>> > value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. >>> > >>> > Janet >>> > >>> > >>> > In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >>> > dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: >>> > >>> > Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and >>>practice. >>> > >>> > I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I >>> > say if >>> > they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it >>> > appraised >>> > or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" >>> > Thanks- Sara >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> previous message: >>> > >>> > >>> > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the >>> > buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to >>> > have >>> > another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to >>> > turn >>> >in. >>> > >>> > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a >>> > question, >>> > I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that >>> > the >>> > title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few >>> > questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific >>> >questions, bring >>> > them here. >>> > >>> > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was >>> > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was >>>waiting >>> >THAT >>> > MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check >>> > me >>> > if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) >>> > >>> > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee >>> > shop >>> > or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the >>> > earnest >>> > money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company >>> > and >>> > turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. >>> > I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections >>> > the >>> > buyer wants to do, at the least. >>> > >>> > JCrafor >>> >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net >>> >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 >>> >> Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please >>> >> >>> >> I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything >>> > ready. The >>> >> one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid >>> > Sunday >>> >> night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I >>> > contacted a >>> >> Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good >>> > but I am >>> >> a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms >>> >> properly. >>> >> Suggestions? >>> >> >>> >> Sara >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> >> >>> > >>>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >>> > >>> > >>> > ____________________________________ >>> > Windows Live? 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Central Daylight Time, dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: Thanks for the info. I am on the Western Slope of Colorado and I only have 10 responses so far, not sure that is a good sign. I am busy today finishing cleaning the house so I will sit down tonight and call everyone back with the address. I will keep you up to date. Sara On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:52:54 -0400 "rosemarie-fred" wrote: > How about... "we will be deciding on Friday whether or not we have enough > interest to hold the open house, so I will call you then with the address > and all the details..." > I actually gave the address as people called, because I knew I would be busy >Friday night getting ready for Saturday. > Good luck with your sale. Where are you? I hope you will keep us informed. > Rosemarie > > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "sara Bailey" > To: <5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:38 AM > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please > > > Thank you for the info. I am not giving the callers the address, I am > following the book. I understand the importance of NUMBERS. What my question > was about phrasing when telling them I am not giving the address until >Friday > night. It just sounded abrupt the first time I answered the question and was > looking for suggestions for a softer answer for callers. > Believe me I want to follow the book exactly- I want this to work and sell > my > house in these 5 days. > > Sara > > > On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:17:01 +0000 > j crafor wrote: >> >> A major goal is to get as many people TO the house at the same time to >>generate interest and bids. If they can drive by on wednesday, if not >>interested, they won't show up on the days when you want as many people >>there >>at the same time as possible. YOu want NUMBERS. THAT's why you list the >>house >>at half price--to get NUMBERS. >> >> If everybody looks at it before the inspection time, it's possible only >> 2-3 >>will return to bid. >> >> >> >>Follow the book. Take contact information, tell them you'll call or email >>Friday night or Sat AM with the address and driving directions. When I did >>it, no one had a problem. The fact that there are several people looking at >>it at the same time is crucial. >> >> JCrafor >> >>> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net >>> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:53 -0600 >>> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please >>> >>> thank you Janet. I have not had the house appraised and I can use the >>>assessed >>> value, that is a great idea. >>> Next question: What phrasing would be best used to answer when they ask >>> for >>> the address. I feel like I sound unrehersed when I try to answer this >>> question. I do give them somewhat close cross streets so they know about >>>where >>> it is. >>> Sara >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT >>> Janetislight at aol.com wrote: >>> > I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed >>> > value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. >>> > >>> > Janet >>> > >>> > >>> > In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >>> > dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: >>> > >>> > Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and >>>practice. >>> > >>> > I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I >>> > say if >>> > they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it >>> > appraised >>> > or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" >>> > Thanks- Sara >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> previous message: >>> > >>> > >>> > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the >>> > buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to >>> > have >>> > another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to >>> > turn >>> >in. >>> > >>> > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a >>> > question, >>> > I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that >>> > the >>> > title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few >>> > questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific >>> >questions, bring >>> > them here. >>> > >>> > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was >>> > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was >>>waiting >>> >THAT >>> > MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check >>> > me >>> > if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) >>> > >>> > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee >>> > shop >>> > or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the >>> > earnest >>> > money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company >>> > and >>> > turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. >>> > I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections >>> > the >>> > buyer wants to do, at the least. >>> > >>> > JCrafor >>> >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net >>> >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 >>> >> Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please >>> >> >>> >> I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything >>> > ready. The >>> >> one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid >>> > Sunday >>> >> night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I >>> > contacted a >>> >> Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good >>> > but I am >>> >> a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms >>> >> properly. >>> >> Suggestions? >>> >> >>> >> Sara >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> 5-DayForum mailing list >>> >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>> >> >>> > >>>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayfor um >>> > >>> > >>> > ____________________________________ >>> > Windows Live? 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Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: j crafor To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please You're right, it can sound abrupt. Preface it with something like, You know, I'm using the Five Day Sale Method, and following the directions to the best of my ability. They say to not give out the address or directions to the house until Friday night or Saturday, I hope you understand. So, let me read your phone number/email address back to you to be sure I have it correct." I called/emailed late enough Friday that it was about dark, too dark to see the place well. On Sat, they're just as likely to wait for the sale time to go, as before. That way they get to see the inside, too, and their curiosity will get the best of them. JCrafor > From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:38:33 -0600 > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please > > Thank you for the info. I am not giving the callers the address, I am > following the book. I understand the importance of NUMBERS. What my question > was about phrasing when telling them I am not giving the address until Friday > night. It just sounded abrupt the first time I answered the question and was > looking for suggestions for a softer answer for callers. > Believe me I want to follow the book exactly- I want this to work and sell my > house in these 5 days. > > Sara > > > On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:17:01 +0000 > j crafor wrote: > > > > A major goal is to get as many people TO the house at the same time to > >generate interest and bids. If they can drive by on wednesday, if not > >interested, they won't show up on the days when you want as many people there > >at the same time as possible. YOu want NUMBERS. THAT's why you list the house > >at half price--to get NUMBERS. > > > > If everybody looks at it before the inspection time, it's possible only 2-3 > >will return to bid. > > > > > > > >Follow the book. Take contact information, tell them you'll call or email > >Friday night or Sat AM with the address and driving directions. When I did > >it, no one had a problem. The fact that there are several people looking at > >it at the same time is crucial. > > > > JCrafor > > > >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:53 -0600 > >> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please > >> > >> thank you Janet. I have not had the house appraised and I can use the > >>assessed > >> value, that is a great idea. > >> Next question: What phrasing would be best used to answer when they ask for > >> the address. I feel like I sound unrehersed when I try to answer this > >> question. I do give them somewhat close cross streets so they know about > >>where > >> it is. > >> Sara > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT > >> Janetislight at aol.com wrote: > >> > I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed > >> > value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. > >> > > >> > Janet > >> > > >> > > >> > In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > >> > dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: > >> > > >> > Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and > >>practice. > >> > > >> > I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I > >> > say if > >> > they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it > >> > appraised > >> > or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" > >> > Thanks- Sara > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> previous message: > >> > > >> > > >> > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the > >> > buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to have > >> > another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to turn > >> >in. > >> > > >> > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a question, > >> > I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that the > >> > title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few > >> > questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific > >> >questions, bring > >> > them here. > >> > > >> > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was > >> > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was > >>waiting > >> >THAT > >> > MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me > >> > if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) > >> > > >> > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop > >> > or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest > >> > money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and > >> > turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. > >> > I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the > >> > buyer wants to do, at the least. > >> > > >> > JCrafor > >> >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > >> >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 > >> >> Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please > >> >> > >> >> I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything > >> > ready. The > >> >> one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid > >> > Sunday > >> >> night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer? then what? I > >> > contacted a > >> >> Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good > >> > but I am > >> >> a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. > >> >> Suggestions? > >> >> > >> >> Sara > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> 5-DayForum mailing list > >> >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> >> > >> > > >>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > >> > > >> > > >> > ____________________________________ > >> > Windows Live? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090724/79cccd47/attachment.html From tammytarr at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 24 21:07:58 2009 From: tammytarr at sympatico.ca (Tammy) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:07:58 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-Day Sale so Far In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, This is the end of Day 4 for me. I am exhausted! I was up until 3am doing last-minute stuff. I had 2 others helping me today, and will have 3 tomorrow. I think I had about 50 people come through the house today. I advertised the starting price at $125,000 and my highest bidder so far (if you want to go by the sheet) is now $175,000. I am hoping for tomorrow to be even better because it is Saturday, and hoping that people will be more available to get to my house. I did not want to hold the sale on Sunday because for me it is the Sabbath Day, so I modified Mr. Effros' method (as he suggested be done) to accommodate this - so my Open House is Friday and Saturday. I've had no meanies so far. Hopefully that keeps up! I've had 1 or 2 that seem a little suspicious or leery of the whole thing, but most love my house (it shows very well) and either really like the idea of the method, or have never heard of it and are intrigued. A couple of people said, "I was wondering when this method would start to be used in Canada..." It's definitely not well-known here, although I understand that this is how they do it in Australia. Another visitor today told me New Zealand does it this way too. In keeping unofficial score of what brought the most interest, it would have to be the flyers. I had well over 40 responses by the end of day 2 based on the flyers only. People kept calling all day today too about "the flyer ad" and wanting to know where I live. My internet ads generated some interest but not nearly as much as the flyers. Not only that, but many have told me that "one of [their] friends saw the flyer and knew that I was looking for a place, so they called me.."! I dropped good coin to get those flyers out but it has been by far the most productive of all the methods. I target-marketed the flyers to people of an income range of $60,000 - $200,000 CDN and who are of ages 25-45yrs. I didn't advertise in any local newspapers because I noticed that they didn't have listings for houses for sale, only rentals. That's what I based my decision on, not sure if that is sound, but that is what I decided. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow! Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090724/d7451bf2/attachment.html From jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 01:40:47 2009 From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com (James Fleming) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:40:47 -0700 Subject: [5-DayForum] Wording of Not Giving Address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <145C24E9232149CC88BB9F2705023871@jamesfleming> But won't they get ticked when there are even MORE cars on Friday and Saturday? Jim - Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 5:33 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] Wording of Not Giving Address Hi Sara, The way I am wording it is that I say, "I have been telling everyone who calls that I will email or call them the night before and tell them the address, because my street is a very quiet street and I don't want my neighbours to get ticked at me for having a whole stream of cars coming through." No one has had a problem with that, yet! Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: j crafor To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please You're right, it can sound abrupt. Preface it with something like, You know, I'm using the Five Day Sale Method, and following the directions to the best of my ability. They say to not give out the address or directions to the house until Friday night or Saturday, I hope you understand. So, let me read your phone number/email address back to you to be sure I have it correct." I called/emailed late enough Friday that it was about dark, too dark to see the place well. On Sat, they're just as likely to wait for the sale time to go, as before. That way they get to see the inside, too, and their curiosity will get the best of them. JCrafor > From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:38:33 -0600 > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please > > Thank you for the info. I am not giving the callers the address, I am > following the book. I understand the importance of NUMBERS. What my question > was about phrasing when telling them I am not giving the address until Friday > night. It just sounded abrupt the first time I answered the question and was > looking for suggestions for a softer answer for callers. > Believe me I want to follow the book exactly- I want this to work and sell my > house in these 5 days. > > Sara > > > On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:17:01 +0000 > j crafor wrote: > > > > A major goal is to get as many people TO the house at the same time to > >generate interest and bids. If they can drive by on wednesday, if not > >interested, they won't show up on the days when you want as many people there > >at the same time as possible. YOu want NUMBERS. THAT's why you list the house > >at half price--to get NUMBERS. > > > > If everybody looks at it before the inspection time, it's possible only 2-3 > >will return to bid. > > > > > > > >Follow the book. Take contact information, tell them you'll call or email > >Friday night or Sat AM with the address and driving directions. When I did > >it, no one had a problem. The fact that there are several people looking at > >it at the same time is crucial. > > > > JCrafor > > > >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:53 -0600 > >> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please > >> > >> thank you Janet. I have not had the house appraised and I can use the > >>assessed > >> value, that is a great idea. > >> Next question: What phrasing would be best used to answer when they ask for > >> the address. I feel like I sound unrehersed when I try to answer this > >> question. I do give them somewhat close cross streets so they know about > >>where > >> it is. > >> Sara > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT > >> Janetislight at aol.com wrote: > >> > I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed > >> > value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. > >> > > >> > Janet > >> > > >> > > >> > In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > >> > dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: > >> > > >> > Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and > >>practice. > >> > > >> > I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I > >> > say if > >> > they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it > >> > appraised > >> > or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" > >> > Thanks- Sara > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> previous message: > >> > > >> > > >> > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the > >> > buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to have > >> > another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to turn > >> >in. > >> > > >> > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a question, > >> > I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that the > >> > title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few > >> > questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific > >> >questions, bring > >> > them here. > >> > > >> > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was > >> > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was > >>waiting > >> >THAT > >> > MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me > >> > if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) > >> > > >> > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop > >> > or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest > >> > money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and > >> > turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. > >> > I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the > >> > buyer wants to do, at the least. > >> > > >> > JCrafor > >> >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > >> >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 > >> >> Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please > >> >> > >> >> I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything > >> > ready. The > >> >> one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid > >> > Sunday > >> >> night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer. then what? I > >> > contacted a > >> >> Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good > >> > but I am > >> >> a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. > >> >> Suggestions? > >> >> > >> >> Sara > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> 5-DayForum mailing list > >> >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> >> > >> > > >>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforu m > >> > > >> > > >> > ____________________________________ > >> > Windows LiveT HotmailR: Search, add, and share the web's latest sports > >> > videos. _Check it out._ > >> > > >>(http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGL M_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports) > >> > = > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > 5-DayForum mailing list > >> > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> > > >>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforu m > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > 5-DayForum mailing list > >> > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> > > >>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforu m > >> > > >> > > >> > **************Dell Deals: Treat yourself to a sweet deal on popular > >> > laptops! > >> > > >>(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223096155x1201715982/aol?redir=h ttp:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D6) > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 5-DayForum mailing list > >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Windows LiveT HotmailR: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. > >Check it out. > > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_W L_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR: Search, add, and share the web's latest sports videos. Check it out. _____ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090724/320c0df9/attachment.html From ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 25 08:39:19 2009 From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca (Parcel Property Investments) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:39:19 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Wording of Not Giving Address In-Reply-To: <145C24E9232149CC88BB9F2705023871@jamesfleming> References: <145C24E9232149CC88BB9F2705023871@jamesfleming> Message-ID: Jim, I'm on Day 5 now, and so far so good!! Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: James Fleming To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Wording of Not Giving Address But won't they get ticked when there are even MORE cars on Friday and Saturday? Jim - Realtor Vancouver WA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 5:33 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] Wording of Not Giving Address Hi Sara, The way I am wording it is that I say, "I have been telling everyone who calls that I will email or call them the night before and tell them the address, because my street is a very quiet street and I don't want my neighbours to get ticked at me for having a whole stream of cars coming through." No one has had a problem with that, yet! Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: j crafor To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please You're right, it can sound abrupt. Preface it with something like, You know, I'm using the Five Day Sale Method, and following the directions to the best of my ability. They say to not give out the address or directions to the house until Friday night or Saturday, I hope you understand. So, let me read your phone number/email address back to you to be sure I have it correct." I called/emailed late enough Friday that it was about dark, too dark to see the place well. On Sat, they're just as likely to wait for the sale time to go, as before. That way they get to see the inside, too, and their curiosity will get the best of them. JCrafor > From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:38:33 -0600 > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please > > Thank you for the info. I am not giving the callers the address, I am > following the book. I understand the importance of NUMBERS. What my question > was about phrasing when telling them I am not giving the address until Friday > night. It just sounded abrupt the first time I answered the question and was > looking for suggestions for a softer answer for callers. > Believe me I want to follow the book exactly- I want this to work and sell my > house in these 5 days. > > Sara > > > On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:17:01 +0000 > j crafor wrote: > > > > A major goal is to get as many people TO the house at the same time to > >generate interest and bids. If they can drive by on wednesday, if not > >interested, they won't show up on the days when you want as many people there > >at the same time as possible. YOu want NUMBERS. THAT's why you list the house > >at half price--to get NUMBERS. > > > > If everybody looks at it before the inspection time, it's possible only 2-3 > >will return to bid. > > > > > > > >Follow the book. Take contact information, tell them you'll call or email > >Friday night or Sat AM with the address and driving directions. When I did > >it, no one had a problem. The fact that there are several people looking at > >it at the same time is crucial. > > > > JCrafor > > > >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:53 -0600 > >> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Fwd: assistance please > >> > >> thank you Janet. I have not had the house appraised and I can use the > >>assessed > >> value, that is a great idea. > >> Next question: What phrasing would be best used to answer when they ask for > >> the address. I feel like I sound unrehersed when I try to answer this > >> question. I do give them somewhat close cross streets so they know about > >>where > >> it is. > >> Sara > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:12 EDT > >> Janetislight at aol.com wrote: > >> > I generally do not have a property appraised. I give out the assessed > >> > value from the local assessor's site. Hope that helps. > >> > > >> > Janet > >> > > >> > > >> > In a message dated 7/22/2009 3:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > >> > dsmtj at bresnan.net writes: > >> > > >> > Thank you for the much needed information. I will make copies and > >>practice. > >> > > >> > I have another question: I have only had two calls so far but what do I > >> > say if > >> > they ask "what do you think the home is worth?" or "Have you had it > >> > appraised > >> > or looked at by a realtor and what did they say it is worth?" > >> > Thanks- Sara > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> previous message: > >> > > >> > > >> > What I did was make a few copies. One for me for practice, one for the > >> > buyer for practice, and another for a "good" copy. I always loike to have > >> > another "clean" copy just in case I make an error on the good one, to turn > >> >in. > >> > > >> > I filled out the practice one as well as I could, and if I had a question, > >> > I called the title co and asked about it. Mine has printed on it that the > >> > title co cannot give legal advice, but the agent did answer a few > >> > questions, notable on who generally paid what. If you have specific > >> >questions, bring > >> > them here. > >> > > >> > As I filled out my practice sheets, I had to gather info that it was > >> > easier to find without the stress of a timeline knowing someone was > >>waiting > >> >THAT > >> > MINUTE for me. I made copies of THOSE papers so the buyer could check me > >> > if he felt the need. (Didn't want to have the originals out.) > >> > > >> > After you have your deal, arrange to meet at the house, or a coffee shop > >> > or library or someplace, fill them out, thatn (in my case) get the earnest > >> > money, and either you go alone, or both of you go to the title company and > >> > turn the papers in. Ask there what you do next. They'll guide you. > >> > I would guess you need to make the house available for any inspections the > >> > buyer wants to do, at the least. > >> > > >> > JCrafor > >> >> From: dsmtj at bresnan.net > >> >> To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:49:13 -0600 > >> >> Subject: [5-DayForum] assistance please > >> >> > >> >> I am getting ready to have my 5-day sale and have almost everything > >> > ready. The > >> >> one thing I am not so sure about is when I do get that highest bid > >> > Sunday > >> >> night and strike a deal over the phone with my buyer. then what? I > >> > contacted a > >> >> Title company and they sent me a FSBO packet and all is well and good > >> > but I am > >> >> a little leery about filling out the contract and other forms properly. > >> >> Suggestions? > >> >> > >> >> Sara > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> 5-DayForum mailing list > >> >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> >> > >> > > >>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > >> > > >> > > >> > ____________________________________ > >> > Windows LiveT Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web's latest sports > >> > videos. _Check it out._ > >> > > >>(http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports) > >> > = > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > 5-DayForum mailing list > >> > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> > > >>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > 5-DayForum mailing list > >> > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> > > >>http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > >> > > >> > > >> > **************Dell Deals: Treat yourself to a sweet deal on popular > >> > laptops! > >> > > >>(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223096155x1201715982/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D6) > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 5-DayForum mailing list > >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Windows LiveT Hotmail?: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. > >Check it out. > > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows LiveT Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web's latest sports videos. 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We are in one of the most desirable areas in Nashville, one of the least-distressed areas in the country. I want to have a 5-day sale, and she wants to drop the listing price to $750,000.? Her objections go like this: 1.? What if the bidding tops out under her "drop-dead" price (725,000), and I have to tell the high bidder it's not high enough?? Then they sue us.? What then? 2.? Same as the first one, without the lawsuit.? Now we have "poisoned the waters"?and no one will come near $725,000.? What then? 3.? She's never heard of this method, and neither has a real estate broker acquaintance. Any advice? David Richardson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks. _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585106x1201462830/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgI D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090725/13329b50/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sat Jul 25 17:03:25 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:03:25 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Convinced, but ex-wife isn't Message-ID: Give her the book to read. And make sure she reads it. And tell her that you tell EVERYONE, that neither side is obligated at any price until a contract is signed. My lord, she is willing to go over $400K under your original price, and she wont give this a shot? Maybe you can also sign her up on the forum so that she can see lots of other to this. Wishing you lots or charismatic good luck! One of the "Guys" Janet lol In a message dated 7/25/2009 3:58:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, david-richardson at comcast.net writes: Guys, I am convinced that this will work, but I have a problem. My ex-wife and I have had our house on the market for two years with no bona fide offers. We started it out at $1,150,000 and have dropped it to $849,900 and still nothing. We are in one of the most desirable areas in Nashville, one of the least-distressed areas in the country. I want to have a 5-day sale, and she wants to drop the listing price to $750,000. Her objections go like this: 1. What if the bidding tops out under her "drop-dead" price (725,000), and I have to tell the high bidder it's not high enough? Then they sue us. What then? 2. Same as the first one, without the lawsuit. Now we have "poisoned the waters" and no one will come near $725,000. What then? 3. She's never heard of this method, and neither has a real estate broker acquaintance. Any advice? David Richardson _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585106x1201462830/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lots of positive reaction! I've included my info in this posting. The "Short House Description" will be by each phone for my helpers to use as a reference. I use it myself when fielding calls and emails. The "Quick Description" and "Detailed Description" is what potential buyers will receive. Oh, I forgot to mention, I was having trouble getting enough people to help, so I offered to hire people to help me. I am paying them $10/hr CDN to do the things described in the book by Mr. Effros. I also provide lunch for them. I decided to clear out most of my house so most of the rooms are empty. *whew!* what a process, but it will make the move easier when that time comes.... Feedback welcome. Tammy Barrie, Ontario CANADA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090725/8b11b6b4/attachment.html From ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 25 19:07:24 2009 From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca (Parcel Property Investments) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:07:24 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Why not Sunday? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Naji, Sunday is the Sabbath for me, and I do not transact business on Sundays. It is based on the on the Word which says, "Six days shalt thou do they work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed." (Exodus 23:12). See Isaiah 58:13-14 for some of the powerful promises to those that obey the Sabbath Day principle. I am a Christian and I try to follow this instruction as best I can within the structure of modern North American society. Now I am going to go sort my bidding list from greatest to least...update you soon! God Bless, Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Canadian 5-Day Sale...addendum Tammy, Out of curiosity, why Friday & Saturday for the open house and not Saturday & Sunday? -Naji ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:33 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Canadian 5-Day Sale...addendum I forgot to mention, people can't believe the price and people are responding very positively when I explain the bidding process. Lots of positive reaction! I've included my info in this posting. The "Short House Description" will be by each phone for my helpers to use as a reference. I use it myself when fielding calls and emails. The "Quick Description" and "Detailed Description" is what potential buyers will receive. Oh, I forgot to mention, I was having trouble getting enough people to help, so I offered to hire people to help me. I am paying them $10/hr CDN to do the things described in the book by Mr. Effros. I also provide lunch for them. I decided to clear out most of my house so most of the rooms are empty. *whew!* what a process, but it will make the move easier when that time comes.... Feedback welcome. Tammy Barrie, Ontario CANADA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090725/f2a9e968/attachment.html From ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 25 20:08:30 2009 From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca (Parcel Property Investments) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:08:30 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Why not Sunday? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: what do you do if the highest bidder won't advance right off the bat? is that okay? ----- Original Message ----- From: Parcel Property Investments To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] Why not Sunday? Hi Naji, Sunday is the Sabbath for me, and I do not transact business on Sundays. It is based on the on the Word which says, "Six days shalt thou do they work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed." (Exodus 23:12). See Isaiah 58:13-14 for some of the powerful promises to those that obey the Sabbath Day principle. I am a Christian and I try to follow this instruction as best I can within the structure of modern North American society. Now I am going to go sort my bidding list from greatest to least...update you soon! God Bless, Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Canadian 5-Day Sale...addendum Tammy, Out of curiosity, why Friday & Saturday for the open house and not Saturday & Sunday? -Naji ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:33 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Canadian 5-Day Sale...addendum I forgot to mention, people can't believe the price and people are responding very positively when I explain the bidding process. Lots of positive reaction! I've included my info in this posting. The "Short House Description" will be by each phone for my helpers to use as a reference. I use it myself when fielding calls and emails. The "Quick Description" and "Detailed Description" is what potential buyers will receive. Oh, I forgot to mention, I was having trouble getting enough people to help, so I offered to hire people to help me. I am paying them $10/hr CDN to do the things described in the book by Mr. Effros. I also provide lunch for them. I decided to clear out most of my house so most of the rooms are empty. *whew!* what a process, but it will make the move easier when that time comes.... Feedback welcome. Tammy Barrie, Ontario CANADA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090725/bc9a112e/attachment.html From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com Sat Jul 25 20:12:31 2009 From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:12:31 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Why not Sunday? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's okay. He or She will want to know what everyone else is going to do before making any decisions. Just go on to the next one on the list and so on. -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:09 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Why not Sunday? what do you do if the highest bidder won't advance right off the bat? is that okay? ----- Original Message ----- From: Parcel Property Investments To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] Why not Sunday? Hi Naji, Sunday is the Sabbath for me, and I do not transact business on Sundays. It is based on the on the Word which says, "Six days shalt thou do they work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed." (Exodus 23:12). See Isaiah 58:13-14 for some of the powerful promises to those that obey the Sabbath Day principle. I am a Christian and I try to follow this instruction as best I can within the structure of modern North American society. Now I am going to go sort my bidding list from greatest to least...update you soon! God Bless, Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Canadian 5-Day Sale...addendum Tammy, Out of curiosity, why Friday & Saturday for the open house and not Saturday & Sunday? -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:33 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Canadian 5-Day Sale...addendum I forgot to mention, people can't believe the price and people are responding very positively when I explain the bidding process. Lots of positive reaction! I've included my info in this posting. The "Short House Description" will be by each phone for my helpers to use as a reference. I use it myself when fielding calls and emails. The "Quick Description" and "Detailed Description" is what potential buyers will receive. Oh, I forgot to mention, I was having trouble getting enough people to help, so I offered to hire people to help me. I am paying them $10/hr CDN to do the things described in the book by Mr. Effros. I also provide lunch for them. I decided to clear out most of my house so most of the rooms are empty. *whew!* what a process, but it will make the move easier when that time comes.... Feedback welcome. Tammy Barrie, Ontario CANADA _____ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090725/01ea8ab7/attachment.html From tammytarr at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 25 20:19:31 2009 From: tammytarr at sympatico.ca (Tammy) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:19:31 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Round Robin!!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey all, My advertisement started bidding at $125,000, as you will recall. Currently up to $185,500 ..... keep ya posted.... Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Janetislight at aol.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Purchase Conditions I think there is a way to word this, saying that the ability to close quickly will have an effect on the choice of winner. Or, a drop dead date that closing has to take place by. The second is very common in sales of foreclosures, especially with VA foreclosures and auction properties. Janet In a message dated 7/22/2009 9:42:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca writes: Does anyone have any experience with what kind of purchase conditions would be best with regards to financing, sale of currently owned house, inspection? I feel okay with conditional upon financing and inspection, but I want to move quickly so I don't want to wait for the sale of another house. Or perhaps I should only accept unconditional offers. Any insights? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090725/ce67f684/attachment.html From ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 25 20:23:08 2009 From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca (Parcel Property Investments) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:23:08 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] order of calling the second time 'round In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do I call from highest to lowest the second time around, or in the same order as the first time around?? Tammy ----- Original Message ----- From: Parcel Property Investments To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] Why not Sunday? Hi Naji, Sunday is the Sabbath for me, and I do not transact business on Sundays. It is based on the on the Word which says, "Six days shalt thou do they work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed." (Exodus 23:12). See Isaiah 58:13-14 for some of the powerful promises to those that obey the Sabbath Day principle. I am a Christian and I try to follow this instruction as best I can within the structure of modern North American society. Now I am going to go sort my bidding list from greatest to least...update you soon! God Bless, Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Canadian 5-Day Sale...addendum Tammy, Out of curiosity, why Friday & Saturday for the open house and not Saturday & Sunday? -Naji ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:33 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Canadian 5-Day Sale...addendum I forgot to mention, people can't believe the price and people are responding very positively when I explain the bidding process. Lots of positive reaction! I've included my info in this posting. The "Short House Description" will be by each phone for my helpers to use as a reference. I use it myself when fielding calls and emails. The "Quick Description" and "Detailed Description" is what potential buyers will receive. Oh, I forgot to mention, I was having trouble getting enough people to help, so I offered to hire people to help me. I am paying them $10/hr CDN to do the things described in the book by Mr. Effros. I also provide lunch for them. I decided to clear out most of my house so most of the rooms are empty. *whew!* what a process, but it will make the move easier when that time comes.... Feedback welcome. 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090725/d38fbfb1/attachment.html From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com Sat Jul 25 20:29:18 2009 From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:29:18 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] order of calling the second time 'round In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <600869B0EEC44B30B1BECEC36B97BC9E@NSKHome> Let's say you have 15 bidders: First round: Highest to lowest. 1 through 15: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. The next round, same order 1.15 minus anyone that dropped out and so on. -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:23 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] order of calling the second time 'round Do I call from highest to lowest the second time around, or in the same order as the first time around?? Tammy ----- Original Message ----- From: Parcel Property Investments To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] Why not Sunday? Hi Naji, Sunday is the Sabbath for me, and I do not transact business on Sundays. It is based on the on the Word which says, "Six days shalt thou do they work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed." (Exodus 23:12). See Isaiah 58:13-14 for some of the powerful promises to those that obey the Sabbath Day principle. I am a Christian and I try to follow this instruction as best I can within the structure of modern North American society. Now I am going to go sort my bidding list from greatest to least...update you soon! God Bless, Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Canadian 5-Day Sale...addendum Tammy, Out of curiosity, why Friday & Saturday for the open house and not Saturday & Sunday? -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:33 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] Canadian 5-Day Sale...addendum I forgot to mention, people can't believe the price and people are responding very positively when I explain the bidding process. Lots of positive reaction! I've included my info in this posting. The "Short House Description" will be by each phone for my helpers to use as a reference. I use it myself when fielding calls and emails. The "Quick Description" and "Detailed Description" is what potential buyers will receive. Oh, I forgot to mention, I was having trouble getting enough people to help, so I offered to hire people to help me. I am paying them $10/hr CDN to do the things described in the book by Mr. Effros. I also provide lunch for them. I decided to clear out most of my house so most of the rooms are empty. *whew!* what a process, but it will make the move easier when that time comes.... Feedback welcome. Tammy Barrie, Ontario CANADA _____ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090725/c8c70856/attachment.html From ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 25 21:09:50 2009 From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca (Parcel Property Investments) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:09:50 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Callbacks?? In-Reply-To: <600869B0EEC44B30B1BECEC36B97BC9E@NSKHome> References: <600869B0EEC44B30B1BECEC36B97BC9E@NSKHome> Message-ID: Someone is asking "Can I call you right back?" I am also wondering if someone can call and stay in on the bidding after they've "passed"... i can't remember if the book says... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090725/5338a70a/attachment.html From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com Sat Jul 25 21:24:56 2009 From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:24:56 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Callbacks?? In-Reply-To: References: <600869B0EEC44B30B1BECEC36B97BC9E@NSKHome> Message-ID: <739AD32D468D4394B5503F0A497BE986@NSKHome> If someone asks if they can call back, tell them that you'll wait five to ten minutes before calling the next person but they are more than welcome to call back if they need more time. Just go down the list . I'm not sure about letting someone that passed back in. Not sure how real of a buyer they are if they are wishy washy. I had someone do that in one of my sales and they were not a REAL buyer. _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 9:10 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] Callbacks?? Someone is asking "Can I call you right back?" I am also wondering if someone can call and stay in on the bidding after they've "passed"... i can't remember if the book says... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090725/cb3d4299/attachment.html From tammytarr at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 25 21:33:22 2009 From: tammytarr at sympatico.ca (Tammy) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:33:22 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Round Robin - round 3 In-Reply-To: <739AD32D468D4394B5503F0A497BE986@NSKHome> References: <600869B0EEC44B30B1BECEC36B97BC9E@NSKHome> <739AD32D468D4394B5503F0A497BE986@NSKHome> Message-ID: Hey all.... Once again, starting bid was $125,000 ..... current highest bid is $210,000 .... 4 bidders left ..... cross your fingers.... Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Callbacks?? If someone asks if they can call back, tell them that you'll wait five to ten minutes before calling the next person but they are more than welcome to call back if they need more time. Just go down the list . I'm not sure about letting someone that passed back in. Not sure how real of a buyer they are if they are wishy washy. I had someone do that in one of my sales and they were not a REAL buyer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 9:10 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] Callbacks?? Someone is asking "Can I call you right back?" I am also wondering if someone can call and stay in on the bidding after they've "passed"... i can't remember if the book says... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090725/5725fdbb/attachment.html From tammytarr at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 25 21:47:50 2009 From: tammytarr at sympatico.ca (Tammy) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:47:50 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Round Robin - round 4 In-Reply-To: <739AD32D468D4394B5503F0A497BE986@NSKHome> References: <600869B0EEC44B30B1BECEC36B97BC9E@NSKHome> <739AD32D468D4394B5503F0A497BE986@NSKHome> Message-ID: Sweating bullets....current high bid $212,500.....3 highest bidders.... Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090725/5b1d03b6/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sun Jul 26 09:08:39 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:08:39 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Round Robin - round 4 Message-ID: And??????? Janet In a message dated 7/25/2009 8:48:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Sweating bullets....current high bid $212,500.....3 highest bidders.... Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323048x1201367271/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090726/0ab9ef4f/attachment.html From tammytarr at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 26 14:22:36 2009 From: tammytarr at sympatico.ca (Tammy) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:22:36 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: <739AD32D468D4394B5503F0A497BE986@NSKHome> References: <600869B0EEC44B30B1BECEC36B97BC9E@NSKHome> <739AD32D468D4394B5503F0A497BE986@NSKHome> Message-ID: Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090726/cc10adf1/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:31:56 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:31:56 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Message-ID: You can always counter offer with the additional $7,000. You lose nothing. I've noticed the 5 day sales seem to come in about 10-15 thousand short of a sellers lowest price. Are we expecting too much? Or is this method not working as well due to the sharks that real estate agents have turned buyers into in the current economy. If you can get $15,000 more with a real estate agent, then they have paid for their services and then some. If I really thought this, I would go with the agent. Do you REALLY think this? Good luck. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 1:23:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323048x1201367271/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgI D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090726/f46ac4c6/attachment.html From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com Sun Jul 26 14:44:48 2009 From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:44:48 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: <600869B0EEC44B30B1BECEC36B97BC9E@NSKHome><739AD32D468D4394B5503F0A497BE986@NSKHome> Message-ID: Personally, I would see if the highest bidder is willing to move up to were you can get rid of this place. If he/she can, then go for it. If not, I would check with the bank to see if they are willing to work something out. I'm not sure how the real estate market is up in Barrie, but if it's anything like the rest of the world, then anything purchased during the real estate (Last 2-4 years) peak is going to be worth less today. BTW, there are over 88 properties in Barrie below 300K that meet your home's criteria: http://tinyurl.com/ls8owk Compare what you see and then you can decide on listing or not. I would take the highest bid and move on. -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:23 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090726/91479bb5/attachment.html From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com Sun Jul 26 14:52:49 2009 From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:52:49 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8608241759C645AFA0DC9CA5650E40FB@NSKHome> I think we are all "hoping" to get more than what the market says the home is worth. Hoping doesn't change the outcome of this method. People need to understand that the home is worth X dollars on this weekend, period. A house is a commodity and it's worth what someone (buyers) say it's worth during a particular time frame. 2-3 years ago, buyers were camping overnight at builder sites to outbid one another for homes. Today, these same homes are selling for 40%-60% below what all those buyers paid for them. What changed? The same thing that changed during the gold bubble, the oil bubble, the commodities bubble, the junk bond bubble, the dot.com bubble, the last real estate bubble, etc. We ran out of FOOLS willing to pay ridiculous amounts of money for something, that's it. Simply put, it's the laws of supply and demand. -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:32 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale You can always counter offer with the additional $7,000. You lose nothing. I've noticed the 5 day sales seem to come in about 10-15 thousand short of a sellers lowest price. Are we expecting too much? Or is this method not working as well due to the sharks that real estate agents have turned buyers into in the current economy. If you can get $15,000 more with a real estate agent, then they have paid for their services and then some. If I really thought this, I would go with the agent. Do you REALLY think this? Good luck. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 1:23:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090726/d70ca8e6/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:57:20 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:57:20 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Message-ID: I agree with what you say. And this many be true where Tammie is. The market in Des Moines Iowa has been stable. Some say up 1%, some say down 1%. The problem with realtors, is that they are teaching the mentality of the national crisis. That's all I was alluding to. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 1:53:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes: I think we are all ?hoping? to get more than what the market says the home is worth? Hoping doesn?t change the outcome of this method. People need to understand that the home is worth X dollars on this weekend, period. A house is a commodity and it?s worth what someone (buyers) say it?s worth during a particular time frame. 2-3 years ago, buyers were camping overnight at builder sites to outbid one another for homes? Today, these same homes are selling for 40%-60% below what all those buyers paid for them? What changed? The same thing that changed during the gold bubble, the oil bubble, the commodities bubble, the junk bond bubble, the dot.com bubble, the last real estate bubble, etc? We ran out of FOOLS willing to pay ridiculous amounts of money for something, that ?s it. Simply put, it?s the laws of supply and demand. -Naji ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:32 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale You can always counter offer with the additional $7,000. You lose nothing. I've noticed the 5 day sales seem to come in about 10-15 thousand short of a sellers lowest price. Are we expecting too much? Or is this method not working as well due to the sharks that real estate agents have turned buyers into in the current economy. If you can get $15,000 more with a real estate agent, then they have paid for their services and then some. If I really thought this, I would go with the agent. Do you REALLY think this? Good luck. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 1:23:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ____________________________________ A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. _See now!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323048x1201367271/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=J ulyBadfooterNO62) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323048x1201367271/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgI D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090726/cd2ff9d8/attachment.html From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com Sun Jul 26 15:08:18 2009 From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:08:18 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56E7CC29111A42A6B42E34671E257708@NSKHome> You're right. During the peak, these so called professionals were telling people to buy, buy, and buy as prices were going to keep rising. These same pros today tell their clients to make offers 10%-20% below asking price since housing price are depreciating. Just do a search on google for David Lereah and Lawrence Yun (The NAR hacks) to see what they were saying before the boom, during the boom, and during the bust. -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:57 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale I agree with what you say. And this many be true where Tammie is. The market in Des Moines Iowa has been stable. Some say up 1%, some say down 1%. The problem with realtors, is that they are teaching the mentality of the national crisis. That's all I was alluding to. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 1:53:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes: I think we are all "hoping" to get more than what the market says the home is worth. Hoping doesn't change the outcome of this method. People need to understand that the home is worth X dollars on this weekend, period. A house is a commodity and it's worth what someone (buyers) say it's worth during a particular time frame. 2-3 years ago, buyers were camping overnight at builder sites to outbid one another for homes. Today, these same homes are selling for 40%-60% below what all those buyers paid for them. What changed? The same thing that changed during the gold bubble, the oil bubble, the commodities bubble, the junk bond bubble, the dot.com bubble, the last real estate bubble, etc. We ran out of FOOLS willing to pay ridiculous amounts of money for something, that's it. Simply put, it's the laws of supply and demand. -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:32 PM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale You can always counter offer with the additional $7,000. You lose nothing. I've noticed the 5 day sales seem to come in about 10-15 thousand short of a sellers lowest price. Are we expecting too much? Or is this method not working as well due to the sharks that real estate agents have turned buyers into in the current economy. If you can get $15,000 more with a real estate agent, then they have paid for their services and then some. If I really thought this, I would go with the agent. Do you REALLY think this? Good luck. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 1:23:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090726/dc560ed2/attachment.html From jill at holeinonehomes.com Sun Jul 26 15:28:48 2009 From: jill at holeinonehomes.com (jill at holeinonehomes.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:28:48 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1472718419-1248636865-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1138455165-@bxe1017.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Ok I can't stand to not respond. I read your previous message and its unfortunate that you choose to attack realtors. I will quote you, "Or is this method not working as well due to the sharks that real estate agents have turned buyers into in the current economy." Realtors are not responsible for turning buyers into sharks. Any educated or for that matter any uneducated person just needs to turn on the evening news! The media sensationalizes everything. I'm afraid you overstate a realtors ability to influence people. The numbers are the numbers. Banks loaned people money that had no business buying a house. I just looked up a house for a client and the sellers borrowed 100 percent. They are now in default. I am a realtor and an investor. Bill's method doesn't work in this market unless you are ready and prepared to take a loss or less than you expect. My sister just tried the 5 day method. I encouraged her and told her it sounded assume and exciting and also if it doesn't work your house will be ready to go either way. I read the book and helped her at the open house during the sale. Her result was a total BUST. She did everything by the book. For her $500K home the high bid was $375K. She then listed the property for $515K and it sold in two weeks for $495K. Explain that one! As with any profession there will be bad apples. Please don't through all realtors in the same basket, someday you may need one! Sincerely, Jill Louisville, kY Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Janetislight at aol.com Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:57:20 To: <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From Janetislight at aol.com Sun Jul 26 15:39:08 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:39:08 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Message-ID: I'm sorry if that came off a little strong. And, I use realtors all the time. One of my realtor friends said that he has sellers refusing to sell their houses to certain people because the realtor told their clients to drive to hard a bargain and act like they were doing the seller a favor. I'm not saying ALL. And never intended it that way. But it IS out there. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 2:35:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jill at holeinonehomes.com writes: Ok I can't stand to not respond. I read your previous message and its unfortunate that you choose to attack realtors. I will quote you, "Or is this method not working as well due to the sharks that real estate agents have turned buyers into in the current economy." Realtors are not responsible for turning buyers into sharks. Any educated or for that matter any uneducated person just needs to turn on the evening news! The media sensationalizes everything. I'm afraid you overstate a realtors ability to influence people. The numbers are the numbers. Banks loaned people money that had no business buying a house. I just looked up a house for a client and the sellers borrowed 100 percent. They are now in default. I am a realtor and an investor. Bill's method doesn't work in this market unless you are ready and prepared to take a loss or less than you expect. My sister just tried the 5 day method. I encouraged her and told her it sounded assume and exciting and also if it doesn't work your house will be ready to go either way. I read the book and helped her at the open house during the sale. Her result was a total BUST. She did everything by the book. For her $500K home the high bid was $375K. She then listed the property for $515K and it sold in two weeks for $495K. Explain that one! As with any profession there will be bad apples. Please don't through all realtors in the same basket, someday you may need one! Sincerely, Jill Louisville, kY Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Janetislight at aol.com Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:57:20 To: <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323048x1201367271/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgI D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090726/b3844a82/attachment.html From jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 19:18:35 2009 From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com (James Fleming) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:18:35 -0700 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Janet and Naji, As handy as it would be to be able to count on sweeping generalities like "buyers in the current market have been turned into sharks by Realtors" or "the 5-day method always works when done by the book", such generalities simply aren't true. Some buyers are sharks, some are not. Some 5-day sales have worked, some have not. I agree with a portion of Naji's point that as the bubble was growing there were so called professionals who were advising people to buy, buy, buy. He also rightfully singles out some prognosticators who were wrong - including a few working for high profile organizations like the NAR. But there were also highly competent professional Realtors who were encouraging their clients to buy. Whether the advice was worthwhile depends upon what the rest of the advice entailed. If the people being advised to buy were investors, the real estate run up provided incredible profit potential. Again, it depends upon what the rest of the advice entailed. All investments must have a payday, i.e., a profitable exit plan, in order to be worthwhile as investments. I have a number of clients who took my advice during the run up, bought, and made substantial profits. How? By taking the rest of my advice which was to turn around and sell when the real estate investments reached pre-identified value points. By pre-identified, I mean that we knew what they were going in. We accomplished these higher value points as a function of the type of investment; some by sub-dividing land, some by remodeling and upgrading flippers, and others by simply cashing in on rapid short term appreciation without lifting a paint brush (the proverbial "buy low, sell high" strategy). We, me included, have all known Realtors who were an embarrassment to the profession. We have also known members of other professions who were just as much of an embarrassment. Let's face it; malpractice in the professions is a fact of life. Does this mean that competent professionals don't exist? No. It simply means that due diligence is a critical step when selecting one. Just because a so called professional has a license to practice, or because a so called expert has published a book, that doesn't mean we should blindly accept their advice. Blind acceptance too often ends tragically. Jim -- Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:32 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale You can always counter offer with the additional $7,000. You lose nothing. I've noticed the 5 day sales seem to come in about 10-15 thousand short of a sellers lowest price. Are we expecting too much? Or is this method not working as well due to the sharks that real estate agents have turned buyers into in the current economy. If you can get $15,000 more with a real estate agent, then they have paid for their services and then some. If I really thought this, I would go with the agent. Do you REALLY think this? Good luck. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 1:23:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090726/5cd970a7/attachment.html From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com Sun Jul 26 21:03:46 2009 From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:03:46 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95ED34716ACB40D2B9BE24B8C97ECB98@NSKHome> Jim, I always enjoy reading your replies. They are very well written and most of the time right on the money. I should have paid you a visit last week as I drove through Vancouver on the way to Portland. Regards, -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of James Fleming Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:19 PM To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Janet and Naji, As handy as it would be to be able to count on sweeping generalities like "buyers in the current market have been turned into sharks by Realtors" or "the 5-day method always works when done by the book", such generalities simply aren't true. Some buyers are sharks, some are not. Some 5-day sales have worked, some have not. I agree with a portion of Naji's point that as the bubble was growing there were so called professionals who were advising people to buy, buy, buy. He also rightfully singles out some prognosticators who were wrong - including a few working for high profile organizations like the NAR. But there were also highly competent professional Realtors who were encouraging their clients to buy. Whether the advice was worthwhile depends upon what the rest of the advice entailed. If the people being advised to buy were investors, the real estate run up provided incredible profit potential. Again, it depends upon what the rest of the advice entailed. All investments must have a payday, i.e., a profitable exit plan, in order to be worthwhile as investments. I have a number of clients who took my advice during the run up, bought, and made substantial profits. How? By taking the rest of my advice which was to turn around and sell when the real estate investments reached pre-identified value points. By pre-identified, I mean that we knew what they were going in. We accomplished these higher value points as a function of the type of investment; some by sub-dividing land, some by remodeling and upgrading flippers, and others by simply cashing in on rapid short term appreciation without lifting a paint brush (the proverbial "buy low, sell high" strategy). We, me included, have all known Realtors who were an embarrassment to the profession. We have also known members of other professions who were just as much of an embarrassment. Let's face it; malpractice in the professions is a fact of life. Does this mean that competent professionals don't exist? No. It simply means that due diligence is a critical step when selecting one. Just because a so called professional has a license to practice, or because a so called expert has published a book, that doesn't mean we should blindly accept their advice. Blind acceptance too often ends tragically. Jim -- Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:32 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale You can always counter offer with the additional $7,000. You lose nothing. I've noticed the 5 day sales seem to come in about 10-15 thousand short of a sellers lowest price. Are we expecting too much? Or is this method not working as well due to the sharks that real estate agents have turned buyers into in the current economy. If you can get $15,000 more with a real estate agent, then they have paid for their services and then some. If I really thought this, I would go with the agent. Do you REALLY think this? Good luck. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 1:23:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090726/c0d209f1/attachment.html From jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 22:00:26 2009 From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com (James Fleming) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:00:26 -0700 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: <95ED34716ACB40D2B9BE24B8C97ECB98@NSKHome> References: <95ED34716ACB40D2B9BE24B8C97ECB98@NSKHome> Message-ID: <74AAF19860C245C2ABD93496194B3799@jamesfleming> Naji, Next time. I look forward to it. :-) Best, Jim _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Naji Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:04 PM To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Jim, I always enjoy reading your replies. They are very well written and most of the time right on the money. I should have paid you a visit last week as I drove through Vancouver on the way to Portland. Regards, -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of James Fleming Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:19 PM To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Janet and Naji, As handy as it would be to be able to count on sweeping generalities like "buyers in the current market have been turned into sharks by Realtors" or "the 5-day method always works when done by the book", such generalities simply aren't true. Some buyers are sharks, some are not. Some 5-day sales have worked, some have not. I agree with a portion of Naji's point that as the bubble was growing there were so called professionals who were advising people to buy, buy, buy. He also rightfully singles out some prognosticators who were wrong - including a few working for high profile organizations like the NAR. But there were also highly competent professional Realtors who were encouraging their clients to buy. Whether the advice was worthwhile depends upon what the rest of the advice entailed. If the people being advised to buy were investors, the real estate run up provided incredible profit potential. Again, it depends upon what the rest of the advice entailed. All investments must have a payday, i.e., a profitable exit plan, in order to be worthwhile as investments. I have a number of clients who took my advice during the run up, bought, and made substantial profits. How? By taking the rest of my advice which was to turn around and sell when the real estate investments reached pre-identified value points. By pre-identified, I mean that we knew what they were going in. We accomplished these higher value points as a function of the type of investment; some by sub-dividing land, some by remodeling and upgrading flippers, and others by simply cashing in on rapid short term appreciation without lifting a paint brush (the proverbial "buy low, sell high" strategy). We, me included, have all known Realtors who were an embarrassment to the profession. We have also known members of other professions who were just as much of an embarrassment. Let's face it; malpractice in the professions is a fact of life. Does this mean that competent professionals don't exist? No. It simply means that due diligence is a critical step when selecting one. Just because a so called professional has a license to practice, or because a so called expert has published a book, that doesn't mean we should blindly accept their advice. Blind acceptance too often ends tragically. Jim -- Realtor Vancouver WA _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:32 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale You can always counter offer with the additional $7,000. You lose nothing. I've noticed the 5 day sales seem to come in about 10-15 thousand short of a sellers lowest price. Are we expecting too much? Or is this method not working as well due to the sharks that real estate agents have turned buyers into in the current economy. If you can get $15,000 more with a real estate agent, then they have paid for their services and then some. If I really thought this, I would go with the agent. Do you REALLY think this? Good luck. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 1:23:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _____ A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090726/d2508484/attachment.html From tammytarr at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 27 09:32:52 2009 From: tammytarr at sympatico.ca (Tammy) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:32:52 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: <600869B0EEC44B30B1BECEC36B97BC9E@NSKHome><739AD32D468D4394B5503F0A497BE986@NSKHome> Message-ID: Hi Naji, You make a good point about the number of houses similar to mine on MLS. One thing I noticed though is that those houses are either ugly inside or outside, especially the newer ones, which have no character. So it makes me think that I could sell mine for about $245,000 and when you take away the real estate fees i'm still making $15,000 more. There was a house just down the street from me, very similar to mine except not as much curb appeal, that sold in 10 days for $246,000 (asking $249,000). On the other hand, what if things go south and I am sitting on my house? Anyway I have left a message for the highest bidder to give me a call, and will try to see if he will come up. I will be losing money but at least I can cut losses. Thanks for your help. Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Personally, I would see if the highest bidder is willing to move up to were you can get rid of this place. If he/she can, then go for it. If not, I would check with the bank to see if they are willing to work something out. I'm not sure how the real estate market is up in Barrie, but if it's anything like the rest of the world, then anything purchased during the real estate (Last 2-4 years) peak is going to be worth less today. BTW, there are over 88 properties in Barrie below 300K that meet your home's criteria: http://tinyurl.com/ls8owk Compare what you see and then you can decide on listing or not. I would take the highest bid and move on. -Naji ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:23 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/814b65cb/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Mon Jul 27 09:42:44 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:42:44 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Message-ID: I have already apologized for my "sweeping generality." Your response is well taken. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 6:19:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com writes: Janet and Naji, As handy as it would be to be able to count on sweeping generalities like ? buyers in the current market have been turned into sharks by Realtors? or ? the 5-day method always works when done by the book?, such generalities simply aren?t true. Some buyers are sharks, some are not. Some 5-day sales have worked, some have not. I agree with a portion of Naji?s point that as the bubble was growing there were so called professionals who were advising people to buy, buy, buy. He also rightfully singles out some prognosticators who were wrong ? including a few working for high profile organizations like the NAR. But there were also highly competent professional Realtors who were encouraging their clients to buy. Whether the advice was worthwhile depends upon what the rest of the advice entailed. If the people being advised to buy were investors, the real estate run up provided incredible profit potential. Again, it depends upon what the rest of the advice entailed. All investments must have a payday, i.e., a profitable exit plan, in order to be worthwhile as investments. I have a number of clients who took my advice during the run up, bought, and made substantial profits. How? By taking the rest of my advice which was to turn around and sell when the real estate investments reached pre-identified value points. By pre-identified, I mean that we knew what they were going in. We accomplished these higher value points as a function of the type of investment; some by sub-dividing land, some by remodeling and upgrading flippers, and others by simply cashing in on rapid short term appreciation without lifting a paint brush (the proverbial ?buy low, sell high? strategy). We, me included, have all known Realtors who were an embarrassment to the profession. We have also known members of other professions who were just as much of an embarrassment. Let?s face it; malpractice in the professions is a fact of life. Does this mean that competent professionals don?t exist? No. It simply means that due diligence is a critical step when selecting one. Just because a so called professional has a license to practice, or because a so called expert has published a book, that doesn?t mean we should blindly accept their advice. Blind acceptance too often ends tragically. Jim -- Realtor Vancouver WA ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Janetislight at aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:32 AM To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale You can always counter offer with the additional $7,000. You lose nothing. I've noticed the 5 day sales seem to come in about 10-15 thousand short of a sellers lowest price. Are we expecting too much? Or is this method not working as well due to the sharks that real estate agents have turned buyers into in the current economy. If you can get $15,000 more with a real estate agent, then they have paid for their services and then some. If I really thought this, I would go with the agent. Do you REALLY think this? Good luck. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 1:23:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ____________________________________ A bad credit score is 600 & below. 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/cc8212f8/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Mon Jul 27 09:45:56 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:45:56 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Message-ID: If you financially need to get rid of this house, then by all means do whatever you can to do so. I'm sorry the 5-day method didn't bring you what you needed. Janet In a message dated 7/27/2009 8:34:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hi Naji, You make a good point about the number of houses similar to mine on MLS. One thing I noticed though is that those houses are either ugly inside or outside, especially the newer ones, which have no character. So it makes me think that I could sell mine for about $245,000 and when you take away the real estate fees i'm still making $15,000 more. There was a house just down the street from me, very similar to mine except not as much curb appeal, that sold in 10 days for $246,000 (asking $249,000). On the other hand, what if things go south and I am sitting on my house? Anyway I have left a message for the highest bidder to give me a call, and will try to see if he will come up. I will be losing money but at least I can cut losses. Thanks for your help. Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: _Naji_ (mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com) To: _'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Personally, I would see if the highest bidder is willing to move up to were you can get rid of this place? If he/she can, then go for it. If not, I would check with the bank to see if they are willing to work something out. I?m not sure how the real estate market is up in Barrie, but if it?s anything like the rest of the world, then anything purchased during the real estate (Last 2-4 years) peak is going to be worth less today. BTW, there are over 88 properties in Barrie below 300K that meet your home? s criteria: _http://tinyurl.com/ls8owk_ (http://tinyurl.com/ls8owk) Compare what you see and then you can decide on listing or not? I would take the highest bid and move on. -Naji ____________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:23 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/abfd8e93/attachment.html From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com Mon Jul 27 10:19:51 2009 From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:19:51 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: <600869B0EEC44B30B1BECEC36B97BC9E@NSKHome><739AD32D468D4394B5503F0A497BE986@NSKHome> Message-ID: Hi Tammy, As I said in my previous post, I personally would try to work with the top 3 bidders and see if you can make things work (either by them moving up or the bank accepting less). If that doesn't work, then make sure you find an aggressive agent in your neighborhood (make sure you interview at least 3 and find out what homes they actually SOLD themselves and not just listed) and list with them, or use a FLAT fee listing service to offer a reasonable commission and do your own aggressive marketing campaign. Again, you may get a buyer within 10 days of listing or you may just sit waiting around for the next buyer. Real estate markets are local and things change from one neighborhood to another and from one week to the next. I'll give you an example of a house we had sold last year in Central Florida: 1. Ran the 5 day sale the first time. Got a highest bidder for 255K (we started at 199,500 and got more than 80 groups of people in the door). Unfortunately, financing fell through 1 week before closing. The next top bidder found another home and was under contract and the third top bidder decided to rent and wait for a while. 2. Ran a second 5 day sale a little over a month later. Top bidder 221K (started at 124,500 this time around), same crap scenario as above 3. Decided to run an AUCTION starting at 224,500K. No one showed up :-( 4. Listed on MLS Flat fee service, did our own marketing and offered 3% Commission. Got a contract within 30 days at 235K 5. All of the above took place in a 5 month period (March through July) That was in the middle of last July. Last week, a similar home (same size, same subdivision, and same floor plan, down the street) to the one above sold for 177K. The bottom line is that each individual's situation is different. If you have to sell quickly, then use the 5-day method and move on or list at an aggressive price and move on when you get an offer, and if you have the luxury of waiting, then wait like everyone else that's "Hoping" to get more than what the market says the home is worth today. Let us know how things turn out. -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:33 AM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hi Naji, You make a good point about the number of houses similar to mine on MLS. One thing I noticed though is that those houses are either ugly inside or outside, especially the newer ones, which have no character. So it makes me think that I could sell mine for about $245,000 and when you take away the real estate fees i'm still making $15,000 more. There was a house just down the street from me, very similar to mine except not as much curb appeal, that sold in 10 days for $246,000 (asking $249,000). On the other hand, what if things go south and I am sitting on my house? Anyway I have left a message for the highest bidder to give me a call, and will try to see if he will come up. I will be losing money but at least I can cut losses. Thanks for your help. Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Personally, I would see if the highest bidder is willing to move up to were you can get rid of this place. If he/she can, then go for it. If not, I would check with the bank to see if they are willing to work something out. I'm not sure how the real estate market is up in Barrie, but if it's anything like the rest of the world, then anything purchased during the real estate (Last 2-4 years) peak is going to be worth less today. BTW, there are over 88 properties in Barrie below 300K that meet your home's criteria: http://tinyurl.com/ls8owk Compare what you see and then you can decide on listing or not. I would take the highest bid and move on. -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:23 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _____ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/b3aa9d7f/attachment.html From tammytarr at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 27 10:22:39 2009 From: tammytarr at sympatico.ca (Tammy) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:22:39 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Janet, Thanks for your input, too. It's not so much for financial reasons as wanting-to-change-career reasons. My job is fairly well-paying in the sense that I did not need to college/university, as I was trained on-the-job. But I can no longer stand it. I am looking for something else but unless I go back to school I certainly won't be getting what I was making. As a result I need to sell to suit what will soon be my new income level. That's where I'm coming from. I kind of knew in the back of my mind that there would be a chance that I would not get as much for the house as I wanted but I was willing to take that risk. The method really does enable you to sell quickly, and indeed not pay real estate fees. I first got the book because I was thinking about flipping houses about a year or so ago, and this method would be fantastic for that kind of transaction. It is good anytime for someone who wants to sell quickly. It is better in a stronger market if you want to sell quickly and make something off it. I never got the impression from the book that it would turn out in the seller's favour each and every time - my impression was that it could go either way, a little over or a little under, but always somewhat close to fair market value. Tammy ----- Original Message ----- From: Janetislight at aol.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale If you financially need to get rid of this house, then by all means do whatever you can to do so. I'm sorry the 5-day method didn't bring you what you needed. Janet In a message dated 7/27/2009 8:34:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hi Naji, You make a good point about the number of houses similar to mine on MLS. One thing I noticed though is that those houses are either ugly inside or outside, especially the newer ones, which have no character. So it makes me think that I could sell mine for about $245,000 and when you take away the real estate fees i'm still making $15,000 more. There was a house just down the street from me, very similar to mine except not as much curb appeal, that sold in 10 days for $246,000 (asking $249,000). On the other hand, what if things go south and I am sitting on my house? Anyway I have left a message for the highest bidder to give me a call, and will try to see if he will come up. I will be losing money but at least I can cut losses. Thanks for your help. Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Personally, I would see if the highest bidder is willing to move up to were you can get rid of this place? If he/she can, then go for it. If not, I would check with the bank to see if they are willing to work something out. I?m not sure how the real estate market is up in Barrie, but if it?s anything like the rest of the world, then anything purchased during the real estate (Last 2-4 years) peak is going to be worth less today. BTW, there are over 88 properties in Barrie below 300K that meet your home?s criteria: http://tinyurl.com/ls8owk Compare what you see and then you can decide on listing or not? I would take the highest bid and move on. -Naji -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:23 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada -------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/5a9d1845/attachment-0001.html From tammytarr at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 27 10:45:44 2009 From: tammytarr at sympatico.ca (Tammy) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:45:44 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: <600869B0EEC44B30B1BECEC36B97BC9E@NSKHome><739AD32D468D4394B5503F0A497BE986@NSKHome> Message-ID: Hi Naji, When you say you listed on MLS Flat fee service, do you mean you went through the Real Estate company called "Flat Fee"? There is a service with that name here in Ontario. Or, are you referring to a seller-controlled advertising? I have never heard here of non-agents being able to advertise through MLS. How is that possible? Tammy ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hi Tammy, As I said in my previous post, I personally would try to work with the top 3 bidders and see if you can make things work (either by them moving up or the bank accepting less). If that doesn't work, then make sure you find an aggressive agent in your neighborhood (make sure you interview at least 3 and find out what homes they actually SOLD themselves and not just listed) and list with them, or use a FLAT fee listing service to offer a reasonable commission and do your own aggressive marketing campaign. Again, you may get a buyer within 10 days of listing or you may just sit waiting around for the next buyer. Real estate markets are local and things change from one neighborhood to another and from one week to the next. I'll give you an example of a house we had sold last year in Central Florida: 1.. Ran the 5 day sale the first time. Got a highest bidder for 255K (we started at 199,500 and got more than 80 groups of people in the door). Unfortunately, financing fell through 1 week before closing. The next top bidder found another home and was under contract and the third top bidder decided to rent and wait for a while. 2.. Ran a second 5 day sale a little over a month later. Top bidder 221K (started at 124,500 this time around), same crap scenario as above 3.. Decided to run an AUCTION starting at 224,500K. No one showed up L 4.. Listed on MLS Flat fee service, did our own marketing and offered 3% Commission. Got a contract within 30 days at 235K 5.. All of the above took place in a 5 month period (March through July) That was in the middle of last July. Last week, a similar home (same size, same subdivision, and same floor plan, down the street) to the one above sold for 177K. The bottom line is that each individual's situation is different. If you have to sell quickly, then use the 5-day method and move on or list at an aggressive price and move on when you get an offer, and if you have the luxury of waiting, then wait like everyone else that's "Hoping" to get more than what the market says the home is worth today. Let us know how things turn out. -Naji ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:33 AM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hi Naji, You make a good point about the number of houses similar to mine on MLS. One thing I noticed though is that those houses are either ugly inside or outside, especially the newer ones, which have no character. So it makes me think that I could sell mine for about $245,000 and when you take away the real estate fees i'm still making $15,000 more. There was a house just down the street from me, very similar to mine except not as much curb appeal, that sold in 10 days for $246,000 (asking $249,000). On the other hand, what if things go south and I am sitting on my house? Anyway I have left a message for the highest bidder to give me a call, and will try to see if he will come up. I will be losing money but at least I can cut losses. Thanks for your help. Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Personally, I would see if the highest bidder is willing to move up to were you can get rid of this place. If he/she can, then go for it. If not, I would check with the bank to see if they are willing to work something out. I'm not sure how the real estate market is up in Barrie, but if it's anything like the rest of the world, then anything purchased during the real estate (Last 2-4 years) peak is going to be worth less today. BTW, there are over 88 properties in Barrie below 300K that meet your home's criteria: http://tinyurl.com/ls8owk Compare what you see and then you can decide on listing or not. I would take the highest bid and move on. -Naji ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:23 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/d2c29344/attachment.html From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com Mon Jul 27 11:00:21 2009 From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:00:21 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: <600869B0EEC44B30B1BECEC36B97BC9E@NSKHome><739AD32D468D4394B5503F0A497BE986@NSKHome> Message-ID: <81E46EA016CC4543A4B34658D8DE12A3@NSKHome> Tammy, There are many companies that offer a flat fee MLS service. Just google flat fee mls and your area and it should come up with a bunch of companies that offer that services. They usually charge anywhere from $99 to $500 or more to list. You can check out http://www.fsbo.com/flat-fee-mls-17/ or any of the searches you find on google. Just do your due diligence when going with any of these companies. Hope this helps. -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:46 AM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hi Naji, When you say you listed on MLS Flat fee service, do you mean you went through the Real Estate company called "Flat Fee"? There is a service with that name here in Ontario. Or, are you referring to a seller-controlled advertising? I have never heard here of non-agents being able to advertise through MLS. How is that possible? Tammy ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hi Tammy, As I said in my previous post, I personally would try to work with the top 3 bidders and see if you can make things work (either by them moving up or the bank accepting less). If that doesn't work, then make sure you find an aggressive agent in your neighborhood (make sure you interview at least 3 and find out what homes they actually SOLD themselves and not just listed) and list with them, or use a FLAT fee listing service to offer a reasonable commission and do your own aggressive marketing campaign. Again, you may get a buyer within 10 days of listing or you may just sit waiting around for the next buyer. Real estate markets are local and things change from one neighborhood to another and from one week to the next. I'll give you an example of a house we had sold last year in Central Florida: 1. Ran the 5 day sale the first time. Got a highest bidder for 255K (we started at 199,500 and got more than 80 groups of people in the door). Unfortunately, financing fell through 1 week before closing. The next top bidder found another home and was under contract and the third top bidder decided to rent and wait for a while. 2. Ran a second 5 day sale a little over a month later. Top bidder 221K (started at 124,500 this time around), same crap scenario as above 3. Decided to run an AUCTION starting at 224,500K. No one showed up :-( 4. Listed on MLS Flat fee service, did our own marketing and offered 3% Commission. Got a contract within 30 days at 235K 5. All of the above took place in a 5 month period (March through July) That was in the middle of last July. Last week, a similar home (same size, same subdivision, and same floor plan, down the street) to the one above sold for 177K. The bottom line is that each individual's situation is different. If you have to sell quickly, then use the 5-day method and move on or list at an aggressive price and move on when you get an offer, and if you have the luxury of waiting, then wait like everyone else that's "Hoping" to get more than what the market says the home is worth today. Let us know how things turn out. -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:33 AM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hi Naji, You make a good point about the number of houses similar to mine on MLS. One thing I noticed though is that those houses are either ugly inside or outside, especially the newer ones, which have no character. So it makes me think that I could sell mine for about $245,000 and when you take away the real estate fees i'm still making $15,000 more. There was a house just down the street from me, very similar to mine except not as much curb appeal, that sold in 10 days for $246,000 (asking $249,000). On the other hand, what if things go south and I am sitting on my house? Anyway I have left a message for the highest bidder to give me a call, and will try to see if he will come up. I will be losing money but at least I can cut losses. Thanks for your help. Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Naji To: 'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days' Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Personally, I would see if the highest bidder is willing to move up to were you can get rid of this place. If he/she can, then go for it. If not, I would check with the bank to see if they are willing to work something out. I'm not sure how the real estate market is up in Barrie, but if it's anything like the rest of the world, then anything purchased during the real estate (Last 2-4 years) peak is going to be worth less today. BTW, there are over 88 properties in Barrie below 300K that meet your home's criteria: http://tinyurl.com/ls8owk Compare what you see and then you can decide on listing or not. I would take the highest bid and move on. -Naji _____ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:23 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hey all, Okay give me your feedback on this. Starting bid - $125,000 Highest bidder - $217,500 In one sense it's good because it's almost $100,000 over my starting bid. On the other hand, I paid $226,000 for the house 2.5 years ago and I was hoping to get $250,000 or thereabouts. I've told the highest bidder that it is less than what I paid for the house and that I would be contacting my bank so see if I can do this and getting back to him in a few days. I was thinking of trying to list on MLS with an agent, I think I could get perhaps $15,000 more (not including Real Estate fees, etc) for this house, but on the other hand I don't want to wait any longer for a buyer; so I wanted to approach the highest bidder and see if he could come up $7000, and then I would be okay with not listing with an agent. What does everyone think? 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Lynn (FL) _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgI D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/e886ed51/attachment.html From skyhighplanning at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 16:04:17 2009 From: skyhighplanning at gmail.com (SKY HIGH) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:04:17 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Problems getting funding? In-Reply-To: <8CBDCFD34BFD196-14CC-A20@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CBDCFD34BFD196-14CC-A20@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Yes Carlos A. Chica Sky High Planning, Inc. 7380 Sand Lake Rd. #500 Orlando, FL 32819 Office: (407) 352-3220 Fax: (407) 738-4816 Cell: (646) 552-0107 skyhighplanning at gmail.com Coming Soon: www.SKYHIGHPLANNING.com "It's kind of Fun to do the Impossible" - Walt Disney On Jul 27, 2009, at 2:14 PM, lhenley676 at aol.com wrote: > Has anyone had a successful 5-day sale, but then your buyer couldn't > get funding? If so, what are you doing to close the deal? Do you > just move on to the second highest bidder. > > Lynn (FL) > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 27 16:52:23 2009 From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca (Parcel Property Investments) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:52:23 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: <8CBDCFD34BFD196-14CC-A20@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hello all, What a drama this is turning out to be! My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in buying the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest bid. Dang! I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not sure I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house ready for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do everything for me. I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves as much work as I think.....anyone?? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com Mon Jul 27 16:56:45 2009 From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:56:45 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: <8CBDCFD34BFD196-14CC-A20@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <9C8DF155E9B64E579E1718CC7393E5AA@NSKHome> Tammy, If you don't want to hassle with it at all, then higher a full service agent... If you still have the energy to do some of the stuff yourself, then go with the flat fee MLS, but make sure you still do your own marketing. -Naji -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:52 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hello all, What a drama this is turning out to be! My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in buying the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest bid. Dang! I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not sure I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house ready for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do everything for me. I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves as much work as I think.....anyone?? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From jcrafor at hotmail.com Mon Jul 27 17:19:51 2009 From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:19:51 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: <8CBDCFD34BFD196-14CC-A20@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: So sorry to hear that. My fingers were crossed for a successful outcome for you. When you do your flat fee listing, be sure that the lister is in the same town you are in, or close by. My lister is in a different metro area, different area code, and people who see the ad have to make that long distance call to get my name and number from him. Make sure he puts your ad in your LOCAL area mls. Do you live close enough that you can show it easily when people call? I'm about 15 minutes away, and if you live there, you need to be able to quickly pick it up a bit before showing it. But you know all that. I'm trying to not miss anything. Put a "for sale" sign with your contact info on your property where it's very visible. I got a key safe from home depot for about $25.00, instead of renting one from my lister at $100. Problem with that is that my local mls won't let him put the fact that there is a key safe on the property even in the list that the agents see. They are surprised when they call me and I tell them about it. My ad is on craigslist, with a sentence, please respond to ad to see, or ask your agent. I also have "co-op eith agents" on the craigslist (and other ) ads. I do not say on any of the craigslist or other internet sites that there is a key safe. Is there a way for you to determine if the person calling and saying he is an agent really is an agent? Our state licensing office has such a site. http://159.87.254.2/publicdatabase/SearchIndividuals.aspx and our local mls has a link on their site to "find an agent" I don't want to give out the code to the safe to just anyone. Things must be looking up a bit here, as there have been several people look at it this past week, and I've showed it 3 times myself. Be careful when showing it yourself. My house is vacant. I leave a note in my residence that I am showing the house at (address) on date to Joe and Mary Smith, phone number xxx-1234. When I see their license plate, I can call my phone and leave a message w/ their plate number. An agent friend said to FOLLOW them, not to lead them--don't get cornered in a room with no way out. I've also had my large dog along with me. Do you have the information necessary to close? if not, go ahead and get it, form a lawyer or a title co, whichever, and be prepared with it. I also have a "Agreement to sell and purchase" paper to present when some calls and says they want to make an offer. What am I missing? If it doesn't sell, I'll probably list it with an agent, but that's a few months away, I think. Best wishes, JCrafor > From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:52:23 -0400 > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Hello all, > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in buying > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest > bid. Dang! > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not sure > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house ready > for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do > everything for me. 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Even so, there are not as many Realtors in Barrie as in other larger communities. That gives you an advantage in that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and confidently. If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, remember that you still will need to do much of the work yourself. If you are considering a full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't have to do the marketing. Best of luck, James Fleming - Realtor Vancouver WA -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hello all, What a drama this is turning out to be! My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in buying the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest bid. Dang! I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not sure I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house ready for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do everything for me. I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves as much work as I think.....anyone?? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From sterbert at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 17:42:49 2009 From: sterbert at yahoo.com (Steven Herbert) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <237593.37394.qm@web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> With Flat-fee listing, hat does "Do your own marketing" entail? The Flat-fee MLS Realtor that I listed with says it puts the info up on all the relevant internet and Realtor sites. I also have a CraigList ad and a Militarybyowner.com ad that I maintain. I figured being on the MLS is quite a bit of its own advertising. Is that a weak assumption? I'd hate to hafta put more money into putting things in print? Steven Homeowner (Tacoma, WA) --- On Mon, 7/27/09, James Fleming wrote: > From: James Fleming > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:20 PM > > Tammy, > > What about the other real buyers?? Have you contacted > them to let them know > that they have a second chance?? Before writing off > the effort that you went > to in your 5-day, I would make those calls.? You had 2 > or 3 other bidders > that seemed interested.? If they have been looking in > the Barrie area and > have discovered for themselves what you described as the > difference between > your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a flame > or two. > > Although I live in the States now, my family is from Emo, > Ontario.? Barrie > is a very Big City compared to Emo.? Even so, there > are not as many Realtors > in Barrie as in other larger communities.? That gives > you an advantage in > that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and > confidently.? > > If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, > remember that you > still will need to do much of the work yourself.? If > you are considering a > full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't > have to do the > marketing.? > > Best of luck, > > James Fleming - Realtor > Vancouver WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho > mein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose > llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property > Investments > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Hello all, > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer > interested in buying > > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his > original highest > bid.? Dang! > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by > Naji...not sure > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting > the house ready > for this open house that I would love at this point for an > agent to do > everything for me.? I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves > as much work as I > think.....anyone?? > > Tammy > Barrie, Ontario > Canada > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > From tammytarr at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 27 17:43:23 2009 From: tammytarr at sympatico.ca (Tammy) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:43:23 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: <8CBDCFD34BFD196-14CC-A20@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hi James, the 2 other real buyers had topped out at bids $216,500 and $212,000 respectively. I paid $226,000 for the house....both of them said Saturday that they would not go beyond that, that is what they were approved for. What would you do? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Fleming" To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Tammy, > > What about the other real buyers? Have you contacted them to let them > know > that they have a second chance? Before writing off the effort that you > went > to in your 5-day, I would make those calls. You had 2 or 3 other bidders > that seemed interested. If they have been looking in the Barrie area and > have discovered for themselves what you described as the difference > between > your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a flame or two. > > Although I live in the States now, my family is from Emo, Ontario. Barrie > is a very Big City compared to Emo. Even so, there are not as many > Realtors > in Barrie as in other larger communities. That gives you an advantage in > that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and confidently. > > If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, remember that > you > still will need to do much of the work yourself. If you are considering a > full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't have to do the > marketing. > > Best of luck, > > James Fleming - Realtor > Vancouver WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho > mein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose > llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Hello all, > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in > buying > > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest > bid. Dang! > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not > sure > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house ready > for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do > everything for me. I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves as much work as I > think.....anyone?? > > Tammy > Barrie, Ontario > Canada > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > From Janetislight at aol.com Mon Jul 27 17:47:55 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:47:55 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Message-ID: Tammy, It sounds to me as if you are in a funk for the moment. Take a day off from it. Don't think about it at all. Then come fresh to it and decide what YOU want to do. It may be the best for your self being to just turn it over to someone else. Lots of positive light headed your way. Janet In a message dated 7/27/2009 3:57:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nkhouri at cfl.rr.com writes: Tammy, If you don't want to hassle with it at all, then higher a full service agent... If you still have the energy to do some of the stuff yourself, then go with the flat fee MLS, but make sure you still do your own marketing. -Naji -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:52 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hello all, What a drama this is turning out to be! My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in buying the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest bid. Dang! I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not sure I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house ready for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do everything for me. I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves as much work as I think.....anyone?? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/f50e72dd/attachment.html From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com Mon Jul 27 17:54:56 2009 From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:54:56 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: <237593.37394.qm@web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <237593.37394.qm@web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <068DDBC31641408C9F4ED8694FFBC4AB@NSKHome> Do your own marketing entails getting your property exposed to as many potential buyers as possible: Craigslist, postlets.com, zillow, trulia.com, google base, hotpads, dothomes, frontdoor, newspaper, flyers to neighborhood and local agents, sign in front yard with brochure box, emails, postcards to potential buyers, plus any and all possible avenues to reach the buyer(s)... With all that though, it doesn't matter how much marketing and advertising you do as the home will not sell if it's not priced right. Top 5 reasons a home doesn?t sell: The Top 5 Reasons A Home Doesn?t Sell: ? Price ? Condition ? Location ? Listing Agent ? Marketing Plan (which includes ease of showing) -Naji -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Steven Herbert Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:43 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale With Flat-fee listing, hat does "Do your own marketing" entail? The Flat-fee MLS Realtor that I listed with says it puts the info up on all the relevant internet and Realtor sites. I also have a CraigList ad and a Militarybyowner.com ad that I maintain. I figured being on the MLS is quite a bit of its own advertising. Is that a weak assumption? I'd hate to hafta put more money into putting things in print? Steven Homeowner (Tacoma, WA) --- On Mon, 7/27/09, James Fleming wrote: > From: James Fleming > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:20 PM > > Tammy, > > What about the other real buyers?? Have you contacted > them to let them know > that they have a second chance?? Before writing off > the effort that you went > to in your 5-day, I would make those calls.? You had 2 > or 3 other bidders > that seemed interested.? If they have been looking in > the Barrie area and > have discovered for themselves what you described as the > difference between > your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a flame > or two. > > Although I live in the States now, my family is from Emo, > Ontario.? Barrie > is a very Big City compared to Emo.? Even so, there > are not as many Realtors > in Barrie as in other larger communities.? That gives > you an advantage in > that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and > confidently.? > > If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, > remember that you > still will need to do much of the work yourself.? If > you are considering a > full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't > have to do the > marketing.? > > Best of luck, > > James Fleming - Realtor > Vancouver WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho > mein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose > llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property > Investments > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Hello all, > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer > interested in buying > > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his > original highest > bid.? Dang! > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by > Naji...not sure > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting > the house ready > for this open house that I would love at this point for an > agent to do > everything for me.? I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves > as much work as I > think.....anyone?? > > Tammy > Barrie, Ontario > Canada > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From Janetislight at aol.com Mon Jul 27 17:58:03 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:58:03 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Message-ID: The MLS is huge. And you need to do additional marketing to get them to focus on your listing. MLS has no advertising and most people looking for a home get an agent. The agent will want their commission from the seller. You need to spread yourself farther out. When people Google homes they don't get MLS, they get realtor.com, homfinder.com, etc. You need to make sure your home is out there everywhere. Maybe your flat fee agent has done this. If I use a realtor, I use full-service, with homes for sale shows on TV and ads in other real estate periodicals. Best of luck with your sale. Janet In a message dated 7/27/2009 4:43:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sterbert at yahoo.com writes: With Flat-fee listing, hat does "Do your own marketing" entail? The Flat-fee MLS Realtor that I listed with says it puts the info up on all the relevant internet and Realtor sites. I also have a CraigList ad and a Militarybyowner.com ad that I maintain. I figured being on the MLS is quite a bit of its own advertising. Is that a weak assumption? I'd hate to hafta put more money into putting things in print? Steven Homeowner (Tacoma, WA) --- On Mon, 7/27/09, James Fleming wrote: > From: James Fleming > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:20 PM > > Tammy, > > What about the other real buyers? Have you contacted > them to let them know > that they have a second chance? Before writing off > the effort that you went > to in your 5-day, I would make those calls. You had 2 > or 3 other bidders > that seemed interested. If they have been looking in > the Barrie area and > have discovered for themselves what you described as the > difference between > your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a flame > or two. > > Although I live in the States now, my family is from Emo, > Ontario. Barrie > is a very Big City compared to Emo. Even so, there > are not as many Realtors > in Barrie as in other larger communities. That gives > you an advantage in > that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and > confidently. > > If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, > remember that you > still will need to do much of the work yourself. If > you are considering a > full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't > have to do the > marketing. > > Best of luck, > > James Fleming - Realtor > Vancouver WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho > mein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose > llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property > Investments > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Hello all, > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer > interested in buying > > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his > original highest > bid. Dang! > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by > Naji...not sure > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting > the house ready > for this open house that I would love at this point for an > agent to do > everything for me. I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves > as much work as I > think.....anyone?? > > Tammy > Barrie, Ontario > Canada > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/86f57d4c/attachment.html From sterbert at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 17:59:21 2009 From: sterbert at yahoo.com (Steven Herbert) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: <068DDBC31641408C9F4ED8694FFBC4AB@NSKHome> Message-ID: <194024.40484.qm@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The FLat-fee Realtor lists at all those sites for me along with others (Realtors can enter w/keybox). I've forgone newspaper ads. How would you know who to send the postcards to? Steven --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Naji wrote: > From: Naji > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:54 PM > > Do your own marketing entails getting your property exposed > to as many > potential buyers as possible: Craigslist, postlets.com, > zillow, trulia.com, > google base, hotpads, dothomes, frontdoor, newspaper, > flyers to neighborhood > and local agents, sign in front yard with brochure box, > emails, postcards to > potential buyers, plus any and all possible avenues to > reach the buyer(s)... > > With all that though, it doesn't matter how much marketing > and advertising > you do as the home will not sell if it's not priced right. > Top 5 reasons a > home doesn?t sell: > > The Top 5 Reasons A Home Doesn?t Sell: > ? Price > ? Condition > ? Location > ? Listing Agent > ? Marketing Plan (which includes ease of showing) > > -Naji > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da > ys.com] On Behalf Of Steven Herbert > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:43 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > With Flat-fee listing, hat does "Do your own marketing" > entail? > > The Flat-fee MLS Realtor that I listed with says it puts > the info up on all > the relevant internet and Realtor sites. I also have a > CraigList ad and a > Militarybyowner.com ad that I maintain. I figured being on > the MLS is quite > a bit of its own advertising. Is that a weak assumption? > I'd hate to hafta > put more money into putting things in print? > > Steven Homeowner > (Tacoma, WA) > > --- On Mon, 7/27/09, James Fleming > wrote: > > > From: James Fleming > > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" > <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:20 PM > > > > Tammy, > > > > What about the other real buyers?? Have you > contacted > > them to let them know > > that they have a second chance?? Before writing off > > the effort that you went > > to in your 5-day, I would make those calls.? You had > 2 > > or 3 other bidders > > that seemed interested.? If they have been looking > in > > the Barrie area and > > have discovered for themselves what you described as > the > > difference between > > your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a > flame > > or two. > > > > Although I live in the States now, my family is from > Emo, > > Ontario.? Barrie > > is a very Big City compared to Emo.? Even so, there > > are not as many Realtors > > in Barrie as in other larger communities.? That > gives > > you an advantage in > > that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly > and > > confidently.? > > > > If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) > firm, > > remember that you > > still will need to do much of the work yourself.? If > > you are considering a > > full service firm, the cost will be higher but you > won't > > have to do the > > marketing.? > > > > Best of luck, > > > > James Fleming - Realtor > > Vancouver WA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > > > 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho > > mein5days.com > > > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose > > llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property > > Investments > > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM > > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > > > Hello all, > > > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not > longer > > interested in buying > > > > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR > his > > original highest > > bid.? Dang! > > > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option > suggested by > > Naji...not sure > > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted > getting > > the house ready > > for this open house that I would love at this point > for an > > agent to do > > everything for me.? I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves > > as much work as I > > think.....anyone?? > > > > Tammy > > Barrie, Ontario > > Canada > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 5-DayForum mailing list > > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 5-DayForum mailing list > > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > > ? ? ? > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > From Janetislight at aol.com Mon Jul 27 18:00:15 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:00:15 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Message-ID: Tammy, $216,000 isn't far from what you paid, and is should cover your existing mortgage unless you over mortgaged your house. I would go to them if you can afford it. Otherwise, list it full service and take a nap. Janet In a message dated 7/27/2009 4:44:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hi James, the 2 other real buyers had topped out at bids $216,500 and $212,000 respectively. I paid $226,000 for the house....both of them said Saturday that they would not go beyond that, that is what they were approved for. What would you do? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Fleming" To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Tammy, > > What about the other real buyers? Have you contacted them to let them > know > that they have a second chance? Before writing off the effort that you > went > to in your 5-day, I would make those calls. You had 2 or 3 other bidders > that seemed interested. If they have been looking in the Barrie area and > have discovered for themselves what you described as the difference > between > your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a flame or two. > > Although I live in the States now, my family is from Emo, Ontario. Barrie > is a very Big City compared to Emo. Even so, there are not as many > Realtors > in Barrie as in other larger communities. That gives you an advantage in > that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and confidently. > > If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, remember that > you > still will need to do much of the work yourself. If you are considering a > full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't have to do the > marketing. > > Best of luck, > > James Fleming - Realtor > Vancouver WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho > mein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose > llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Hello all, > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in > buying > > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest > bid. Dang! > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not > sure > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house ready > for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do > everything for me. I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves as much work as I > think.....anyone?? > > Tammy > Barrie, Ontario > Canada > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/63429256/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Mon Jul 27 18:02:48 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:02:48 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Message-ID: To me the one of the values of full service realtors is that they also have buyers for your home in their data bases. It may be worth it to you or not. It's up to you. Janet In a message dated 7/27/2009 5:00:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sterbert at yahoo.com writes: The FLat-fee Realtor lists at all those sites for me along with others (Realtors can enter w/keybox). I've forgone newspaper ads. How would you know who to send the postcards to? Steven --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Naji wrote: > From: Naji > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:54 PM > > Do your own marketing entails getting your property exposed > to as many > potential buyers as possible: Craigslist, postlets.com, > zillow, trulia.com, > google base, hotpads, dothomes, frontdoor, newspaper, > flyers to neighborhood > and local agents, sign in front yard with brochure box, > emails, postcards to > potential buyers, plus any and all possible avenues to > reach the buyer(s)... > > With all that though, it doesn't matter how much marketing > and advertising > you do as the home will not sell if it's not priced right. > Top 5 reasons a > home doesn?t sell: > > The Top 5 Reasons A Home Doesn?t Sell: > ? Price > ? Condition > ? Location > ? Listing Agent > ? Marketing Plan (which includes ease of showing) > > -Naji > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da > ys.com] On Behalf Of Steven Herbert > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:43 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > With Flat-fee listing, hat does "Do your own marketing" > entail? > > The Flat-fee MLS Realtor that I listed with says it puts > the info up on all > the relevant internet and Realtor sites. I also have a > CraigList ad and a > Militarybyowner.com ad that I maintain. I figured being on > the MLS is quite > a bit of its own advertising. Is that a weak assumption? > I'd hate to hafta > put more money into putting things in print? > > Steven Homeowner > (Tacoma, WA) > > --- On Mon, 7/27/09, James Fleming > wrote: > > > From: James Fleming > > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" > <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:20 PM > > > > Tammy, > > > > What about the other real buyers? Have you > contacted > > them to let them know > > that they have a second chance? Before writing off > > the effort that you went > > to in your 5-day, I would make those calls. You had > 2 > > or 3 other bidders > > that seemed interested. If they have been looking > in > > the Barrie area and > > have discovered for themselves what you described as > the > > difference between > > your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a > flame > > or two. > > > > Although I live in the States now, my family is from > Emo, > > Ontario. Barrie > > is a very Big City compared to Emo. Even so, there > > are not as many Realtors > > in Barrie as in other larger communities. That > gives > > you an advantage in > > that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly > and > > confidently. > > > > If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) > firm, > > remember that you > > still will need to do much of the work yourself. If > > you are considering a > > full service firm, the cost will be higher but you > won't > > have to do the > > marketing. > > > > Best of luck, > > > > James Fleming - Realtor > > Vancouver WA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > > > 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho > > mein5days.com > > > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.c om at mailman.howtose > > llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property > > Investments > > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM > > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > > > Hello all, > > > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not > longer > > interested in buying > > > > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR > his > > original highest > > bid. Dang! > > > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option > suggested by > > Naji...not sure > > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted > getting > > the house ready > > for this open house that I would love at this point > for an > > agent to do > > everything for me. I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves > > as much work as I > > think.....anyone?? > > > > Tammy > > Barrie, Ontario > > Canada > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 5-DayForum mailing list > > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 5-DayForum mailing list > > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/44f07a3d/attachment.html From nkhouri at cfl.rr.com Mon Jul 27 18:07:36 2009 From: nkhouri at cfl.rr.com (Naji) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:07:36 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: <194024.40484.qm@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <068DDBC31641408C9F4ED8694FFBC4AB@NSKHome> <194024.40484.qm@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You can pull the mailing addresses of any area by demographics... Just google for such service. Of course, this does cost money :-) -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da ys.com] On Behalf Of Steven Herbert Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:59 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale The FLat-fee Realtor lists at all those sites for me along with others (Realtors can enter w/keybox). I've forgone newspaper ads. How would you know who to send the postcards to? Steven --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Naji wrote: > From: Naji > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:54 PM > > Do your own marketing entails getting your property exposed > to as many > potential buyers as possible: Craigslist, postlets.com, > zillow, trulia.com, > google base, hotpads, dothomes, frontdoor, newspaper, > flyers to neighborhood > and local agents, sign in front yard with brochure box, > emails, postcards to > potential buyers, plus any and all possible avenues to > reach the buyer(s)... > > With all that though, it doesn't matter how much marketing > and advertising > you do as the home will not sell if it's not priced right. > Top 5 reasons a > home doesn?t sell: > > The Top 5 Reasons A Home Doesn?t Sell: > ? Price > ? Condition > ? Location > ? Listing Agent > ? Marketing Plan (which includes ease of showing) > > -Naji > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5da > ys.com] On Behalf Of Steven Herbert > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:43 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > With Flat-fee listing, hat does "Do your own marketing" > entail? > > The Flat-fee MLS Realtor that I listed with says it puts > the info up on all > the relevant internet and Realtor sites. I also have a > CraigList ad and a > Militarybyowner.com ad that I maintain. I figured being on > the MLS is quite > a bit of its own advertising. Is that a weak assumption? > I'd hate to hafta > put more money into putting things in print? > > Steven Homeowner > (Tacoma, WA) > > --- On Mon, 7/27/09, James Fleming > wrote: > > > From: James Fleming > > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" > <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:20 PM > > > > Tammy, > > > > What about the other real buyers?? Have you > contacted > > them to let them know > > that they have a second chance?? Before writing off > > the effort that you went > > to in your 5-day, I would make those calls.? You had > 2 > > or 3 other bidders > > that seemed interested.? If they have been looking > in > > the Barrie area and > > have discovered for themselves what you described as > the > > difference between > > your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a > flame > > or two. > > > > Although I live in the States now, my family is from > Emo, > > Ontario.? Barrie > > is a very Big City compared to Emo.? Even so, there > > are not as many Realtors > > in Barrie as in other larger communities.? That > gives > > you an advantage in > > that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly > and > > confidently.? > > > > If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) > firm, > > remember that you > > still will need to do much of the work yourself.? If > > you are considering a > > full service firm, the cost will be higher but you > won't > > have to do the > > marketing.? > > > > Best of luck, > > > > James Fleming - Realtor > > Vancouver WA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > > > 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho > > mein5days.com > > > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose > > llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property > > Investments > > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM > > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > > > Hello all, > > > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not > longer > > interested in buying > > > > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR > his > > original highest > > bid.? Dang! > > > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option > suggested by > > Naji...not sure > > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted > getting > > the house ready > > for this open house that I would love at this point > for an > > agent to do > > everything for me.? I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves > > as much work as I > > think.....anyone?? > > > > Tammy > > Barrie, Ontario > > Canada > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 5-DayForum mailing list > > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 5-DayForum mailing list > > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > > ? ? ? > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 18:57:22 2009 From: jamesfleming.realestate at gmail.com (James Fleming) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:57:22 -0700 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: <8CBDCFD34BFD196-14CC-A20@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7421D4DFBFE848DBBEC9C16C11E44AD0@jamesfleming> Tammy, I would let them both know that the high bidder did not perform on his bid and therefore they have a second chance. Give them a day or two to call you with their best offers. Let them know that you will select the best offer from the two. If it is not enough to pay your mortgage, you may have to bring money to the closing table to complete the transaction. If you don't have enough money, you may have to work out a short sale with your lender(s). Your 5-day is not over yet. :o) James Fleming -- Realtor Vancouver WA -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 2:43 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hi James, the 2 other real buyers had topped out at bids $216,500 and $212,000 respectively. I paid $226,000 for the house....both of them said Saturday that they would not go beyond that, that is what they were approved for. What would you do? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Fleming" To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Tammy, > > What about the other real buyers? Have you contacted them to let them > know > that they have a second chance? Before writing off the effort that you > went > to in your 5-day, I would make those calls. You had 2 or 3 other bidders > that seemed interested. If they have been looking in the Barrie area and > have discovered for themselves what you described as the difference > between > your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a flame or two. > > Although I live in the States now, my family is from Emo, Ontario. Barrie > is a very Big City compared to Emo. Even so, there are not as many > Realtors > in Barrie as in other larger communities. That gives you an advantage in > that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and confidently. > > If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, remember that > you > still will need to do much of the work yourself. If you are considering a > full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't have to do the > marketing. > > Best of luck, > > James Fleming - Realtor > Vancouver WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho > mein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose > llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Hello all, > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in > buying > > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest > bid. Dang! > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not > sure > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house ready > for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do > everything for me. I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves as much work as I > think.....anyone?? > > Tammy > Barrie, Ontario > Canada > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From artchr61 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 17:02:29 2009 From: artchr61 at yahoo.com (Leslie Michaels) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] I'm giving this a try... Message-ID: <185077.13774.qm@web80602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My husband bought your book and we're going to give this a try to sell our house. Are there any success stories out there? I am in the Chicago area. I have placed my ad following all the rules, so hopefully I will be successful!? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/9e7b5109/attachment.html From artchr61 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 17:46:22 2009 From: artchr61 at yahoo.com (Leslie Michaels) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: References: <8CBDCFD34BFD196-14CC-A20@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <153896.69453.qm@web80605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am doing things just the opposite of you, Tammy. I have had my house listed with a flat fee MLS for the past 3 months?with about 8 showings and no offers. My impression has been that realtors might discourage buyers from looking at this type of home. I have been very discouraged with the process. I have no problem allowing realtors into my home to show it and I have put a lock box on my front door to make it easier. Unfortunately, there have been no realtors from my own town that have shown my house which leads me to believe that since we're not playing by their rules,?realtors choose not to join in. I may be wrong about that, but I'm trying the 5 day sale this weekend regardless.?Is there anyone out there from the Chicago area who has tried this recently? Leslie ________________________________ From: James Fleming To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:20:34 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Tammy, What about the other real buyers?? Have you contacted them to let them know that they have a second chance?? Before writing off the effort that you went to in your 5-day, I would make those calls.? You had 2 or 3 other bidders that seemed interested.? If they have been looking in the Barrie area and have discovered for themselves what you described as the difference between your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a flame or two. Although I live in the States now, my family is from Emo, Ontario.? Barrie is a very Big City compared to Emo.? Even so, there are not as many Realtors in Barrie as in other larger communities.? That gives you an advantage in that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and confidently.? If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, remember that you still will need to do much of the work yourself.? If you are considering a full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't have to do the marketing.? Best of luck, James Fleming - Realtor Vancouver WA -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hello all, What a drama this is turning out to be! My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in buying the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest bid.? Dang! I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not sure I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house ready for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do everything for me.? I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves as much work as I think.....anyone?? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090727/9ac2bc7d/attachment.html From barks4444 at comcast.net Mon Jul 27 17:50:28 2009 From: barks4444 at comcast.net (Bill Barks) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:50:28 -0700 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale References: <8CBDCFD34BFD196-14CC-A20@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <02ad01ca0f04$41d1ba30$6801a8c0@FAMILYROOM> If you have offers that close --take them! bird in hand worth 2 in the bush!!!! In this market --you are very fortunate ---I'd say your sale worked like a champ. Kind Regards, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tammy" To: "How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > Hi James, > > the 2 other real buyers had topped out at bids $216,500 and $212,000 > respectively. I paid $226,000 for the house....both of them said Saturday > that they would not go beyond that, that is what they were approved for. > What would you do? > > Tammy > Barrie, Ontario > Canada > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Fleming" > To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" > <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > >> >> Tammy, >> >> What about the other real buyers? Have you contacted them to let them >> know >> that they have a second chance? Before writing off the effort that you >> went >> to in your 5-day, I would make those calls. You had 2 or 3 other bidders >> that seemed interested. If they have been looking in the Barrie area and >> have discovered for themselves what you described as the difference >> between >> your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a flame or two. >> >> Although I live in the States now, my family is from Emo, Ontario. >> Barrie >> is a very Big City compared to Emo. Even so, there are not as many >> Realtors >> in Barrie as in other larger communities. That gives you an advantage in >> that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and confidently. >> >> If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, remember that >> you >> still will need to do much of the work yourself. If you are considering >> a >> full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't have to do the >> marketing. >> >> Best of luck, >> >> James Fleming - Realtor >> Vancouver WA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho >> mein5days.com >> [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose >> llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM >> To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >> Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale >> >> Hello all, >> >> What a drama this is turning out to be! >> >> My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in >> buying >> >> the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest >> bid. Dang! >> >> I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not >> sure >> I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house >> ready >> for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do >> everything for me. I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves as much work as I >> think.....anyone?? >> >> Tammy >> Barrie, Ontario >> Canada >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 5-DayForum mailing list >> 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >> http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum >> > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From BarrettAI at aol.com Sun Jul 26 15:24:14 2009 From: BarrettAI at aol.com (BarrettAI at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:24:14 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Convinced, but ex-wife isn't Message-ID: David: 1. You disclose to all that no one is bound by their bid - nor you the seller - until there is agreement and a contract is written. Real estate contracts are subject to the "statute of frauds" meaning they have to be in witting in order to be valid and binding. Also, if someone sued, what would be their "damages?" 2. Since the 5 Day Sale method is primarily a direct sale that often does not involve real estate agents, only those who have participated and bid on the property know if it went under contract or not. Unlike a Realtor using the MLS to list a property, there will be no history or record of the "pricing." Finally, you can always tell anyone who asks that you didn't get the price you need, it was not an "absolute sale," and that your going back to the traditional methods of selling a property. 3. Have your wife visit _www.AuctionBySeller.com_ (http://www.AuctionBySeller.com) and watch the video and review the case studies. Kyle Cascioli Real Estate Professor _www.AuctionBySeller.com_ (http://www.AuctionBySeller.com) In a message dated 7/25/2009 2:58:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, david-richardson at comcast.net writes: Guys, I am convinced that this will work, but I have a problem. My ex-wife and I have had our house on the market for two years with no bona fide offers. We started it out at $1,150,000 and have dropped it to $849,900 and still nothing. We are in one of the most desirable areas in Nashville, one of the least-distressed areas in the country. I want to have a 5-day sale, and she wants to drop the listing price to $750,000. Her objections go like this: 1. What if the bidding tops out under her "drop-dead" price (725,000), and I have to tell the high bidder it's not high enough? Then they sue us. What then? 2. Same as the first one, without the lawsuit. Now we have "poisoned the waters" and no one will come near $725,000. What then? 3. She's never heard of this method, and neither has a real estate broker acquaintance. Any advice? David Richardson _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323048x1201367 271/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgI D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tammy ----- Original Message ----- From: _Parcel Property Investments_ (mailto:ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca) To: _How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] Why not Sunday? Hi Naji, Sunday is the Sabbath for me, and I do not transact business on Sundays. It is based on the on the Word which says, "Six days shalt thou do they work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed." (Exodus 23:12). See Isaiah 58:13-14 for some of the powerful promises to those that obey the Sabbath Day principle. I am a Christian and I try to follow this instruction as best I can within the structure of modern North American society. Now I am going to go sort my bidding list from greatest to least...update you soon! God Bless, Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: _Naji_ (mailto:nkhouri at cfl.rr.com) To: _'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Canadian 5-Day Sale...addendum Tammy, Out of curiosity, why Friday & Saturday for the open house and not Saturday & Sunday? -Naji ____________________________________ From: _5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+nkhouri=cfl.rr.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:33 PM To: _5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Subject: [5-DayForum] Canadian 5-Day Sale...addendum I forgot to mention, people can't believe the price and people are responding very positively when I explain the bidding process. Lots of positive reaction! I've included my info in this posting. The "Short House Description" will be by each phone for my helpers to use as a reference. I use it myself when fielding calls and emails. The "Quick Description" and "Detailed Description" is what potential buyers will receive. Oh, I forgot to mention, I was having trouble getting enough people to help, so I offered to hire people to help me. I am paying them $10/hr CDN to do the things described in the book by Mr. Effros. I also provide lunch for them. I decided to clear out most of my house so most of the rooms are empty. *whew!* what a process, but it will make the move easier when that time comes.... Feedback welcome. 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One of my realtor friends said that he has sellers refusing to sell their houses to certain people because the realtor told their clients to drive to hard a bargain and act like they were doing the seller a favor. I'm not saying ALL. And never intended it that way. But it IS out there. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2009 2:35:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jill at holeinonehomes.com writes: Ok I can't stand to not respond. I read your previous message and its unfortunate that you choose to attack realtors. I will quote you, "Or is this method not working as well due to the sharks that real estate agents have turned buyers into in the current economy." Realtors are not responsible for turning buyers into sharks. Any educated or for that matter any uneducated person just needs to turn on the evening news! The media sensationalizes everything. I'm afraid you overstate a realtors ability to influence people. The numbers are the numbers. Banks loaned people money that had no business buying a house. I just looked up a house for a client and the sellers borrowed 100 percent. They are now in default. I am a realtor and an investor. Bill's method doesn't work in this market unless you are ready and prepared to take a loss or less than you expect. My sister just tried the 5 day method. I encouraged her and told her it sounded assume and exciting and also if it doesn't work your house will be ready to go either way. I read the book and helped her at the open house during the sale. Her result was a total BUST. She did everything by the book. For her $500K home the high bid was $375K. She then listed the property for $515K and it sold in two weeks for $495K. Explain that one! As with any profession there will be bad apples. Please don't through all realtors in the same basket, someday you may need one! 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In-Reply-To: <185077.13774.qm@web80602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <185077.13774.qm@web80602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CBDD94388CC3AE-F78-2D7@webmail-dx09.sysops.aol.com> Check out the case studies and ?video on www.AuctionBySeller.com Kyle The Real Estate Professor www.AuctionBySeller.com -----Original Message----- From: Leslie Michaels To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 4:02 pm Subject: [5-DayForum] I'm giving this a try... My husband bought your book and we're going to give this a try to sell our house. Are there any success stories out there? I am in the Chicago area. I have placed my ad following all the rules, so hopefully I will be successful!? _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hi James, the 2 other real buyers had topped out at bids $216,500 and $212,000 respectively.? I paid $226,000 for the house....both of them said Saturday that they would not go beyond that, that is what they were approved for. What would you do? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Fleming" To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Tammy, > > What about the other real buyers?? Have you contacted them to let them > know > that they have a second chance?? Before writing off the effort that you > went > to in your 5-day, I would make those calls.? You had 2 or 3 other bidders > that seemed interested.? If they have been looking in the Barrie area and > have discovered for themselves what you described as the difference > between > your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a flame or two. > > Although I live in the States now, my family is from Emo, Ontario.? Barrie > is a very Big City compared to Emo.? Even so, there are not as many > Realtors > in Barrie as in other larger communities.? That gives you an advantage in > that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and confidently. > > If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, remember that > you > still will need to do much of the work yourself.? If you are considering a > full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't have to do the > marketing. > > Best of luck, > > James Fleming - Realtor > Vancouver WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho > mein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose > llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Hello all, > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in > buying > > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest > bid.? Dang! > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not > sure > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house ready > for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do > everything for me.? I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves as much work as I > think.....anyone?? > > Tammy > Barrie, Ontario > Canada > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090728/5cada2b7/attachment.html From gnoel88 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 28 16:00:57 2009 From: gnoel88 at yahoo.com (Gary Noel) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] I'm giving this a try... In-Reply-To: <8CBDD94388CC3AE-F78-2D7@webmail-dx09.sysops.aol.com> References: <185077.13774.qm@web80602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8CBDD94388CC3AE-F78-2D7@webmail-dx09.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <25602.68935.qm@web59501.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Kyle, what are we supposed to look at here? Gary ________________________________ From: "barrettai at aol.com" To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:15:24 AM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] I'm giving this a try... Check out the case studies and ?video on www.AuctionBySeller.com Kyle The Real Estate Professor www.AuctionBySeller.com -----Original Message----- From: Leslie Michaels To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 4:02 pm Subject: [5-DayForum] I'm giving this a try... My husband bought your book and we're going to give this a try to sell our house. Are there any success stories out there? I am in the Chicago area. I have placed my ad following all the rules, so hopefully I will be successful!? _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090728/7f6c8ca8/attachment.html From jcrafor at hotmail.com Wed Jul 29 15:01:42 2009 From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:01:42 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] Why do people wait to get financing? In-Reply-To: <8CBDD946A246426-F78-2E0@webmail-dx09.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CBDD946A246426-F78-2E0@webmail-dx09.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Why do people wait until the last minute to get financing? An older couple seemed to really like my house, and said they would try to figure out what they could afford. They have been looking for a few weeks already, by the time they saw mine. When I decided to have an open house, I called to let them know, and she said they had an appointment to see about getting a mortgage on Friday, still a few days in the future. I thought that was wonderful, they are going to make an offer on my house. Then I got to wondering why they didn't set the appointment for earlier this week (they saw it late last week), or, since they are seriously looking, WHY didn't they do it already, and have that information at hand? Why do people wait? Don't MOST people get at least pre-qualified in the early stages of looking? They need to have a goood idea of what they can afford. Is she pulling my leg? Are they going to make an offer? Thanks, JCrafor _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090729/1422eb7a/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Wed Jul 29 15:47:19 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:47:19 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] Why do people wait to get financing? Message-ID: An older couple may not be up on the way of things these days. No one got pre-qualified "back when." I think they are probably serious since they set the appt. Janet In a message dated 7/29/2009 2:03:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jcrafor at hotmail.com writes: Why do people wait until the last minute to get financing? An older couple seemed to really like my house, and said they would try to figure out what they could afford. They have been looking for a few weeks already, by the time they saw mine. When I decided to have an open house, I called to let them know, and she said they had an appointment to see about getting a mortgage on Friday, still a few days in the future. I thought that was wonderful, they are going to make an offer on my house. Then I got to wondering why they didn't set the appointment for earlier this week (they saw it late last week), or, since they are seriously looking, WHY didn't they do it already, and have that information at hand? Why do people wait? Don't MOST people get at least pre-qualified in the early stages of looking? They need to have a goood idea of what they can afford. Is she pulling my leg? Are they going to make an offer? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090729/bd146b63/attachment.html From stevenorris at cableone.net Tue Jul 28 10:00:23 2009 From: stevenorris at cableone.net (Steve Norris) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:00:23 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale In-Reply-To: <153896.69453.qm@web80605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8CBDCFD34BFD196-14CC-A20@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com> <153896.69453.qm@web80605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <76D095A5F0344D5EA392C38B7A604F14@STEVER195UAVNZ> Hi Leslie, >From a Realtor perspective, a Flat Fee MLS company is simply a different model. It wouldn't preclude the vast majority of agents from showing your home. Granted, there are a few, but I think that would be a significant minority. There are three reasons I might suggest you aren't getting agent showings. 1. You aren't offering the same compensation to the buyer agent that your competition is. A buyer averages looking at 10 homes before they buy. If an agent can find 10-12 homes that will be suitable for a buyer that pay x commission, why would (s)he bother with a home that pays less for the same work? In a market that is tight with inventory, an agent might have fewer homes to show and then wouldn't have the luxury of excluding suitable homes, but in the current environment there are LOTS of homes to show any buyer. 2. Since you are using a flat fee service, your home is not being promoted to agents. Again, with so much inventory available, even the most diligent of agents won't be able to preview all of the houses that are on the market. In order to sell your house once, it really has to be sold twice - once to the agent community to get them to show it and then to the buyer. If it isn't getting promoted directly to active agents, it might be getting overlooked among all the other inventory. 3. You're overpriced. If the agent community is aware of your house but not showing it, there are better values available in the market and those are the houses getting shown. A house with a high probability of selling is always going to get shown before a house with a low probability of selling and this is a value driven market. There may be other factors particular to your situation, but as a general rule, I would suggest you confirm you are well positioned within the three above areas. Best of success, Steve Norris -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+stevenorris=cableone.net at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days .com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+stevenorris=cableone.net at mailman.howtosellyourhom ein5days.com] On Behalf of Leslie Michaels Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:46 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale I am doing things just the opposite of you, Tammy. I have had my house listed with a flat fee MLS for the past 3 months with about 8 showings and no offers. My impression has been that realtors might discourage buyers from looking at this type of home. I have been very discouraged with the process. I have no problem allowing realtors into my home to show it and I have put a lock box on my front door to make it easier. Unfortunately, there have been no realtors from my own town that have shown my house which leads me to believe that since we're not playing by their rules, realtors choose not to join in. I may be wrong about that, but I'm trying the 5 day sale this weekend regardless. Is there anyone out there from the Chicago area who has tried this recently? Leslie ________________________________ From: James Fleming To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:20:34 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Tammy, What about the other real buyers? Have you contacted them to let them know that they have a second chance? Before writing off the effort that you went to in your 5-day, I would make those calls. You had 2 or 3 other bidders that seemed interested. If they have been looking in the Barrie area and have discovered for themselves what you described as the difference between your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a flame or two. Although I live in the States now, my family is from Emo, Ontario. Barrie is a very Big City compared to Emo. Even so, there are not as many Realtors in Barrie as in other larger communities. That gives you an advantage in that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and confidently. If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, remember that you still will need to do much of the work yourself. If you are considering a full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't have to do the marketing. Best of luck, James Fleming - Realtor Vancouver WA -----Original Message----- From: 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho mein5days.com [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose llyourhomein5days.com ] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Hello all, What a drama this is turning out to be! My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in buying the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest bid. Dang! I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not sure I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house ready for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do everything for me. I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves as much work as I think.....anyone?? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum From vloveland at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 12:21:56 2009 From: vloveland at gmail.com (Victoria Loveland) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:21:56 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 28, Issue 33 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tammy, I'm sorry your bidder backed out! I tried the 5 day for the first time in Oracle AZ, I've run it 3 times since then. Doing one now, and I'm a bit nervous, but I felt you should know about the house in Oracle. It had been on the market for 10 months, we were out of state, we held the 5 day sale, but because the community was both small and connected the bidding was sabatoged. However, after we left town our agent who had the home previous said that people were beating down his door to buy the home. We ended up with 3 buyers, 1 didn't qualify, 2 did qualify and paid market and 3 had cash and was hoping that 2 didn't qualify! So the home did sell, but I don't think it would have if we had not created a buzz around it. Hope this helps, Vicki On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:00 AM, < 5-dayforum-request at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> wrote: > Send 5-DayForum mailing list submissions to > 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > 5-dayforum-request at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > 5-dayforum-owner at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of 5-DayForum digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: I'm giving this a try... (barrettai at aol.com) > 2. Re: Outcome of 5-Day Sale (barrettai at aol.com) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: barrettai at aol.com > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:15:24 -0400 > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] I'm giving this a try... > Check out the case studies and video on www.AuctionBySeller.com > > Kyle > The Real Estate Professor > www.AuctionBySeller.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leslie Michaels > To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 4:02 pm > Subject: [5-DayForum] I'm giving this a try... > > My husband bought your book and we're going to give this a try to sell > our house. Are there any success stories out there? I am in the Chicago > area. I have placed my ad following all the rules, so hopefully I will be > successful!? > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.comhttp://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: barrettai at aol.com > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:16:48 -0400 > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > Given the state of the market I'd say you did pretty well and should take > the deal. > > Kyle > www.AuctionBySeller.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janetislight at aol.com > To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 5:00 pm > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Tammy, > > $216,000 isn't far from what you paid, and is should cover your existing > mortgage unless you over mortgaged your house. I would go to them if you > can afford it. Otherwise, list it full service and take a nap. > > Janet > > > In a message dated 7/27/2009 4:44:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: > > Hi James, > > the 2 other real buyers had topped out at bids $216,500 and $212,000 > respectively. I paid $226,000 for the house....both of them said Saturday > that they would not go beyond that, that is what they were approved for. > What would you do? > > Tammy > Barrie, Ontario > Canada > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Fleming" > To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" > <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > > > > > Tammy, > > > > What about the other real buyers? Have you contacted them to let them > > know > > that they have a second chance? Before writing off the effort that you > > went > > to in your 5-day, I would make those calls. You had 2 or 3 other bidders > > that seemed interested. If they have been looking in the Barrie area and > > have discovered for themselves what you described as the difference > > between > > your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a flame or two. > > > > Although I live in the States now, my family is from Emo, Ontario. > Barrie > > is a very Big City compared to Emo. Even so, there are not as many > > Realtors > > in Barrie as in other larger communities. That gives you an advantage in > > that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and confidently. > > > > If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, remember that > > you > > still will need to do much of the work yourself. If you are considering > a > > full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't have to do the > > marketing. > > > > Best of luck, > > > > James Fleming - Realtor > > Vancouver WA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > > 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate= > gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho > > mein5days.com > > [ > mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose<5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose?> > > llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments > > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM > > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > > > Hello all, > > > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in > > buying > > > > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest > > bid. Dang! > > > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not > > sure > > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house > ready > > for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do > > everything for me. I wonder if FSBO by MLS involves as much work as I > > think.....anyone?? > > > > Tammy > > Barrie, Ontario > > Canada > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 5-DayForum mailing list > > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 5-DayForum mailing list > > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > > > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > ------------------------------ > *A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! > * > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.comhttp://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > > _______________________________________________ > 5-DayForum mailing list > 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com > http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090728/0ad3e6c8/attachment.html From mosses5 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 29 16:44:01 2009 From: mosses5 at sbcglobal.net (Leslie Goldberg) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] feedback Message-ID: <970821.93769.qm@web80601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm trying the 5 day sale this weekend. I put my ad in the 3 widely published newspapers in the Chicagoland area?and on Craigslist. I listed my home for about half of what it's worth. In 2 of the papers the ad had to go in for a week, from Monday through Sunday. So, here it is Wednesday, and I've had 2 phone calls, 1 email and not too much positive feedback. Should I be worried?? I don't think that lowering the price would make any difference since most people in this area aren't looking in that low of a price point. People might actually think that there's something wrong with my house for it to be listed so low. My house is worth about 525,000 and I listed it at 249,500 or best reasonable offer. Any thoughts? Leslie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090729/83065e95/attachment.html From ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 29 17:48:00 2009 From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca (Parcel Property Investments) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:48:00 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 28, Issue 33 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Vicki, we'll see how it goes! Tammy ----- Original Message ----- From: Victoria Loveland To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] 5-DayForum Digest, Vol 28, Issue 33 Hi Tammy, I'm sorry your bidder backed out! I tried the 5 day for the first time in Oracle AZ, I've run it 3 times since then. Doing one now, and I'm a bit nervous, but I felt you should know about the house in Oracle. It had been on the market for 10 months, we were out of state, we held the 5 day sale, but because the community was both small and connected the bidding was sabatoged. However, after we left town our agent who had the home previous said that people were beating down his door to buy the home. We ended up with 3 buyers, 1 didn't qualify, 2 did qualify and paid market and 3 had cash and was hoping that 2 didn't qualify! So the home did sell, but I don't think it would have if we had not created a buzz around it. Hope this helps, Vicki On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:00 AM, <5-dayforum-request at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> wrote: Send 5-DayForum mailing list submissions to 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 5-dayforum-request at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com You can reach the person managing the list at 5-dayforum-owner at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of 5-DayForum digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: I'm giving this a try... (barrettai at aol.com) 2. Re: Outcome of 5-Day Sale (barrettai at aol.com) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: barrettai at aol.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:15:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] I'm giving this a try... Check out the case studies and video on www.AuctionBySeller.com Kyle The Real Estate Professor www.AuctionBySeller.com -----Original Message----- From: Leslie Michaels To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 4:02 pm Subject: [5-DayForum] I'm giving this a try... My husband bought your book and we're going to give this a try to sell our house. Are there any success stories out there? I am in the Chicago area. I have placed my ad following all the rules, so hopefully I will be successful!? _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: barrettai at aol.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:16:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Given the state of the market I'd say you did pretty well and should take the deal. Kyle www.AuctionBySeller.com -----Original Message----- From: Janetislight at aol.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 5:00 pm Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale Tammy, $216,000 isn't far from what you paid, and is should cover your existing mortgage unless you over mortgaged your house. I would go to them if you can afford it. Otherwise, list it full service and take a nap. Janet In a message dated 7/27/2009 4:44:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tammytarr at sympatico.ca writes: Hi James, the 2 other real buyers had topped out at bids $216,500 and $212,000 respectively. I paid $226,000 for the house....both of them said Saturday that they would not go beyond that, that is what they were approved for. What would you do? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Fleming" To: "'How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days'" <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Tammy, > > What about the other real buyers? Have you contacted them to let them > know > that they have a second chance? Before writing off the effort that you > went > to in your 5-day, I would make those calls. You had 2 or 3 other bidders > that seemed interested. If they have been looking in the Barrie area and > have discovered for themselves what you described as the difference > between > your house and other comparables, you may re-kindle a flame or two. > > Although I live in the States now, my family is from Emo, Ontario. Barrie > is a very Big City compared to Emo. Even so, there are not as many > Realtors > in Barrie as in other larger communities. That gives you an advantage in > that you will be able to narrow your choices quickly and confidently. > > If you are considering a flat fee (limited service) firm, remember that > you > still will need to do much of the work yourself. If you are considering a > full service firm, the cost will be higher but you won't have to do the > marketing. > > Best of luck, > > James Fleming - Realtor > Vancouver WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: > 5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtosellyourho > mein5days.com > [mailto:5-dayforum-bounces+jamesfleming.realestate=gmail.com at mailman.howtose > llyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Parcel Property Investments > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:52 PM > To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days > Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] Outcome of 5-Day Sale > > Hello all, > > What a drama this is turning out to be! > > My highest bidder just phoned and said he is not longer interested in > buying > > the house, at all, for either my purchase price, OR his original highest > bid. Dang! > > I am considering doing the flat fee MLS option suggested by Naji...not > sure > I want to deal with the hassle...I am so exhausted getting the house ready > for this open house that I would love at this point for an agent to do > everything for me. 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I put my ad in the 3 widely published newspapers in the Chicagoland area and on Craigslist. I listed my home for about half of what it's worth. In 2 of the papers the ad had to go in for a week, from Monday through Sunday. So, here it is Wednesday, and I've had 2 phone calls, 1 email and not too much positive feedback. Should I be worried? I don't think that lowering the price would make any difference since most people in this area aren't looking in that low of a price point. People might actually think that there's something wrong with my house for it to be listed so low. My house is worth about 525,000 and I listed it at 249,500 or best reasonable offer. Any thoughts? 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I had 5000 flyers sent around which brought well over 100 phone calls (lost track after 80) and my internet ad only generated about 20 responses, even though i'd paid about $85 to have it put on the "top ads" section of the internet, so that it would have more exposure. It costs though, (for me, just under $1000 CDN) but not nearly as much as paying a Realtor. As the book says, if you don't have 25 by Friday night, call everyone back and see you are going to re-schedule it. Then get those flyers out there! Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Janetislight at aol.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] feedback Leslie, From what I've see on here, the most responses have come from hand made signs all over the place, I did 20, and flyers send through a mailing list. I received nothing from Craig's List, and 2 from the paper. On CL, the ad just gets pushed down so fast, people do go that far looking. The paper is almost the same, with an overwhelming amount of open houses listed each week. You are doing far less marketing than a realtor would. I would suggest you cancel, re-gather and try again. This is JUST my opinion. Janet In a message dated 7/29/2009 4:43:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mosses5 at sbcglobal.net writes: I'm trying the 5 day sale this weekend. I put my ad in the 3 widely published newspapers in the Chicagoland area and on Craigslist. I listed my home for about half of what it's worth. In 2 of the papers the ad had to go in for a week, from Monday through Sunday. So, here it is Wednesday, and I've had 2 phone calls, 1 email and not too much positive feedback. Should I be worried? I don't think that lowering the price would make any difference since most people in this area aren't looking in that low of a price point. 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090729/15139d13/attachment.html From artchr61 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 18:25:52 2009 From: artchr61 at yahoo.com (Leslie Michaels) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] feedback to Leslie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <171824.63675.qm@web80606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ok, but is that what is written in Bill's book? I just spent over 500.00 in advertising and now you're telling me that doesn't work and I need to do something different? Where did you distribute the flyers? Do you put up signs at the grocery store or shopping malls? Are they drive by type of signs with your phone number? According to Bill's book, you're supposed to advertise in the papers, and now you're telling me that the newspapers are useless?! Aargh! Thanks for the input! Leslie ________________________________ From: Parcel Property Investments To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:57:11 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] feedback to Leslie Hi Leslie, I agree with Janet.? I had 5000 flyers sent around which brought well over 100 phone calls (lost track after 80) and my internet ad only generated about 20 responses, even though i'd paid about $85 to have it put on the "top ads" section of the internet, so that it would have more exposure.? It costs though, (for me, just under $1000 CDN) but not nearly as much as paying a Realtor.? As the book says, if you don't have 25 by Friday night, call everyone back and see you are going to re-schedule it.? Then get those flyers out there!? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- >From: Janetislight at aol.com >To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:49 PM >Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] feedback > >Leslie, > >From what I've see on here, the most responses have come from hand made signs all over the place, I did 20, and flyers send through a mailing list.? I received nothing from Craig's List, and 2 from the paper.? On CL, the ad just gets pushed down so fast, people do go that far looking.? The paper is almost the same, with an overwhelming amount of open houses listed each week.? You are doing far less marketing than a realtor would.? I would suggest you cancel, re-gather and try again.? This is JUST my opinion. > >Janet > > >In a message dated 7/29/2009 4:43:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mosses5 at sbcglobal.net writes: >I'm trying the 5 day sale this weekend. I put my ad in the 3 widely published newspapers in the Chicagoland area?and on Craigslist. I listed my home for about half of what it's worth. In 2 of the papers the ad had to go in for a week, from Monday through Sunday. So, here it is Wednesday, and I've had 2 phone calls, 1 email and not too much positive feedback. Should I be worried?? I don't think that lowering the price would make any difference since most people in this area aren't looking in that low of a price point. People might actually think that there's something wrong with my house for it to be listed so low. My house is worth about 525,000 and I listed it at 249,500 or best reasonable offer. 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090729/b1b5d8de/attachment.html From ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 29 18:42:54 2009 From: ParcelPropertyInvestments at sympatico.ca (Parcel Property Investments) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:42:54 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] feedback to Leslie In-Reply-To: <171824.63675.qm@web80606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <171824.63675.qm@web80606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Leslie, I am not saying that newspapers are useless for your area. Give the book at least one more read. You'll see the section that says that when Mr. Effros wrote the book (15yrs ago), there was no such thing as internet, and also, times change. He suggests joining the Forum and monitoring it so that you can see which advertising methods work for people today. I based my decision to use flyers on what feedback I read from people on the Forum. It seemed to work so I chose to do it. On the flyer it was simply a copy of the ad as Mr. Effros describes it in the book. You are too late to get flyers out now, but if you don't get 25 responses by Friday night, cancel and re-schedule, as the book says. I didn't use newspapers because in my town, people don't advertise houses very much by newspapers, it's by a flyer called "Barrie Real Estate Weekly" and only Realtors can advertise in that. Signs didn't help me, people ripped them out. When I went to take them out at the end of the Open House, they were already gone I didn't put anything up in grocery stores or shopping malls, personally. You need to use methods that get the MOST amount of people in the LEAST amount of time. Bill suggests use the 3 top methods of advertising for YOUR AREA. I only chose 2 methods, flyers and internet. With regards to the flyers, I didn't distribute them, I had Canada Post "target mail" them - that is, I paid our federal postal service here to provide me with an analysis of residences where incomes were over $60,000 CDN and between ages of 25-45yrs. (I'm sure that someone has that service where you are - check internet - perhaps your federal postal service does the same...). I had to pay $200 CDN to have a printing place do up the flyers, then $650 to Canada Post to have them mail the flyers to 5000 residences over a 3-day period. Read the book again - you'll pick up some of the stuff that you missed the first time around! Hang in there! Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Leslie Michaels To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] feedback to Leslie Ok, but is that what is written in Bill's book? I just spent over 500.00 in advertising and now you're telling me that doesn't work and I need to do something different? Where did you distribute the flyers? Do you put up signs at the grocery store or shopping malls? Are they drive by type of signs with your phone number? According to Bill's book, you're supposed to advertise in the papers, and now you're telling me that the newspapers are useless?! Aargh! Thanks for the input! Leslie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Parcel Property Investments To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:57:11 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] feedback to Leslie Hi Leslie, I agree with Janet. I had 5000 flyers sent around which brought well over 100 phone calls (lost track after 80) and my internet ad only generated about 20 responses, even though i'd paid about $85 to have it put on the "top ads" section of the internet, so that it would have more exposure. It costs though, (for me, just under $1000 CDN) but not nearly as much as paying a Realtor. As the book says, if you don't have 25 by Friday night, call everyone back and see you are going to re-schedule it. Then get those flyers out there! Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Janetislight at aol.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] feedback Leslie, From what I've see on here, the most responses have come from hand made signs all over the place, I did 20, and flyers send through a mailing list. I received nothing from Craig's List, and 2 from the paper. On CL, the ad just gets pushed down so fast, people do go that far looking. The paper is almost the same, with an overwhelming amount of open houses listed each week. You are doing far less marketing than a realtor would. I would suggest you cancel, re-gather and try again. This is JUST my opinion. Janet In a message dated 7/29/2009 4:43:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mosses5 at sbcglobal.net writes: I'm trying the 5 day sale this weekend. I put my ad in the 3 widely published newspapers in the Chicagoland area and on Craigslist. I listed my home for about half of what it's worth. In 2 of the papers the ad had to go in for a week, from Monday through Sunday. So, here it is Wednesday, and I've had 2 phone calls, 1 email and not too much positive feedback. Should I be worried? I don't think that lowering the price would make any difference since most people in this area aren't looking in that low of a price point. People might actually think that there's something wrong with my house for it to be listed so low. My house is worth about 525,000 and I listed it at 249,500 or best reasonable offer. Any thoughts? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090729/d661499c/attachment.html From artchr61 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 19:01:24 2009 From: artchr61 at yahoo.com (Leslie Michaels) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] feedback to Leslie In-Reply-To: References: <171824.63675.qm@web80606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <946779.29073.qm@web80608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ok, well I went back and re-read parts of the book about the advertising. Since I've never done anything like this before and I didn't see anything in the forum?about the Chicago area, I just went with the newspaper ads. I live in a pretty conservative, upper middle class town, and I know a lot of people read the paper. I don't know about the type of flyer service you're talking about, but I guess I could look into it. Most people in my area are put off by flyers distributed through the mail and just throw them away.? I suppose it's worth a shot, but I feel like I've?been a bit misled by the book. I have the most recent edition and it seemed to focus more on the print ad and internet, and only a little about the flyers as secondary.? Oh well, I may or may not try this again.? Again, thanks for your input Leslie ________________________________ From: Parcel Property Investments To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:42:54 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] feedback to Leslie Hi Leslie, ? I am not saying that newspapers are useless for your area.? Give the book at least one more read.? You'll see the section that says that when Mr. Effros wrote the book (15yrs ago), there was no such thing as internet, and also, times change.? He suggests joining the Forum and monitoring it so that you can see which advertising methods work for people today. ? I based my decision to use flyers on what feedback I read from people on the Forum.? It seemed to?work so I chose to do it.? On the flyer it was simply a copy of the ad as Mr. Effros describes it in the book. You are too late to get flyers out now, but if you don't get 25 responses by Friday night, cancel and re-schedule, as the book says.? I didn't use newspapers because in my town, people don't advertise houses very much by newspapers, it's by a flyer called "Barrie Real Estate Weekly" and only Realtors can advertise in that. ? Signs didn't help me, people ripped them out.? When I went to take them out at the end of the Open House, they were already gone ? I didn't put anything up in grocery stores or shopping malls, personally.? You need to use methods that get the MOST amount of people in the LEAST amount of time. ? Bill suggests use the 3 top methods of advertising for YOUR AREA.? I only chose 2 methods, flyers and internet.? ? With regards to the flyers, I didn't distribute them, I had Canada Post "target mail" them - that is, I paid our federal postal service here to provide me with an analysis of residences where incomes were over $60,000 CDN and between ages of 25-45yrs.? (I'm sure that someone has that service where you are - check internet - perhaps your federal postal service does the same...).? I had to pay $200 CDN to have a printing place do up the flyers,?then $650 to Canada Post to have them mail the flyers to 5000 residences over a 3-day period.? ? Read the book again - you'll pick up some of the stuff that you missed the first time around!? Hang in there! ? Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ? ----- Original Message ----- >From: Leslie Michaels >To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days >Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:25 PM >Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] feedback to Leslie > > >Ok, but is that what is written in Bill's book? I just spent over 500.00 in advertising and now you're telling me that doesn't work and I need to do something different? Where did you distribute the flyers? Do you put up signs at the grocery store or shopping malls? Are they drive by type of signs with your phone number? According to Bill's book, you're supposed to advertise in the papers, and now you're telling me that the newspapers are useless?! Aargh! >Thanks for the input! > >Leslie > > ________________________________ From: Parcel Property Investments >To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> >Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:57:11 PM >Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] feedback to Leslie > > >Hi Leslie, > >I agree with Janet.? I had 5000 flyers sent around which brought well over 100 phone calls (lost track after 80) and my internet ad only generated about 20 responses, even though i'd paid about $85 to have it put on the "top ads" section of the internet, so that it would have more exposure.? It costs though, (for me, just under $1000 CDN) but not nearly as much as paying a Realtor.? As the book says, if you don't have 25 by Friday night, call everyone back and see you are going to re-schedule it.? Then get those flyers out there!? > >Tammy >Barrie, Ontario >Canada >----- Original Message ----- >>From: Janetislight at aol.com >>To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com >>Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:49 PM >>Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] feedback >> >>Leslie, >> >>From what I've see on here, the most responses have come from hand made signs all over the place, I did 20, and flyers send through a mailing list.? I received nothing from Craig's List, and 2 from the paper.? On CL, the ad just gets pushed down so fast, people do go that far looking.? The paper is almost the same, with an overwhelming amount of open houses listed each week.? You are doing far less marketing than a realtor would.? I would suggest you cancel, re-gather and try again.? This is JUST my opinion. >> >>Janet >> >> >>In a message dated 7/29/2009 4:43:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mosses5 at sbcglobal.net writes: >>I'm trying the 5 day sale this weekend. I put my ad in the 3 widely published newspapers in the Chicagoland area?and on Craigslist. I listed my home for about half of what it's worth. In 2 of the papers the ad had to go in for a week, from Monday through Sunday. So, here it is Wednesday, and I've had 2 phone calls, 1 email and not too much positive feedback. Should I be worried?? I don't think that lowering the price would make any difference since most people in this area aren't looking in that low of a price point. People might actually think that there's something wrong with my house for it to be listed so low. My house is worth about 525,000 and I listed it at 249,500 or best reasonable offer. 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090729/1c645d9b/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Thu Jul 30 09:15:59 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:15:59 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] feedback to Leslie Message-ID: The signs I used are the type that you put into the ground. I got them from a sign maker for 2.50 a piece including the hardware, which I can re-use. On the signs I put Mr. Effros' ad. I am so sorry if I frustrated you with my post. Janet In a message dated 7/29/2009 5:26:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, artchr61 at yahoo.com writes: Ok, but is that what is written in Bill's book? I just spent over 500.00 in advertising and now you're telling me that doesn't work and I need to do something different? Where did you distribute the flyers? Do you put up signs at the grocery store or shopping malls? Are they drive by type of signs with your phone number? According to Bill's book, you're supposed to advertise in the papers, and now you're telling me that the newspapers are useless?! Aargh! Thanks for the input! Leslie ____________________________________ From: Parcel Property Investments To: How To Sell Your Home in 5-Days <5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:57:11 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] feedback to Leslie Hi Leslie, I agree with Janet. I had 5000 flyers sent around which brought well over 100 phone calls (lost track after 80) and my internet ad only generated about 20 responses, even though i'd paid about $85 to have it put on the "top ads" section of the internet, so that it would have more exposure. It costs though, (for me, just under $1000 CDN) but not nearly as much as paying a Realtor. As the book says, if you don't have 25 by Friday night, call everyone back and see you are going to re-schedule it. Then get those flyers out there! Tammy Barrie, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: _Janetislight at aol.com_ (mailto:Janetislight at aol.com) To: _5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com_ (mailto:5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com) Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] feedback Leslie, >From what I've see on here, the most responses have come from hand made signs all over the place, I did 20, and flyers send through a mailing list. I received nothing from Craig's List, and 2 from the paper. On CL, the ad just gets pushed down so fast, people do go that far looking. The paper is almost the same, with an overwhelming amount of open houses listed each week. You are doing far less marketing than a realtor would. I would suggest you cancel, re-gather and try again. This is JUST my opinion. Janet In a message dated 7/29/2009 4:43:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mosses5 at sbcglobal.net writes: I'm trying the 5 day sale this weekend. I put my ad in the 3 widely published newspapers in the Chicagoland area and on Craigslist. I listed my home for about half of what it's worth. In 2 of the papers the ad had to go in for a week, from Monday through Sunday. So, here it is Wednesday, and I've had 2 phone calls, 1 email and not too much positive feedback. Should I be worried? I don't think that lowering the price would make any difference since most people in this area aren't looking in that low of a price point. People might actually think that there's something wrong with my house for it to be listed so low. My house is worth about 525,000 and I listed it at 249,500 or best reasonable offer. Any thoughts? 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090730/05b52975/attachment.html From tara at dastrup.com Thu Jul 30 10:51:36 2009 From: tara at dastrup.com (Tara Dastrup) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:51:36 -0600 Subject: [5-DayForum] feedback In-Reply-To: <970821.93769.qm@web80601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <970821.93769.qm@web80601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BBB@phoo.dastrup.com> It's only thursday, you could make up a bounch of flyers and walk around putting them on people doors. Seems a lot of people have had success with flyers. Lots of signs around as well. It's time consuming, but you still have time to get the ad/word out there. ________________________________________ From: 5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com [5-dayforum-bounces+tara=dastrup.com at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com] On Behalf Of Leslie Goldberg [mosses5 at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:44 PM To: 5-dayforum at howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: [5-DayForum] feedback I'm trying the 5 day sale this weekend. I put my ad in the 3 widely published newspapers in the Chicagoland area and on Craigslist. I listed my home for about half of what it's worth. In 2 of the papers the ad had to go in for a week, from Monday through Sunday. So, here it is Wednesday, and I've had 2 phone calls, 1 email and not too much positive feedback. Should I be worried? I don't think that lowering the price would make any difference since most people in this area aren't looking in that low of a price point. People might actually think that there's something wrong with my house for it to be listed so low. My house is worth about 525,000 and I listed it at 249,500 or best reasonable offer. Any thoughts? Leslie From jcrafor at hotmail.com Fri Jul 31 15:03:26 2009 From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:03:26 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BBB@phoo.dastrup.com> References: <970821.93769.qm@web80601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7C873605C5CF804EBA9FCE425F4481E759A59BBB@phoo.dastrup.com> Message-ID: Well, this will be interesting, to say the least. I have a few signs made out of both plain brown paper bags and 2 boxes. I doubt anyone will want to steal those, I advertised a 5day sale, and had few responses, so I cancelled it, but will still hold an open house to "piggy-back" with an agent who is holding an OH this weekend or next, a few doors away. I have my inspection report, and FINALLY got my insurance report. I asked for it on the 17, and it arrived yesterday. So if you are required to provide one, order it now. Though I am not doing a 5Day, I will have all the papers there to be read, and will even take several LETTER OF INTENT TO PURCHASE forms to give out. A few houses have finally sold in the immediate area, so I am hopeful. JCrafor _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090731/cef90d26/attachment.html From Janetislight at aol.com Fri Jul 31 15:51:27 2009 From: Janetislight at aol.com (Janetislight at aol.com) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:51:27 EDT Subject: [5-DayForum] (no subject) Message-ID: Brown paper bags and boxes.... you are your own worst enemy. LOLOLOL In a message dated 7/31/2009 2:04:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jcrafor at hotmail.com writes: Well, this will be interesting, to say the least. I have a few signs made out of both plain brown paper bags and 2 boxes. I doubt anyone will want to steal those, I advertised a 5day sale, and had few responses, so I cancelled it, but will still hold an open house to "piggy-back" with an agent who is holding an OH this weekend or next, a few doors away. I have my inspection report, and FINALLY got my insurance report. I asked for it on the 17, and it arrived yesterday. So if you are required to provide one, order it now. Though I am not doing a 5Day, I will have all the papers there to be read, and will even take several LETTER OF INTENT TO PURCHASE forms to give out. A few houses have finally sold in the immediate area, so I am hopeful. JCrafor ____________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest sports videos. _Check it out._ (http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports) = _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgI D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090731/a9e28355/attachment.html From juliegorman at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 31 16:28:20 2009 From: juliegorman at bellsouth.net (juliegorman at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:28:20 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] ad size question Message-ID: <073120092028.14031.4A7353E4000733A3000036CF22230650629B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF020E039D01090A07049A06@att.net> Getting ready to place an ad for next week and try the 5 day sale...the book doesn't actually give a size that you should use. Should it be business sized or does it just need to keep the format? Nothing is indicated in the book...the front of the book has a smaller sized ad than the sample listed on page 145? Any advice? Thanks. Julie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090731/101c8cb9/attachment.html From jcrafor at hotmail.com Fri Jul 31 18:04:47 2009 From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:04:47 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Okay, smarty pants, what do those people who make their own signs use? I did buy signs yesterday, spent 30 bucks on 3. I'm on a small fixed income. I looked at those nice commercial signs and figured they'd last on the street about as long as it took me to turn the corner. I can't afford that. Oh, and my flat fee lister said if I want any more changes on my ad, there's a $50 administrative fee. Think I'll call Owner.com to check that. That doesn't seem right to me. JCrafor From: Janetislight at aol.com Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:51:27 -0400 To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] (no subject) Brown paper bags and boxes.... you are your own worst enemy. LOLOLOL In a message dated 7/31/2009 2:04:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jcrafor at hotmail.com writes: Well, this will be interesting, to say the least. I have a few signs made out of both plain brown paper bags and 2 boxes. I doubt anyone will want to steal those, I advertised a 5day sale, and had few responses, so I cancelled it, but will still hold an open house to "piggy-back" with an agent who is holding an OH this weekend or next, a few doors away. I have my inspection report, and FINALLY got my insurance report. I asked for it on the 17, and it arrived yesterday. So if you are required to provide one, order it now. Though I am not doing a 5Day, I will have all the papers there to be read, and will even take several LETTER OF INTENT TO PURCHASE forms to give out. A few houses have finally sold in the immediate area, so I am hopeful. JCrafor Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. = _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090731/6746802b/attachment.html From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com Fri Jul 31 21:00:04 2009 From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:00:04 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] (no subject) References: Message-ID: <14B7383D509B4E43B027CDBC95F551BA@rosemarifv6onv> Check on www.supercheapsigns.com - they sell blank signs. Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: j crafor To: 5-dayforum at mailman.how tosellyour home Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] (no subject) Okay, smarty pants, what do those people who make their own signs use? I did buy signs yesterday, spent 30 bucks on 3. I'm on a small fixed income. I looked at those nice commercial signs and figured they'd last on the street about as long as it took me to turn the corner. I can't afford that. Oh, and my flat fee lister said if I want any more changes on my ad, there's a $50 administrative fee. Think I'll call Owner.com to check that. That doesn't seem right to me. JCrafor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Janetislight at aol.com Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:51:27 -0400 To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] (no subject) Brown paper bags and boxes.... you are your own worst enemy. LOLOLOL In a message dated 7/31/2009 2:04:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jcrafor at hotmail.com writes: Well, this will be interesting, to say the least. I have a few signs made out of both plain brown paper bags and 2 boxes. I doubt anyone will want to steal those, I advertised a 5day sale, and had few responses, so I cancelled it, but will still hold an open house to "piggy-back" with an agent who is holding an OH this weekend or next, a few doors away. I have my inspection report, and FINALLY got my insurance report. I asked for it on the 17, and it arrived yesterday. So if you are required to provide one, order it now. Though I am not doing a 5Day, I will have all the papers there to be read, and will even take several LETTER OF INTENT TO PURCHASE forms to give out. A few houses have finally sold in the immediate area, so I am hopeful. JCrafor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. = _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. 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URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090731/29294241/attachment.html From rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com Fri Jul 31 21:02:13 2009 From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com (rosemarie-fred) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:02:13 -0400 Subject: [5-DayForum] ad size question References: <073120092028.14031.4A7353E4000733A3000036CF22230650629B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF020E039D01090A07049A06@att.net> Message-ID: As cheap as you can! A classified ad is fine. FYI I suggest you not "try" the 5-day sale, but plan to sell your house. "Try" imples failure! Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: juliegorman at bellsouth.net To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] ad size question Getting ready to place an ad for next week and try the 5 day sale...the book doesn't actually give a size that you should use. Should it be business sized or does it just need to keep the format? Nothing is indicated in the book...the front of the book has a smaller sized ad than the sample listed on page 145? Any advice? Thanks. Julie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 5-DayForum mailing list 5-DayForum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/5-dayforum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090731/97a45064/attachment.html From artchr61 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 21:48:14 2009 From: artchr61 at yahoo.com (Leslie Michaels) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [5-DayForum] ad size question In-Reply-To: <073120092028.14031.4A7353E4000733A3000036CF22230650629B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF020E039D01090A07049A06@att.net> References: <073120092028.14031.4A7353E4000733A3000036CF22230650629B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF020E039D01090A07049A06@att.net> Message-ID: <992081.89042.qm@web80601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just to let you know, I placed ads in my newspapers and got very little response. I also advertised on Craigslist. I followed the format to the letter that was set up by Bill Effros and spent about 550.00 on the 3?ads and got a grand total of 6 responses. I know my price wasn't too high for my area. Others have said that you need to do flyers and bulk mailings, so you may want to try that in addition to the newspaper ads.? I've been doing the flat fee MLS and have minimal success but someone came by with a realtor for a 2nd showing yesterday. Next week I may just go with the traditional realtor sale. If I go with a traditional realtor and the people who came to see my house for the 2nd time make an offer,?would the realtor I sign with get any commission, or does that not apply because it was before the fact? Leslie ? ________________________________ From: "juliegorman at bellsouth.net" To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:28:20 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] ad size question Getting ready to place an ad for next week and try the 5 day sale...the book doesn't actually give a size that you should use. Should it be business sized or does it just need to keep the format? Nothing is indicated in the book...the front of the book has a smaller sized ad than the sample listed on page 145? Any advice? Thanks. Julie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com/pipermail/5-dayforum/attachments/20090731/4c390247/attachment.html From jcrafor at hotmail.com Fri Jul 31 22:59:58 2009 From: jcrafor at hotmail.com (j crafor) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 02:59:58 +0000 Subject: [5-DayForum] ad size question In-Reply-To: References: <073120092028.14031.4A7353E4000733A3000036CF22230650629B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF020E039D01090A07049A06@att.net> Message-ID: A little OT, but you are the first, other than me, that I have ever seen/heard say that. As a teacher, two words my student's were not permitted to use in my classroom was TRY, because it is a word for failure, and CAN'T, for the same reason. JCrafor From: rosemarie-fred at mindspring.com To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:02:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [5-DayForum] ad size question As cheap as you can! A classified ad is fine. FYI I suggest you not "try" the 5-day sale, but plan to sell your house. "Try" imples failure! Rosemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: juliegorman at bellsouth.net To: 5-dayforum at mailman.howtosellyourhomein5days.com Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: [5-DayForum] ad size question Getting ready to place an ad for next week and try the 5 day sale...the book doesn't actually give a size that you should use. Should it be business sized or does it just need to keep the format? Nothing is indicated in the book...the front of the book has a smaller sized ad than the sample listed on page 145? Any advice? Thanks. 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